Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-29 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Aldo Foot wrote: > Is rather amusing how this "No root login" thing evolved to just a bad disc. > I apologize for not having had the patience to do a basic media check. Hopefully Gene made the same mistake as Gene is the only other person in this thread that confi

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-29 Thread Aldo Foot
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> How about finding a python tarball and installing it. Just to get things >> started. > > We have no idea what else failed to install properly. There could be > a hundred other packages

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-29 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > How about finding a python tarball and installing it. Just to get things > started. We have no idea what else failed to install properly. There could be a hundred other packages that were suppose to install. He's already downloaded and bur

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-29 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 15:53 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Aldo Foot wrote: > >> # rpm -V python > >> package python is not installed > > > > You are saying that the affected system after fresh install appears to

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 16:42 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote: > I didn't do a media check. I always skip that. But that's a thought. I don't. I don't like wasting hours and hours of my time, post installation, or during installation, because I'm starting off with a problem. I check the downloaded ISO file

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: > To clarify: > /usr/bin/python does not exist > /usr/bin/python2 exists and is an empty link to a non-existent > /usr/bin/python binary. All i misread... python binary doesnt exist.. that is consistent with what rpm is saying. > I know this is

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Aldo Foot
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: > Aldo Foot wrote: >> before. I'm making a list. Maybe the download of the bad dvd was incomplete >> or >> there was data corruption in the process. >> > > Did this DVD pass a media check? I didn't do a media check. I always skip that. But that

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Ian Pilcher
Aldo Foot wrote: > before. I'm making a list. Maybe the download of the bad dvd was incomplete or > there was data corruption in the process. > Did this DVD pass a media check? -- Ian Pilcher

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Aldo Foot
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Aldo Foot wrote: >> # rpm -V python >> package python is not installed > > You are saying that the affected system after fresh install appears to > not have the python package installed? If that is true that w

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Aldo Foot wrote: > # rpm -V python > package python is not installed You are saying that the affected system after fresh install appears to not have the python package installed? If that is true that will break far more than just firstboot..far more. In fact its

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Had I seen this earlier I would have told you just to go to a non-X console >> and login as root there... The whole thing about not logging as root is >> "security by obscurity" as far as

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Aldo Foot
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Had I seen this earlier I would have told you just to go to a non-X console > and login as root there... The whole thing about not logging as root is > "security by obscurity" as far as I'm concerned, and is more effective as a > barrier to

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Aldo Foot wrote: I ran into a problem today for which I already found the answer, but I wanted to ask what in the world is going on with F10 and gnome's initial install?? Today I decided to install F10 for the first time and decided to try out the Gnome desktop. The install was clean. Somewhere

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Aldo Foot
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Aldo Foot wrote: <..snip> >> I did a fresh install choosing KDE only --this deselect the gdm package >> from the X Windows System group. The problem persisted even though >> there was no gnome or gdm in the

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Aldo Foot wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: >>> If you think it's worth it let's give it a shot and tell me what to do. >> >> looks like firstboot is failing to run. Hence why its st

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Aldo Foot
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: >> If you think it's worth it let's give it a shot and tell me what to do. > > looks like firstboot is failing to run. Hence why its still enabled to > run again on next boot. > > On that fres

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-28 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: > If you think it's worth it let's give it a shot and tell me what to do. looks like firstboot is failing to run. Hence why its still enabled to run again on next boot. On that freshly installed affected system, does firstboot run manually withou

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-27 Thread Aldo Foot
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Aldo Foot wrote: >> One has to wonder, what are the odds that two different people had >> some weird dvd. >> As a side note: I had created the "problem" dvd I used previously on >> 12/04/08 ( I dated it), >>

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 January 2009, Craig White wrote: >On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 12:48 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >>> Just to be clear. After the installation is complete you reboot. >> >>> During that reboot you are asked to setup a user account. Did

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-27 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Aldo Foot wrote: > One has to wonder, what are the odds that two different people had > some weird dvd. > As a side note: I had created the "problem" dvd I used previously on > 12/04/08 ( I dated it), > and that was a few days after the mainstream release on late

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-27 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 12:48 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Gene Heskett > wrote: > >>> Just to be clear. After the installation is complete you reboot. During > >>> that reboot you are asked to setup a user account. Did that not happen > >>> to you. > >> > >>Nope. It

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-27 Thread Aldo Foot
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Just to be clear. After the installation is complete you reboot. During >>> that reboot you are asked to setup a user account. Did that not happen >>> to you. >> >>Nope. It never did, hence the puzzle. >>I'm burning a new DVD right now. >>

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 January 2009, Aldo Foot wrote: >On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 16:29 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Steve Searle wrote: >>> > Around 12:18am on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 (UK time), Aldo Foot scrawled: >

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-27 Thread Aldo Foot
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 16:29 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Steve Searle wrote: >> > Around 12:18am on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 (UK time), Aldo Foot scrawled: >> > >> >> But now, seriously, how I'm I supposed to

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-27 Thread Aldo Foot
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Sachin Murudkar wrote: > OK > > Assuming you have a root login. create a user from the backend and try... I did that, but only after I went into rescue mode to unlock the root GUI access. So creating and using a regular user account is fine after the fact. The on

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-27 Thread Sachin Murudkar
OK Assuming you have a root login. create a user from the backend and try... On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 16:29 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Steve Searle > wrote: > > > Around 12:18am on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 (

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-27 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 16:29 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Steve Searle wrote: > > Around 12:18am on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 (UK time), Aldo Foot scrawled: > > > >> But now, seriously, how I'm I supposed to log in at the desktop when I was > >> not > >> offered the c

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-26 Thread Aldo Foot
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Aldo Foot wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Steve Searle >> wrote: >>> >>> Around 12:18am on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 (UK time), Aldo Foot >>> scrawled: >>> But now, seriously, how I'm I supposed to log in at the desktop whe

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
Aldo Foot wrote: >> Maybe it would be helpful to know what install media you were >> using? > > I'm using DVD. I'm downloading the current ISO to try it. I may be > using a Beta version... but still. Uhhh, I don't know if there was any particular bug regarding firstboot not running, but it clearl

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-26 Thread Rick Stevens
Aldo Foot wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Steve Searle wrote: Around 12:18am on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 (UK time), Aldo Foot scrawled: But now, seriously, how I'm I supposed to log in at the desktop when I was not offered the chance to create a regular user account during the instal

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-26 Thread Aldo Foot
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Aldo Foot wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Steve Searle wrote: >> >>> Around 12:18am on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 (UK time), Aldo Foot scrawled: >>> >>> But now, seriously, how I'm I supposed to log in at the desktop when I was

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-26 Thread Ed Greshko
Aldo Foot wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Steve Searle wrote: > >> Around 12:18am on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 (UK time), Aldo Foot scrawled: >> >> >>> But now, seriously, how I'm I supposed to log in at the desktop when I was >>> not >>> offered the chance to create a regular u

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-26 Thread Aldo Foot
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: > I ran into a problem today for which I already found the answer, but I wanted > to ask what in the world is going on with F10 and gnome's initial install?? > > Today I decided to install F10 for the first time and decided to try out the > Gnome d

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-26 Thread Aldo Foot
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 12:18am on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 (UK time), Aldo Foot scrawled: > >> But now, seriously, how I'm I supposed to log in at the desktop when I was >> not >> offered the chance to create a regular user account during the installation?

Re: F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-26 Thread Steve Searle
Around 12:18am on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 (UK time), Aldo Foot scrawled: > But now, seriously, how I'm I supposed to log in at the desktop when I was not > offered the chance to create a regular user account during the installation? Firstboot will ask you to set up a user account. Did you bypa

F10 and Gnome - not root login

2009-01-26 Thread Aldo Foot
I ran into a problem today for which I already found the answer, but I wanted to ask what in the world is going on with F10 and gnome's initial install?? Today I decided to install F10 for the first time and decided to try out the Gnome desktop. The install was clean. Somewhere during the install