Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-11 Thread Robin Laing
Kevin Kofler wrote: Robin Laing wrote: Nvidia has caused some problems but in all the years has worked close to 90% of the time. Freshrpms support is great. I just wish akmod would work as advertised on my systems. FYI, FreshRPMs merged into RPM Fusion, there are no graphics drivers in

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-11 Thread Ian Malone
2009/3/10 Bill Crawford billcrawford1...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 16:13:16 Ed Greshko wrote: If everybody listened to somebody that told them not to buy something then nobody would buying anything. But, the same applies in reverse, and the warnings - which might apply to some

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Kevin Kofler wrote: Michael Cronenworth wrote: The 9560m GT is not a problem. It is. The proprietary driver is known to cause many problems (crashes, serious performance and rendering issues etc.) which we cannot fix because only NVidia has access to the source code. If it is

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Ed Greshko wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Michael Cronenworth wrote: The 9560m GT is not a problem. It is. The proprietary driver is known to cause many problems (crashes, serious performance and rendering issues etc.) which we cannot fix because only NVidia has

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: anyone have good/bad/indifferent experience with one of these running fedora? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220412 No experience, but this thing has an NVidia graphics card. Those are the

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Robert P. J. Day wrote: philosophically, i don't like closed-source drivers any more than the next geek, but sometimes you simply can't avoid getting an nvidia card in some models of laptop. Then you buy another model. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Tim
Robert P. J. Day: philosophically, i don't like closed-source drivers any more than the next geek, but sometimes you simply can't avoid getting an nvidia card in some models of laptop. Kevin Kofler: Then you buy another model. Not always an option. When I bought my laptop, the only local

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Robert P. J. Day wrote: i have to side with ed on this one -- while we may not like closed source technology, nvidia has generally worked well for me when i've had to deal with it. Then why do we routinely get bug reports like (most recent one):

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: philosophically, i don't like closed-source drivers any more than the next geek, but sometimes you simply can't avoid getting an nvidia card in some models of laptop. Then you buy another model. i'm curious, kevin ...

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tim wrote: Not always an option. When I bought my laptop, the only local choices (amongst several computer shops), were NVidia (with supported and unlisted chipsets), ATI (with chipsets known to be problems at the time, or no details), and Intel (with supported chipsets on appallingly low

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: philosophically, i don't like closed-source drivers any more than the next geek, but sometimes you simply can't avoid getting an nvidia card in some models of laptop. Then you buy another model.

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
I wrote: I'd rather buy an appallingly low spec laptop than something requiring proprietary drivers. And changes are the unsupported chipsets from Intel Sorry, s/changes/chances/. would actually have worked just fine with current Fedora, the documentation you based your decision on was just

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Kevin Kofler wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i have to side with ed on this one -- while we may not like closed source technology, nvidia has generally worked well for me when i've had to deal with it. Then why do we routinely get bug reports like (most recent one):

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Tim
Tim wrote: Not always an option. When I bought my laptop, the only local choices (amongst several computer shops), were NVidia (with supported and unlisted chipsets), ATI (with chipsets known to be problems at the time, or no details), and Intel (with supported chipsets on appallingly low

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Steve Searle wrote: Around 09:58am on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 (UK time), Ed Greshko scrawled: Kevin Kofler wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i have to side with ed on this one -- while we may not like closed source technology, nvidia has generally worked well for me when i've

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Robin Laing
Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 09 March 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote: anyone have good/bad/indifferent experience with one of these running fedora? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220412 Robert, I have an ASUS mobo in this machine, but had I known the problems I

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 March 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i have to side with ed on this one -- while we may not like closed source technology, nvidia has generally worked well for me when i've had to deal with it. Then why do we routinely get bug reports like (most recent one):

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 10 March 2009, Robin Laing wrote: [...] In regards to the ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe. I am using one now and it works like a dream. All I had to do was update the BIOS to fix an issue with the amount of RAM I was using. It wouldn't recognize anything over 4Gig when I got it. Which bios

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: i have to side with ed on this one -- while we may not like closed source technology, nvidia has generally worked well for me when i've had to deal with it. Then why do we routinely

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Bill Crawford
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 16:13:16 Ed Greshko wrote: If everybody listened to somebody that told them not to buy something then nobody would buying anything. But, the same applies in reverse, and the warnings - which might apply to some particular hardware, or software versions, more than

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Bill Crawford wrote: On Tuesday 10 March 2009 16:13:16 Ed Greshko wrote: If everybody listened to somebody that told them not to buy something then nobody would buying anything. But, the same applies in reverse, and the warnings - which might apply to some particular hardware,

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 00:13 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: If everybody listened to somebody that told them not to buy something then nobody would buying anything. And Windows wouldn't be as prevalent... Damn! -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.15-78.2.23.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tim wrote: Yeah, right... (with heavy sarcasm). Buy a laptop that you know has an unsupported chipset in the hope that it may be useable two or three years in the future. Don't be completely stupid. What chipset was that and when? Chances are it was actually *already* working in the current

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Robin Laing wrote: Nvidia has caused some problems but in all the years has worked close to 90% of the time. Freshrpms support is great. I just wish akmod would work as advertised on my systems. FYI, FreshRPMs merged into RPM Fusion, there are no graphics drivers in FreshRPMs anymore.

fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-09 Thread Robert P. J. Day
anyone have good/bad/indifferent experience with one of these running fedora? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220412 rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-09 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:  anyone have good/bad/indifferent experience with one of these running fedora? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220412 rday I'm 90% sure it would work fine but newegg is a little light on

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Robert P. J. Day wrote: anyone have good/bad/indifferent experience with one of these running fedora? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220412 No experience, but this thing has an NVidia graphics card. Those are the source of worlds of pain. I strongly recommend going

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-09 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Robert P. J. Day wrote: anyone have good/bad/indifferent experience with one of these running fedora I'm using an N80Vn-X5 on Fedora 10 which is pretty similar to what you are looking at. The only thing I had to do special was tell ALSA to use a particular model of m51va for sound to work.

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 March 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote: anyone have good/bad/indifferent experience with one of these running fedora? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220412 Robert, I have an ASUS mobo in this machine, but had I known the problems I would encounter with its

Re: fedora on asus M70VN-X1?

2009-03-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Cronenworth wrote: The 9560m GT is not a problem. It is. The proprietary driver is known to cause many problems (crashes, serious performance and rendering issues etc.) which we cannot fix because only NVidia has access to the source code. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing