Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 28 May 2009 20:27:37 Andras Simon wrote:
On 5/28/09, Konstantin Svist fry@gmail.com wrote:
Another example from my experience: I bought a Creative webcam on
impulse (it was very cheap, found it on Slickdeals). Plug it in - no
dice. Search for the drivers -
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:41:12 Konstantin Svist wrote:
True, except for one major difference: when your printer doesn't work
under Windows, it's usually because you didn't install the driver yet
(or installed the wrong one). Unless the printer is at least a few years
old,
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Konstantin Svist wrote:
Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to
ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P
No, there shouldn't! We'll never get native, Free drivers that way. I don't
want to have to use crappy buggy proprietary drivers which weren't even
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Still running a 386 with Win98SE for one scanner, as long as it works I'm
not going to drop most of $1k to buy another. I really can't see throwing
out an expensive scanner to make a political (religious?) point of only
Linux on my systems.
There are really cheap scanners
Bill Davidsen wrote:
If I scrap my unsupported hardware will you buy me new? And clients, they
will probably scrap their old hardware if someone will buy new. If I told
them they would have to buy hardware themselves they would scrap Linux,
and be cost justified.
You shouldn't have bought
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 17:04 -0300, Damián Rodríguez Sánchez wrote:
that's because it's a lot more common for mac drivers to come
available with the hardware you buy for your computer. have you ever
seen a keyborad, video card, printer or whatever come with a linux
driver in the accompanying
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 13:38 -0700, Craig White wrote:
The only challenge is for netbook manufacturers to produce a usable
system that they can sell without a bunch of returns.
Geez. If a computer manufacturer isn't able to get enough details from
the chipset manufacturer to create a working
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:50 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
Why stop at printers? I've long believed there should be a generic
windows driver layer in linux that provides all the interfaces
of windows drivers to the kernel so you could use any
windows driver for linux :-).
With all their bugs and
On Saturday 30 May 2009 09:45:41 Tim wrote:
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:50 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
Why stop at printers? I've long believed there should be a generic
windows driver layer in linux that provides all the interfaces
of windows drivers to the kernel so you could use any
windows
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 13:55:53 +0100,
Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote:
I've long been a fan of HP printers, but I bought one model for my daughter
that had the capability of using profiles. It insisted on profiles being set
up. She couldn't use it. I set up a couple of profiles for
Konstantin Svist wrote:
And HP is a huge well known company which obviously doesn't make mistakes
like this.
In fact they don't. Almost all their printers work out of the box with
HPLIP.
http://hplipopensource.com/
I'm supposed to write a driver myself?
No, you're supposed to buy compatible
Tom Horsley wrote:
Yep. In fact the very first time I ever had a plug play scanner
actually function by merely plugging it in was when I plugged in
my new HP multi-function box to my fedora 10 system. I almost
had a heart attack :-). It didn't just plug play on windows,
I had to load
On Friday 29 May 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Konstantin Svist wrote:
Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to
ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P
No, there shouldn't! We'll never get native, Free drivers that way. I don't
want to have to use crappy buggy proprietary
Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net writes:
We will never convince the Lexmarks of the world to give us working
driver writing information until we are a more significant piece of
the market, one they will have to play with on our terms IF they want
to sell us their printers.
I'm told by
On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:22:54 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Thank the HPLIP team for that. :-)
Thanks hplip team! :-).
(No, I don't work for HP nor on the HPLIP project, I just like the fact that
it just works out of the box.)
But what is really unfortunate is that the box doesn't have a penguin
Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:22:54 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Thanks hplip team! :-).
But what is really unfortunate is that the box doesn't have a penguin
printed on it, and HP's product pages don't mention linux or point
to the hplip site. If I was HP, I'd want hordes
Tom Horsley wrote:
But what is really unfortunate is that the box doesn't have a penguin
printed on it, and HP's product pages don't mention linux or point
to the hplip site.
Indeed. They even write: System Requirements: Window$ or Mac. They aren't
willing to officially support their own
O is done by the host computer. There are things the printer can do that
will break the printer. We are talking about things like how long to
heat the little wire to flash-steam the ink etc. Do it for too long and
you damage the wire. On the mickysoft driver, this is all buried in a
binary
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 17:12 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Konstantin Svist wrote:
Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to
ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P
No, there shouldn't! We'll never get native, Free drivers that way. I don't
want to have to use crappy buggy
Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk writes:
You honestly think the bad guys wouldn't just sniff the wire, disassemble
the driver and write printer exploding worms given the chance.
I didn't get the impression that they were as worried about their
printers being targeted by worms as much as they
Les wrote:
snip
But if one already has a system running windows and converts to Linux,
this is not a good option. The software should run with stuff that is
already working to be a good product. Otherwise we will just continue
to be an also ran operating system.
Les, if you can convince some
On Friday 29 May 2009, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net writes:
We will never convince the Lexmarks of the world to give us working
driver writing information until we are a more significant piece of
the market, one they will have to play with on our terms IF
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
You have to download the backend from the Brother site to use the
scanner with SANE.
... because said backend is not Free Software. Proprietary drivers are evil,
please don't recommend them!
Kevin Kofler
Well, I would prefer a
Alan Cox wrote:
O is done by the host computer. There are things the printer can do that
will break the printer. We are talking about things like how long to
heat the little wire to flash-steam the ink etc. Do it for too long and
you damage the wire. On the mickysoft driver, this is all
Kevin Kofler írta:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
You have to download the backend from the Brother site to use the
scanner with SANE.
... because said backend is not Free Software. Proprietary drivers are evil,
please don't recommend them!
Kevin Kofler
I have a HP
On Friday 29 May 2009, Robin Laing wrote:
Alan Cox wrote:
O is done by the host computer. There are things the printer can do that
will break the printer. We are talking about things like how long to
heat the little wire to flash-steam the ink etc. Do it for too long and
you damage the
We use HP and Xerox at work and I would love to get a Xerox Phaser for
home but that is out of my price range. :)
I hear that! There seems to be a major fee attached to the use of the word
Xerox.
More DRM I seem to remember - funny things with print rollers.
In the end I bought a Dell
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:58:44AM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Tom Horsley wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:22:54 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Thanks hplip team! :-).
But what is really unfortunate is that the box doesn't have a penguin
printed on it, and HP's product pages
Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
I have a HP Laserjet 1020. I had to run hp-setup from HPLIP
to make it work, it downloaded a proprietary piece of library
to drive the printer.
Yeah, this is one of the printers HPLIP does not support out of the box,
because it uses a patent-encumbered compression
Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us_personal_journal
fyi,
Max Pyziur
p...@brama.com
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Max Pyziur wrote:
Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us_personal_journal
fyi,
Max Pyziur
p...@brama.com
All the netbooks I tried had compatibility problems with other external
devices. The netbooks
On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:36:46 -0700
Konstantin Svist wrote:
Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to
ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P
Why stop at printers? I've long believed there should be a generic
windows driver layer in linux that provides all the interfaces
of
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:36:46 -0700
Konstantin Svist wrote:
Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to
ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P
Why stop at printers? I've long believed there should be
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:08 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us_personal_journal
fyi,
I suppose inherent is the assumption that the problems don't happen with
Windows and that
Why stop at printers? I've long believed there should be a generic
windows driver layer in linux that provides all the interfaces
of windows drivers to the kernel so you could use any
windows driver for linux :-).
No one ever seems to expect their Mac to use Windows drivers though.
On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:41:12 Konstantin Svist wrote:
True, except for one major difference: when your printer doesn't work
under Windows, it's usually because you didn't install the driver yet
(or installed the wrong one). Unless the printer is at least a few years
old, there are always
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 19:22 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 28 May 2009 18:43:33 Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:08 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us_per
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 19:53 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:41:12 Konstantin Svist wrote:
True, except for one major difference: when your printer doesn't work
under Windows, it's usually because you didn't install the driver yet
(or installed the wrong one). Unless the
On Thu, 28 May 2009 10:43:33 -0700
Craig White wrote:
What the author doesn't say is that he has learned to put up with
Windows problems and writes as if those problems are unique to Linux.
They are not.
Yep. In fact the very first time I ever had a plug play scanner
actually function by
that's because it's a lot more common for mac drivers to come available
with the hardware you buy for your computer. have you ever seen a
keyborad, video card, printer or whatever come with a linux driver in
the accompanying cd?
Arthur Pemberton escreveu:
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM,
On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:58:18 Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 19:22 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 28 May 2009 18:43:33 Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:08 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:22 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:58:18 Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 19:22 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 28 May 2009 18:43:33 Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:08 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote:
Little Laptops
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:58:18 Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 19:22 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
Mine came with Lupus (I think) Linux. I removed it almost from day one
and installed Fedora 10.
My understanding is that it is called 'Linpus'
On Thursday 28 May 2009 20:27:37 Andras Simon wrote:
On 5/28/09, Konstantin Svist fry@gmail.com wrote:
Another example from my experience: I bought a Creative webcam on
impulse (it was very cheap, found it on Slickdeals). Plug it in - no
dice. Search for the drivers - nothing. Some
On Thu, 28 May 2009 13:38:56 -0700, Craig White wrote:
[]
I believe it would be - it was certainly better than the xandros on the
eeepc 701.
well, xandros is a spin off debian so I wouldn't bag on it for that. The
only challenge is for netbook manufacturers to produce a
On Thursday 28 May 2009 21:38:56 Craig White wrote:
silly me, I'm using F11-preview with KDE and I don't notice it slow at
all - at least as long as I'm in performance mode. On battery, well,
that is a bit slower but this isn't a device that I'm choosing for high
performance anyway.
But then
On 05/28/2009 12:36 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:
Max Pyziur wrote:
Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us_personal_journal
fyi,
Max Pyziur
p...@brama.com
All the netbooks I tried had compatibility
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