On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:32 AM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I'm not even
sure where to write to to ask for a Gmail enhancement (I have a few
I'd like to register).
have a look at;
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=contact_policy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Thanks g
most welcome. i hope you can get some results.
peace out.
tc,hago.
g
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Don't you think that would be a time wasting sorting
practice...especially when you consider that there could be multiple
unique threads, each with dozens of messages in a given folder?
Most modern mail clients seem to
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Don't you think that would be a time wasting sorting
practice...especially when you consider that there could be multiple
unique threads, each with dozens of messages in a given folder?
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
Tim:
You can test for that yourself with any collection of messages belonging
to a thread, remove the messages linked directly together by the
in-reply-to headers. (Copy a thread to a test folder, remove the every
second
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I presume that's because Gmane is a news posting service. Every
genuine email client I know of supports In-Reply-To. You'll notice
that posts on this list from Gmane users are usually out of
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
However I see that Gmail does add the Message-ID and In-Reply-To
headers, so are you sure the problem is at my end?
could be, if you are saying that you notice post out of order.
all seems to be well with tbird here. i have never seen where any post
where out of
Kevin Kofler wrote:
See reply below where it F***ING BELONGS!!!
Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
What if those of us that know the value of bottom posting
would simply reply as I have done above when replying to
someone that top posts?
How about this? ;-)
and again, you can not get someone to
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I'm using the Gmail web interface for this list, basically as an
experiment. If it's not threading properly, I'll consider changing
(needless to say, it *does* thread properly on Gmail :-)
However I see that Gmail does add the Message-ID and In-Reply-To
headers,
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
What's sure is that KNode is not using the In-Reply-To header (only
References) and Gmail is only looking for that header and ignoring
References. Both behaviors suck for interoperability. (I should probably
try filing
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I'm not even
sure where to write to to ask for a Gmail enhancement (I have a few
I'd like to register).
have a look at;
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=contact_policy
peace out.
tc,hago.
g
.
in a free world without fences, who
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Then I'm somewhat at a loss to understand what you mean by threading.
The linking of replies to the messages being replied to joins the
entire set together into a thread. The presentation of
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 12:16 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Can you give a specific example where the MUA uses the References
header to display messages (i.e. derives some information from it that
is not present in the In-Reply-To header, other than simply copying it
to further replies)?
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 12:16 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Can you give a specific example where the MUA uses the References
header to display messages (i.e. derives some information from it that
is not present in the
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Then I'm somewhat at a loss to understand what you mean by threading.
The linking of replies to the messages being replied to joins the
entire set together
Tim:
You can test for that yourself with any collection of messages belonging
to a thread, remove the messages linked directly together by the
in-reply-to headers. (Copy a thread to a test folder, remove the every
second generation of messages.)
Patrick O'Callaghan:
That's an ingenious
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Ed Greshko wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Hummm. It leaves quite a bit open to interpretation and it would
only link one message with
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Then I'm somewhat at a loss to understand what you mean by threading.
The linking of replies to the messages being replied to joins the
entire set together into a thread. The presentation of the thread as a
visual hierarchy or whatever is a matter for the MUA.
Ed Greshko wrote:
FWIW, not many people know that the From header in the message body
may be totally different from the From in the SMTP envelope and that
the From header isn't used for message transport or delivery.
I would have thought that anyone that got SPAM with their own
address as
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Ed Greshko wrote:
FWIW, not many people know that the From header in the message body
may be totally different from the From in the SMTP envelope and that
the From header isn't used for message transport or delivery.
I would have thought that anyone that
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Beartooth bearto...@swva.net wrote:
Would you believe that's news to me? I've been at this twelve or
fifteen years, with all the exposure that implies -- and don't even
recall ever hearing of that header
There are lots of headers you may never have heard
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
RFC 822:
4.6.2. IN-REPLY-TO
The contents of this field identify previous correspon-
dence which this message answers. Note that if message iden-
tifiers are used in this field,
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 5:24 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote:
if you view the headers of emails, you will find that not all use
'In-Reply-To:'
as an example, your email client is;
} From: Beartooth bearto...@swva.net
} Message-ID: pan.2009.01.03.20.38...@swva.net
} References:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Hummm. It leaves quite a bit open to interpretation and it would
only link one message with one reply. I was looking for something more
all encompassing. But never mind
See reply below... this is a bottom post list.
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:19:35PM +1930, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Beartooth bearto...@swva.net wrote:
Would you believe that's news to me? I've been at this twelve or
fifteen years, with all the
See reply below where it F***ING BELONGS!!!
Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
What if those of us that know the value of bottom posting
would simply reply as I have done above when replying to
someone that top posts?
How about this? ;-)
Kevin Kofler
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Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I presume that's because Gmane is a news posting service. Every
genuine email client I know of supports In-Reply-To. You'll notice
that posts on this list from Gmane users are usually out of their
proper threads. Now you know why. Same thing happens with Yahoo
Ed Greshko wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Hummm. It leaves quite a bit open to interpretation and it would
only link one message with one reply. I was looking for something more
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Yes I probably should have removed a few more headers as well to
totally break it out. But, now this reply will
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:15:51 +1930, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
[...]
It's worth pointing out that RFC-standard threading is controlled by the
In-Reply-To header, not by the Subject, i.e. conforming mail clients pay
*no attention* to the Subject header when displaying threads. People who
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Beartooth wrote:
Would you believe that's news to me? I've been at this twelve or
fifteen years, with all the exposure that implies -- and don't even
recall ever hearing of that header
if you view the headers of emails, you will find that
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Hummm Can't say that I recall an RFC that fully/adequately covers
threading. Can you cite the RFC?
RFC 822:
4.6.2. IN-REPLY-TO
The contents of this field
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Todd Zullinger wrote:
I don't see the benefit of reiterating all of the guidelines in each
message. Perhaps we need a page on the wiki that explains why
a page on wiki would be great. for something *more* to reference to.
but as long as a
Ed Greshko:
I've deleted the References header from this message so it should
appear as a new thread.
Aaron Konstam:
On my machine in evolution it appears as part of the same thread. There
is obviously something I don't understand about the complaints about
this that people keep making.
Aaron Konstam wrote:
You have committed one of the cardinal sins of mail list postings.
You've hijacked a thread.
I've deleted the References header from this message so it should
appear as a new thread.
Don't reply to a message, and change the subject to your choice
that is
Ed Greshko wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
You have committed one of the cardinal sins of mail list postings.
You've hijacked a thread.
I've deleted the References header from this message so it should
appear as a new thread.
Don't reply to a message, and change the subject to your
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Support wrote:
Hi,
I have not setup an AP for a while and would like someone to point in
the right direction on setting an AP on Fedora 10. One can only find
hostapd for FC8 and not 10.
Much appreciated in
Fennix wrote:
Really want to understand this question. Why does this question often
appear on what gmail shows as new threads?
Maybe GMail ignores the References header if the subject changed.
But most threaded mail clients will assume the author knows what he/she is
doing when he/she decides
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
You have committed one of the cardinal sins of mail list postings.
You've hijacked a thread.
I've deleted the References header from this message so it should
appear as a new thread.
Don't
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
Yes I probably should have removed a few more headers as well to
totally break it out. But, now this reply will be out of thread with
your response.
Bottom line People start
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 09:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
Besides, I could never figure out how hitting reply, changing the
subject, and changing the body, to create the illusion of a new*
message is easier than just actually writing a new message.
Only in as much as it avoids the person typing in
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
the In-Reply-To header, not by the Subject, i.e. conforming mail
clients pay *no attention* to the Subject header when displaying
threads. People who hijack threads and plead that they fixed the
Subject line should be told about this so they don't do it again.
poc
Marland V. Pittman wrote:
There's probably enough room in the text that is appended to each
mail to add:
Start new messages by sending to: or To send a message: in front
of fedora-list@redhat.comor something like that.
The list guidelines are included in the footer (as well as on the sign
up
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 00:58 +0800, Fennix wrote:
Why does this question often appear on what gmail shows as new
threads?
That'd be down to the way gmail works, or is configured. Sounds like
it's time for you to wade through gmail's configuration options, and
read the help for any functions
On Wed, 2008-12-31 at 14:06 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
Support wrote:
Hi,
I have not setup an AP for a while and would like someone to point in
the right direction on setting an AP on Fedora 10. One can only find
hostapd for FC8 and not 10.
Much appreciated in advanced!
You have
Hi,
I have not setup an AP for a while and would like someone to point in
the right direction on setting an AP on Fedora 10. One can only find
hostapd for FC8 and not 10.
Much appreciated in advanced!
Alex
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Much appreciated in advanced!
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