Re: Texlive schemes?

2009-12-23 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 05:03:21PM +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: Am Dienstag, den 22.12.2009, 15:09 +0100 schrieb Jindrich Novy: On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:45:52AM +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi all, after texlive 2009 crashed my latex compiling process one day before I wanted to

New covenant published (was: Re: moonlight and the new covenant)

2009-12-23 Thread Alex Hudson
On 19/12/09 11:03, Alex Hudson wrote: The covenant is published as far as I can see here: No, that's the previous one which was not good enough. The new one is not yet published. Correction: it's now published here - http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/newmoonlight.mspx

License change: sextractor

2009-12-23 Thread Sergio Pascual
Hi all: the new version of sextractor in rawhide (2.8.6) will have a CeCILL license. Previously, sextractor was distributed under GPLv2 Regards -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are from main branch. Anything built anywhere else will never be official. How about scratch builds? Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 08:50:11PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are from main branch. Anything built anywhere else will never be official. How about scratch builds? What about them? Scratch

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/23/2009 09:04 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 08:50:11PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are from main branch. Anything built anywhere else will never be official. How about

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Dec 23, 2009, at 7:20, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are from main branch. Anything built anywhere else will never be official. How about scratch builds?

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Dec 23, 2009, at 7:38, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 12/23/2009 09:04 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 08:50:11PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 12/22/2009 09:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: FWIW - I agree with both jesse and jarod. Official builds are

Power Management caused 2 second instant poweroff on Desktop

2009-12-23 Thread Paul Wouters
Hey, I just had the weirdest thing ever, on Fedora 12 I was working on my desktop, running F-12, KVM and like 10 VM's up and running. I had clicked on the update button, but since I was using a voip (hardware) phone had not yet clicked on download updates. I iconified the window to get rid of

Re: Create a -cli package without a different executable

2009-12-23 Thread Nicoleau Fabien
Le Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:08:45 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com a écrit : On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:39:18PM +0100, Julian Aloofi wrote: Am Freitag, den 18.12.2009, 18:12 +0100 schrieb Nicoleau Fabien: Hi, I'm packaging phatch that provides /usr/bin/phatch, a graphical

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jarod Wilson wrote: On 12/22/09 2:45 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: And as I wrote before, I don't like this at all, it's a regression from our current workflow Define our. Our current workflow = what Fedora's current CVS setup allows. In my personal opinion, Jesse is spot-on, we should NOT

Re: New covenant published (was: Re: moonlight and the new covenant)

2009-12-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Alex Hudson wrote: Correction: it's now published here - http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/newmoonlight.mspx To my untrained eye, it seems to cover Moonlight fully, the termination clause doesn't work retroactively, it includes coverage for the Mono portions and it

Re: Vala programs and compiling from source

2009-12-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Peter Robinson wrote: Some what different in that vala is source code that generates plainly readable C code. A .dll is a binary library. Its not exactly the same arguement. So if I encode a Mono DLL as: unsigned char dll_data[]={...}; and generate the .dll from that, is that source code???

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/23/2009 01:38 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: As the patent license is non-Free, Moonlight still has to be considered non- Free wherever software patents apply. So as far as I can tell, this is not acceptable for Fedora, sorry. (But of course spot and/or RH Legal will have the final word.)

Re: All I want for Christmas is digiKam 1.0 in F12-stable...

2009-12-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jeffrey Ollie wrote: That's to be expected, as rpm -i installs a package without removing the old one. Unless the package is specially designed (like the kernel) you'll get conflicts. Normally, you'd want to use rpm -U which will remove the old package before installing the new one.

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/23/2009 01:56 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: On 23/12/09 18:46, Tom spot Callaway wrote: With that said, this new covenant does NOT change our stance on Moonlight. It is still not permissible in Fedora. Can I ask on what grounds? Is the patent license insufficient, or is there some other

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Alex Hudson
On 23/12/09 18:58, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 12/23/2009 01:56 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: Can I ask on what grounds? Is the patent license insufficient, or is there some other problem? It's difficult to fix things if we don't know what's broken. The most obvious issue is that it does

Re: Vala programs and compiling from source

2009-12-23 Thread Krzesimir Nowak
2009/12/23 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: IMHO generated code does not belong into source tarballs at all. gtkmm tarballs distribute generated C++ source code to avoid using maintainer tools like mm-common or gmmproc by distro packagers. and that is for a long long time. Are we going to

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/23/2009 02:10 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: On 23/12/09 18:58, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 12/23/2009 01:56 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: Can I ask on what grounds? Is the patent license insufficient, or is there some other problem? It's difficult to fix things if we don't know what's broken.

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/24/2009 12:52 AM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: It grants no patent rights to Distributors, aside from those already granted to Novell in the previous covenant. What it practically means is that once you distribute, you stop being considered an End User by Microsoft, and are no longer

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Tom spot Callaway wrote: (Yes, the irony of a talk on software patents being offered in MP3 format is not lost on me.) Just think... one more year... one more year... -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 19:28 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: The whole problem is that such branches do not exist at all in the new git setup! If you get eaten by raptors, you can't expect another maintainer to come in after you and have to dig around for a private branch to update a build.

Re: Kernel security update required or not?

2009-12-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:56:26 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel clydekunkel7...@cox.net wrote: does adding nomodeset to kernel parm line in grub.conf work? It gets me back to the other problem. So yeah it does seem like we are seeing the same thing. I update the bug to mention this. --

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com said: Tom spot Callaway wrote: (Yes, the irony of a talk on software patents being offered in MP3 format is not lost on me.) Just think... one more year... one more year... It doesn't look like that is the case:

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Jarod Wilson
On 12/23/09 3:21 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 19:28 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: The whole problem is that such branches do not exist at all in the new git setup! If you get eaten by raptors, you can't expect another maintainer to come in after you and have to dig around

Re: Kernel security update required or not?

2009-12-23 Thread Christopher Brown
2009/12/21 Bojan Smojver bo...@rexursive.com: On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 22:21 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I didn't see any of the recent previous spec file comments indicate back ported security fixes. So its unlikely the latest security fixes are in any earlier version. If you want them now,

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Sir Gallantmon
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Alan Milnes a...@linux.com wrote: 2009/12/23 Alex Hudson fed...@alexhudson.com: I realise a number of people don't care for Mono-related technologies, but it would be sad to see Fedora left out in the cold for this stuff. Actually it makes me very *happy*

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 15:46 -0500, Jarod Wilson wrote: Okay, we've definitely got some slight misunderstanding here... :) I was objecting to Kevin's suggestion that we should be able to build official packages from branches named ^private-*. But building from a branch tagged something

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Roland McGrath
I understand the use case, I'm still not super keen on having official built packages come out of a branch. Makes discovery somewhat difficult, and leads to problems if we have to bump+build something and don't realize that the real live code is actually on a branch. Surely all previous

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 14:23 -0800, Roland McGrath wrote: I understand the use case, I'm still not super keen on having official built packages come out of a branch. Makes discovery somewhat difficult, and leads to problems if we have to bump+build something and don't realize that the real

major ghc breakage: anybody working on fixing them? (was Re: rawhide report: 20091223 changes)

2009-12-23 Thread Alex Lancaster
Rawhide Report writes: So these huge slew of broken deps (seems like more than 10 packages) for ghc have been in the rawhide reports for over a week now, is anybody actively maintaining and/or planning to fix these packages? If not, please let us know so a provenpackager can fix these, they

Re: major ghc breakage: anybody working on fixing them?

2009-12-23 Thread Alex Lancaster
to: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-20091223/logs/repodiff abiword was successfully rebuilt: abiword-2.8.1-3.fc13 * Mon Dec 21 2009 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com - 1:2.8.1-3 - Rebuild against new libwv but the depcheck shows it still broken: http

Re: (huge) Ruby packaging changes

2009-12-23 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
On 12/22/2009 06:36 PM, Ville Skyttä wrote: On Tuesday 22 December 2009, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: - Use the alternatives system to point to one stack or the other for the system default stack (think standalone applications). Not that I'm anywhere near an expert in ruby matters, but I have

Re: (huge) Ruby packaging changes

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/24/2009 05:49 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: Care to explain the term environment-modules for me please? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/EnvironmentModules Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Meeting tomorrow

2009-12-23 Thread Mike McGrath
We always have meetings on Thursday at 20:00 UTC. This thursday is no different though I know I won't be there. But for those that show up, by all means talk and have a meeting :) -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] TAPR Open Hardware License

2009-12-23 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/12/2009 12:54 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, --- On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: | Umm... this license isn't a copyright license, nor is it useful for | software, fonts, or content. What are you trying to do with it? \-- Would like to

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] TAPR Open Hardware License

2009-12-23 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi Tom, --- On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: | Red Hat Legal thinks this is non-free, because the indemnification | clause (7.4) is too broad. \-- Thanks for following this up, and for your reply. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com

Advanced routing, 2ISP

2009-12-23 Thread David Hláčik
Guys, please I have no luck with this. I have 2 ISPS. I have working configuration with ip route a 2 routing tables in a way, that matching local subnet uses second provider while all the others are using the first one - main. The main problem I am having is, that I am unable to reach my router

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Roger
On 12/23/2009 03:21 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. If you are using the proprietary nvidia driver or some other non kms equipped driver, how are you finding F12 ? Ie do you experience freezing when

Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:53 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: 2009/12/21 DB freddog...@yahoo.co.uk Hi Chris, The original command was tar cvzf F11_Home_Dave_20091217.tar.gz /home/Dave and the problem is that tar tvh F11*gz lists all the

Re: Missing posts again ??

2009-12-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 22:02 -0500, William Case wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 21:50 -0500, William Case wrote: Hi; ** Just now, as I was typing this at 9:41 pm EST, I received 61 fedora-list posts. Six or seven of the posts are current. The rest are marked yesterday or two days

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread steven bellens
2009/12/23 Roger are...@bigpond.com: On 12/23/2009 03:21 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. If you are using the proprietary nvidia driver or some other non kms equipped driver, how are you finding

RE: Moving to Fedora .. my GUI gone..

2009-12-23 Thread Ishmael Chibvuri
Hie there I tried to install KDE (K desktop), removing GNOME desktop and all its utilities from Linux Ubuntu since I wanted some nice features from Fedora.. After rebooting.. Only the shell comes up.. the GUI is not starting... where could I be going wrong.. After converting .rpm files

Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-23 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
Il giorno mer, 23/12/2009 alle 08.46 +, Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto: AFAIK in modern Linux systems running sync doesn't actually guarantee anything beyond what umount is already doing. poc The umount command does the sync so if you run umount /media/My_External_HDD and then you get

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
I use whatever Fedora uses when it is run in a Qemu/KVM virtual machine. If I recall correctly, this driver has not yet gained KVM capabilities. I wonder why KMS support has been so slow to appear for the simplest devices. 2009/12/23, steven bellens bellensste...@gmail.com: 2009/12/23 Roger

Mount of .dmg (mac image) files on Linux Fedora fails

2009-12-23 Thread Mark Ryden
Hello, Why can't I mount a dmg (macintosh image) file on Fedora 11 ? I tried mounting several .dmg mac files did not have any success with it. Here is an example: I downloaded Firefox\ 3.5.6.dmg from http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.5.6os=osxlang=en-US

Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-23 Thread Chris Smart
2009/12/23 Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano mont...@gmail.com: The umount command does the sync so if you run umount /media/My_External_HDD and then you get back to the shell, you are safe to remove the HDD. My point was to run the sync command and then run the checksum before unmounting This ensures

Re: Mount of .dmg (mac image) files on Linux Fedora fails

2009-12-23 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, Mark Ryden markr...@gmail.com writes: Hello, Why can't I mount a dmg (macintosh image) file on Fedora 11 ? I tried mounting several .dmg mac files did not have any success with it. maybe [1] is the way to go? I stumbled upon it while searching for a way to 'unzip' firmware updates for

Re: Missing posts again ??

2009-12-23 Thread William Case
Thanks Patrick; On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 08:55 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 22:02 -0500, William Case wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 21:50 -0500, William Case wrote: Hi; ** Just now, as I was typing this at 9:41 pm EST, I received 61 fedora-list

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Andrew Haley
On 12/23/2009 04:21 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. Or some other video driver that doesn't support kernel mode switching. DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to hear a debate on the free

Re: Tar oddity...

2009-12-23 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
Il giorno mer, 23/12/2009 alle 20.23 +1100, Chris Smart ha scritto: 2009/12/23 Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano mont...@gmail.com: The umount command does the sync so if you run umount /media/My_External_HDD and then you get back to the shell, you are safe to remove the HDD. My point was to run

Re: Mount of .dmg (mac image) files on Linux Fedora fails

2009-12-23 Thread Mark Ryden
Hello, Thanks ! tried using this tool, and running this: ./dmgx.sh Firefox\ 3.5.6.dmg firefox iso got ... No errors reported. and firefox iso was created but file firefox iso gives firefox.iso: data and mount -t iso9660 -o loop firefox.iso /mnt/test/ gives: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad

Re: Mount of .dmg (mac image) files on Linux Fedora fails

2009-12-23 Thread suvayu ali
2009/12/23 Michael Welle mwe012...@gmx.net: Hi, Mark Ryden markr...@gmail.com writes: Hello, Why can't I mount a dmg (macintosh image) file on Fedora 11 ? I tried mounting several .dmg mac files did not have any success with it. maybe [1] is the way to go? I stumbled upon it while

Thunderbird search option is not working

2009-12-23 Thread Jatin K
Dear all I'm using thunderbird 3.0-4 on my Fedora 12 64bit .. all works fine but not search ... whenever I try to search mail for particular item, every time it founds nothing. thus I'm unable to search anything in thunderbird can any one tell me the solution for this -- °v°

New plugin for system-config-network for PPTP connections

2009-12-23 Thread Сергей Варюхин
Hi, i create new plugin for system-config-network as my course work in FESU university. It is plugin for PPTP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPTPconnections. See links to archive and patch for details. Unfortunately, i don't know how to send patches in initscripts (ifup and ifdown scripts etc.), so

Re: Mount of .dmg (mac image) files on Linux Fedora fails

2009-12-23 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, Mark Ryden markr...@gmail.com writes: Hello, Thanks ! tried using this tool, and running this: ./dmgx.sh Firefox\ 3.5.6.dmg firefox iso got ... No errors reported. and firefox iso was created but file firefox iso gives firefox.iso: data and mount -t iso9660 -o loop firefox.iso

Re: Missing posts again ??

2009-12-23 Thread DB
On 12/23/2009 05:19 AM, fedora-list-requ...@redhat.com wrote: Hi; On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 20:24 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 11:00 -0500, William Case wrote: Hi; I am once again not receiving some posts from the fedora-list.

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Steven I Usdansky
On 12/23/2009 03:21 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. If you are using the proprietary nvidia driver or some other non kms equipped driver, how are you finding F12 ? Ie do you experience freezing

Re: New plugin for system-config-network for PPTP connections

2009-12-23 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 21:02 +1000, Сергей Варюхин wrote: Hi, i create new plugin for system-config-network as my course work in FESU university. It is plugin for PPTP connections. See links to archive and patch for details. Unfortunately, i don't know how to send patches in initscripts (ifup

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Linuxguy123 == Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com writes: Linuxguy123 Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the Linuxguy123 proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau Linuxguy123 driver. Linuxguy123 DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to hear a debate Linuxguy123

Re: Missing posts again ??

2009-12-23 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 04:52 -0500, William Case wrote: The blockage seems to be at the fedora-list You can tell, for sure, by reading the mail headers and looking at the dates and times for each server it's gone through. or why else would I receive a block of 61 posts, some of the posts

Re: [fedora-virt] how to active XEN on Fedora 12

2009-12-23 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 22/12/2009 alle 11.05 -0800, Boris Derzhavets ha scritto: http://bderzhavets.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/setup-ubuntu-9-10-server-pv-domu-at-xen-3-4-1-dom0-2-6-31-6-pvops-kernel-on-top-of-fedora-12/ Thank Boris for reply, but I want only use yum install something I'm not a

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Richard Shaw
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. Or some other video driver that doesn't support kernel mode switching. DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to

Re: Missing posts again ??

2009-12-23 Thread Steve Searle
Around 04:10am on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 (UK time), Antonio Olivares scrawled: +1000 I have reported this before too :( https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-November/msg00448.html Strange behavior, not just me (TM) Post the email headers. Lets see where the delay is.

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Steve Searle
Around 04:21am on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 (UK time), Linuxguy123 scrawled: DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to hear a debate on the free versions versus proprietary or anything else. Please sir, can I have permission to post something. I know you are in charge and that this mailing

Re: [fedora-virt] how to active XEN on Fedora 12

2009-12-23 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mer, 23/12/2009 alle 05.03 -0800, Boris Derzhavets ha scritto: You can use F12's KVM, but once again Libvirt will be required to manage VMs. F12 is a bleeding edge system for development, high performance virtualization environment. You might not need it at all. So, VMware might

boot screen font size?

2009-12-23 Thread Tom Horsley
With kernel mode setting, my (text mode, rhgb turned off) boot screen on my HD TV monitor is about 8000 lines by 24 columns (maybe not quite that many :-) with the font it picks by default to use with 1920x1280 resolution. Is there any way to convince it to pick a much much larger font size

Re: OT: howto change Firefox's default print options

2009-12-23 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 16:02 -0800, Mike Wright wrote: Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 13:42 -0800, Mike Wright wrote: Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/22/2009 11:32 AM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, I need help with the default printing options in Firefox. It has a very

Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head

2009-12-23 Thread Rallias UberNerd
Copy the xorg.conf file from the cd to where it belongs. On 12/17/09 2:04 PM, Kirk Lowery wrote: I just installed Fedora 12 using the LiveCD. It discovered my nvidia and samsung hardware with the dual monitors. In particular, it stretched the default desktop background across both screens. All

Re: Booting Fedora-12 from hard disk, again, again

2009-12-23 Thread Timothy Murphy
jackson byers wrote: There's no actual restriction on just where the ISO image itself is, so long as you can feed the full path to Anaconda by specifying the device and directory on that device (see http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/s1- begininstall-hd-x86.html for

RE: [fedora-virt] how to active XEN on Fedora 12

2009-12-23 Thread Dan Burkland
Xen uses a special kernel so as far as I know you will first have to remove the default one with yum remove kernel. Then try the yum install xen virt-manager kernel-xen command and it should work. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com

grub configuration, boot.

2009-12-23 Thread Dj YB
hello, I have been trying to look over many solutions and tutorials with no luck. my goal was and still is, to clone my internal 40GB hard-drive which contain fc11 on to my external usb-hard-drive 500GB. aftar many tutorials I finally used Clonezilla. that worked great and the hdd is cloned. the

RE: How many people need to use the proprietary NVIDIA driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Dan Burkland
I have used the proprietary driver for its superb handling of 3D acceleration over nouveau. However, with the release of 2.6.33 near, I may give Nouveau as it now supports KMS (It may have in the past I'm not quite sure). Dan -Original Message- From:

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Greg Woods
On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 21:21 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. I use the proprietary Nvidia driver on two different workstations under F12, one at home and one at work, for two different reasons. At

Re: No F-12 Flash -

2009-12-23 Thread Amadeus W.M.
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:51:10 +, Colin Paul Adams wrote: Amadeus == Amadeus W M amadeu...@verizon.net writes: Amadeus I got libflashplayer-10.0.42.34.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz Amadeus from some download site that google will find it easily, Amadeus for 64 bit fedora. Unzip it

Re: [fedora-virt] how to active XEN on Fedora 12

2009-12-23 Thread M A Young
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Dario Lesca wrote: Il giorno mar, 22/12/2009 alle 11.05 -0800, Boris Derzhavets ha scritto: http://bderzhavets.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/setup-ubuntu-9-10-server-pv-domu-at-xen-3-4-1-dom0-2-6-31-6-pvops-kernel-on-top-of-fedora-12/ Thank Boris for reply, but I want only

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Dennis Mattingly
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. Or some other video driver that doesn't support kernel mode switching. DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to hear a debate on the free versions

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary NVIDIA driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 12/23/2009 07:54 PM, Dan Burkland wrote: I have used the proprietary driver for its superb handling of 3D acceleration over nouveau. However, with the release of 2.6.33 near, I may give Nouveau as it now supports KMS (It may have in the past I'm not quite sure). Dan

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Dennis Mattingly
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. Or some other video driver that doesn't support kernel mode switching. DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to hear a debate on the free versions

RE: How many people need to use the proprietary NVIDIA driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 08:24 -0600, Dan Burkland wrote: On 12/23/2009 03:21 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. If you are using the proprietary nvidia driver or some other non kms

RE: How many people need to use the proprietary NVIDIA driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Dan Burkland
Thanks for the link, it was an interesting read. Looks like I'll be doing some testing this week :) Dan -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list- boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Rahul Sundaram Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:47 AM To:

RE: [fedora-virt] how to active XEN on Fedora 12

2009-12-23 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mer, 23/12/2009 alle 08.20 -0600, Dan Burkland ha scritto: Xen uses a special kernel so as far as I know you will first have to remove the default one with yum remove kernel. Then try the yum install xen virt-manager kernel-xen command and it should work. On F12 the package

Re: Moving to Fedora .. my GUI gone..

2009-12-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 09:10:54 Ishmael Chibvuri wrote: I tried to install KDE (K desktop), removing GNOME desktop and all its utilities from Linux Ubuntu since I wanted some nice features from Fedora.. After rebooting.. Only the shell comes up.. the GUI is not starting...

Cannot open www.netflix.com

2009-12-23 Thread Kaustubh Gadkari
Hi, I just installed Fedora 12 x86_64. Everything works fine, except that I cannot access www.netflix.com in any browser (I tried Firefox, Konqueror and Chrome). I can access the site from Windows, as well as Ubuntu. Has anyone else faced the same problem? Thanks, Kaustubh -- Kaustubh Gadkari

Yumex crashes -

2009-12-23 Thread Bob Goodwin
I have two new F-12 installs, one each 32 and 64 bit boxes. Yumex fails on both, although I think it may have worked initially after the Omegalive install. My memory is a bit fuzzy on that point, but it could have resulted from an update if that is the case. Yumex asks for a

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread Kevin Kempter
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 07:46:17 Dennis Mattingly wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. Or some other video driver that doesn't support kernel mode switching.

Re: Upgraded Fedora 12, only loads shell...Need GUI if possible

2009-12-23 Thread TNWestTex
Matt Kalinec wrote: Hey people... I just upgraded a 256mb ram laptop that I had FC11 running on to FC12, but now it only loads shell. I need the GUI accessible to, if that is possible. I'm still fairly new to Fedora, and could use the help. With out your hardware specifications it

Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2009-12-23 Thread TNWestTex
Linuxguy123 wrote: Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. Or some other video driver that doesn't support kernel mode switching. DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to hear a debate on the free versions versus

What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?

2009-12-23 Thread Linuxguy123
My wife is a busy professional person. The organization she works for uses Microsoft applications for scheduling and email. The users access their information via web browsers. She is using the Safari browser on her iPhone to gain access to her information. My wife needs better access to her

Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?

2009-12-23 Thread Kevin Kempter
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 09:53:56 Linuxguy123 wrote: My wife is a busy professional person. The organization she works for uses Microsoft applications for scheduling and email. The users access their information via web browsers. She is using the Safari browser on her iPhone to gain

Re: Moving to Fedora .. my GUI gone..

2009-12-23 Thread suvayu ali
2009/12/23 Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 09:10:54 Ishmael Chibvuri wrote: I tried to install KDE (K desktop), removing GNOME desktop and all its utilities from Linux Ubuntu since I wanted some nice features from Fedora.. After rebooting.. Only the shell

Re: boot screen font size?

2009-12-23 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net wrote: With kernel mode setting, my (text mode, rhgb turned off) boot screen on my HD TV monitor is about 8000 lines by 24 columns (maybe not quite that many :-) with the font it picks by default to use with 1920x1280

Re: Yumex crashes -

2009-12-23 Thread NoSpaze
Am Mittwoch, den 23.12.2009, 11:09 -0500 schrieb Bob Goodwin: /usr/bin/yumex: line 5: 3234 Segmentation fault (core dumped) /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/yumex/yumex.pyc $* Does anyone have a solution or do I just have to wait 'til it's fixed? Or do I have something

Re: Yumex crashes -

2009-12-23 Thread Jim
On 12/23/2009 11:09 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have two new F-12 installs, one each 32 and 64 bit boxes. Yumex fails on both, although I think it may have worked initially after the Omegalive install. My memory is a bit fuzzy on that point, but it could have resulted from an update if

Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?

2009-12-23 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:00 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 09:53:56 Linuxguy123 wrote: So what is the smallest practical device that will run F12 ? How else could one run apps like Evolution and Contact on a small device ? Could they be made to run on a

Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?

2009-12-23 Thread Mike Wohlgemuth
On 12/23/2009 11:53 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: How else could one run apps like Evolution and Contact on a small device ? Could they be made to run on a Symbian device ? What about Android ? You might want to check out Davmail: http://davmail.sourceforge.net/ It will talk to Microsoft's

Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?

2009-12-23 Thread Kevin Kempter
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 10:42:50 Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:00 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 09:53:56 Linuxguy123 wrote: So what is the smallest practical device that will run F12 ? How else could one run apps like Evolution and

Re: grub configuration, boot.

2009-12-23 Thread TNWestTex
Bugzilla from yehi...@mail.ru wrote: hello, I have been trying to look over many solutions and tutorials with no luck. my goal was and still is, to clone my internal 40GB hard-drive which contain fc11 on to my external usb-hard-drive 500GB. aftar many tutorials I finally used

Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?

2009-12-23 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 12:52 -0500, Mike Wohlgemuth wrote: On 12/23/2009 11:53 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: How else could one run apps like Evolution and Contact on a small device ? Could they be made to run on a Symbian device ? What about Android ? You might want to check out

Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?

2009-12-23 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:58 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 10:42:50 Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:00 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 09:53:56 Linuxguy123 wrote: So what is the smallest practical device that will run F12 ?

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