Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 07 July 2008 04:48:15 pds wrote: It's about choice, NOT what is better about KDE4 its more about what is MISSING! If you can't understand that some users work in a specific way or need to work in a specific way then. Just what is it you don't understand? You have a choice. More

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Rex Dieter
pds wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500 Please read the FAQ again. I would *love* to be able to provide just that, and asked developers point-blank if this is something possible(1) or supported. Answer was no. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/KDE4FAQ (1) without horrible

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Pete Snider
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 07 July 2008 04:48:15 pds wrote: It's about choice, NOT what is better about KDE4 its more about what is MISSING! If you can't understand that some users work in a specific way or need to work in a specific way

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Pete Snider
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pds wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500 Please read the FAQ again. I would *love* to be able to provide just that, and asked developers point-blank if this is something possible(1) or supported. Answer was no.

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Pete Snider wrote: Thank you for pointing that out, I wasn't aware that all packages had to be able to be installed at one time. I'll try it on a fresh disk this week, it should be interesting. The guidelines are more detailed than that. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Conflicts You

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 07 July 2008 13:09:12 Pete Snider wrote: Please go and make KDE 4.x as good as (meaning equivalent functionality) KDE 3.5. People are working flat out to do just that. However, the constant whining just de-motivates them. I intend to continue trying to help those who ask for it,

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Pete Snider
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 07 July 2008 13:09:12 Pete Snider wrote: Please go and make KDE 4.x as good as (meaning equivalent functionality) KDE 3.5. People are working flat out to do just that. However, the constant whining just

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread stan
Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: 2008/7/7, pds [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500 Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pds wrote: When features are in KDE3.5 work better than the newer version, I'll ask for the older version back anytime. You want specific examples:

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-07 Thread Pete Snider
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:24 AM, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joonas Sarajärvi wrote: 2008/7/7, pds [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500 Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pds wrote: When features are in KDE3.5 work better than the newer version, I'll ask for the

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-06 Thread pds
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:52:22 -0400 max [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rex Dieter wrote: mike cloaked wrote: Most of the complainers do not directly fix things - so we all perhaps need a little patience and do our bit to help rather than simply grumble. Be careful, I'd really like to

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-06 Thread pds
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:13:01 -0500 Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pds wrote: When features are in KDE3.5 work better than the newer version, I'll ask for the older version back anytime. You want specific examples: And there are a multitude of specific examples where kde4 is

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-07-06 Thread pds
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:09:57 -0500 Arthur Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM, pds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:52:22 -0400 max [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rex Dieter wrote: mike cloaked wrote: Most of the complainers do not directly

That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-16 Thread mike cloaked
Since posting via gmane seems not to have propagated through to the main list I am sending this separately: Anne Wilson cannewilson at googlemail.com writes: Maybe they can't. Some problems can't be fixed until we get 4.1. On the whole, though, I agree with you. It took a little getting

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-16 Thread Mustafa Qasim
+1 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:50 PM, mike cloaked [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since posting via gmane seems not to have propagated through to the main list I am sending this separately: Anne Wilson cannewilson at googlemail.com writes: Maybe they can't. Some problems can't be fixed until we

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-16 Thread Rex Dieter
mike cloaked wrote: Most of the complainers do not directly fix things - so we all perhaps need a little patience and do our bit to help rather than simply grumble. Be careful, I'd really like to avoid giving an impression that any stuff like this is unwanted or falls on deaf ears. Just keep

Re: That thread - Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:45:14 -0500 Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just keep in mind that constructive feedback, even in the form of complaining, is invaluable. The constructive part being very important. Yea, but developers by their very nature are utterly incapable of interpreting: