Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-13 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-04-12 at 15:30 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: (1) What am I trying to do? Install the proprietary nvidia drivers for my video card. Nvidia advises that the X Window System be stopped during installation. This can be done in either runlevel 1 or 3. Level 3 is better, but since

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-13 Thread Mike Burger
Mike Burger wrote: Ubuntu (the distro in which I believe upstart to have been started) has done away with the inittab, altogether, in favor of another script in their /etc/events.d (their equivalent of Fedora's /etc/event.d) directory that determines default runlevel. Maybe Fedora needs

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-12 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with the X Window System running. What am I missing? ... # Default runlevel. The runlevels used are: # 0 - halt (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # 1 - Single

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-10 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 01:50 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: g wrote: this is interesting and brings a question, are you saying that ubuntu and fedora use /etc/event.d/ instead of inittab or just ubuntu? Just Ubuntu. Kevin Kofler Well it exists in F9 at least. Are you saying it is

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Aaron Konstam wrote: Well it exists in F9 at least. Are you saying it is not used? It's used for event scripts. But the default runlevel is set in /etc/inittab, not in a script in /etc/event.d, whereas Ubuntu does the latter. To be more precise, Fedora's /etc/event.d/rcS script reads the

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-10 Thread g
Aaron Konstam wrote: Well it exists in F9 at least. Are you saying it is not used? existence and usage are 2 different things. what i said is that in version of f10 that i have installed, i changed from level 5 to level 3 via inittab. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-10 Thread g
Kevin Kofler wrote: Just Ubuntu. ok. just wanted to be clear and sure something was not wrong with my f10 install. :) -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-09 Thread g
Mike Burger wrote: Ubuntu (the distro in which I believe upstart to have been started) has done away with the inittab, altogether, in favor of another script in their /etc/events.d (their equivalent of Fedora's /etc/event.d) directory that determines default runlevel. Maybe Fedora needs to

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
g wrote: this is interesting and brings a question, are you saying that ubuntu and fedora use /etc/event.d/ instead of inittab or just ubuntu? Just Ubuntu. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-08 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/7 D. Hugh Redelmeier h...@mimosa.com: | From: Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com | runlevel=$(/bin/awk -F ':' '($3 == initdefault) ($1 !~ /(#|;)/) { print $2 }' /etc/inittab) Probably you meant ($1 !~ /^(#|;)/) Actually I didn't - hence my comment: I've assumed that

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-07 Thread Mike Burger
Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Mike Burger wrote: I'm still doing some digging. I thought there was a thread on this very topic in a previous release, but I can't find it (maybe it was in fedora-list rather than fedora-test-list), anyway it is a very old

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-07 Thread Mike Burger
Mike Burger wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Hummm Bad news I had to test this and have in the intttab file # 5 - X11 # 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # ; id:5:initdefault: id:3:initdefault: And the system still comes up in run level 5. There is probably no

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Mike Burger wrote: I'm still doing some digging. I thought there was a thread on this very topic in a previous release, but I can't find it (maybe it was in fedora-list rather than fedora-test-list), anyway it is a very old bug I'm surprised is still

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-07 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 12:30 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Mike Burger wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Hummm Bad news I had to test this and have in the intttab file # 5 - X11 # 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # ; id:5:initdefault: id:3:initdefault:

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-07 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
Mike Burger wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 06:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Mike Burger wrote: I'm still doing some digging. I thought there was a thread on this very topic in a previous release, but I can't find it (maybe it was in fedora-list rather than fedora-test-list), anyway

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-07 Thread Mike Burger
Mike Burger wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Hummm Bad news I had to test this and have in the intttab file # 5 - X11 # 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # ; id:5:initdefault: id:3:initdefault: And the system still comes up in run level 5. There is probably no

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:21:54 -0400 Mike Burger wrote: However, I pop in and out of this list, given the level of traffic and my availability to monitor and try to answer questions (when I *think* that I'm actually capable of answering them), based on workload and travel, so it may be

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-07 Thread Mike Burger
Mike Burger wrote: Again...within inittab, the # character is not a comment delimiter...the ; character is. Because the # was used, the first default line was matched, therefore processing to determine the default runlevel stopped at the first match...the line with the 5 in it.

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-07 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com | runlevel=$(/bin/awk -F ':' '($3 == initdefault) ($1 !~ /(#|;)/) { print $2 }' /etc/inittab) Probably you meant ($1 !~ /^(#|;)/) Simpler, I think: runlevel=`/bin/awk -F ':' '/^[^#;]/ ($3 == initdefault) { print $2 }' /etc/inittab`

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-07 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike Burger wrote: Fair enough, if that is to be the end product...but if you want to test something, and don't want to litter the system with dozens of backup inittab files and the like, commenting a line is quicker than fully editing it in and out. I don't understand this at all. It's a

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-07 Thread Robert Nichols
Craig White wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 12:30 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Mike Burger wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Hummm Bad news I had to test this and have in the intttab file # 5 - X11 # 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # ; id:5:initdefault: id:3:initdefault:

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:23 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: --- On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net wrote: | I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with | the X Window System running. What am I missing? | | id:1:initdefault: \--

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 23:13 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:23 +0930, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with the X Window System running. What am I missing?

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Tim
Shakthi Kannan: Use id:3:default: http://www.fedorafaq.org/basics/#textonly Jonathan Ryshpan: I have (of course) tried that too. Runlevel 1 should have the same effect as 3, only more so. I'd agree with using 3 as a text-only default, rather than 1. Single mode has less security - you end

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have (of course) tried that too. Runlevel 1 should have the same effect as 3, only more so. jon No really. You lose a lot of security. You also lose networking. What are you trying to do that you want to start in run level 1? Mikkel -- Remember, sometimes

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 23:15 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:23 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: --- On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net wrote: | I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with | the X Window

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Mike Burger
Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with the X Window System running. What am I missing? # id:5:initdefault: id:1:initdefault: I seem to recall seeing that before, delete

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Mike Burger
Mike Burger wrote: Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with the X Window System running. What am I missing? # id:5:initdefault: id:1:initdefault: I seem to recall seeing

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Mike Burger wrote: Mike Burger wrote: Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with the X Window System running. What am I missing? # id:5:initdefault: id:1:initdefault: I

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Ed Greshko wrote: Mike Burger wrote: Mike Burger wrote: Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with the X Window System running. What am I missing?

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Ed Greshko wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Mike Burger wrote: Mike Burger wrote: Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with the

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ed Greshko wrote: Hummm Bad news I had to test this and have in the intttab file # 5 - X11 # 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # ; id:5:initdefault: id:3:initdefault: And the system still comes up in run level 5. There is probably no comment sign anymore.

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Mike Burger
Mike Burger wrote: Mike Burger wrote: Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with the X Window System running. What am I missing? # id:5:initdefault: id:1:initdefault: I seem to

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Mike Burger
Ed Greshko wrote: Hummm Bad news I had to test this and have in the intttab file # 5 - X11 # 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # ; id:5:initdefault: id:3:initdefault: And the system still comes up in run level 5. There is probably no comment sign anymore.

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Mike Burger
Ed Greshko wrote: Never mind. I see what you are saying after all I forgot for the moment that the original id line was left in the modified file Duh... And, of course, I replied before seeing this. Sorry. -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Mike Burger
Ed Greshko wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Mike Burger wrote: Mike Burger wrote: Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with the X Window System running. What am I missing? #

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Mike Burger wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Hummm Bad news I had to test this and have in the intttab file # 5 - X11 # 6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # ; id:5:initdefault: id:3:initdefault: And the system still comes up in run level 5. There is

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Mike Burger wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Mike Burger wrote: Mike Burger wrote: Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the

initdefault has no effect

2009-04-05 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with the X Window System running. What am I missing? Thanks - jon # Default runlevel. The runlevels used are: # 0 - halt (Do NOT set initdefault to this) # 1 - Single user mode # 2 - Multiuser, without NFS (The same as 3,

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-05 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:42 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with the X Window System running. What am I missing? # id:5:initdefault: id:1:initdefault: I seem to recall seeing that before, delete the commented-out line. --

Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-05 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net wrote: | I have /etc/inittab set up as follows, but the system always starts with | the X Window System running.  What am I missing? | | id:1:initdefault: \-- Use id:3:default: http://www.fedorafaq.org/basics/#textonly