Re: [Fedora-music-list] Better information needed for noobs like me

2009-12-23 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 5:08 AM, birger wrote: Thank you all for a very nice initiative, getting all the great audio software working on a great linux distro. :-) I have browsed archives a few months back, and I have looked at the 'obvious' places. As a complete noob regarding studio work,

Re: Orphaned some packages

2009-12-21 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: 2009/12/21, Josephine Tannhäuser : 2009/12/19, Simon Wesp : griv: A GTK-Chat based on the RIV-Chat-protocol Bugs: 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/bugs/griv python-rabbyt: Sprite library for Python Bugs: 0

Re: Mass rebuild for F13?

2009-12-21 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:17:26AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: How could I learn what 4.5 features are backported? From gcc %changelog? To list some of them: - VTA - -gdwarf-3, -gstrict-dwarf support, defaults to -gdwarf-3 - various

Re: Mass rebuild for F13?

2009-12-21 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Dec 21, 2009, at 4:38, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Yeah, those comments in the patches are quite informative, like libtool sucks. Seriously, this comment about the patch in the specfile is a packaging requirement, not a personal request

Re: Koji stuck?

2009-12-19 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:02:24 + Jonathan Underwood wrote: Hi, I kicked off a couple of builds last night which appear stuck on koji. I had checked they build locally with a make mockbuild before submitting and all was fine. The

Re: Koji stuck?

2009-12-19 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: The temporary work-around is to compile with  -fno-var-tracking-assignments and that also works for lv2-c++-tools in the review queue, btw. Thanks! Yes, with that flag I was able to finish compiling muse and lv2-c++-tools. Will that

Re: Fedora update submission page broken for multiple packages

2009-12-16 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Tom Lane wrote: I tried to submit an update for both the fc12 and fc11 versions of postgresql.  It did not work; I had to file them as separate updates. I'm pretty sure it used to work --- is my memory failing me, or is this new breakage?  If the latter, where

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Please define effective license (for the love of consistency)

2009-12-11 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Fedora's Licensing Guidelines don't use the term effective license anywhere. Not even in the section on dual licensing, which is the scenario where the packager may choose to pick either license for the whole program. There is no

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Please define effective license (for the love of consistency)

2009-12-11 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/12/2009 07:24 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Michael Schwendt  wrote: Fedora's Licensing Guidelines don't use the term effective license anywhere. Not even in the section on dual licensing, which

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Please define effective license (for the love of consistency)

2009-12-09 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Ville Skyttä wrote: On Wednesday 09 December 2009, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: 1) I came across another review with the same license question. The source files have one of the GPLv2, GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+ headers each. They get compiled and produce 1 final binary

Re: Why pavucontrol is not installed by default?

2009-12-08 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Jon Masters wrote: The new gnome-volume-control is so cut-down it's not useful to me. In the quest to be more Mac-like in removing mixer controls (and not even having any obvious advanced mode), I now have a choice of no audio or having full volume LFE output

Re: jack2

2009-11-28 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: My proposal is to use alternatives for parallel installation, the way java does. Then the user can switch between jack1 and jack2 as he wants. Is it okay with everyone if I write

Re: Fedora 12: Emacs is not for software development

2009-11-27 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: I'm an emacs user who's nearly completely useless in vi.  But, really... it just doesn't matter if emacs isn't installed by default.  If you want it, you know how to get it.  And let's be frank: emacs is not something that a user who is

Re: livecds in the future

2009-11-24 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Ben Williams wrote: (yes i know the size sux, but not everyone has highspeed internet thats why they are downloading the livecd and not the dvd) Another interpretation would be: The contents of the DVD does not satisfy the needs of many people. I am in that

Re: [RFA] Your [PACKAGE_NAME] did not pass QA

2009-11-23 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Monday, 23 November 2009 at 17:51, Jerry James wrote: [...] I want a switch that says, Yes, I know this application uses core fonts.  It isn't going to change.  Shut up, please. +1. Nicholas, I know you love to

Re: Improve the way rpm decides what is newer

2009-11-22 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:31:27 -0500, Tony wrote: On 09-11-21 06:40:45, drago01 wrote:  ... You misunderstood me, I was not suggesting adding another epoch but simply bump the %{epoch}  for every release. If this were really

Re: ilbsndfile update!

2009-11-19 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: After getting okays from a few folks I decided to fix the long standing libsndfile bugs. [...] Other than that, libsndfile is updated to 1.0.20 in F-10+. Also, now it has

Re: A silly question about our FC tag

2009-11-19 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:08:15AM -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 17:11 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: Actually not if done in conjunction with a release

Re: A silly question about our FC tag

2009-11-19 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Stu Tomlinson wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 22:01, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: There's many things that need to be changed in rpm but IMHO this isn't one of them.  RPM produces predictable versioning

Re: Promoting i386 version over x86_64?

2009-11-18 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: I noticed that http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora appears to be strongly promoting i386 Fedora over x86_64. Is this intentional or an oversight? It is intentional. This is one of the standard discussion topics of this list. And it

Re: Review request...

2009-11-18 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 02:23:22AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: Many packagers don't know that maintaining a proper spec %changelog for relevant spec file changes and %release bumps are considered

Re: ilbsndfile update!

2009-11-17 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Hi folks, After getting okays from a few folks I decided to fix the long standing libsndfile bugs. One of these was a request [1] to split the utilities that come with libsndfile

Re: A silly question about our FC tag

2009-11-17 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 17:11 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: Actually not if done in conjunction with a release bump, such as we do with a mass rebuild. Only if we make a promise to never use the same base n-v-r across the releases

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Linking an LGPL library statically to an GPL program

2009-11-17 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Yes but you are missing one thing. The library is LGPLv2. It is not LGPLv2+. Doesn't it make the resultant binary GPLv2, without the + ? There is nothing in the GPL that requires you to put binaries under GPL

Re: How to update F12 packages?

2009-11-16 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: What do I need to do, to build updated chunkd and tabled packages on top of the new cld? You need to file a ticket to releng [1] and ask for buildroot overrides as outlined in the guidelines somewhere I can't remember. You need to provide

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Linking an LGPL library statically to an GPL program

2009-11-16 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 11/16/2009 06:03 PM, Christian Krause wrote: I'm a little bit unsure about: - Does the fact, that the library is statically linked, affects the compatibility or does the same rules apply as for dynamic linking? For the purposes of

ilbsndfile update!

2009-11-14 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
Hi folks, After getting okays from a few folks I decided to fix the long standing libsndfile bugs. One of these was a request [1] to split the utilities that come with libsndfile into a utils subpackage. I did this only for F-13. Since libsndfile is used by so many other software, it is

Re: libsndfile status?

2009-11-13 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/bugs/libsndfile What's up with libsndfile in Fedora and EPEL? There are open tickets about CVEs filed in March. There are additional

Re: [Fedora-music-list] Fedora Jacklab like spin

2009-11-07 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Simon Lewis wrote: Hello Please advise if a multimedia spin for Fedora 11 is available (or for Fedora 12 planned)? The standard Fedora 11 installation does not by default set the RT-PRIO for jackuser or pulse audio etc., etc. Neither does the standard

Re: libsndfile status?

2009-11-03 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/bugs/libsndfile What's up with libsndfile in Fedora and EPEL? There are open tickets about CVEs filed in March. There are additional tickets without any reply. Yeah, things go a little

Re: extracting multiple sources in %setup

2009-10-22 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: Hi, is there a way to extract multiple sources in a spec files %setup section? Something like: for i in {1..10}; do tar xfz %(SOURCE$i}; done Best Regards Marcus %setup -q -c -n %{name} -a 0 -a 1 -a 2 -a 3 -a 4 -a 5 -a 6 -a 7 -a 8

Re: On updates to stable releases

2009-10-21 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: I don't really want to revive the thread about automake 1.11, but I do want to point out that it did break actual buildability: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1761549name=build.log Please, people.  Don't update things in

Re: [Fwd: Junior Jobs]

2009-10-19 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
2009/10/19 Miroslav Suchý May be good idea for Fedora as well... Mirek Původní zpráva Předmět: [opensuse-packaging] Junior Jobs Datum: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:46:58 +0200 Od: Michal Hrusecky Hi, lately we formulated concept of openSUSE Junior Jobs[1]. Maintainers of

Re: Howto handle multilib conflict?

2009-10-09 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: Am Freitag, den 09.10.2009, 18:56 -0400 schrieb Neal Becker: Just received: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528237 yum install libotf-devel.i586 libotf-devel.x86_64 yields: Transaction Check Error:   file

Re: Cannot include sub directories and files in rpm package

2009-09-10 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:55 AM, ram s wrote: Hello, Hi! I see that you are new to packaging. I advise you to read a bash tutorial first. It will help. I am creating one rpm for my package. WHen I try to run spec file, it shows the sub directories can't be fine. Error: install: cannot

Re: Cannot include sub directories and files in rpm package

2009-09-10 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: I guess the line should be starting via install -d ShellScripts/mine/derot.txt ... *sigh*. this should be: install -p ShellScripts/mine/derot.txt ... or even better: install -pm 644 ShellScripts/mine/derot.txt ... We want to make sure

Re: Adding a project to transifex

2009-09-07 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Matthew Booth wrote: I went over to https://translate.fedoraproject.org/ earlier with the idea of adding my project. Firstly, there's no hint of how to do this from the front page. After some Leisure Suit Larry style clicking on stuff at random until something

Re: Packaging Request: Pure Data

2009-08-31 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Mani A wrote: http://puredata.info/ is not in the package database. From the license POV, there are no problems. Best A. Mani Hi, Fernando at planetccrma was working on packaging a recent version of puredata. I don't know the current status. There

Re: Makefile target to download SourceX file

2009-08-10 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: Doug Warner wrote: Does anyone have a Makefile target for download a SourceX file (similar to Kevin Fenzi's recent report)?  This would have the added benefit of simplifying the update process for new versions (ex: make source NUM=0

FedoraStudio: the final step

2009-08-09 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
Hello everyone, (If you don't own a multimedia package you can skip this thread) This is a call for help for adjusting the .desktop files of your multimedia applications according to the new FedoraStudio feature [1]. For those who missed the news, with F-12 we will have an optional

[Fedora-music-list] FedoraStudio: the final step

2009-08-09 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
Hello everyone, (If you don't own a multimedia package you can skip this thread) This is a call for help for adjusting the .desktop files of your multimedia applications according to the new FedoraStudio feature [1]. For those who missed the news, with F-12 we will have an optional

Re: rt2860 driver (fc11)

2009-08-06 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: I was hoping that the devs who worked hard to even make it part of the source rpm might be lurking on this mailing list and see my post :) I don't think anything special is done to make it part of our kernel .src.rpm, it's just in there

Re: rt2860 driver (fc11)

2009-08-06 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:58 AM, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: I maintain those drivers at RPMFusion. I will be happy beyond imagination when the staging drivers are marked stable. They won't ever (the rt Vendor drivers) From my understanding

Re: More Fedora mock breakage

2009-07-31 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Tom Lane wrote: Bastien Nocera writes: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 18:48 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: [ consults CVS... ]  So XZ support in F-11's rpm is less than a week old, there is *no* support in F-10, and we're already requiring the capability in order to do useful

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-29 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 12:42 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: Removing PA is far too often jumped on as the 'obvious' fix for resolving any kind of audio problem whatsoever. Even if it had nothing to do with PA in the first place. And?  

Re: fedora 11 worst then ever release

2009-07-25 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:15 PM, oleksandr korneta wrote: on 07/25/2009 11:46 AM Chuck Anderson wrote: I don't even upgrade anymore.  I just keep two partitions (Logical Volumes actually)--one for Fedora N and one for Fedora N+1. I took this one step forward. I keep 3 partitions Fedora N,

Re: Updates and delays in signing packages

2009-07-17 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, I have a concern with the recent delays in signing packages and how best to handle that. I maintain Gnote in Fedora. This is very actively maintained and has frequent releases, even weekly. It is also a rather young project (original

Re: [PlanetCCRMA] [Fedora-music-list] Re: for MIDI lovers: fluidsynth update

2009-07-17 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 02:39 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: Is this happening with the standard Fedora kernel

Re: Fedora rawhide rebuild in mock status 2009-07-10 x86_64

2009-07-15 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: oget: calf,fluidsynth,hydrogen,jack-keyboard,lash,muse,tex-musixtex All except the last one is due to the e2fsprogs split and I'm fixing them. But the last one may be an rpm or mock

Re: Fedora rawhide rebuild in mock status 2009-07-10 x86_64

2009-07-14 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: oget: calf,fluidsynth,hydrogen,jack-keyboard,lash,muse,tex-musixtex All except the last one is due to the e2fsprogs split and I'm fixing them. But the last one may be an rpm or mock issue. I don't know what to do. Any ideas?

Re: [Fedora-music-list] Re: for MIDI lovers: fluidsynth update

2009-07-08 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: Is this happening with the standard Fedora kernel or the rt kernel? This is Fedora kernel 2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64 I'll see what happens with the rt kernel. I tried all

Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-06 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
Wow! 78 messages and still, no one gave solid examples of what might go wrong unnoticed if one uses autotools in a specfile. Using autotools in a specfile is bad started to sound like an urban legend to me. I'll keep reading. Orcan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-06 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Orcan Ogetbil writes: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Orcan Ogetbil writes: Wow! 78 messages and still, no one gave solid examples of what might go wrong unnoticed if one uses autotools in a specfile. I already

[Fedora-music-list] Re: for MIDI lovers: fluidsynth update

2009-07-06 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: fluidsynth-1.0.9 is available in Fedora's updates-testing repository. This release comes with many improvements and fixes outlined in [1]. The most important improvement seems to be the new native Jack MIDI driver. fluidsynth MIDI

Re: [Fedora-music-list] Re: for MIDI lovers: fluidsynth update

2009-07-06 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 23:11 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: It seems to me that the new fluidsynth is not that stable. I start qjackctl which runs jackd (this is Fedora's jack 0.116.1-5) with /usr/bin/jackd -R -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100

Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-05 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Orcan Ogetbil writes: On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: [cut] Patching the configure script is much safer than patching configure.ac, then have autoconf grok all .m4 macros and rebuild the whole thing, likely

[Fedora-music-list] for MIDI lovers: fluidsynth update

2009-07-01 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
fluidsynth-1.0.9 is available in Fedora's updates-testing repository. This release comes with many improvements and fixes outlined in [1]. The most important improvement seems to be the new native Jack MIDI driver. fluidsynth MIDI connections will now appear in qjackctl's or your favorite jack

Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-06-30 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
By the way, On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: I was rather surprised to see:  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2009-6661  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-6076  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2009-6370 Where the

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-28 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, Christopher Stone wrote: Whatever desktop RH employees are paid to work on to satisfy their biggest RHEL customers needs.  Or what they *think* their biggest RHEL customers want. I think the question you need to ask

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-27 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/27/2009 09:13 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: As for integration, we offer a perfectly integrated KDE spin, thank you very much... We're working really hard on distro integration. For example, why do you think I wrote that KDM ConsoleKit

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-27 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:28 PM, drago01 wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:04 PM, drago01 wrote: Why treat XFCE as second class citizen ... Easy answer: because the size of its userbase is not in the same order of magnitude with Gnome

Re: rawhide report: 20090627 changes

2009-06-27 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rawhide Report wrote: New package SevenZip         Java SDK for LZMA Why was this approved and imported with that name when we clearly agreed on this list that the name needs to be changed? As far as I know, a general agreement hasn't

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-26 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
17:32:01 zodbot jds2001: #170 (Rename Desktop live image to GNOME live image) - FESCo - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/170 17:32:06 Kevin_Kofler This one is my proposal. See the ticket for the rationale. [cut] 17:34:03 Kevin_Kofler It stops misleading users about the contents

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-26 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: I suggest everyone cut the drama. We're talking about whether or not the live cd is labeled as 'gnome desktop' or leaving it as it currently is which says: 'fedora 11 desktop edition: featuring the gnome desktop'. I don't see the need for

Re: doubt regarding package name

2009-06-25 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Fernando Nasser wrote: Having subpackages that do not have the SRPM name as a prefix is terrible on tools adn scripts and should be avoided. Why not lzma-sdk-java   lzma-sdk-sharp  etc.? I think that's a problem of those tools/scripts and not of this

Re: Heads up: NoArch Sub Packages Feature continues

2009-06-16 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Seth Vidal wrote: read that again? You would expect higher ver i386 to install over x86_64 ON an x86_64 box? I'd expect that too. There's certainly a reason why the current version is not available natively, if not, it's a bug in the

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-16 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 08:16:36PM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: - Let's keep F-12 the same: ppc, ppc64, i586, x86_64 - Since ppc and ppc64 are going to be dropped from F-13, fill in the blank spot with i686+SSE2, i.e. F-13: i586, i686+SSE2

Re: Changing the default 32-bit x86 arch for Fedora 12

2009-06-15 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: ppc/ppc64 is supported in RHEL.  It is no longer a primary arch in Fedora. josh Really? I obviously missed something. /me will look at FESCo logs. Orcan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Why a multilib wrapper for non-multilib architectures?!

2009-06-13 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Robert Scheck wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Probably because it's less maintenance work in the specfile to just always add the wrapper. (On the other hand, it means extra work (adding an #ifdef) when adding a secondary arch.) Well, how would

Re: mono-2.4 and ppc64 status

2009-06-09 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:28 PM, SmootherFrOgZ wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Mono-2.4 has been built for ppc64 in F11 and devel.  So people should be able to start rebuilding packages to include ppc64 as well as the other arches.  There's a few wrinkles to

Re: mono-2.4 and ppc64 status

2009-06-09 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:11 PM, SmootherFrOgZ wrote: I assume that no one have any mono packages to rebuilt. then if so, i gonna request a push above packages. Please do. This was F11-Target and I didn't even think this would not be submitted ASAP and I had pushed gnome-guitar to updates. Now

Re: [Fedora-music-list] LMMS

2009-05-24 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Fermin Molina wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2009 15:08:23 +0200, Fermin wrote: Hi all, Any plan to include in fedora or in planetccrma this great app? I think that LMMS is a great music production app: http://lmms.sourceforge.net/ It's

Re: [Fedora-music-list] about the Fedora Studio idea

2009-05-23 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
Hello folks, I updated the wiki page. Based on the feedback I got (especially David's opinions were quite inspiring) and stealing some ideas from planetccrma-menu package, I came up with this outline: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraStudio Note that this is by no means the final

Re: [Fedora-music-list] about the Fedora Studio idea

2009-05-16 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 16:24 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: I will start writing the wiki page this week and report the status once I have enough material that can benefit from feedback. I did start writing the wiki page [1] last week but I got stuck at one point. It is not easy to make a good

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] python openssl/gpl license issue?

2009-05-12 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
2009/5/12 Christoph Höger: Hi, I've just read http://blog.pierlux.com/2009/05/12/pythons-hidden-poissoned-apple-for-gpl-applications/en/ and it seems to me that this applys to offlineimap (which i am maintaining), as that tool uses sslsock from python and is licensed under gpl. I

Re: [Fedora-music-list] about the Fedora Studio idea

2009-05-04 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 18:39 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: - What desktop file category(ies) shall we use? The standard categories we can use are Midi, Mixer, Sequencer, Tuner, AudioVideoEditing. We can also use some artificial

[Fedora-music-list] about the Fedora Studio idea

2009-05-02 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
I had posted on fedora-devel mailing list about this idea a while ago, but the discussion didn't last long: http://www.linux-archive.org/fedora-development/266281-adding-new-group-desktop-menu-fedora-studio.html In short, currently all our audio/video players/editors are cluttering the Multimedia

[Fedora-legal-list] how artistic is this license?

2009-03-22 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
While I was packaging frinika [1], I realized that one of its dependencies, mrjadapter [2], comes with some Artistic License [3]. I can't tell what version of Artistic License this is. Can you tell me if this is free or not; and if not, can you tell me what makes it nonfree so I can inform

[Fedora-legal-list] Do we need to remove proprietary code from previous releases?

2009-03-05 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
Recently I took over the orphaned package libzzub in F-10 and devel. I found that the upstream renamed the package to armstrong, so I opened a review request for armstrong and it just got approved. But whenever I was packaging armstrong, I found that the source tarball contains some MS

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Do we need to remove proprietary code from previous releases?

2009-03-05 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 03/05/2009 02:36 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Recently I took over the orphaned package libzzub in F-10 and devel. I found that the upstream renamed the package to armstrong, so I opened a review request for armstrong and it just got

Re: fontforge update for f10?

2009-03-04 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: On list this time 2009/3/4 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com: Anyone have any thoughts about doing this update in F10? +1 If a font can no longer be built for some reason then we should contact the FF devs :) Unfortunately they are not

rpms/serafettin-cartoon-fonts/devel .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 serafettin-cartoon-fonts.spec, 1.2, 1.3 sources, 1.2, 1.3

2009-02-28 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
Author: oget Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/serafettin-cartoon-fonts/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv8479 Modified Files: .cvsignore serafettin-cartoon-fonts.spec sources Log Message: * Sat Feb 28 2009 Orcan Ogetbil oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com - 0.5.1-1

Re: Finish Font Birth

2009-02-01 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Jens Petersen wrote: - In case that I want to push updates: Can I use the common/cvs-import script again? Yes, that should work - if not please file a bug. Well, I did that once and weird things happened. I had to learn cvs to clean the mess. It was good

Re: Font CVS Requests

2009-01-31 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Paul Lange wrote: Hey, after my two packages has been approved (thank you Nicolas). I'm going to start to integrate them into the Fedora CVS system. That's nice Now I have some question for creating the New Package CVS Request: Actually the font lifecycle

[Fedora-music-list] Re: Hello (new fedora-music member)

2009-01-30 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Before sending this email, I did some work on the wiki, mainly created some tables to ease the categorization of sound applications. I will work on it more, but it will make things a lot easier for me if everybody adds his/her audio

Re: [Fedora-music-list] Re: Hello (new fedora-music member)

2009-01-30 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 14:55 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Before sending this email, I did some work on the wiki, mainly created some tables to ease the categorization

[Fedora-music-list] Hydrogen 0.9.4-beta2

2009-01-27 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
Hi, I made an SRPM with a recent hydrogen svn checkout. Hydrogen is now ported to qt4 and has quite nice new features. Here you can find the SRPM if you want to try it out: http://oget.fedorapeople.org/hydrogen/ I am still working on this together with the upstream. Since the application looks

rpms/serafettin-cartoon-fonts/devel import.log, NONE, 1.1 serafettin-cartoon-fonts.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-01-13 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
Author: oget Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/serafettin-cartoon-fonts/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv15264/devel Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Added Files: import.log serafettin-cartoon-fonts.spec Log Message: * Tue Jan 13 2009 oget [DOT] fedora [AT]

rpms/serafettin-cartoon-fonts/F-9 import.log, NONE, 1.1 serafettin-cartoon-fonts.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-01-13 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
Author: oget Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/serafettin-cartoon-fonts/F-9 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv15650/F-9 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Added Files: import.log serafettin-cartoon-fonts.spec Log Message: * Tue Jan 13 2009 oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail

rpms/serafettin-cartoon-fonts/F-10 import.log, NONE, 1.1 serafettin-cartoon-fonts.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-01-13 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
Author: oget Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/serafettin-cartoon-fonts/F-10 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv15968/F-10 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources Added Files: import.log serafettin-cartoon-fonts.spec Log Message: * Tue Jan 13 2009 oget [DOT] fedora [AT]

[Fedora-legal-list] reviving pdftk

2008-11-11 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
pdftk had been removed from Fedora because it contained itext code which had licensing issues. Please see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=236310 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=pdftkproduct=Fedora But since the itext's license issue is resolved, (see