Art list Artists... Greetings
Hello all, I'm Jon, artist I guess, hehe. I am extremely happy to see Fedora 9 is out! I recently have had problems with Vista and HP supporting updated drives and such to the point that I came back to my computer and it was in recovery mode automatically without me doing anything. It's a new computer too with little on it but all my work files that have been destroyed I think, Thanks to HP they didn't give me a recovery CD with computer just some cheap pre-installed recovery program that isn't working. SO after all this frustration. I was like, hmmm forget Windows I want to try Fedora. The reason for this long email is one, I do art as well, and would really like to get involved with anything I can with all of you. and 2, I am running a hp 32 bit computer and am in the process of downloading the 6 discs of Fedora to install on my laptop, and Have no clue as to where to burn the 2 files, Fedora-9-i386-netinst.iso and SHA1SUM I can burn the ISO's to the 6 discs but I couldn't find anywhere in the step by step directions on what to do with these 2 files. Maybe I'm Dumb? At this point I can't even get into Windows, I no long have windows on my laptop so I am starting from scratch booting the CDs from my laptops CD drive. Also I need help partitioning my computer for Fedora. Anyone willing to let me pay them for step by step help? I am humbled to my bones and thank for for all your valuable time, even if you don't get back to me. bestest of the best regards, Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release
2008/7/17 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am thinking about improving the nodoka gtk engine looks in the next release and adding some configuration options. Therefore I am asking here, if you have ideas, requests, ... what I might implement. Today I started sketching new nodoka gradient (used in e.g. buttons), which is basically an evolvement of the current one which will be available as a configuration option. Next things on the schedule are: * improvement of the check/radio button design * improvement of various arrows used in nodoka (e.g. in scrollbars, menus or drop-down menus) * improvement of handles design (I am satisfied neither with the circles nor stripes) * improvement of design of combo of entries with buttons (combo box entries, spin buttons, ...) * improvement of progress bar design (I see there a possibility for usage of various designs, with a configuration option to choose) * improvement of focus rings design (it's part of some of the above tasks as well) * possibly add some gradient to panel (I am still not sure, how to do it right) As you can see it's rather a lot of work, and thus there is a possibility it will not be in Fedora 10, though certainly I make it in time for Fedora 11 (I promise :-p). And why I am writing this? Partly to write what I have in mind, but mostly because I need your cooperation. So far I have in mind few ideas how to achieve the above tasks, but I'd like to hear your ideas as well - after all, Fedora Artwork is not done by one, but by many people, and this is one of the vital parts of the Fedora Artwork. I attach the first button redesign sketch ;-) Once I gather enough ideas I'll put them on wiki, so everyone could see and comment on the official next version design ;-) Comments welcome, tear me to pieces :-D Thanks, Martin PS: I'll most likely be the one doing the coding, but feel free to suggest whatever you have in mind, as long as there are no colour jumps (the glass effects present e.g. in Murrine). I'd like Nodoka to be built up mostly on using gradients and simple shadows and it would be great if it was different from the other engines not only by it's configurability but also by it's looks. Looking good so far. Any news on the input field bug? can you fix that in nodoka? or still no investigation done? ^_^ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 22:00 +0200, Mark wrote: Looking good so far. Any news on the input field bug? can you fix that in nodoka? or still no investigation done? ^_^ Most likely I'll need to wait for GTK3 :-( Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: mockup gtk theme
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:28 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 23:26 +0800, Andy Fitzsimon wrote: Hi martin, If you could help me understand our limitations ill make some more specific mockups for you http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2706976226_d9d7e58f17_o.png http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/2706174405_6f7cb0e3a7_o.png No points for being original here, I was thinking ofwhat osx and xp would look like if they were smashed together in the right way. getting the conditionals to render like this is what I am more interested in. Andy The mock-ups looks great. The basic idea is implementable, one of the biggest limitations we have is that you should draw stuff only on the widget's rectangle of being otherwise you'll bound to hit problems with specific cases of repaints of the area, Actually, you can play around with the draw-border style property to overcome this, partially. http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkWidget.html#GtkWidget--draw-border I haven't really seen any themes make use of that, so it is possible that there are issues, but the basic mechanism is there. For the multi-select listview, I noticed in your mockup, I am not sure if that's possible to implement - as the drawing function is called for all items separately, but I cannot say now that it's impossible. Not feasible. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: mockup gtk theme
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:38 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: Actually, you can play around with the draw-border style property to overcome this, partially. http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkWidget.html#GtkWidget--draw-border I haven't really seen any themes make use of that, so it is possible that there are issues, but the basic mechanism is there. Aah, thanks for the info, I'll perhaps try it out. If there are issues that are fixable within the gtk 2.x series, we should triage and fix them, shouldn't we ;-) Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release
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Re: mockup gtk theme
Hey Andy, Andy Fitzsimon wrote: Hi martin, If you could help me understand our limitations ill make some more specific mockups for you http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2706976226_d9d7e58f17_o.png http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/2706174405_6f7cb0e3a7_o.png One thing about the mockups - I don't know much about the tech limitations side at all, but I wanted to point out that I think the buttons, tabs, and progress bars are a little fat. I mean, as it is, I've got 1024x768 resolution laptop, and in the gimp I use the small theme rather than the normal default gtk sizes theme, and I still struggle for screen real estate. I have a real estate problem in Inkscape too. I want the buttons and bars to be slimmer... at the size they're at they kind of feel like a child's toy? (Does that make sense? Sort of big fat knobs for little hands? :) ) If they went on a little slimming diet though they'd be perfect. It's a beautiful mockup and I think it feels Fedora. I think the sizing issues could be worked out with a 'real' mockup rather than the widgetfactory style mockup... then you see them a bit more in context maybe and can size them down appropriately/in proportion? One other piece of feedback! The arrows at the top and bottom of the scrollbars that they have the negative space semicircle on them... it makes them look a little agressive, like fangs, when the rest seems soft because of all the rounded corners. You know what I mean? Nodoka today is like that but it's a little more pronounced in the mockup because the grey area of the arrows is a bit more elongated? I kind of feel similarly about the highlighting on the tabs... I think with some minor tweaking the 'fangs' on the tabs would look good though, just a bit of rounding on the sharp point of each fang... not sure how to adjust the ones on the scrollbar though. (Does that make sense?) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Poster revision
Paul W. Frields wrote: The Marketing team has been discussing how we can organize our future Fedora messaging around the 4 Foundations theme (freedom, friends, features, first). I think people here already know these terms from elsewhere[1], so I won't belabor the point. :-) Ahhh the f-f-f-f reminds me of the old McDonald's campaign - food, folks, and fun! food folks and fun! You know the one, McDonald's, for food, folks, and fun!!! (now that's stuck in my head, arghh) Freedom, friends, and fun! You know the one, Fedora... ././ ././ So, I'm asking if the Artwork team can create new poster artwork around the 4 Foundations, to spread this new message as effectively as the one you helped build around our logo. I've put this on the design queue[3] as well. I'm wondering if this could be tied into the F10 artwork theme I've been sketching up some steampunky doodles lately. Maybe I'll do some along these lines. Here are some steampunk-inspired ideas: FREEDOM === - person strapped to a Wright-Brothers-esque flying contraption (flight is usually associated with freedom... or maybe a steampunky blimp/zeppelin ride with a crowd of steampunky people together waving on the balcony, you also get the community aspect there) - a steamboat floating down a wide river towards a rising sun on the horizon (open spaces, sun coming up, flowing water can all symbolize great potential and/or freedom, I think) FRIENDS === - steampunky sailors toasting on deck, their pewter mugs of grog clanking together - maybe a silly idea, but a group of victorian/steampunky clad women in a circle, each knitting a piece together. Maybe what they're knitting is a Fedora flag? - Or maybe a few steampunky people sitting at a steampunky piano playing piano together? (collaboration!) FEATURES - a steampunky rube goldberg machine? (but maybe that gives a false impression that we overengineer!) - a clockmaker with wearing those funky spectacles working on the gears inside a pocket watch (could represent infinity also, if you draw the gears right) - old-style movie camera projecting onto a wall, 3... 2... 1 fedora! FIRST = - a steampunky astronaut putting a Fedora flag on the moon? - a steampunky rail-cart (eg http://www.die-cast-toys.com/plastic-soldiers/swoppets/railcart.jpg) race with the coolest-looking rail-cart driver clearly in first place (maybe he has a Fedora logo on him somewhere or somehow represents Fedora; maybe he has a more interesting wardrobe than the rest so he stands out) - or maybe a steamboat race instead of a railcart race :) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[PATCH] Add 'lint' target to Makefile.common
- ajax
? Makefile.common.jx
Index: Makefile.common
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/common/Makefile.common,v
retrieving revision 1.107
diff -u -p -r1.107 Makefile.common
--- Makefile.common 28 Jul 2008 22:36:27 - 1.107
+++ Makefile.common 29 Jul 2008 15:28:54 -
@@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ DIST_DEFINES = --define dist $(DIST) -
BUILD_FLAGS ?= $(KOJI_FLAGS)
+LOCALARCH := $(if $(shell grep -i '^BuildArch:.*noarch' $(SPECFILE)), noarch, $(shell uname -m))
## a base directory where we'll put as much temporary working stuff as we can
ifndef WORKDIR
@@ -314,6 +315,11 @@ endif
mockbuild : srpm
mock $(MOCKARGS) -r $(MOCKCFG) --resultdir=$(MOCKDIR)/$(TAG) rebuild $(SRCRPMDIR)/$(NAME)-$(VERSION)-$(RELEASE).src.rpm
+# check the build with rpmlint
+lint:
+ @test -e $(NAME)-$(VERSION)-$(RELEASE).src.rpm || (echo run 'make local' first ; exit 1 )
+ rpmlint $(NAME)-$(VERSION)-$(RELEASE).src.rpm $(LOCALARCH)/*-$(VERSION)-$(RELEASE).$(LOCALARCH).rpm
+
# build for a particular arch
$(ARCHES) : sources $(TARGETS)
$(RPM_WITH_DIRS) --target $@ -ba $(SPECFILE) 21 | tee .build-$(VERSION)-$(RELEASE).log ; exit $${PIPESTATUS[0]}
@@ -322,7 +328,7 @@ $(ARCHES) : sources $(TARGETS)
FORCE:
# build whatever's appropriate for the local architecture
-local: $(if $(shell grep -i '^BuildArch:.*noarch' $(SPECFILE)), noarch, $(shell uname -m))
+local: $(LOCALARCH)
# attempt to apply all the patches, optionally only for a particular arch
ifdef PREPARCH
@@ -585,6 +591,7 @@ help:
@echo install Local test rpmbuild install
@echo compile-short Local test rpmbuild short-circuit compile
@echo install-short Local test rpmbuild short-circuit install
+ @echo lint Run rpmlint against local build output
@echo export Create clean export in \cvs-$(TAG)\
@echo check Check test srpm preps on all archs
@echo srpm Create a srpm
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Pungi and F7
Jesse has mentioned (in an earlier thread on fedora-devel) that the Pungi in F7 has some caveats. At the moment I am considering a migration from livecd-tools to pungi on F7 _before_ I migrate to F9 (this is all for the OLPC School Server, btw). So my questions are roughly: - What known limitations does the F7 pungi have? - Is it known to build a minimal cli distro installer correctly? cheers, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Pungi and a minimal F9 - anaconda-runtime/buildinstall errors
Getting my feet wet with pungi, I am tring to build a minimal F9
installer, and it is erroring out, as follows.
The ks file is adapted from one from the livecd packages:
$ cat livecd-fedora-9-minimal.ks
repo --name=release
--mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-9arch=$basearch
repo --name=updates
--mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f9arch=$basearch
%packages
@core
bash
kernel
passwd
policycoreutils
chkconfig
authconfig
rootfiles
%end
My commandline is
$ sudo pungi -c livecd-fedora-9-minimal.ks --nosource --force --ver=F9
and it bails out on me thus:
Pungi.Pungi:INFO: Making repodata
Warning: Reusing existing destination directory.
450/450 - Packages/notification-daemon-0.3.7-9.fc9.i386.rpmPungi.Pungi:INFO:
Running /usr/bin/repoview --quiet --state-dir
/var/cache/pungi/repoviewcache --title Fedora F9 - i386
/home/martin/pungi-tests-9/F9/i386/os
Pungi.Pungi:INFO: Running /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/buildinstall
--product Fedora --version F9 --release Fedora F9 --bugurl
http://bugzilla.redhat.com /home/martin/pungi-tests-9/F9/i386/os
Pungi.Pungi:ERROR: Got an error from /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/buildinstall
Pungi.Pungi:ERROR:
Saving Primary metadata
Saving file lists metadata
Saving other metadata
Generating sqlite DBs
Sqlite DBs complete
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/pungi, line 189, in module
main()
File /usr/bin/pungi, line 98, in main
mypungi.doBuildinstall()
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pypungi/pungi.py, line 168,
in doBuildinstall
pypungi._doRunCommand(buildinstall, self.logger) #, env={TMPDIR:
self.workdir})
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/pypungi/__init__.py, line
70, in _doRunCommand
raise OSError, Got an error from %s: %s % (command[0], err)
OSError: Got an error from /usr/lib/anaconda-runtime/buildinstall:
installed versions of the relevant tools are -
$ rpm -qa | grep '^\(rpm\|anaconda\|pungi\|repo\)' | sort
anaconda-11.4.0.82-1.i386
anaconda-runtime-11.4.0.82-1.i386
pungi-1.2.18.1-1.fc9.noarch
repoview-0.6.2-1.fc9.noarch
rpm-4.4.2.3-2.fc9.i386
rpm-build-4.4.2.3-2.fc9.i386
rpm-devel-4.4.2.3-2.fc9.i386
rpm-libs-4.4.2.3-2.fc9.i386
rpmlint-0.83-1.fc9.noarch
rpm-python-4.4.2.3-2.fc9.i386
(which are up-to-date F9 AFAICT)
any hints welcome...
cheers,
martin
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Re: Pungi and F7
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 12:09 +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote: - What known limitations does the F7 pungi have? Only that you need to have anaconda-runtime in your manifest, which drags in a pile of dependencies. There are a couple of other compose needs, I think the config shipped with F7 has them listed under a commented section. - Is it known to build a minimal cli distro installer correctly? Provided the right things are in your manifest, yes. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Pungi and a minimal F9 - anaconda-runtime/buildinstall errors
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Jesse Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please check the arch.log file in your output/logs/ directory, so that you can get the actual output from buildinstall. Good hint, thanks. Missing anaconda-runtime it seems. Pungi.Pungi.DEBUG: Running buildinstall... /tmp/buildinstall.tree.7NRF8R /tmp No Match for argument anaconda-runtime Nothing to download adding anaconda-runtime makes things work. I end up with a 700MB DVD and 2 CD images, as apparently Gnome gets pulled in. Perhaps @base contains Gnome. I might need to say '--nobase'. Retrying... further hints as to how to build a minimal cli F9 installer ISO welcome... m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Pungi and a minimal F9 - anaconda-runtime/buildinstall errors
Getting closer :-) With the following ks I get a 208MB iso that boots into anaconda. Anaconda, however, says The Fedora disk was not found in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert the Fedora disk and press OK to retry. What does anaconda look for? $ cat kickstarts/pungi-f9-minimal.ks repo --name=release --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-9arch=$basearch repo --name=updates --mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-f9arch=$basearch %packages --nobase [EMAIL PROTECTED] bash kernel passwd policycoreutils chkconfig authconfig rootfiles anaconda-runtime -gnome* -cairo -xorg-x11-server-Xorg %end cheers, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
livecd-iso-to-disk works on Pungi CDs.
Welcome surprise - the livecd-iso-to-disk utility included in livecd-tools works well with pungi-created CDs, booting normally into anaconda. Now, I only have to figure out how to get anaconda to accept the repo that's in the CD/USB disk to complete a base install. cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
[Bug 453079] fonts-hebrew is deprecated and should be removed
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[Bug 453075] fonts-arabic is deprecated and should be removed
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[Bug 448078] [ml-IN] Font size problem with Meera
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: [ml-IN] Font size problem with Meera https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=448078 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-29 05:23 EST --- this bug is fixed in upstream malayalam-fonts-04.1.zip built it for rawhide -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 457021] New: Crash on startup, missing font
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rpms/smc-fonts/devel .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 smc-fonts.spec, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.2, 1.3
Author: pravins
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/smc-fonts/devel
In directory cvs-int.fedora.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28663
Modified Files:
.cvsignore smc-fonts.spec sources
Log Message:
* Tue Jul 29 2008 Pravin Satpute [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04.1-1
- new upstream release
- fontconfig rule for size adjustment of Meera is added
- two new fonts kalyani and anjalioldlipi
- bugfix 448078
Index: .cvsignore
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RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/smc-fonts/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
--- .cvsignore 16 Apr 2008 05:36:29 - 1.2
+++ .cvsignore 29 Jul 2008 09:14:48 - 1.3
@@ -1 +1,2 @@
malayalam-fonts-04.zip
+malayalam-fonts-04.1.zip
Index: smc-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/smc-fonts/devel/smc-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- smc-fonts.spec 16 Apr 2008 05:36:29 - 1.1
+++ smc-fonts.spec 29 Jul 2008 09:14:48 - 1.2
@@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
%define fontname smc
%define fontdir %{_datadir}/fonts/%{fontname}
-
+%define fontconfdir %{_sysconfdir}/fonts/conf.d
Name: %{fontname}-fonts
-Version: 04
-Release: 6%{?dist}
+Version: 04.1
+Release: 1%{?dist}
Summary: Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
Group: User Interface/X
License: GPLv3+ with exceptions and GPLv2+ with exceptions and GPLv2+
and GPLv2
@@ -59,17 +59,35 @@
The smc-fonts-suruma package contains fonts for the display of
traditional Malayalam Scripts.
+%package kalyani
+Summary: Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
+Group: User Interface/X
+License: GPLv3+ with exceptions
+%description kalyani
+The smc-fonts-suruma package contains fonts for the display of
+new Malayalam Scripts.
+
+%package anjalioldlipi
+Summary: Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
+Group: User Interface/X
+License: GPLv3+ with exceptions
+%description anjalioldlipi
+The smc-fonts-suruma package contains fonts for the display of
+traditional Malayalam Scripts.
+
%prep
-%setup -q -n malayalam-fonts-%{version}
+%setup -q -n malayalam-fonts-04
%build
echo Nothing to do in Build.
%install
-rm -fr %{buildroot}
+rm -rf %{buildroot}
install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{fontdir}
install -m 0644 -p *.ttf %{buildroot}%{fontdir}
+install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{fontconfdir}
+install -m 0644 -p $RPM_BUILD_DIR/malayalam-fonts-04/malayalam-fonts.conf
%{buildroot}%{fontconfdir}/90-%{fontname}.conf
%clean
rm -fr %{buildroot}
@@ -99,6 +117,16 @@
%{_bindir}/fc-cache -f %{fontdir} || :
fi
+%post kalyani
+if [ -x %{_bindir}/fc-cache ]; then
+%{_bindir}/fc-cache -f %{fontdir} || :
+fi
+
+%post anjalioldlipi
+if [ -x %{_bindir}/fc-cache ]; then
+%{_bindir}/fc-cache -f %{fontdir} || :
+fi
+
%postun dyuthi
if [ $1 = 0 ]; then
if [ -x %{_bindir}/fc-cache ]; then
@@ -134,6 +162,20 @@
fi
fi
+%postun kalyani
+if [ $1 = 0 ]; then
+ if [ -x %{_bindir}/fc-cache ]; then
+%{_bindir}/fc-cache -f %{fontdir} || :
+ fi
+fi
+
+%postun anjalioldlipi
+if [ $1 = 0 ]; then
+ if [ -x %{_bindir}/fc-cache ]; then
+%{_bindir}/fc-cache -f %{fontdir} || :
+ fi
+fi
+
#%{fontdir} is shared by following packages since they all are for malayalam
script only
%files dyuthi
%defattr(-,root,root,-)
@@ -144,6 +186,7 @@
%files meera
%defattr(-,root,root,-)
%doc *.txt
+%config(noreplace) %{fontconfdir}/90-%{fontname}.conf
%dir %{fontdir}
%{fontdir}/Meera*.ttf
@@ -165,8 +208,25 @@
%dir %{fontdir}
%{fontdir}/suruma*.ttf
+%files kalyani
+%defattr(-,root,root,-)
+%doc *.txt
+%dir %{fontdir}
+%{fontdir}/Kalyani*.ttf
+
+%files anjalioldlipi
+%defattr(-,root,root,-)
+%doc *.txt
+%dir %{fontdir}
+%{fontdir}/AnjaliOldLipi.ttf
%changelog
+* Tue Jul 29 2008 Pravin Satpute [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04.1-1
+- new upstream release
+- fontconfig rule for size adjustment of Meera is added
+- two new fonts kalyani and anjalioldlipi
+- bugfix 448078
+
* Tue Apr 15 2008 Pravin Satpute [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04-6
- corrected meera fonts description it is for traditional script
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/smc-fonts/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
--- sources 16 Apr 2008 05:36:29 - 1.2
+++ sources 29 Jul 2008 09:14:48 - 1.3
@@ -1 +1 @@
-a88a77e6b22ac077c729234c15671908 malayalam-fonts-04.zip
+492cb9ec6bf69d775e987c1ca06b4003 malayalam-fonts-04.1.zip
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[Bug 457062] Review Request: monafont - Japanese font for text arts
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[Bug 457062] Review Request: monafont - Japanese font for text arts
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[Bug 454148] Review Request: monafont - Japanese font for text arts
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[Bug 457021] Crash on startup, missing font
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[Bug 457094] New: Upstream fix for missing Romanian glyphs in Type 1 fonts is now available
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=457094 Summary: Upstream fix for missing Romanian glyphs in Type 1 fonts is now available Product: Fedora Version: 9 Platform: All URL: https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/index.php?23940 OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: freetype AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] QAContact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Description of problem, adapted from [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Tasks/Ro_fonts#The_Unicode_map_for_Type_1_fonts_needs_to_alias_U.2B021A.2FB_to_U.2B0162.2F3]: PostScript Type 1 (PS1) fonts don't have a native Unicode map. Contrary to popular belief, Type 1 fonts can store more than 256 glyphs in a pfb file, but these can only be addressed by AGL name. At most 256 glyphs can be accessed by a numeric index, for which various encodings schemes exist. A PS1 font can even specify its own 8-bit encoding scheme in the afm file; this is common practice for PS1 fonts targeting Central and Eastern Europe. The 8-bit encoding scheme is irrelevant however for Unicode applications. Unicode-enabled libraries, like freetype, define their own mapping from Unicode to AGL names, normally using the list published by Adobe. Adobe once decided that t with cedilla is not used in any language, so the AGL name Tcommaaccent, which is a glyph of T with a comma below, is actually mapped by Adobe to the Unicode code point U+0162, which is supposed to represent a t with cedilla. New OpenType fonts from Adobe also contain a glyph with the AGL name uni021A, which is visually identical to identical to Tcommaaccent. As you'd expect, uni021A is mapped to U+021A. Unfortunately, old PS1 fonts do not a have a uni021A in their pfb. Thus, using the Adobe-provide AGL to Unicode mapping for PS1 fonts, the code point U+021A remains unmapped. Fontconfig will therefore choose to borrow the glyph from a another font, even though the glyph is present in the pfb. This problem is illustrated by the following OpenOffice screenshot: [http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gaburici/oo/ro-font-test.png]. Practically all PostScript type 1 fonts that ship with Fedora suffer from this problem. Microsoft's Uniscribe automatically handles this issue by remapping U+21A/B to U+162/3 when the former glyphs are missing. Unfortunately, the Pango/fonconfig/freetype stack did't use to do this until 2008-07-27, so most new Romanian documents cannot be displayed with Type 1 fonts properly. The extra mapping has now been added in the CVS of freetype. A test SRPM is available here: [http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gaburici/freetype-2.3.8-0.3.20080729cvs.fc9.src.rpm]. Note that because it is built from CVS sources, it buildrequires libtool 2.2.4. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 457094] Upstream fix for missing Romanian glyphs in Type 1 fonts is now available
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[Bug 457021] Crash on startup, missing font
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[Bug 457021] Crash on startup, missing font
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[Bug 450709] xorg-x11-fonts-Type1 doesn't update cache files on upgrade
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[Bug 455995] No OpenType
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: No OpenType https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Resolution||NOTABUG --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-29 18:13 EST --- ok. Closing this bug now. Thanks for all the info, and please do reopen or file a new bug when you think we should look at switching to the OTF's. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Re: Intro
Thanks Mike, actually I am interested in programming but I have no idea whether my current level of programming skills would be of much help for the current developers involved. - Neo On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:54 AM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Neo Reeves wrote: Hello everyone, My name is Mohamed Sameeh and I am one of the Fedora Ambassadors for Maldives. I've been in the Linux World Since Redhat 9 and I've been in the field of IT for over 5 years now. During the course I have administered Linux Mail Servers, High Traffic Web Severs with MySQL and Oracle back ends, Linux NAT Firewall/Routers. I have a good undersatanding of Internet and Networking along with a handful of programming skills. I am CompTIA Network+ and CCNA certified. And I currently work for the government of Maldives. I have programming skills in PHP, Perl, C and Shell Scripts. Here are links to some of the scripts that I have written: A simple script I wrote to backup a NAT/Firewall - http://blog.fourthirty.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bacup.pl Another script I wrote to get a dump of my telephone companies phone records from their website - http://blog.fourthirty.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/edir.pl I am fairly good with Visual Basic too in case some programming for Mono is needed. I often program small scripts for the servers I manage to perform specific tasks. But I don't think that I am a pro at Programming or a master in System Administration. But I would like to offer all help I could to the Fedora Project as time and my knowledge permits me. I am eager to learn and is always working on ways to improve my various skills in the IT field. So if any of you think that I could be of assistance to you please let me know. It would be an honor to give my best input in it. Welcome Neo, is there a specific area you were interested in? Just the Infrastructure team in general or in programming, documentation, etc? -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -- .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Intro
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Neo Reeves wrote: Thanks Mike, actually I am interested in programming but I have no idea whether my current level of programming skills would be of much help for the current developers involved. Well I'd say start looking at bugs for some of your favorite apps and get to submitting patches. There's almost certainly some simple bugs out there just waiting so you can get comfortable with the process. Then you can challenge yourself with more difficult bugs. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Intro
Thnx, Will do. -Neo On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Mike McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Neo Reeves wrote: Thanks Mike, actually I am interested in programming but I have no idea whether my current level of programming skills would be of much help for the current developers involved. Well I'd say start looking at bugs for some of your favorite apps and get to submitting patches. There's almost certainly some simple bugs out there just waiting so you can get comfortable with the process. Then you can challenge yourself with more difficult bugs. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -- .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
EnableSendfile on koji
Can someone please check and let me know what the EnableSendfile setting is on the koji apache configs? Thanks! -- Matthew Galgoci Network Operations Red Hat, Inc 919.754.3700 x44155 ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Review Request
Bret has been working on a package for deployment in Fedora Infrastructure. Anyone care to fast track it? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/457060 -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: YUM security issues...
I was wondering if any changes have been made or are planned for MirrorManager (i.e. preventing mirrors from arbitrary grabbing parts of the address space). We're submitting the final version of our paper soon (the version that will appear in print) and I'd like to include any updates about this. Thanks, Justin On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Josh Bressers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 July 2008, Matt Domsch wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 01:52:26PM -0400, Josh Bressers wrote: That's a lot of IPs though. Can I request multiple /16s, or only one? As many as you like. And recall, such changes are made using your FAS credentials. Are these ever checked? Does say a mail get generated every time someone adds one of these? My fear would be that someone could blanket quite a large IP space without anyone noticing. Granted that would no doubt generate a huge volume of traffic, but if they're serving up a frozen repo, they probably won't be pushing all that much data. How many mirrors are doing this? 374 total Hosts 185 have at least 1 netblock entry 94 of these are private - don't serve the public wow, that's quite a few. I wasn't expecting numbers this high honestly. Does the mirror have to be part of the /16 to request it? no. Take for example Dell's mirrors. Netblock 143.166/16 is Dell US, but the mirror IPs are located inside the 10/8 private space. OK, so here is the problem the way I see it, signing the repository won't fix it. I'll try to explain this clearly, Justin can yell at me if I've gotten any of this wrong. So let's say Mallory (the bad guy) decides that he wants to host a malicious mirror and wait for a nasty security flaw. He sets up his mirror and even claims some IP subnets to serve. Bob and Alice are happily installing valid updates from him for some period of time. Since Mallory has claimed to serve a specific subnet, he has a rather impressive view of what Bob and Alice have installed. Now let's say there is a horrible security bug found in a mail server. Mallory knows for a fact that Bob and Alice both have it installed as he's been their mirror for a while. Mallory stops updating his mirror, so none of the users being served will get the mail server updates. Mallory also knows the IP address of the vulnerable clients and can easily break into their systems. So from what I understand MirrorManager will check on the mirrors to ensure they're not out of date. Mallory knows this and makes sure that when MirrorManager connects to his mirror, it lies and serves up current metadata. So here is the problem. The repodata was valid. The packages are signed. Even if we sign the repodata, this attack works. Being able to acquire an IP block simply makes this attack easier to do. It's still very possible that a bad mirror will wait for users to connect, serve up old content then use this knowledge to break into their system. What this problem boils down to, is we need a way for clients to ask MirrorManager what the current valid repo data is. Ideally we want the results to be signed in some manner so it can't be spoofed. Some thoughts I've had are: 1) Have MirrorManager use https and return some repo verification data. 2) Sign the repo data, and if it's older than X, don't use it (I don't like this solution, but it's probably the easiest, just push out a new signed repo file once a day, even if nothing changes.) 3) Always get repo data from fedoraproject.org (probably not practical due to resource issues) 4) use DNS, have the client query repodata sha1sum.repo.fedoraproject.org if the lookup fails, the repo is invalid. (this is really cheap from a resource standpoint, but hard to do technically) 5) ??? Thanks. -- JB ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
x86-8 is offline for a while
I'm getting some of the composer stuff ready for ticket #652 -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
[PATCH] kernel.spec: adding --with firmware --without vdso_install build options
Now that devel kernels rpms require the kernel-firmware rpm, it makes
sense to me that one should be able to build both of them at the
same time. So this patch adds the --with firmware build option
which will allow kernel-firmware rpms to built with kernel rpms.
This patch also adds the --without vdso_install build option
which stop the VDSO binaries from being installed. This cuts
down the overall build time especially when you build over NFS
like I do..
Signed-Off-By: Steve Dickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
diff -up SPECS/kernel.spec.orig SPECS/kernel.spec
--- SPECS/kernel.spec.orig 2008-07-29 09:07:48.0 -0400
+++ SPECS/kernel.spec 2008-07-29 11:44:39.0 -0400
@@ -75,11 +75,13 @@ Summary: The Linux kernel
# kernel-headers
%define with_headers %{?_without_headers: 0} %{?!_without_headers: 1}
# kernel-firmware
-%define with_firmware %{?_without_firmware: 0} %{?!_without_firmware: 1}
+%define with_firmware %{?_with_firmware: 1} %{?!_with_firmware: 0}
# kernel-debuginfo
%define with_debuginfo %{?_without_debuginfo: 0} %{?!_without_debuginfo: 1}
# kernel-bootwrapper (for creating zImages from kernel + initrd)
%define with_bootwrapper %{?_without_bootwrapper: 0} %{?!_without_bootwrapper:
1}
+# Want to build a the vsdo directories installed
+%define with_vdso_install %{?_without_vdso_install: 0}
%{?!_without_vdso_install: 1}
# don't build the kernel-doc package
%define with_doc 0
@@ -188,8 +190,10 @@ Summary: The Linux kernel
%define all_x86 i386 i586 i686
+%if %{with_vdso_install}
# These arches install vdso/ directories.
%define vdso_arches %{all_x86} x86_64 ppc ppc64
+%endif
# Overrides for generic default options
@@ -217,7 +221,6 @@ Summary: The Linux kernel
# only package docs noarch
%ifnarch noarch
%define with_doc 0
-%define with_firmware 0
%endif
# no need to build headers again for these arches,
@@ -231,6 +234,7 @@ Summary: The Linux kernel
%define with_up 0
%define with_headers 0
%define all_arch_configs kernel-%{version}-*.config
+%define with_firmware 1
%endif
# bootwrapper is only on ppc
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perfmon2 on fedora kernels
Hi, My apologies if this is going to the wrong mailing list. Is there an easy way to enable support for perfmon2 in the fedora 9 kernel(s)? Looks like the patch for perfmon2 available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/perfmon2/ is only useful if patching a vanilla kernel? Any help and/pointers will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. - Ted Sume ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: New support lists?
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 23:16 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really. This list worked great until Alexandre hijacked it. He needs to be booted for persisting in spewing all that OT shit into our mailboxes after being asked repeatedly to stop. I used to be ambivalent about the Free Software folks vs. the Open Source folks. I'd like to congratulate Alexandre for fucking that ambivalence. I now understand why the Free Software folks get laughed at so hard, so often. And my opinion of Red Hat is shit now, since they have a representative like Alexandre fronting for them. Here's a quote from the new CEO of RedHat, Jim Whitehurst: Red Hat appealed to me. Red Hat is different. By doing well as a company at Red Hat, we are doing good. Open source is a way to focus on the customer, letting us grow, succeed, and change the technology landscape...all while doing something that is fundamentally good. Fighting for open standards and open formats. These things will change society. I'm thrilled to be here. See the words Open Source? There's still hope. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar https://oar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 336-254-1339 - -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: change default language (localization)
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 18:57 +0200, David Hláčik wrote: i have installed Fedora 9 with default english language. Now i want to switch to Czech Language. I don't know if it's still the case, but it used to be quite a difficult task to do that afterwards. It was better to install with all the languages that you thought you might need selected. You might want to study the anaconda script for the install disc, and see what it does when you choose your own languages. At the logon screen, you can change languages. But that's a nuisance to do for multiple users. You can yum install system-config-language to set the default language for the system, then let individual users change away from your default, if they need to. But that's just part of your issue. How can i do that : 1) I want to have same packages like if i have choosed Czech Language during install From what I've seen, some multi-language supporting programs often install with all the languages, in the first place. That's why some of the packages are so big (e.g. Firefox). Others do have separate packages for different languages (e.g. KDE, OpenOffice). You could fetch a list and filter it for your language/country names in the packages. Or just manually install a few extra packages. Have a look at a Fedora mirror, and trawl through the everything collection of packages. If you're going to yum install openoffice.org-langpack-cs_CZ (for example), yum will install any updated packages, if there are any, automatically. At a quick glance, I can see three obvious packages: kde-i18n-Czech kde-l10n-Czech openoffice.org-langpack-cs_CZ You could also try a yum search against the same terms: yum search \*czech\* yum search \*cs_cz\* 2) also i have problem with Firefox and setting fonts for Czech - cs_CZ language . No one from list of font groups - even central european does not change fonts on Czech sites. Be sure to pick the languages that you can read in the web browser configuration, and list them in order of preference. Any website that uses content negotiation will go by what your browser says you can read. You'll still strike problems with badly authored websites (both in offering you other languages, and displaying mangled texts). There's no good solution for sorting out messed up websites. You might want to install all, or more of, the foreign fonts, too. I've done that in the past. Although I can't read most of them, it's better to see webpages in their proper characters, rather than as a pile of codes. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Missing Hardwae option
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:16 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Where in F9 is the equivalent of: System- Preferences-Hardware-Removable Drives and Media? Some of that is in the file management personal preferences, on the media tab. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: that old GNU/Linux argument
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:05 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Come on folks, what do you say? Is anyone willing to co-found a non-profit organization with me for this cause? I apel on your morality, ethics and a feeling on what is the Right Thing here. Just use your quantum intentionality and none of this happened! While you're at it, would you also add trolley cars to your intentionality so gas could be cheap again?? You physicists can do it! huge grin Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar https://oar.dev.java.net/ Verizon Cell # 336-254-1339 - -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:15 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: Reading the last couple emails from another thread on maybe new list or two, and to segregate the content to them was brought up and have couple new list names that might help make sense or to get the ball rolling? Start a new list for something different, don't re-purpose an existing list. i.e. Keep fedora-list as it always was (a general user support list), and create some other chit-chat / advocacy lists for those who want to continue an off-topic chat. Though, having said that. There's already plenty of other places that people can have their off-topics and rampant advocacy evangelising. Some of them have their very own websites. They could all piss off, over there, right now. But they won't, because they won't to romp in and change everyone else's opinion to their own. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Misunderstanding GPL's terms and conditions as restrictions
On Jul 29, 2008, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, RSAREF couldn't have been modified. It had restricted distribution and everyone had to get their own copy. http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.misc.discuss/browse_thread/thread/ecc4d4ff360019e/b3dbb6f89144b706?lnk=stq=gnu.misc.discuss+ripem#b3dbb6f89144b706 http://www.nic.funet.fi/index/crypt/cryptography/rpem/ripem/ http://www.nic.funet.fi/index/crypt/cryptography/rpem/ripem/README http://www.nic.funet.fi/index/crypt/cryptography/rpem/ripem/rsaref/ There is indeed a lot of conflicting information out there, and the files above are older than the discussion, but the point stands that some piece of software could only be distributed under the GPL, and by people who had accepted a patent license that prevented them from doing just that, regardless of any copyright license incompatibilities. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist [EMAIL PROTECTED], gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! = http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED], gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Unofficial Fedora FAQ Updated for Fedora 9
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Max Kanat-Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there Fedora land! The Unofficial Fedora FAQ has been updated for Fedora 9! http://www.fedorafaq.org/ For this update, I reviewed and revised almost every single question in the FAQ to be up-to-date and even simpler than before. Of course the new FAQ contains an updated yum configuration, and also working Java plugin instructions, but it also has a whole bunch of other small improvements! The Fedora 8 FAQ is still available at: http://www.fedorafaq.org/f8/ In other news, I'd really like somebody who's willing to help me answer incoming email for the FAQ. I really like being able to get back to everybody who emails me, but I do a lot of different things, and having somebody else who could handle that email would be great. Eventually this would probably evolve into helping me edit and update the FAQ. If you're interested, send me a mail with the subject FAQ Assistance. The guidelines for contributing to the FAQ are here: http://www.fedorafaq.org/contribute/ As always, translations are welcome! If you would like to translate the FAQ, send me an email with FAQ Translation in the subject line and tell me what language you'd like to translate it to. I hope that you all enjoy this update of the FedoraFAQ, and my thanks to everybody in the Fedora community who keep on making each release so much better than the last. :-) -Max Max: Thanks for the update. It looks really clean and has great information. One minor typo that I spotted on Q. 7's answer: Modern version of Linux use a cool new type should be Modern versions Best Regards, John Babich Volunteer, Fedora Project -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: change default language (localization)
David Hláčik wrote: Hello all, i have installed Fedora 9 with default english language. Now i want to switch to Czech Language. How can i do that : To have Czech as the default language you can simply edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n to change it to cs_CZ.UTF-8. The GUI for both KDE and GNOME would be then switched after a reboot. Is that what you are after? Ed 1) I want to have same packages like if i have choosed Czech Language during install 2) also i have problem with Firefox and setting fonts for Czech - cs_CZ language . No one from list of font groups - even central european does not change fonts on Czech sites. Thanks in advance! David -- Humor in the Court: Q: What is your relationship with the plaintiff? A: She is my daughter. Q: Was she your daughter on February 13, 1979? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: that old GNU/Linux argument
On Jul 29, 2008, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you ever come to the US close to the border with Mexico, I went to San Diego some 9 years ago, to speak at a Usenix conference. Is that the location you're speaking of? I would invite to a couple of beers :) I'd pass the beer, but I'd enjoy the company :-) Thanks, I might seem like a bad person, because I question many things. Questioning is actually a good trait, but some people indeed mistake that for a bad one. Many people do not like me because they say that I am a rebel without a cause. They must have some hidden reason to put such a label on you :-) I am sorry but I happen to like the Linux name very much. At school they call me the Linux Man/Linux Dude. Hey, people do that to me, too. I promptly correct that, and if I get a blank stare, I know I have work to do :-) IT will be very hard to convince them to call me GNU/Linux man. You could try, but even if you don't succeed, it would be very important that *you* used it, because you're a role model to them. I believe Les has a very strong point when he wrote: GNU is a radical political movement. Putting the name next to Linux makes it seem as though Linus himself endorses the movement. But that's rather dishonest, given that Linus has always stayed away from such political zealotry. So I added a +1) and sent it in. So it would be dishonest to retain the name of the system that Linus chose to use along with his kernel because of imaginary concerns that he himself waved away when he said he didn't care if it was called GNU/Linux, but it's honest to rename it to something that makes it harder for the software to achieve its goal, and denies credit to its authors while at that? Double standards? If Linus was concerned about having the GNU name next to Linux, he wouldn't have oked the name. If he was concerned about distancing himself from GNU, he might as well have kept a distance from all that GNU software. That argument doesn't hold even ice, let alone water :-) Similarly I agree with many things from the FSF, I do believe in the ideas that software be free and made available to all. What I do not believe is in the approach that they take. I also do not agree to certain things about the Free and Open Source licenses. We can get back to that one or two months from now :-) Please Cc: me explicitly when you want to start talking about these.a It creates a great deal of confusion that many users on this list and creators of softwares are not excited about dealing with the FSF. The confusion is created mostly by spreaders of FUD. The best way to deal with it is to educate people as to the facts, which ends up exposing and denouncing the FUD. But you have opened my eyes in some ways. While I do not agree with you 100% of the way, I have learned many things that I did not know before :) Good. (part of the) mission accomplished :-) Best, -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist [EMAIL PROTECTED], gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! = http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED], gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy
On Jul 29, 2008, Antonio Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is wrong with the Fedora kernel? It contains non-Free Software. Is it not released under the GPL, which ensures that the software that is being released is free? Unfortunately, no. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450492 See all that stuff in the kernel-firmware package in rawhide? Only three of those files are Free Software. All the rest is blatantly non-Free, some of which because the license does not permit modification, all of which because source code is missing, even though some of those files are under the GPL, so distributing them without source is not permitted. And they still haven't moved all of the non-Free stuff into that package, so the license tag of the kernel packages is still wrong in rawhide. And maintainers of some of the drivers that contain this non-Free Software refuse to let it move out, because it would be too inconvenient. And the move is being pushed as a means to enable even more non-Free Software to be added, either directly into the kernel source tarball, or as external dependencies. Great stuff, huh? Again, Doesn't the GPL umbrella protect users from this kind of behavior? It's supposed to, and it takes only one copyright holder to enforce the terms of the GPL against infringers. But it's a situation in which nobody would risk throwing the first rock. Picture one of those movie scenes in which people are pointing guns at each other's heads :-) If this same GPL that is such veneered and loved by the FSF and others and it cannot protect its users, then its useless :( The license can't protect the users, it's just a tool that copyright holders can use to do that if they feel inclined to do so. Many Linux leaders unfortunately don't care about protecting users, so they tolerate this stuff, and even come up with legal excuses to try to defend this abomination. I see where you are coming from, but by looking at the things a little better, I would be shortchanged if I ran your kernel-libre, from the sites that you did not mention by the way I thought I'd mentioned it here already, but maybe it was on fedora-devel only. Anyhow... What do you think you'd miss? I can see the connection, but I do not believe that those kernels there support all the drivers and modules that are not free according to your specifiations. The purpose of kernel-libre is precisely to remove the non-Free Software, so you're right, a couple of dozen rare modules that can't be used in freedom become non-functional and are thus removed from kernel-libre. Give it a try when you get a chance and let me know how it goes. You don't have to believe me any more than you'd believe the anti-freedom FUD spreaders. You can see for yourself. If I ask you to build a true GNU/Linux based on Fedora, you have it and it is called BLAG. *And* BLAG can actually distribute a lot of the Free Software that Fedora prefers to steer clear from. *And* BLAG gives equal mention to Linux And GNU. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist [EMAIL PROTECTED], gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! = http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED], gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Entering Interactive startup
Hi If I remember right, just after the boot, there is a message Press 'I' for interactive startup, or something similar to this. Regards Marcelo Dave Burns wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why would you want an interactive startup? you can enable and disable services once you get in! a) service conflict causes machine to crash b) service conflict requires me to wait 5 minutes for something to time out. Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: change default language (localization)
* Ed Greshko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080729 09:52]: David Hláčik wrote: Hello all, i have installed Fedora 9 with default english language. Now i want to switch to Czech Language. How can i do that : To have Czech as the default language you can simply edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n to change it to cs_CZ.UTF-8. The GUI for both KDE and GNOME would be then switched after a reboot. Is that what you are after? He also wants the language packages required for this. system-config-language appears to provide a facility to do this (i.e. it tells me it's talking to yum to download the right packages) but I've not yet been able to verify it does the right thing. I'm still testing to see if this is the way to go. /Anders -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: change default language (localization)
Anders Karlsson wrote: * Ed Greshko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080729 09:52]: David Hláčik wrote: Hello all, i have installed Fedora 9 with default english language. Now i want to switch to Czech Language. How can i do that : To have Czech as the default language you can simply edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n to change it to cs_CZ.UTF-8. The GUI for both KDE and GNOME would be then switched after a reboot. Is that what you are after? He also wants the language packages required for this. system-config-language appears to provide a facility to do this (i.e. it tells me it's talking to yum to download the right packages) but I've not yet been able to verify it does the right thing. I'm still testing to see if this is the way to go. That's good that you're doing that. I just realized that was the second half of his question and I just was about to check it out since I realized I didn't know how to do it in F9. :-( I tend to enable all languages at install. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: change default language (localization)
* Ed Greshko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080729 10:48]: Anders Karlsson wrote: * Ed Greshko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080729 09:52]: David Hláčik wrote: Hello all, i have installed Fedora 9 with default english language. Now i want to switch to Czech Language. How can i do that : To have Czech as the default language you can simply edit /etc/sysconfig/i18n to change it to cs_CZ.UTF-8. The GUI for both KDE and GNOME would be then switched after a reboot. Is that what you are after? He also wants the language packages required for this. system-config-language appears to provide a facility to do this (i.e. it tells me it's talking to yum to download the right packages) but I've not yet been able to verify it does the right thing. I'm still testing to see if this is the way to go. That's good that you're doing that. I just realized that was the second half of his question and I just was about to check it out since I realized I didn't know how to do it in F9. :-( I tend to enable all languages at install. Thanks. I'm not the devil in disguise as some would like to make me out to be. system-config-language is the way to go, and you can then pick your language from the GDM screen. It does not install the language packs for Open Office, KDE or some of the other bits however, so that becomes a manual step as far as I can see. I've flipped my system over in to swedish just to test this, and all of Gnome plays ball anyway. :) /Anders -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy
*And* BLAG can actually distribute a lot of the Free Software that Fedora prefers to steer clear from. *And* BLAG gives equal mention to Linux And GNU. So why don't you set up blag-list somewhere ? I don't see ubuntu people trolling this list, so why should you be doing so ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
And my opinion of Red Hat is shit now, since they have a representative like Alexandre fronting for them. Red Hat doesn't. Alexandra just persists in abusing his redhat.com address to advertise his own BLAG distribution in the wrong place. He has been asked not to do that, and I imagine stronger persuasion to take up such things using his personal email elsewhere will occur if he doesn't. Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
I used to be ambivalent about the Free Software folks vs. the Open Source folks. I'd like to congratulate Alexandre for fucking that ambivalence. I now understand why the Free Software folks get laughed at so hard, so often. I'll make one other comment here. Most 'Free Software' people I know (and I count myself as one) share your view of GNU/Alexandre and wish quite frankly he was a microsoft fanboy instead as he'd do more good for Free and Open Source software that way. Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: that old GNU/Linux argument
On Monday 28 July 2008 19:06, Antonio Olivares wrote: Hey, how about me starting a quest here? :-) When you say information above, you actually mean classical information, as opposed to quantum information, which does not possess the property of copying (this famous property is called the no-cloning theorem). quantum as opposed to classical, I do not see what is the connection? Ok, the theorem states that quantum information cannot be cloned (ie. copied) as the classical one can. This in the sense that if you try to make an identical copy of some quantum information, you destroy the original in the process. Some people tend to describe this as quantum teleportation of information --- it dissapears here, it appears there. Now, in the part that I quoted, Gordon Messmer was talking about copying information. I started nitpicking (quite unjustifiedly), and emphasized that he should be talking about information of classical type, not information in general (as this would incorrectly include the quantum case). While technically correct, this comment of mine was just nitpicking beyond any sanity. In the following paragraphs of that post, I used it to draw a silent parallel to the whole Linux vs GNU/Linux discussion. // Don't worry, I believe that 99.99% of people on this planet know absolutely nothing about quantum information --- and of course I was not serious about trying to educate anyone on this, nor to start a QSJ (Quest for Social Justice) or a thread regarding it. // But really, was it really neccessary to include irony/irony tags at the beginning and the end of my post? I thought it would be obvious... ;-) I do not see how not using GNU/Linux is a social injustice. I disagree. Neither do I, but Alexandre is talking about it in a number of posts. I just wanted to tag along and define a YASI (Yet Another Social Injustice) by turning attention to classical vs. quantum information. ;-) And then try to engage in a completely analogous discussion that has been here in this thread so far. The point was to show how stupid such quests are in general, and the GNU/Linux one in particular. ;-) Can your thread far exceed this one? I will not dare you to do it, but I think it is not needed. If you decide to create it, may people might ignore it and/or *block it*. This does not help either cause. Precisely! Tell that to Alexandre and other pro-GNU vocals. That is actually my very point. Btw, if you (or anyone) try hard enough to disprove my quest for changing the word information into classical/information everywhere it appears, I guarantee that together we can make a thread big beyond any imagination. :-) It's simple --- I say that the switch to classical/information should be made, because it is social injustice not to; than you reply that it should not be; then I reply that it should, and present some arguments, quote some papers etc.; then you disagree, and present counter-arguments; but I am tough opponent, and I disprove your arguments, and present new ones; but you are also tough and you invent new arguments --- and so on, I believe you get the picture... ;-) We could easily aim to get into the Guinnes Book of Records for the insanely high number of posts arguing that way. :-) P.S. I certainly hope that everyone gets the true point of this post, because otherwise... ;-) You missed to see this disclaimer, really? ;-) Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Do I get a copy of my mail to fedora-list?
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 09:19 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 13:48 +1000, Simon Slater wrote: On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 18:57 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I set up a Search Folder in Evolution to show my posts in context with the rest of the thread. Works fine. Could you elaborate on that? It's nothing magical. Mail clients that support search folders (what used to be called virtual folders in Evo) allow you to define search criteria for the messages to include. What I do is define a Fedora search folder with the criteria: Recipients - contains - fedora-list@redhat.com OR Mailing list - is - fedora-list@redhat.com PLUS * Search Folder Sources: Specific folders: imap:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:993[Gmail]/Sent Mail imap:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:993/Fedora Obviously some of this depends on my own Gmail setup, since I use Gmail to receive this list and have a Gmail filter to label the traffic as Fedora. The folder definitions are just the result of selecting the appropriate (real) folders using the Add button. Several things here could probably be changed, e.g. use the Mailing List criterion instead of Recipients, include threads (I don't because I don't think it matters in this case) and maybe other stuff, such as not the thread about GNU/Linux :-) I'm sure something similar could be done in Thunderbird. poc Thanks. What I've used in Evo Search folders is fairly basic so far. Now I want to explore some more of Evo's features to make things easier. This will help. -- Regards, Simon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: updating my getting started with QEMU under fedora howto
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Axel Thimm wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:06:24PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: i was going to take what i thought was a couple minutes and update my writeup on QEMU under fedora: http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/QEMU for fedora 9 but, apparently, it's not going to be a simple s/8/9/g. there doesn't appear to be a (livna) kqemu-kmdl package anymore; instead, it's kmod-kqemu. then there's this akmod-kqemu package there as well, which i've never seen before. i'm sure it won't take long to sort out the new packages, but if this has already been written up somewhere for f9, i'd be fine with that. otherwise, i'll do it myself. The URL above uses ATrpms' kmdl packages for Fedora 8 and indeed the recipe for Fedora 9 would be s/8/9/g. ah, i had completely forgotten that those were ATrpms packages, axel. i'll review and decide which packages to use for the rewrite. thanks. rday p.s. refresh my memory, axel, if you would -- are your AT packages compatible with livna packages? would there be any difference in which qemu packages i used that aren't available in the stock fedora repo? -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: stop kernel messages from splashing on the console
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 09:54:21AM +0100, Christopher Mocock wrote: Vikram Goyal wrote: Hello, I am getting these kernel messages on the consoles which I want to avoid as many times I have to login through them as the system runs in level 3. I have edited the /etc/syslog.conf as: I believe the relevant config file is now /etc/rsyslog.conf although I don't know why /etc/syslog.conf still exists. Might be worth a try. Regards, Sorry I forgot to mention. The system is RHEL5. Thanks! -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: updating my getting started with QEMU under fedora howto
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 06:11:42AM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Axel Thimm wrote: p.s. refresh my memory, axel, if you would -- are your AT packages compatible with livna packages? It often depends on the livna packager. Suffice it to say that I've been a mirror for livna for several years now, so actually my intentions were to be compatible. But there are many cases were this didn't happen. would there be any difference in which qemu packages i used that aren't available in the stock fedora repo? The packages at ATrpms are not conflicting with the stock repo or replacing anything. They are just accelerating qemu. E.g. you will need the Fedora stock qemu to get started anyway, and you can (optionally) add kqemu kmdls to speed it up. http://bellard.org/qemu/kqemu-tech.html -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net pgpWCnipKg4Rl.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing
2008/7/25 Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Craig White wrote: how can I enable fedora-testing and get these AND ONLY these packages? Perhaps something like this would work? yum --enablerepo updates-testing groupupdate 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)' Is there a place we can find all the groups that Fedoras rpm has? -- Martín Marqués select 'martin.marques' || '@' || 'gmail.com' DBA, Programador, Administrador -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: stop kernel messages from splashing on the console
* Vikram Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080729 12:21]: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 09:54:21AM +0100, Christopher Mocock wrote: Vikram Goyal wrote: Hello, I am getting these kernel messages on the consoles which I want to avoid as many times I have to login through them as the system runs in level 3. I have edited the /etc/syslog.conf as: I believe the relevant config file is now /etc/rsyslog.conf although I don't know why /etc/syslog.conf still exists. Might be worth a try. Regards, Sorry I forgot to mention. The system is RHEL5. Which update, and are you using the syslog package, or rsyslog? If you're still running sysklogd, have a look at man 8 klogd and /etc/sysconfig/syslog. You can twiddle klogd with the '-c' flag. With rsyslog, it's man 8 rklogd and /etc/sysconfig/rsyslog HTH, /Anders -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
firefox ignores fonts for Central European Sites? (Czech, Slovak)
Hello, i am facing problem with fonts under Firefox. So far 1) If i change default fonts in Fonts for Western it works great ... example : http://www.cnn.com/ 2) If i change default fonts in Fonts for Central European it does not work at all ... example : www.seznam.cz , www.idnes.cz - and yes, i have checkbox to allow sites to select their own fonts disable I noticed in step 2) That firefox will use for Czech Languages, fonts set for system - in gnome - look and feel - apperace : fonts Application So it is not possible at all to change fonts for Central European = Czech Language for me? Thanks in advance! David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 00:21:22 Ed Greshko wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 July 2008 23:08:15 Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 22:04 +0200, Anders Karlsson wrote: * Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080728 21:48]: On Monday 28 July 2008 20:15:54 Mike Chambers wrote: [snip] Would this help make things better? In theory, yes. In practice, not unless there is moderator support for making sure that non-support threads go to the relevant list. I'm sure we could manage that. :) /Anders I don't think we could handle that. This split is a really bad idea. For some of us it is an excellent idea Yes it is an excellent idea. But, sadly, it probably won't work since it relies on reasonable humans to understand and be willing and able to separate their posts among the newly created lists. Or a moderator willing to kick off anyone who refuses to comply Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 07:54 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote: Is there a place we can find all the groups that Fedoras rpm has? Do you mean yum grouplist? If so, you might also want to try: yum grouplist groupname -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Unofficial Fedora FAQ Updated for Fedora 9
Hi, thank you for your great effort. Please correct this entry: http://www.fedorafaq.org/#ntfs ntfs is now supported out of the box and automatically mounted in /media. Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Unofficial Fedora FAQ Updated for Fedora 9
Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, thank you for your great effort. Please correct this entry: http://www.fedorafaq.org/#ntfs ntfs is now supported out of the box and automatically mounted in /media. Cheers, Valent. Did you consider letting the author of that FAQ know about that needed change instead of this list? http://www.fedorafaq.org/contribute/ -- Stephen Berg Systems Administrator NRL Code: 7321 Office: 228-688-5738 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: firefox ignores fonts for Central European Sites? (Czech, Slovak)
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 13:14 +0200, David Hláčik wrote: i am facing problem with fonts under Firefox. So far 1) If i change default fonts in Fonts for Western it works great ... example : http://www.cnn.com/ 2) If i change default fonts in Fonts for Central European it does not work at all ... example : www.seznam.cz , www.idnes.cz - and yes, i have checkbox to allow sites to select their own fonts disable http://www.seznam.cz/ uses UTF-8 http://www.idnes.cz/ says it's windows-1250 in the homepage's HTML, and manual prodding about agrees, but my Firefox thinks that it's UTF-8. lynx --head http://www.idnes.cz/ shows me that the HTTP headers don't say anything about the encoding. So I don't know where Firefox is getting it's UTF-8 idea from. Firefox should let you pick fonts to be used for different regions, if the page uses encodings that those regions use. But for UTF-8 encoded text, you can think of that as world-wide, or non-regional. Though Firefox seems to be a law unto itself as to how it deals with fonts. I changed the central european fonts, but not western, and just about everything changed. I could guess that Firefox also looks at country top-level-domain codes in its font guessing, too. I noticed in step 2) That firefox will use for Czech Languages, fonts set for system - in gnome - look and feel - apperace : fonts Application I notice that will change some fonts Firefox uses, but not all. Even though I, too, had set Firefox not to use fonts as set by the webpages. So it is not possible at all to change fonts for Central European = Czech Language for me? Are you picking a font that can be used for your language? NB: I can't read Czech, so I'm just going by appearances and obvious errors in page rendering. I am quite familiar with webpage authoring, serving, and character encoding issues to do with it, and regularly find Firefox behaves oddly. Be careful about picking sans-serif fonts to use as the sans font, and vice versa. Firefox can be even more odd if you try to go against it's ideas of what types of fonts it should use. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: eeedora 2.0 ?
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Clint Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Valent Turkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, are there anybody interested in working on Eeedora? As I can see by eeedora page (custom Fedora version for Asus eee) [1] it looks like it is dead in the water (please corect me if I'm wrong). I would put al of my talents to work on this project but I'm not a coder so please point me in the right direction. I see Ubuntu doing a much [2] more so I'm wandering it there is not engough Fedorans using Asus eeePC or are they just happy with Xandros or Ubuntu [2] on their Asus eees? [1] http://eeedora.complexvalues.com/ [1b] http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:eeedora [2] http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile I've been working on a kickstart for the EEEPC, I'm just about finished. Things are working almost perfectly. I have it working as a LiveCD right now. Check out the latest ks file -- http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/f9eeepc.ks Cheers, Clint -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list Great script! -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: eeedora 2.0 ?
What if we are interested in Eeedora? I am interested in contributing to Eeedora. what are the fields in which I can contribute. Please reply with sufficient links. adios KSH SHRM People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care... On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Valent Turkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Clint Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Valent Turkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, are there anybody interested in working on Eeedora? As I can see by eeedora page (custom Fedora version for Asus eee) [1] it looks like it is dead in the water (please corect me if I'm wrong). I would put al of my talents to work on this project but I'm not a coder so please point me in the right direction. I see Ubuntu doing a much [2] more so I'm wandering it there is not engough Fedorans using Asus eeePC or are they just happy with Xandros or Ubuntu [2] on their Asus eees? [1] http://eeedora.complexvalues.com/ [1b] http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:eeedora [2] http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile I've been working on a kickstart for the EEEPC, I'm just about finished. Things are working almost perfectly. I have it working as a LiveCD right now. Check out the latest ks file -- http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/f9eeepc.ks Cheers, Clint -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list Great script! -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing
2008/7/29 Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 07:54 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote: Is there a place we can find all the groups that Fedoras rpm has? Do you mean yum grouplist? If so, you might also want to try: yum grouplist groupname How lazy of me. :-( Thanks. -- Martín Marqués select 'martin.marques' || '@' || 'gmail.com' DBA, Programador, Administrador -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
Mike Chambers wrote: Hi all, Reading the last couple emails from another thread on maybe new list or two, and to segregate the content to them was brought up and have couple new list names that might help make sense or to get the ball rolling? i really do not see any advantage in changing way list are now. what would be nice is to run a converter that will change all 'text/html' and 'base 64' emails to 'text/plain'. give consideration to subscribers who are on pots and limited disk storage. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 07:18:26 am Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2008 00:21:22 Ed Greshko wrote: snip Yes it is an excellent idea. But, sadly, it probably won't work since it relies on reasonable humans to understand and be willing and able to separate their posts among the newly created lists. Or a moderator willing to kick off anyone who refuses to comply Anne Given the events of the past 17 days, I'd think that a proctologist would be a better choice. -- cmg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 cant automount usb drives
Vassilios Kotoulas wrote: hi, after upgrading from f7 to f9 I cant automount my usb disk. I use gnome, hal is running and when I switch the disk on I see the usual syslog entries. I can also see the drive with fdisk -l. I configurated the authorizations to my user is allowed to mount drives. I can mount the drive as root from command line. selinux is set to permissive. what did I forget? I just have the same problem: none of my usb sticks will mount automatically on Fedora 9, but they will on fedora 7 and 8! Now I found out that Dolphin (Applications Menu / System Tools) does not have any problems with at least one memory stick : It is correctly listed and can be mounted! Maybe it is a Nautilus / Gnome problem ... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
sandy fonts on fedora 9
Do not know why - but i still have feeling that fonts on Fedora 9 are little sandy . I just switched from Windows Vista, where fonts antialiasing looks much better. I am using Liberation Sans fonts .. and 1) When i try Best Shape in gnome font config - they are too blur 2) When i try LCD subpixel they are too thick and not nice I have ASUS F3SR notebook with 15.4 LCD screen - and i am using X server from fedora 8 - as i have ATI Card and there are no ati drivers for fedora 9 currently - so i found on fedora forums steps to downgrade to Fedora 8 X server Thanks in advance! David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: sandy fonts on fedora 9
David Hlác(ik wrote: Do not know why - but i still have feeling that fonts on Fedora 9 are little sandy . try 'serif'. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Missing Hardwae option
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:28 +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:16 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Where in F9 is the equivalent of: System- Preferences-Hardware-Removable Drives and Media? Some of that is in the file management personal preferences, on the media tab. So it is, but it is more restrictive than the previous approach where you could type in the program you wanted to access the media. -- === In the future, you're going to get computers as prizes in breakfast cereals. You'll throw them out because your house will be littered with them. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Missing Hardwae option
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:28 +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:16 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Where in F9 is the equivalent of: System- Preferences-Hardware-Removable Drives and Media? Some of that is in the file management personal preferences, on the media tab. This is really an addendum to my previous message. What if you wanted to have totem process audio CDs or xine do DVDs. How would you do that? -- === A compliment is something like a kiss through a veil. -- Victor Hugo === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
Hi Anne et al; 2¢ On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 12:18 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2008 00:21:22 Ed Greshko wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 28 July 2008 23:08:15 Aaron Konstam wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 22:04 +0200, Anders Karlsson wrote: * Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080728 21:48]: On Monday 28 July 2008 20:15:54 Mike Chambers wrote: [snip] Would this help make things better? In theory, yes. In practice, not unless there is moderator support for making sure that non-support threads go to the relevant list. I'm sure we could manage that. :) /Anders I don't think we could handle that. This split is a really bad idea. For some of us it is an excellent idea Yes it is an excellent idea. But, sadly, it probably won't work since it relies on reasonable humans to understand and be willing and able to separate their posts among the newly created lists. Or a moderator willing to kick off anyone who refuses to comply Anne I, for one, would miss the occasional Off Topic thread. I have had my interest peaked and had late night working re-invigorated by this list's incidental forays into language usage, international discussions on how things are done elsewhere, teasing, and even the odd frustrated rant. I believe that kind of communications builds a bit of a community that one can count on when one is really in need of OS or Computer help. I know I have come to recognize and respect a good many names on this list. For what it is worth, I have noticed that the OT increases proportionally from the time when the latest version of Fedora has been released. Perhaps that reflects the decline in the number of real problems which need to be fixed and leaves members free to let their minds wander. Our local LUG had a problem with our mailing list being turned into an anti-social set of diatribes by a couple of members who were no more than trolls. In order to avoid them, we set up a second moderated list for 'tech' subjects only. We ended up with long debates over the whether a question belonged on the 'social' list or the 'tech' list. Slowly everyone drifted away from both; with only a few remaining members using the LUG IRC. I don't know what the answer for the current pointless thread(s) is other than to ignore them for the time being, complain a bit, and hope that other members will stop feeding the troll. But, my experience says setting up an additional mailing list doesn't really solve much and can be harmful to a nice little community of interests. -- Regards Bill; Fedora 9, Gnome 2.22.3 Evo.2.22.3.1, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: sandy fonts on fedora 9
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:39 +0200, David Hláčik wrote: Do not know why - but i still have feeling that fonts on Fedora 9 are little sandy . I just switched from Windows Vista, where fonts antialiasing looks much better. I am using Liberation Sans fonts .. and 1) When i try Best Shape in gnome font config - they are too blur 2) When i try LCD subpixel they are too thick and not nice Try tweaking the font size slightly. LCDs aren't as good as CRTs for displaying fonts at some small sizes. A small change can make the difference between a font being drawn chunkily, trying to use one and a bit pixels, to using whole pixels. I have ASUS F3SR notebook with 15.4 LCD screen - and i am using X server from fedora 8 Mine's an Asus PRO31J series, F3JC mainboard, laptop. With the same size screen, using Fedora 9. At this stage, I've not installed the vendor NVidia drivers, just going along with the ones supplied with the distribution. Previously I've had Fedora 7 with it, using both Fedora and vendor supplied drivers, and it looked just as good. It also had Vista, and I can't say that Vista was really any better. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: sandy fonts on fedora 9
Which font resolution in gnome appearance settings are you using? D. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:39 +0200, David Hláčik wrote: Do not know why - but i still have feeling that fonts on Fedora 9 are little sandy . I just switched from Windows Vista, where fonts antialiasing looks much better. I am using Liberation Sans fonts .. and 1) When i try Best Shape in gnome font config - they are too blur 2) When i try LCD subpixel they are too thick and not nice Try tweaking the font size slightly. LCDs aren't as good as CRTs for displaying fonts at some small sizes. A small change can make the difference between a font being drawn chunkily, trying to use one and a bit pixels, to using whole pixels. I have ASUS F3SR notebook with 15.4 LCD screen - and i am using X server from fedora 8 Mine's an Asus PRO31J series, F3JC mainboard, laptop. With the same size screen, using Fedora 9. At this stage, I've not installed the vendor NVidia drivers, just going along with the ones supplied with the distribution. Previously I've had Fedora 7 with it, using both Fedora and vendor supplied drivers, and it looked just as good. It also had Vista, and I can't say that Vista was really any better. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
SELinux and mysqld
When I start up mysql I receive the following alert from SELinux: SELinux is preventing mysqld (mysqld_t) search to ./gps (user_home_dir_t). I did some searching around and came across a possible solution. yum -y install selinux-policy-targeted-sources vi /etc/selinux/targeted/src/policy/domains/misc/local.te add the following rules: allow mysqld_t user_home_dir_t read; Then: cd /etc/selinux/targeted/src/policy/ make reload Before I do this I wanted to see If I am adding the correct rule? Can anyone tell me if this is the right way to resolve the issue? TIA, Greg Sieranski -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Missing Hardwae option
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 10:04 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: What if you wanted to have totem process audio CDs or xine do DVDs. How would you do that? I'm feeling a case of deja vu, I answered this about a week or so ago: From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Subject:Re: Fedora9 DVD autoplay Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:35:59 +0930 On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 08:43 +0200, Federico Marziali wrote: he problem is that, within this window, you can choose which programs to use for autoplay *only* from a predefined list. For instance for Audio CD I can choose between Totem, Rhythmbox, Do Nothing, and Open Folder. There is no Custom Use-your-command-here or other, which is very strange (a bug???). Now, I can't possibly believe that this list of 4 choices is hard coded (can it be? o_O), but I could not find where is the corresponding configuration file. I added some information to this file, and they were added to the drop-down list: ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list The file also appears to list entries for files that I've right-clicked, and added to the open-with list in the file properties. Some programs add themselves to the list of options, like VLC adds itself in the appropriate places. But not all multi-media applications add themselves to the list. How did I find the right file? Changed some preferences, then went looking for a configuration file that had a very recent modification date. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 cant automount usb drives
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:17 +0200, Herbert Gasiorowski wrote: Vassilios Kotoulas wrote: hi, after upgrading from f7 to f9 I cant automount my usb disk. I use gnome, hal is running and when I switch the disk on I see the usual syslog entries. I can also see the drive with fdisk -l. I configurated the authorizations to my user is allowed to mount drives. I can mount the drive as root from command line. selinux is set to permissive. what did I forget? I just have the same problem: none of my usb sticks will mount automatically on Fedora 9, but they will on fedora 7 and 8! Now I found out that Dolphin (Applications Menu / System Tools) does not have any problems with at least one memory stick : It is correctly listed and can be mounted! Maybe it is a Nautilus / Gnome problem ... This will not help you much but my usb stick mounts and even opens a nautilus window. This goes along with my complaint about the missing functionality of System-Preferences-Hardware that used to allow you to control that behavior. -- === Incumbent, n.: Person of liveliest interest to the outcumbents. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Missing Hardwae option
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 23:52 +0930, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 10:04 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: What if you wanted to have totem process audio CDs or xine do DVDs. How would you do that? I'm feeling a case of deja vu, I answered this about a week or so ago: From: Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: Fedora9 DVD autoplay Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:35:59 +0930 On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 08:43 +0200, Federico Marziali wrote: he problem is that, within this window, you can choose which programs to use for autoplay *only* from a predefined list. For instance for Audio CD I can choose between Totem, Rhythmbox, Do Nothing, and Open Folder. There is no Custom Use-your-command-here or other, which is very strange (a bug???). Now, I can't possibly believe that this list of 4 choices is hard coded (can it be? o_O), but I could not find where is the corresponding configuration file. I added some information to this file, and they were added to the drop-down list: ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list The file also appears to list entries for files that I've right-clicked, and added to the open-with list in the file properties. Some programs add themselves to the list of options, like VLC adds itself in the appropriate places. But not all multi-media applications add themselves to the list. How did I find the right file? Changed some preferences, then went looking for a configuration file that had a very recent modification date. You are obviously on to something but I am not sure how to use this information. My file contains:[Added Associations] x-content/audio-cdda=rhythmbox.desktop; x-content/video-dvd=livna-vlc.desktop; What would I add to allow totem be chosen to play CDs? -- === The average, healthy, well-adjusted adult gets up at seven-thirty in the morning feeling just terrible. -- Jean Kerr === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Unofficial Fedora FAQ Updated for Fedora 9
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Stephen Berg (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, thank you for your great effort. Please correct this entry: http://www.fedorafaq.org/#ntfs ntfs is now supported out of the box and automatically mounted in /media. Cheers, Valent. Did you consider letting the author of that FAQ know about that needed change instead of this list? http://www.fedorafaq.org/contribute/ I thought that OP was the author and that he is reading this list. Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: that old GNU/Linux argument
Alexandre Oliva wrote: GNU is a radical political movement. Putting the name next to Linux makes it seem as though Linus himself endorses the movement. But that's rather dishonest, given that Linus has always stayed away from such political zealotry. So I added a +1) and sent it in. So it would be dishonest to retain the name of the system that Linus chose to use along with his kernel because of imaginary concerns that he himself waved away when he said he didn't care if it was called GNU/Linux, but it's honest to rename it to something that makes it harder for the software to achieve its goal, and denies credit to its authors while at that? Double standards? If Linus was concerned about having the GNU name next to Linux, he wouldn't have oked the name. If he was concerned about distancing himself from GNU, he might as well have kept a distance from all that GNU software. That argument doesn't hold even ice, let alone water :-) He just seems like such a nice guy and it is wrong to take advantage of his agreeable nature to make it incorrectly appear that he supports the radical political zealotry. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Patch bind to pluig Kaminsky DNS vulnerability for FC7?
Does anyone know if there is an easy way to fix bind (bind-chroot) running in an old machine running FC7 so that it offers the same protection as bind-chroot-9.5.0-28.P1.fc8 and bind-9.5.0-33.P1.fc9.i386 ?? Can one use the src rpm for F8 and re-configure it for FC7? I guess there are still quite a lot of servers in use that are running EOLed Fedoras. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy
Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jul 27, 2008, Gordon Messmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the time, RMS had no reason to suggest any such thing. When he was suggesting names for Linus' kernel, He never did such a thing, AFAIK. He suggested a name for the combination of the operating system GNU with the kernel Linux. Never to the kernel itself. That he did is just one of the lies by those who want to denigrate the RMS, the FSF and the Free Software movement. My mistake. I had thought that it was RMS that suggested Linux instead of Freax. Wikipedia says that it was Ari Lemmke that changed the name. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 15:11:38 William Case wrote: I, for one, would miss the occasional Off Topic thread. So would I. In the days when most of the topics were serious they were a light relief. It's not the OT that bothers me, it's the fact that it is now way out of proportion Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 14:09:59 Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2008 07:18:26 am Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2008 00:21:22 Ed Greshko wrote: snip Yes it is an excellent idea. But, sadly, it probably won't work since it relies on reasonable humans to understand and be willing and able to separate their posts among the newly created lists. Or a moderator willing to kick off anyone who refuses to comply Anne Given the events of the past 17 days, I'd think that a proctologist would be a better choice. Needed the dictionary, but yeh! I think you're right :-) Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Patch bind to pluig Kaminsky DNS vulnerability for FC7?
Mike C wrote: Does anyone know if there is an easy way to fix bind (bind-chroot) running in an old machine running FC7 so that it offers the same protection as bind-chroot-9.5.0-28.P1.fc8 and bind-9.5.0-33.P1.fc9.i386 ?? Can one use the src rpm for F8 and re-configure it for FC7? Sure, you should be able to rebuild the F-8 bind srpm or update bind on F-7 to 9.4.2-P1. Then you'll get to do it again soon for any other packages that have security problems. IMO, your time would be better spent updating those boxes to a supported release of Fedora (or RHEL or CentOS) -- unless you're already quite good at building packages and backporting patches. I guess there are still quite a lot of servers in use that are running EOLed Fedoras. That means a lot of admins get to see how much work is really involved in keeping software up to date (or learn the joys of having their boxes rooted). -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Formerly we suffered from crimes; now we suffer from laws. -- Publius Cornelius Tacitus, Roman historian, AD 56 - c. 120 pgp5prKbgKo7V.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
unable to enumerate USB device
I am getting strange messages in the logs: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 5 hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6 hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4 Everything works fine, but I would like to know what causes them. According to what I found on Google, I can safely ignore them. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
SElinux and Brother printer driver problem on F8
Hi, I installed the CUPS printer drivers for my MFC-9840CDW on my F8 system and followed the instructions from http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/linux_faq-2.html#30 to update the SElinux rules. Printing itself works fine, but the page size is not correct. I need A4, but all prints come out as Letter altough A4 is set in the printer config tool. Now, whenever I print something I get a SElinux warning: SELinux is preventing brprintconf_mfc (cupsd_t) write to ./inf (usr_t). I had a look at the files under /usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc9840cdw/inf/ and they all contain the wrong Letter setting. I suspect that the printer drivers want to change the settings in these files to A4, but fails due to the SElinux issue. What rule do I have to put where to solve this issue? Best regards, Bernd -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy
On Jul 29, 2008, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *And* BLAG can actually distribute a lot of the Free Software that Fedora prefers to steer clear from. *And* BLAG gives equal mention to Linux And GNU. So why don't you set up blag-list somewhere ? Because (i) I'm not involved in BLAG, BLAG just happens to use linux-libre (that I am involved with) and offer resources to help me maintain it, and (ii) such a list already exists. I don't see ubuntu people trolling this list, so why should you be doing so ? Moo. Who's the bully here, threatening to take things up to my manager who had explicitly approved of my use of the Red Hat e-mail address to promote software freedom even in Fedora lists? Suggestion: how about you demand those who support *your* point of view to shut up, so that I will then not have to keep correcting them to provide Fedora users with at least a balanced view? It says a lot about a person when he demands with such force that only those who oppose his point of view shut up. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist [EMAIL PROTECTED], gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! = http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED], gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: SElinux and Brother printer driver problem on F8
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 18:42 +0200, Bernd Bartmann wrote: Now, whenever I print something I get a SElinux warning: SELinux is preventing brprintconf_mfc (cupsd_t) write to ./inf (usr_t). Looks like you need something along the lines of: chcon -t cupsd_etc_t /usr/local/Brother/Printer/*/inf (if that works, you might want to mention that to Brother so they can fix their documentation). Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: unable to enumerate USB device
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:37:36 -0500 Mikkel L. Ellertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything works fine, but I would like to know what causes them. According to what I found on Google, I can safely ignore them. As near as I can tell from my googling, they are warning messages from code that got carried away and warning about things it shouldn't have been warning about - things that weren't errors at all. Supposedly there is already a patch that will make them go away, but I guess it hasn't worked its way through to the fedora kernels yet. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: unable to enumerate USB device
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 11:37 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I am getting strange messages in the logs: Just the once, when you boot up? hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 5 hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6 hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4 Everything works fine, but I would like to know what causes them. According to what I found on Google, I can safely ignore them. If it's only as you boot up, you can probably ignore them. I get the same, and it's my computer not working out what to do with the mouse, keyboard, built-in trackpad, etc., as it boots. Yet they all work fine a bit later on. Fedora 9 seems a bit flighty with devices. They don't just get discovered and work, it gets in a tizzy about things not working the instant it notices them, then they work a few more moments later. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: sandy fonts on fedora 9
David Hláčik: Which font resolution in gnome appearance settings are you using? I'll let you know all my font settings, so you can compare. Application font is Sans 8 Document font is Sans 8 Desktop font is Sans 8 Window title font is Sans Bold 9 Fixed width font is Monospace 9 Rendering is subpixel smoothing (LCDs) Resolution is 96 dots per inch Hinting is is full Subpixel order is RGB NB: This isn't a top posting list. Trim things that don't need quoting, then write below the bits you're responding to. See: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
