Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Robert, Have you read man radeon at all? In the man radeon on a handy gentoo system it says: Option IgnoreEDID boolean Do not use EDID data for mode validation, but DDC is still used for monitor

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bill Davidsen wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Robert, Have you read man radeon at all? In the man radeon on a handy gentoo system it says: Option IgnoreEDID boolean Do not use EDID data for mode validation, but DDC is still

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-26 Thread Robert P. J. Day
Quoting Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Robert, Have you read man radeon at all? In the man radeon on a handy gentoo system it says: Option IgnoreEDID boolean Do not use EDID data for mode validation, but

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:22:28 +0100 Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you get wrong data from EDID information then - File a bug - Specify HorizSync and VertRefresh - On most drivers Option DDC false That way you can get it working but someone can also figure out if the monitor data is

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Robert P. J. Day
Quoting Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:22:28 +0100 Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you get wrong data from EDID information then - File a bug - Specify HorizSync and VertRefresh - On most drivers Option DDC false That way you can get it working but someone can

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Konstantin Svist
Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm still fighting to get my WUXGA display laptop to ignore the EDID information coming back from a video device, so i simplified the problem and here's what's happening so far. i have a fresh install of f9 on an aging dell inspiron 9200 with a full WUXGA display,

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Robert P. J. Day
Quoting Konstantin Svist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try using fglrx instead of radeon driver. It has much better support for recognizing bad EDID. At least it works properly on my external monitor (while radeon and radeonhd fuck up the resolution) ok, but keep in mind we're not talking about bad

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Konstantin Svist
Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Konstantin Svist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try using fglrx instead of radeon driver. It has much better support for recognizing bad EDID. At least it works properly on my external monitor (while radeon and radeonhd fuck up the resolution) ok, but keep in mind we're

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Robert P. J. Day
Quoting Konstantin Svist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Konstantin Svist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try using fglrx instead of radeon driver. It has much better support for recognizing bad EDID. At least it works properly on my external monitor (while radeon and radeonhd fuck up

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:32:11 -0400 Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: excellent, i'll give that a shot first thing tomorrow morning. i'm guessing that my system won't have the flgrx module, so i'm assuming i'll have to track it down. You can install the Livna rpm, but if you're using

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Konstantin Svist
Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Konstantin Svist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Konstantin Svist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try using fglrx instead of radeon driver. It has much better support for recognizing bad EDID. At least it works properly on my external monitor (while

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Alan Cox
in the long term, yes, we will eventually figure out what EDID info the video device should have but, in the short term, as tom appreciates, i just want my F9 system to ignore/ignore/ignore whatever is coming back in terms of EDID. and, thus far, i have been utterly unable to do so. Thats

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Robert P. J. Day
Quoting Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: in the long term, yes, we will eventually figure out what EDID info the video device should have but, in the short term, as tom appreciates, i just want my F9 system to ignore/ignore/ignore whatever is coming back in terms of EDID. and, thus far, i have been

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Alan Cox
(II) RADEON(0): Using fuzzy aspect match for initial modes (II) RADEON(0): Output VGA-0 using initial mode 1152x864 (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1152x864 Ok that needs one of the X hackers to interpret further ... should i now try this with fglrx? Probably

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:54:13 -0400 Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have a fresh

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Arthur Pemberton wrote: Since who ever it was made the change to using EDID, I have never had X work the way I want it to again. 1. It always chooses the wrong resolution for me, this is on at least 5 installs on different machines 2. Even after you convince it to use

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Robert P. J. Day wrote: Quoting Konstantin Svist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try using fglrx instead of radeon driver. It has much better support for recognizing bad EDID. At least it works properly on my external monitor (while radeon and radeonhd fuck up the resolution)

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Arthur Pemberton wrote: Since who ever it was made the change to using EDID, I have never had X work the way I want it to again. 1. It always chooses the wrong resolution for me, this is on at

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Chris Tyler
On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 17:20 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Arthur Pemberton wrote: Since who ever it was made the change to using EDID, I have never had X work the way I want it to again. 1. It always chooses the wrong resolution for me, this is on at least 5

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Chris Tyler wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 17:20 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Arthur Pemberton wrote: Since who ever it was made the change to using EDID, I have never had X work the way I want it to again. 1. It always chooses the wrong

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 21Sep2008 16:27, Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: in the long term, yes, we will eventually figure out what EDID info the video device should have but, in the short term, as tom appreciates, i just want my F9 system to ignore/ignore/ignore

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Robert P. J. Day
Quoting Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Robert, Have you read man radeon at all? In the man radeon on a handy gentoo system it says: Option IgnoreEDID boolean Do not use EDID data for mode validation, but DDC is still used for monitor detection. This is

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Tim
Chris Tyler: Are you supplying HorizSync and VertRefresh ranges in the xorg.conf? Robert P. J. Day: nope, i am simply adding the line Option IgnoreEDID True I would have thought that if you're ignoring the device supplied specifications, you'd have to supply them, yourself. Perhaps you

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Tyler: Are you supplying HorizSync and VertRefresh ranges in the xorg.conf? Robert P. J. Day: nope, i am simply adding the line Option IgnoreEDID True I would have thought that if you're ignoring the device supplied

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-21 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 00:34 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: What ever happened to X just supplementing the information it had with what you gave it, instead of overriding your information with what it thinks it has? Yes, I wish the set-up phase would assess would it could, and test it. Then let

desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
i'm still fighting to get my WUXGA display laptop to ignore the EDID information coming back from a video device, so i simplified the problem and here's what's happening so far. i have a fresh install of f9 on an aging dell inspiron 9200 with a full WUXGA display, and i'm trying to

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-20 Thread Roger Heflin
Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm still fighting to get my WUXGA display laptop to ignore the EDID information coming back from a video device, so i simplified the problem and here's what's happening so far. i have a fresh install of f9 on an aging dell inspiron 9200 with a full WUXGA display,

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
Quoting Roger Heflin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm still fighting to get my WUXGA display laptop to ignore the EDID information coming back from a video device, so i simplified the problem and here's what's happening so far. i have a fresh install of f9 on an aging

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-20 Thread Roger Heflin
nope, that made no difference. in fact, from the X log file, it doesn't appear that it had any effect at all. at least with Option IgnoreEDID True the contents of the X log file suggest that EDID processing is cancelled (even though it clearly isn't). with the option above, the X log

Re: desperately seeking IgnoreEDID

2008-09-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:54:13 -0400 Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have a fresh install of f9 on an aging dell inspiron 9200 with a full WUXGA display, and i'm trying to drive a full-res WUXGA signal into an external video processing device that is (theoretically)