On Monday 02 February 2009 13:54:00 Robin Laing wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 09:53 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com
wrote:
\SNIP
the truth is though, that he is not the only one who switched from KDE
to
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Robin Laing robin.la...@drdc-rddc.gc.ca wrote:
..snip...
My daughter prefers Gnome over KDE because KDE makes here think of Macs and
she has had her fair share of nightmares with Mac's.
Funny thing. While using KDE 4.1 in F10, I was tweaking settings and
the very
Robin Laing wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 09:53 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com
wrote:
\SNIP
the truth is though, that he is not the only one who switched from KDE
to GNOME. It's about the expectations.
When I
Armin wrote:
On Monday 02 February 2009 13:54:00 Robin Laing wrote:
Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 09:53 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com
wrote:
\SNIP
KDE 4.1 is pretty good. I am having some weird issues that I don't
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:29:32 -0700
Robin Laing wrote:
Ok, honestly, I have been trying to find out what do you guys in kick-off
that
is like window$, but I have yet to find out. I don't see anything to be
the
same except that there are some things and you click on them.
I
On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 14:29 -0700, Robin Laing wrote:
I find the way the menu is now into multi-levels in KDE to be like my
experience with Vista and XP without the classic interface. To many
clicks/mouse motions to get to where I want to be.
I prefer the classic menu as it drops one
Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 09:53 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com
wrote:
\SNIP
the truth is though, that he is not the only one who switched from KDE
to GNOME. It's about the expectations.
When I installed F10 on the
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote:
Followup to let you know what I decided for myself - I have switched
from KDE to Gnome. I tried, but KDE4 is just not ready today.
Have fun. I've been with KDE since 3.2, and KDE 4 since 4.0. Quite
frankly, 4.2 beats the
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 09:53 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com
wrote:
Followup to let you know what I decided for myself - I have
switched
from KDE to Gnome. I tried, but KDE4 is just not ready today.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 09:53 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com
wrote:
Followup to let you know what I decided for myself - I have
switched
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 11:51 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
I guess I should have posted a public announcement back when I
switched from Gnome to KDE.
I thought that was what blogs are for.
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 11:51 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
I guess I should have posted a public announcement back when I
switched from Gnome to KDE.
I thought that was what blogs are for.
Craig
This thread
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 12:07 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 11:51 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
I guess I should have posted a public announcement back when I
switched from Gnome to KDE.
On Friday 30 January 2009 16:47:13 Craig White wrote:
I personally agree that I would rather be using the KDE on F10 than
GNOME but not everyone who disagrees is inherently wrong.
Absolutely correct. However, there is a difference between saying that you
are much happier with a different
On 01/28/2009 11:07 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
Mail Lists wrote:
- I've been unable to add items to my desktop menu(s)
System - Preferences - Look and Feel - Main Menu
I'm able to add and remove items using this tool.
I was thinking of Right (or left) Click on Background Menu rather
On 12/21/2008 02:05 PM, Mail Lists wrote:
I am a long time KDE user - in part for similar reasons to Linus - it
was configurable, flexible and let me set things up the way I wanted -
..
(1) Are the fedora KDE users moving back to gnome ? ... is KDE dead
or alive ?
Followup to
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote:
On 12/21/2008 02:05 PM, Mail Lists wrote:
I am a long time KDE user - in part for similar reasons to Linus - it
was configurable, flexible and let me set things up the way I wanted -
..
(1) Are the fedora
Mail Lists wrote:
Switching was not without some discomfort and effort ... of note:
- I've been unable to add items to my desktop menu(s)
System - Preferences - Look and Feel - Main Menu
I'm able to add and remove items using this tool.
- keyring management needs help - and
On ven, 2009-01-02 at 16:26 -0400, Armin wrote:
Guys, for god's sake, this thread is really starting to walk on my nerves.
Have you guys ever tried 4.2 beta 2? And plus, if you love evolution, why
not
just use gnome. KMail in my opinion is way better and easier to configure
that
On Saturday 03 January 2009 10:52:40 Ambrogio wrote:
On ven, 2009-01-02 at 16:26 -0400, Armin wrote:
If I love evolution can I use it on KDE? I used it on KDE for years, why
I have to switch to gnome now?
And if I love gimp, I have to switch to gnome?
And if after I love ktorrent or sone
On sab, 2009-01-03 at 11:25 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
Hi, Ambrogio. You really don't have to switch to gnome to use evolution or
gimp, or any other application (nor would you have to switch to kde if you
were running in gnome and wanted to run a kde application). Installing the
I use KDE too.
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Michael Leung
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On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Ambrogio fn050...@interfree.it wrote:
On sab, 2009-01-03 at 11:25 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
Hi, Ambrogio. You really don't have to switch to gnome to use evolution
or
On Saturday 03 January 2009 11:44:30 Ambrogio wrote:
For example, I'm Italian and I like in most cases that applications
localized work well.
But, if I start gnome and I launch evolution and gimp (that are 2
applications that I use very often) menus are in italian.
If I start KDE and use the
On Friday 02 January 2009 16:15:35 Ambrogio wrote:
On dom, 2008-12-21 at 14:05 -0500, Mail Lists wrote:
That was the way things used to be. Now KDE is harder to configure,
not as flexible and is difficult if not impossible to set up the way I
like things (task manager showing 1 icon per
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 02 January 2009 16:15:35 Ambrogio wrote:
On dom, 2008-12-21 at 14:05 -0500, Mail Lists wrote:
That was the way things used to be. Now KDE is harder to configure,
not as flexible and is difficult if not impossible to
Anne Wilson wrote:
I tried to find out the current state of this, for you.
The echos I got from upstream are that it should be way better in 4.2 than
4.1. They implemented a new library called Kephal in kdebase-workspace
which is designed to improve multi-monitor support.
explaned me that if
On Tuesday 30 December 2008 14:00:22 Ian Pilcher wrote:
Proper dual-head support is the omission that affects me the most right
now.
I tried to find out the current state of this, for you. Here are the replies
I've received so far:
1) Dual monitor as in Xinerama or NVidia's TwinView?
I've
On Wednesday 31 December 2008 08:16:44 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 30 December 2008 14:00:22 Ian Pilcher wrote:
Proper dual-head support is the omission that affects me the most right
now.
I tried to find out the current state of this, for you. Here are the
replies I've received so far:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
Taking note that 'removed functionality' is not the same as 'has not
yet been added back', what functionality do you need that has been
removed from KDE 4.x?
If it hadn't been removed, it wouldn't need adding back.
Proper dual-head support is the omission that affects
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
Taking note that 'removed functionality' is not the same as 'has not
yet been added back', what functionality do you need that has been
removed from KDE 4.x?
If it hadn't been removed, it
MKas wrote:
kdeutilsi3866:4.1.3-1.fc10installed
5.6 M
Depends on system-config-printer for the printer applet. That in turn pulls
in some GNOME stuff. We should probably get system-config-printer split as
it is in Ubuntu (they separate the core files from
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
MKas wrote:
kdeutilsi3866:4.1.3-1.fc10installed
5.6 M
Depends on system-config-printer for the printer applet. That in turn pulls
in some GNOME stuff. We should probably get
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
Why does the GUI [of system-config-printer] depend on gnome at all? As
opposed to just Gtk?
It depends on gnome-python2, presumably because it uses some of its
features. (I think the systray
I like KDE, but what I see:
bash-3.2# yum remove *gnome*
Resolution
Dependencies Resolved
Package ArchVersion Repository
MKas wrote:
I like KDE, but what I see:
bash-3.2# yum remove *gnome*
Surely you don't have to remove *gnome* in order to use KDE?
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Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
We went a few rounds about this several months ago. I said at the time
that Fedora is a Gnome platform that also supports KDE, but that
seemed to bother some people (to be clear: I'm a KDE user myself).
However even if this is the case with Fedora, it doesn't mean
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
As a final point, let me say that I absolutely do not blame any of the
Fedora developers, the KDE SIG, etc., for this situation. From my
perspective, this is entirely the fault of the KDE
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net
wrote:
MKas wrote:
I like KDE, but what I see:
bash-3.2# yum remove *gnome*
Surely you don't have to remove *gnome* in order to use KDE?
True. But it makes the arguement that KDE in Fedora is
Ian Pilcher wrote:
Mail Lists wrote:
(1) Are the fedora KDE users moving back to gnome ? ... is KDE dead
or alive ?
I'm strongly considering it. Almost all of the applications that I use
regularly are GTK-based anyway, and Red Hat and Fedora have always been
more focused on GNOME than
On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 14:30 -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
[...]
several years of experience with it on 4 different platforms (OpenBSD,
Fedora, OpenSuse, and FreeBSD) have convinced me that KDE has security
holes (or bugs) which permit exploits which cause me lots of trouble.
This happens with
Armin Moradi wrote:
You mean the PolicyKit prompts? Santa is bringing you this review
request. ;-)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477199
I'm doing the review, I think we can get this into Rawhide soon, and then
we'll see for F10 and F9.
Kevin Kofler
Thanks! :D will
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
Armin Moradi wrote:
You mean the PolicyKit prompts? Santa is bringing you this review
request. ;-)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477199
I'm doing the review, I think we can get this into Rawhide soon,
Alain Roger wrote:
For now i just found in Gnome the terminal features nice...lkike
transparent background... but the menu by itself is horrible as usual :-(
Konsole can also do transparent background (it's set up in your Konsole
color scheme), but only if you have desktop effects enabled in
Mail Lists wrote:
(1) Are the fedora KDE users moving back to gnome ? ... is KDE dead
or alive ?
Nope, I'm still using and comaintaining KDE, I don't see how KDE 4.1 is any
worse than 3.5. Well, there's a couple of missing features, but most of
those are coming back in 4.2. I don't think
reviews and
summaries of what works and what is still missing or buggy so that when it
is released I can feel confident of making the switch back.
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Mike Cloaked wrote:
I have not tried the KDE 4.2 test version (in EPEL?)
No, in kde-redhat.
EPEL is Fedora packages which are not included in RHEL rebuilt for
RHEL/CentOS/Scientific Linux, it has nothing to do with this.
4.1.85 (4.2 Beta 2) is now in kde-redhat's testing repository. But please
Armin Moradi wrote:
That argument is really old. Nowadays with the great work of the KDE
SIG, Fedora is
as much KDE centred as it is focused on GNOME. You see little to no
difference between
them these days!
Call me when system-config-* is written in Qt.
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Ian Pilcher wrote:
Armin Moradi wrote:
That argument is really old. Nowadays with the great work of the KDE
SIG, Fedora is
as much KDE centred as it is focused on GNOME. You see little to no
difference between
them these days!
Call me when system-config-* is written in Qt.
Imo, there
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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote:
Armin Moradi wrote:
That argument is really old. Nowadays with the great work of the KDE
SIG, Fedora is
as much KDE centred as it is focused on GNOME. You see little to no
difference between
them these days!
Call me
Rex Dieter wrote:
Imo, there are much better uses of developer time than to re-write
system-config-* tools in multiple toolkits.
I never claimed otherwise.
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Ian Pilcher wrote:
Rex Dieter wrote:
Imo, there are much better uses of developer time than to re-write
system-config-* tools in multiple toolkits.
I never claimed otherwise.
I fail to see the point of making the the comment then.
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Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at
wrote:
You mean the PolicyKit prompts? Santa is bringing you this review
request. ;-)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477199
I'm doing the review, I think we can get this into Rawhide soon,
You mean the PolicyKit prompts? Santa is bringing you this review
request. ;-)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477199
I'm doing the review, I think we can get this into Rawhide soon, and then
we'll see for F10 and F9.
Kevin Kofler
Thanks! :D will it be pushed as an
I am a long time KDE user - in part for similar reasons to Linus - it
was configurable, flexible and let me set things up the way I wanted -
easily and simply. It had a very nice configuration manager. Gnome by
contrast was rigid, inflexible and to configure it - the bits it
allowed you to -
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote:
I am a long time KDE user - in part for similar reasons to Linus - it
was configurable, flexible and let me set things up the way I wanted -
easily and simply. It had a very nice configuration manager. Gnome by
contrast
I was a die-hard KDE/Konqueror user. But became an instant convert to
Firefox when I discovered NoScript. Now I have stopped using KDE because
several years of experience with it on 4 different platforms (OpenBSD,
Fedora, OpenSuse, and FreeBSD) have convinced me that KDE has security
holes (or
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote:
[ snip ]
(1) Are the fedora KDE users moving back to gnome ? ... is KDE dead
or alive ?
KDE has never been more alive. I stiull prefer it to Windows, MacOS and Gnome
(2) Are there fedora Gnome users moving to KDE ? It
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Dave Feustel dfeus...@mindspring.com wrote:
I was a die-hard KDE/Konqueror user. But became an instant convert to
Firefox when I discovered NoScript. Now I have stopped using KDE because
several years of experience with it on 4 different platforms (OpenBSD,
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 02:53:23PM -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Dave Feustel dfeus...@mindspring.com wrote:
I was a die-hard KDE/Konqueror user. But became an instant convert to
Firefox when I discovered NoScript. Now I have stopped using KDE because
Hi
2008/12/21 Mail Lists li...@sapience.com:
I am a long time KDE user - in part for similar reasons to Linus - it
was configurable, flexible and let me set things up the way I wanted -
easily and simply. It had a very nice configuration manager. Gnome by
contrast was rigid, inflexible
Mail Lists wrote:
(1) Are the fedora KDE users moving back to gnome ? ... is KDE dead
or alive ?
I'm strongly considering it. Almost all of the applications that I use
regularly are GTK-based anyway, and Red Hat and Fedora have always been
more focused on GNOME than KDE, so it's hard to see
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Mail Lists li...@sapience.com wrote:
I am a long time KDE user - in part for similar reasons to Linus - it
was configurable, flexible and let me set things up the way I wanted -
easily and simply. It had a very nice configuration manager. Gnome by
contrast
Red Hat and Fedora have always been
more focused on GNOME than KDE, so it's hard to see any reason to
continue with KDE now that the things that I like about it have been
sacrificed on the altar of the KDE developers' grand vision.
That argument is really old. Nowadays with the great work of
which
desktop Linus is using at the moment?
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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
Armin Moradi wrote:
That argument is really old. Nowadays with the great work of the KDE
SIG, Fedora is
as much KDE centred as it is focused on GNOME. You see little to no
difference between
them these days!
read some time ago that Linus was a long time avid fan of KDE. I
wondered if he still is a KDE(4) fan, as he uses Fedora I was told, that was
all.
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