Re: Proposal: fedora-release-rawhide subpackage

2010-01-08 Thread Thomas Janssen
2010/1/7 Zing z...@fastmail.fm: On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:02:24 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:24:05 +0100 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: You propose that the repo should be enabled by default if the package is installed. I don't like this. This make it a lot easier to

Re: packages up for adoption

2010-01-05 Thread Thomas Janssen
2010/1/5 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com: I intend to give up the following packages: libexif I will take this one. -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Fixing the kernel for intel laptops

2010-01-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
2010/1/1 Paul p...@all-the-johnsons.co.uk: Hi, I'm trying to get my Intel graphics driven laptop up and running again (see BZ 523646 for details of the problem) and am trying to rebuild the kernel using the latest from kernel.org and the fedora srpm (install srpm, copy the kernel, run the

Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email address. Definitely @fedoraproject.org

Re: disallow broken push to updates?

2009-11-20 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/11/20 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: Wouldn't it be a good idea to disallow a push to updates that has broken deps? If the special case is kde-plasma-smooth-tasks. It is not in updates yet. The needed deps are in updates-testing. -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium --

Re: make tag failure doesn't fail right?

2009-11-15 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/11/15 Braden McDaniel bra...@endoframe.com: I did:        $ make tag and got:        cvs tag  -c openvrml-0_18_3-11_fc13        cvs tag: openvrml.spec is locally modified        cvs [tag aborted]: correct the above errors first! Whoops.  And so I proceeded to commit the

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/10/21 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 13:28 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 06:22:04PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: IIUC, you're mis-interpreting the YUM output there. NetworkManager-gnome doesn't have a dependancy on KDE, rather it

Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-19 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/10/19 Ismael Olea ism...@olea.org: On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Josephine Tannhäuser josephine.tannhau...@googlemail.com wrote: btw. I'm still missing Godwin's Law. It's a must for stupid nonsense-discussions, but I'm not missing it! tongue place=cheek So, you are acting clearly

Re: Retiring ksensors, possibly id3lib as well?

2009-10-08 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/10/8 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote: However... have you considered trying  gnome-applet-sensors? gnome-applet-* doesn't work under KDE, that stuff only works in gnome-panel. It seems odd to continue such a package despite upstream being defunct. As I

Re: Package updates not replaced by newer package in -testing

2009-10-08 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/10/8 Jonathan Dieter jdie...@gmail.com: A few days ago, I built deltarpm-3.4-18.fc11 which resplit off a subpackage that had accidentally been merged into the main package in deltarpm-3.4-17.fc11.  I pushed -18 into -testing, and assumed (since it was newer than -17) that -17 wouldn't get

Re: wmii window manager

2009-10-03 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/10/3 Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:06 PM, David Timms dti...@iinet.net.au wrote: On 10/03/2009 07:12 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote: Do we have wmii (a window manager, http://wmii.suckless.org) packaged for Fedora? Would you like to begin packaging it ? Sounds

Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-30 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/9/30 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de: On Tue, 29.09.09 22:46, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: Lennart Poettering wrote: Uh. Nokia stands pretty firmly behind gst. As do most embedded folks. Behind GStreamer, sure. Behind Phonon (and thus also Phonon-GStreamer),

Re: Non-responsive maintainer process for kurzawa / Krzysztof Kurzawski

2009-09-27 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/9/25 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com: On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:57:10 +0200 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: Aloas, On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 07:01:21PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: I want to start the non-responsive maintainer process for Krzysztof Kurzawski, because youtube-dl was not

Re: Bugzilla Desktop Client

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/9/5 Christopher Brown snecklif...@gmail.com: Would be grateful for info on what this does that bz web interface doesn't. More new BZ user friendly. Much faster than the BZ web interface. -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Bugzilla Desktop Client

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/9/6 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 09/05/2009 11:06 PM, Rajkarn Singh wrote: Hi, I am working on the development of a general Desktop Client for Bugzilla. Currently it can access Red Hat Bugzilla database, however in future I'd be working to make it work for other

Re: Bugzilla Desktop Client

2009-09-05 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/9/5 Rajkarn Singh rajkar...@gmail.com: Hi, I am working on the development of a general Desktop Client for Bugzilla. Currently it can access Red Hat Bugzilla database, however in future I'd be working to make it work for other Bugzillas.  I have posted a blog having somewhat detailed

Re: network issues with kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586

2009-08-24 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/8/24 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de: I hope somebody can confirm this: I also had some wireless errors (iwlagn: microcode error) in my dmesg the days before. I can confirm: iwlagn: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting 0x200. With 2.6.29.6-99.fc10.x86_64 04:00.0 Network

Re: Updates lacking descriptions

2009-08-14 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/8/14 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de: On 08/14/2009 07:32 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 05:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I strongly think Fedora would be better without Rahul and Kevin, two persons I have learned to be doing a good job on certain subjects, but to be

Re: KDE vs. GNOME on F10

2009-08-07 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/8/7 Thomas Moschny thomas.mosc...@gmail.com: 2009/8/5 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com: If we just want to dump all the latest stuff in there, why bother with freezes and releases at all ? We could all just use rawhide... While often repeated, I don't think that argument is true.

Re: kde-4.3.0 coming to F-10, F-11

2009-08-05 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/8/5 Christopher Stone chris.st...@gmail.com: I'm glad you are going through with it.  Awesome support from the KDE SIG! Kudos! +1 Thanks from all us F10 users who don't want or cant upgrade to F11 for various reasons. -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium -- fedora-devel-list

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12

2009-07-31 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/7/28 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de: snip I'd like to ask everyone to test this new volume logic. If you don't raise your voice now that some output port is not properly detected or audio is too faint then later on you won't have any right to complain. I think you do what you

Re: new to list, first post

2009-07-30 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/7/30 wde...@mikrotec.com: I am new to this list, and I am looking forward to hearing the discussion. But thanks to bob and others responding to my post on fedoraforum.org http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=227101 , I think I would like to broach a subject.  My apologies if

Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC

2009-07-29 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/7/29 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com: On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/29 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem to work with konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens.  Works in firefox

Re: Applications install should be idiot proof

2009-07-26 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/7/26 Nelson Chan khcha.n...@gmail.com: i've just read http://blogs.computerworld.com/ubuntu_to_make_linux_application_installation_idiot_proof he got a pretty good idea, see the 2nd last paragraph: I may know that Amarok, Banshee, Rhythmbox, and Songbird are all noteworthy Linux music

Re: Chromium-3.0.195 fails to start

2009-07-20 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/7/20 梁穗隆 liangsuil...@gmail.com: I download and install the latest rpm of chromium-3.0.195. But it fails to start. Looks like you want a chromium.repo [chromium] name=Chromium Test Packages baseurl=http://spot.fedorapeople.org/chromium/F$releasever/ enabled=1 gpgcheck=0 Another things,

Re: Does anything require /proc/bus/usb?

2009-07-19 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/7/17 Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com: Thomas Janssen on 07/17/2009 10:56 AM wrote: Patch would be welcome. Would make my life easier in #fedora helping people with that problem. The patch should have been attached to the original post. Did you see it? Ah, overlooked it, sorry

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/7/2 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 07/02/2009 06:15 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Is there a book group? or what search parameter? Tried yum info Dive Into Python # yum info diveintopython Since we have more than one book, I guess a new group could be defined as well. If

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/7/2 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:52:59PM +0200, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/7/2 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 07/02/2009 06:15 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: Is there a book group? Since we have more than one book, I guess a new group

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-30 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/6/30 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Seth Vidal wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, R P Herrold wrote: umm -- trying to boot and install the x86_86 image on a i686 unit returns basically the same under Anaconda's kernel which is why i686 isos are the ones users get by default. ...

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/6/29 Eric Springer erik...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Kevin Koflerkevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: This x86_64 issue is also a nasty side effect of your design policy: why are we defaulting to reduced performance for the vast majority of new hardware (basically only

Re: Suggestion re FESCO Ticket #170

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/6/29 David bouncingc...@gmail.com: Re the discussion at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-June/msg01991.html The below suggestion tries to satisfy all parties: - it presents a neutral default - it presents a simple choice for newbie who doesnt know what a desktop is

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/6/29 Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org: On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, R P Herrold wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Bill Nottingham wrote: That's a really crappy place for that message, though. What's the user supposed to do there... reboot and then go download another 700MB - 4GB? umm --

Re: Suggestion re FESCO Ticket #170

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/6/29 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Roberto Ragusa wrote: (Funny that the order of the desktops has come out alphabetically sorted too) We may want to list XFCE before LXDE as its the more mature option. But I don't have popularity stats for those, so I don't know which one is

Re: Suggestion re FESCO Ticket #170

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/6/29 Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com: On Monday 29 June 2009 17:02:36 Michael Cronenworth wrote: Dariusz J. Garbowski on 06/29/2009 09:56 AM wrote: Maybe call it Default then? No, because that's offensive to some people apparently. No, default is not offensive! Gnome Desktop Live

Re: Suggestion re FESCO Ticket #170

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/6/29 Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:52 PM, drago01drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Mat Boothfed...@matbooth.co.uk wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Roberto Ragusam...@robertoragusa.it wrote: I propose: FEDORA LIVE CD Fedora

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-28 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/6/27 Jon Stanley jonstan...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Adam Millermaxamill...@gmail.com wrote: If it is official, I think it should at least get placed on the same web page as the gnome/default one like it used to. +1 We're well aware that the current download page is

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-28 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/6/28 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org: On 06/28/2009 12:40 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote: I might understand it wrong. But from my point of view. It's not newbie oriented at all. If it would be newbie oriented it would offer information and give options to choose, included with some

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-28 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/6/28 Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, Christopher Stone wrote: Whatever desktop RH employees are paid to work on to satisfy their biggest RHEL customers needs.  Or what they *think* their biggest RHEL

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-06-26

2009-06-28 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/6/28 Matthew Garrett m...@redhat.com: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 03:09:26PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Niels Haase wrote: GNOME KDE - official support from fedora (first class citizen) XFCE - spin only (second class citizen) LXDE - remix only (third class citizen) It's actually worse

Re: Do we need split media CDs for F12?

2009-06-17 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/6/17 Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com: Thomas Janssen on 06/17/2009 03:19 AM wrote: Ubuntu Alternative Thats not a LiveCD. It's just a install CD. No Live. So? Your point? A Fedora LiveCD is an install CD. My point.. It is/was obviously that you dont know what an alternative CD is. So

Re: welcome to fedora

2009-05-29 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/5/29 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: http://images.howtoforge.com/images/the_perfect_desktop_linux_mint_7_gloria/15.jpg I saw this and thought that it would also be a nice idea to have in fedora, like a welcome screen Wellcome to Fedora or something similar... What are your

[Fedora-legal-list] License check for new library for fedora

2009-05-01 Thread Thomas Janssen
of any version is permanent authorization for you to choose that version for the Library. This is obviously my first post to this list. So i will wait until i get an answer. Thanks for your time. Thomas Janssen -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium