Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2010-01-05 Thread Tony Nelson
On 10-01-04 23:40:46, Ed Greshko wrote: > Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > And I cannot get my notebook to even go over 800x600 for the > internal > > display without using system-config-display to create a xorg.conf > to > > get higher resolution with FC12. How do I convince X to give me > more >

Re: Using xandr -- Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2010-01-05 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 05 January 2010 14:21:19 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 01/05/2010 05:39 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Sorry to jump in this thread, but have you tried to use xrandr to set up > > the resolution you want? That way you don't need to generate xorg.conf, > > and can convince X to give you an

Using xandr -- Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2010-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/05/2010 05:39 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Tuesday 05 January 2010 05:00:02 Paul Allen Newell wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I cannot get my notebook to even go over 800x600 for the internal display without using system-config-display to create a

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2010-01-05 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 05 January 2010 05:00:02 Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: > > Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> And I cannot get my notebook to even go over 800x600 for the internal > >> display without using system-config-display to create a xorg.conf to > >> get higher resolution with FC12. Ho

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2010-01-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/04/2010 11:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I cannot get my notebook to even go over 800x600 for the internal display without using system-config-display to create a xorg.conf to get higher resolution with FC12. How do I convince X to give me more without the xorg.

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2010-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Ed Greshko wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: And I cannot get my notebook to even go over 800x600 for the internal display without using system-config-display to create a xorg.conf to get higher resolution with FC12. How do I convince X to give me more without the xorg.conf? BTW, this is on an

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2010-01-04 Thread Ed Greshko
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > And I cannot get my notebook to even go over 800x600 for the internal > display without using system-config-display to create a xorg.conf to > get higher resolution with FC12. How do I convince X to give me more > without the xorg.conf? > > BTW, this is on an HP nc2400

Re: another question on "Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace"

2010-01-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
More butting in... On 01/04/2010 10:32 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: Don't do that. See: http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ (with screenshots even! :) There is no need a

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2010-01-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Putting my problem into this thread... On 12/27/2009 02:06 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:42:19 -0800 Paul Allen Newell wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore t

another question on "Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace"

2010-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Paul Allen Newell wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: Don't do that. See: http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ (with screenshots even! :) There is no need at all to make an xorg.conf, and as you have seen it can cause problems

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-29 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Suvayu and Ed: Thanks for these replies. Points taken as they help me see the weaknesses in my understanding. So, yeah, I got hacking / homework ahead ... and seeing if I can figure out enough to feel comfortable learning / switch to bash from tcsh. Paul Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Paul, On Mond

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Ed Greshko
Ed Greshko wrote: > Paul Allen Newell wrote: > >> I think part of my confusion is that I am not understanding whether a >> login shell covers everything that is done once I have logged in via >> splash screen or if it is confined to "logining into a shell". If the >> former, then I would assume

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Paul, On Monday 28 December 2009 09:21 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: The man page tells you under what conditions the various files (/etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile ~/.bash_login etc) are read depending on what type of shell (interactive, login). Are you saying there is a sit

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Ed Greshko
Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > I think part of my confusion is that I am not understanding whether a > login shell covers everything that is done once I have logged in via > splash screen or if it is confined to "logining into a shell". If the > former, then I would assume bash_profiles is hit once a

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Ed Greshko wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Aaron, On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote:

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Ed Greshko
Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: >> Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> >>> Suvayu Ali wrote: >>> Hi Aaron, On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: > >> ~/.bash_profile g

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Ed Greshko wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Aaron, On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: ~/.bash_profile gets sourced by any "well behaved" desktop environment when ever you l

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Ed Greshko
Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Suvayu Ali wrote: >> Hi Aaron, >> >> On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >>> On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: ~/.bash_profile gets sourced by any "well behaved" desktop environment when ever you login. In my experience X

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi Aaron, On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: ~/.bash_profile gets sourced by any "well behaved" desktop environment when ever you login. In my experience XFCE and WindowMaker does this. (I don't use

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Allen Newell
TNWestTex wrote: Paul Allen Newell wrote: François Patte wrote: Paul Allen Newell a écrit : To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 w

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Suvayu and Tim: A very good explanation of the differences and what to expect from each. Suvayu is correct in understanding my emails that I am running tcsh as that is the shell I am most familiar with thanks to work environments. Given the info that I have gotten here, I will take a stab at f

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Aaron, On Monday 28 December 2009 02:11 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: ~/.bash_profile gets sourced by any "well behaved" desktop environment when ever you login. In my experience XFCE and WindowMaker does this. (I don't use Gnome/KDE as often,

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Ed Greshko
Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Suvayu Ali wrote: >> On Sunday 27 December 2009 11:06 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:42:19 -0800 >>> Paul Allen Newell wrote: >>> To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f1

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 03:04 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi Paul, > > On Sunday 27 December 2009 10:52 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > Suvayu Ali wrote: > >> > >> If the OP is interested, the command line way to do this would be to > >> have one of your login scripts like ~/.bash_profile say, > >>

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread TNWestTex
you use the advice from François you can make the other changes by using su - to get to root without having to reinstall. In textmode you have control over your system that the graphical boot takes away from you. Besides on all the systems I've tried so far it is much faster to login and typ

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 17:58 +1030, Tim wrote: > Abbreviating down to the salient comments, > ~/.bash_profile says: > # User specific environment and startup programs > > ~/.bashrc says: > # User specific aliases and functions NB: I should add that's the textbook situation. When it comes to prac

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-28 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Paul, On Sunday 27 December 2009 10:52 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: If the OP is interested, the command line way to do this would be to have one of your login scripts like ~/.bash_profile say, setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp ;) Suvayu: Thanks, this is intere

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 22:52 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > So it is in .bash_profile and not .bashrc? Abbreviating down to the salient comments, ~/.bash_profile says: # User specific environment and startup programs ~/.bashrc says: # User specific aliases and functions -- [...@localhost ~]$

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Suvayu Ali wrote: On Sunday 27 December 2009 11:06 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:42:19 -0800 Paul Allen Newell wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature.

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Sunday 27 December 2009 11:06 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:42:19 -0800 Paul Allen Newell wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. How did you disc

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:42:19 -0800 Paul Allen Newell wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. How did you discover this? Trying it in a gno

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 00:42 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to i

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
François Patte wrote: Paul Allen Newell a écrit : To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Eric Tanguy wrote: Le 27/12/2009 09:42, Paul Allen Newell a écrit : To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:42:19 -0800 Paul Allen Newell wrote: > To all: > > Installed f12 without any problems. > > Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I > could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. How did you discover this? Trying it in a gnome desktop? :) >

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 00:42 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > To all: > > Installed f12 without any problems. > > Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could > edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. > > Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install >

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Karl-Olov Serrander
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Eric Tanguy wrote: Le 27/12/2009 09:42, Paul Allen Newell a écrit : ... I figure I have no choice but to reinstall (what's a few hours between friends (grumble)) ... but would like to know the proper (which may be not documented) way to restore "crtl-alt-backspace" to kic

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread François Patte
Paul Allen Newell a écrit : To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display to create an xorg.con

Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Eric Tanguy
Le 27/12/2009 09:42, Paul Allen Newell a écrit : To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display to c

problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Allen Newell
To all: Installed f12 without any problems. Discovered that crtl-alt-backspace was disabled in f12 and how I could edit my xorg.conf to restore that feature. Searched Fedora f12 web pages and they told me to install system-config-display to create an xorg.conf that matched the default that