Re: installed FEDORA 9, then facing a lot of problems. Need urgent HELP!
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:58 +0530, ksh shrm wrote: > *2. Unable to play mp3 files.* > I am unable to play any mp3 files as it requires to download something > from internet. > > *3. Unable to play AVI files* > Similar problem here. I need codec packs for this, One option is to visit http://rpm.livna.org/ install the repo file for Fedora 9, then you can yum install programs like mplayer, vlc, or xine, which can handle mp3s, or you can install more codecs (e.g. xmms-mp3) which will allow other programs (e.g. xmms) to play mp3 files. There's a huge variety of video codecs that may be used inside an AVI file, and those programs will manage to play most of them. Sometimes you might need to add even more codecs to play back more unusual ones. The mplayer website has an additional package of codecs. Programs that make use of gstreamer can have more gstreamer codecs added. There's three sets, good, bad, and ugly, you can install all three. I wouldn't bother going through all of that unless you can't play a file. I've rarely needed the extra codecs. > *4. How to uninstall some softwares.* > I don't have an internet connection running so please guide me how to > uninstall softwares from fedora 9. To uninstall a package called totem, you could do it in at least two ways: rpm -e totem yum remove totem See the man files, or other documentation, for rpm and yum. Both of these questions are FAQs, and answers could easily be found by doing a Google search. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: installed FEDORA 9, then facing a lot of problems. Need urgent HELP!
> HI every1. > > yesterday i installed fedora 9 on my box and now I am > facing a lot of > problems. > > *1. I am unable to install my RT73 USB adapter drivers.* > when i type make as instructed by README, i get this > > make -C /lib/modules/2.6.25-14.fc9.i686/build > SUBDIRS=/root/Desktop/RT73_Linux/Module modules > make: ***/lib/modules/2.6.25-14.fc9.i686/build: No such > file or directory. > Stop > > I checked above location and I found a build file there. > I am a beginner so please advice with all commands. # yum install kernel-devel This will install developement for kernel modules :) > > > *2. Unable to play mp3 files.* > I am unable to play any mp3 files as it requires to > download something from > internet. > CaN ANYONE give me the link and instructions to get that > mp3 codecs. > please send me http link, > http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f9.html > > *3. Unable to play AVI files* > Similar problem here. I need codec packs for this, > Please provide me links. > see 2) > > *4. How to uninstall some softwares.* > I don't have an internet connection running so please > guide me how to > uninstall softwares from fedora 9. > # yum remove name_of_program(s)_you_want_2_remove *** NOTE to install programs from step 2) you will need a working internet connection. Otherwise yum will fail with errors about mirrors cannot be found :( > > Please reply soon. > Thanks in Advance > > -- > adios > > KSH SHRM > > People don't care how much you know, until they know > how much you care...-- Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: grub not working after kernel update
I'd like to follow up on Lee's issue with GRUB not working following a kernel update. This same problem happened to me when I did the automatic update this past weekend. It was very disconcerting! I think this qualifies to be listed in the Common Fedora Bugs documentation. Or, there needs to be a warning when the auto updater attempts to upgrade the kernel. Unfortunately, the rescue disk did not work for me(*), so instead I grabbed the latest respin (7/18) from FedoraUnity.org, upgraded, and selected the option to write the boot loader. Merely updating the boot loader did not suffice. I had to actually specify it be installed again. That worked just fine and got me back up and running. Thanks, Emil Volcheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] (*) due to a known bug with anaconda not recognizing FC4 RAID drives. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
installed FEDORA 9, then facing a lot of problems. Need urgent HELP!
HI every1. yesterday i installed fedora 9 on my box and now I am facing a lot of problems. *1. I am unable to install my RT73 USB adapter drivers.* when i type make as instructed by README, i get this make -C /lib/modules/2.6.25-14.fc9.i686/build SUBDIRS=/root/Desktop/RT73_Linux/Module modules make: ***/lib/modules/2.6.25-14.fc9.i686/build: No such file or directory. Stop I checked above location and I found a build file there. I am a beginner so please advice with all commands. *2. Unable to play mp3 files.* I am unable to play any mp3 files as it requires to download something from internet. CaN ANYONE give me the link and instructions to get that mp3 codecs. please send me http link, *3. Unable to play AVI files* Similar problem here. I need codec packs for this, Please provide me links. *4. How to uninstall some softwares.* I don't have an internet connection running so please guide me how to uninstall softwares from fedora 9. Please reply soon. Thanks in Advance -- adios KSH SHRM People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: cron job
At 10:06 PM Tuesday, 7/29/2008, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote -=> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:05 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 04:29:44PM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > >> Output from nightly cronjobs is filling root's mailbox quickly, > >> and sending everything else to /var/spool/mqueue. These are just > >> status messages (stdout) from the cronjobs which we don't really need > >> mailed to root. Is there anyway to suppress mailings? > > > > Send your jobs to /dev/null like so: > > 30 0 * * * /path/to/program >> /dev/null > > > > Make sense? > > The above addresses stdout as requested > also consider stderr.. > > 2 1 * * *$HOME/bin/check-calendar > /dev/null 2>&1 < /dev/null & What's the final "&" for? From - http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/ch02sec20.html For background processing (With &, use to put particular command and program in background) [linux-command] & For example - $ ls / -R | wc -l & ... Randomly Generated Quote (181 of 1434): "Tact is the ability to describe others as they see themselves." --Abraham Lincoln -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: xscreensaver on dual-monitor setup
? I have a Twin-view configuration setup with the LCD monitor > and TV. It > used to be that xscreensaver treated those independently > and launched an > individual whatever_the_screensaver_was_selected on each of > them. After > the recent update of xscreensaver-gl-extras-gss-5.06-2.fc8 > and > xscreensaver-gl-extras-5.06-2.fc8 my setup is treated as > one common area > and a single screensaver is launched in the middle. It > looks kinda ugly, > because of the significantly different resolution between > the display > devices. > > So I am wondering whether the current behavior this is a > bug or feature > and is it possible to turn back the old behavior without > rolling back to > the previous version? Maybe some command-line parameter? > > > -- > regards, > Oleksandr Korneta > > I'm running FC7 x86_64 and FC8 i386 on x86_64 hardware, > should this matter. > > /The nice thing about standards is that there are so many > to choose from./ > > > -- Take a look at the changelongs from http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/fedora/updates/8/x86_64/xscreensaver-gl-extras-gss-5.06-2.fc8.x86_64.html http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/fedora/updates/8/ppc64/xscreensaver-gl-extras-5.06-2.fc8.ppc64.html Hopefully you can find out what changed between the releases :) Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: SELinux issue with BackupPC 3.1.0 on Fedora 6
Aleksey Tsalolikhin gmail.com> writes: > Hi. I am trying to get BackupPC working on a Fedora Core 6 server. FC6 is no longer supported. Upgrade the f***ing server NOW! Don't rely on SELinux alone for security. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: cron job
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:05 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 04:29:44PM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > >> Output from nightly cronjobs is filling root's mailbox quickly, > >> and sending everything else to /var/spool/mqueue. These are just > >> status messages (stdout) from the cronjobs which we don't really need > >> mailed to root. Is there anyway to suppress mailings? > > > > Send your jobs to /dev/null like so: > > 30 0 * * * /path/to/program >> /dev/null > > > > Make sense? > > The above addresses stdout as requested > also consider stderr.. > > 2 1 * * *$HOME/bin/check-calendar > /dev/null 2>&1 < /dev/null > & What's the final "&" for? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
xscreensaver on dual-monitor setup
Hello, I have a Twin-view configuration setup with the LCD monitor and TV. It used to be that xscreensaver treated those independently and launched an individual whatever_the_screensaver_was_selected on each of them. After the recent update of xscreensaver-gl-extras-gss-5.06-2.fc8 and xscreensaver-gl-extras-5.06-2.fc8 my setup is treated as one common area and a single screensaver is launched in the middle. It looks kinda ugly, because of the significantly different resolution between the display devices. So I am wondering whether the current behavior this is a bug or feature and is it possible to turn back the old behavior without rolling back to the previous version? Maybe some command-line parameter? -- regards, Oleksandr Korneta I'm running FC7 x86_64 and FC8 i386 on x86_64 hardware, should this matter. /The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from./ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 291
> > もうメールはいりません > Does this mean: Email no longer needed ? I do not understand Japanese :( Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 291
008 22:21:41 -0400 > From: Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: SELinux issue with BackupPC 3.1.0 on Fedora 6 > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: > > If I turn off SE Linux, BackupPC works fine. But per our policy, > > this server must have SE Linux turned on. > > What's the point of a policy that requires SELinux to be enabled yet > allows a server to run an OS release that stopped receiving any > updates well over a year ago? > > > How to make this work, please? > > You could look at audit2why and audit2allow, as well as the SELinux > policy for RHEL/CentOS (though I don't know if BackupPC is handled in > that policy or not). > > -- > ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp > ~~ > It is OK to let your mind go blank, but please turn off the sound. > > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 542 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/attachments/20080729/ e7c53c0a/attachment.bin > > -- > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:34:58 -0500 > From: Bob Hartung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: LVM - Install F9 without LVM > To: Fedora List > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi all, >How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting custom > install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. > > Tnx, > > bob > > > > -- > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:56:55 -0700 (PDT) > From: Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM > To: For users of Fedora > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Bob Hartung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Bob Hartung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: LVM - Install F9 without LVM > > To: "Fedora List" > > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 7:34 PM > > Hi all, > >How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting > > custom > > install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. > > > > Tnx, > > > > bob > > > > -- > > Bob, > > Try installing in Text Mode, from release notes it says : > > LVM Unavailable in Text Installs > > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/sn-disk-druid.html > > Try that. Hopefully that let's you install without LVM. > > Regards, > > Antonio > > > > > > > -- > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:28:24 +0930 > From: Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM > To: For users of Fedora > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:34 -0500, Bob Hartung wrote: > >How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting custom > > install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. > > Look around the partitioning tool, you'll see that some things sit on > top of others. Remove them in the right sequence. This is easy if > you're dedicating the whole drive to Linux, you can try removing each > part, one by one. Be careful if you're trying to keep something, though > (e.g. dual-boot systems). > > I installed 9 on one box that way. I let it have LVM on a laptop I'm > playing with, I figured that I wouldn't have anything other than > settings that need keeping on the laptop, so being able to rescue things > isn't a priority. I don't know if we've got any good tools for > recovering from LVM problems yet. > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 > > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I > read messages from the public lists. > > > > > > -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:48:10 +0930 > From: Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: unable to enumerate USB device > To: For users of Fedora > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 12:35 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > This is still an F8 machine. I
Re: New support lists?
> The majority of this very long thread has, I think, bee > focused on > correcting misinformation about the GPL. I don't see > how letting FUD > spread about that license, or any other Free Software > license, is going > to do any good for anyone. > > -- IANAL, even the ones that are can tell that the licensing is a very complicated issue. I have been in those discussions because I have questions myself. In many ways it is an excellent license, but it does have certain clauses that in certain situations, you must comply with it or you can get into trouble. This has happened to companies who have abused the system and to individuals for not complying in some way. The wording is complicated, certain clauses about you can do this, but if you do ..., then you must . Everything matters and is important. On the same token, I have argued back and forth and acknowledge that I misbehaved in some ways. I ask for clemency and hope that all is forgiven :) On the new lists issue, I do not agree that new lists are necessary. Eventually those long threads will appear and it will be difficult not to to see them. There were the KDE4 ones, not too long ago. Eventually things got settled :) This is nature of the list. We have to be prepared for everything. I will also repeat one thing that does justice to the list members. Many are very nice and helpful people that give proper advice and are very knowledgeable in Fedora and other Linuxes with GNU also included. It is a priviledge to learn from many great people :) Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: print request completed but no printer output
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:07 -0700, Francisco Corella wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to use a USB printer with Fedora 8. When I > plugged in the printer to the computer, Gnome > correctly identified the printer as a Brother > MFC-665CW and found a driver for it. I sent several > print requests using Firefox, and also using the > commands lp and lpr. All print jobs were successfully > completed according to lpstat, and according to > /var/log/cups/error_log. But there was no printer > output. The printer is working fine when plugged in > to a Mac. Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance, > > Francisco > I have the same model. A good place to start is here: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html You need to go to different pages to get the drivers for printer, scan and fax. >From memory I had to install the brother drivers first, but hal still created an entry in the printer list itself (a thread last year discussed this). Take care to follow the correct sequence ( lpd driver before cups driver) and all should go well. A current thread discusses how to handle any SELinux denials. Printing is working fine for me, faxes fine, scans as root but am working on getting it for users, works USB or network but haven't tried wireless yet. -- Hooroo, Simon Registered Linux User #463789. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
Alan Cox wrote: I'll make one other comment here. Most 'Free Software' people I know (and I count myself as one) share your view of GNU/Alexandre and wish quite frankly he was a microsoft fanboy instead as he'd do more good for Free and Open Source software that way. The majority of this very long thread has, I think, bee focused on correcting misinformation about the GPL. I don't see how letting FUD spread about that license, or any other Free Software license, is going to do any good for anyone. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM
Bob, choose manual partioning with disk druid. Check the box: "Allow me to review and make changes" or something like that. The you'll be able to see a single VolumeGroup that includes the Logical Volumes. Delete, first the Logical Volumes then the VolumeGroup. After that, create at minimum the following partitions: /boot, /, /home, and a swap partition. It depends what you wanna use the box for. If it is a desktop the previous scheme will work if it is a server use /boot, /, /tmp, /var /usr and a swap partitions. Personally I use LVM on my boxes on a couple of desktops like this scheme: /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3defaults1 2 devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol02 /home ext3defaults1 2 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 sysfs /syssysfs defaults0 0 /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 swapswapdefaults0 0 The advantage with this scheme is that I can easily resize my Logical Volumes when I need it without any disturbance and in an easy way. Think twice before that advantages/disadvantages of LVM before going for a classic partiton style. I even use LVM on an itranet I use on my job for almost five years and it works beautiful. Again, it depends what are you gonna use the box for. Regards On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Peter Langfelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Bob Hartung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi all, >> How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting custom >> install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. >> > > Hmm.. I installed F9 on my desktop using the graphical installer > (anaconda) without LVM without any trouble. Unfortunately it was so > simple I don't remember the details anymore. Perhaps you don't want to > delete the volume but rather change its type? > > HTH, > > Peter > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > -- Ed Landaveri GNU/Linux User 433512 http://counter.li.org "Free as in Freedom" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
print request completed but no printer output
Hello, I'm trying to use a USB printer with Fedora 8. When I plugged in the printer to the computer, Gnome correctly identified the printer as a Brother MFC-665CW and found a driver for it. I sent several print requests using Firefox, and also using the commands lp and lpr. All print jobs were successfully completed according to lpstat, and according to /var/log/cups/error_log. But there was no printer output. The printer is working fine when plugged in to a Mac. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Francisco -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Bob Hartung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting custom > install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. > Hmm.. I installed F9 on my desktop using the graphical installer (anaconda) without LVM without any trouble. Unfortunately it was so simple I don't remember the details anymore. Perhaps you don't want to delete the volume but rather change its type? HTH, Peter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: cron job
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 04:29:44PM -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> Output from nightly cronjobs is filling root's mailbox quickly, >> and sending everything else to /var/spool/mqueue. These are just >> status messages (stdout) from the cronjobs which we don't really need >> mailed to root. Is there anyway to suppress mailings? > > Send your jobs to /dev/null like so: > 30 0 * * * /path/to/program >> /dev/null > > Make sense? The above addresses stdout as requested also consider stderr.. 2 1 * * *$HOME/bin/check-calendar > /dev/null 2>&1 < /dev/null & In general a unix program should be 'silent' unless there is an error. If cronjobs are filling the mailbox too quickly then look at the jobs to see why they are generating so much traffic. Also since this is root and most users 'never' login as root, ;-) also look at /etc/aliases. It is possible to send mail for root to a person. That person can sort, filter, read and dispose of the traffic as needed. Look near the lines: # Person who should get root's mail #root: marc Don't forget to run newaliases. -- T o m M i t c h e l l Looking for a place to hang mfors hat. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Missing Hardwae option
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 17:14 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I would guess you were correct but you are not. I used the file: > > ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list > containing: > > [Added Associations] > x-content/audio-cdda=totem.desktop; > x-content/video-dvd=livna-vlc.desktop; > > I logged out and logged in. But rhythembox appeared and not totem as > one of the options. Try it and see if you can make what you describe > to work. Its frustrating. Looking at the totem.desktop file, I don't find it listing cdda in the MIME types that it supports, so it shouldn't get offered as a player for them, though it (movie player) is on the right-click list when I browse through the psuedo-tracks in Nautilus. I didn't have an audio disc handy when I responded, last night. Can you get totem to play audio discs, manually? I can't through the play disc menu entry in the program, but can through the + button to browse for a file, and I can externally. If you can, it would seem that you've added a plug-in for it, and that should add to the list of MIME types it can accept. Totem would seem a terribly bloated application for playing an audio CD. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can NTFS r/w support be built into the initrd?
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Tom spot Callaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > I thought that might be the answer but wanted to at least ask. In that > case > a somewhat related question... > > Would it be pretty easy to get the modules (ricoh_mmc and dependencies) > required to use the ricoh internal SD card reader in the initrd? The other > thing i wanted to do was just put syslinux on the USB drive since it will > boot to that, but not the card reader, and then actually have the livecd > image on an SD card. > > The end result I'm looking for is to be able to plug in the USB thumb > drive > and boot, but after the initrd is done, be able to remove the USB drive so > I > don't have it sticking out of the machine, while running the live image > off > of the SD card. > > It's just so darn easy to remove/break the usb drive off when moving > around > with a laptop, not to mention I have a 13 month old that is attracted to > the > blue LED light when it's being accessed. > > Thanks, > Richard > -- Richard, It doesn't get easier as they get older. I have a 28 month old and a 5 year old both liking the computer. The 28 month old has found the KILL switch in the back of the computer for the power supply. And my 5 year old always wants the computer when I would like or need to use it for just a short time. You should be able to use a FAT or V-FAT partition. Windows should still like those file systems and they may be easier to integrate into the kernel than the NTFS support. James -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: pulseaudio does not start after kernel update
ma, 2008-07-28 kello 23:57 +0300, Antti J. Huhtala kirjoitti: > ma, 2008-07-28 kello 20:28 +0100, Andrea kirjoitti: > > > > Is there a bug report for that? > > > Andrea > > > Not by me, and haven't had the time to check if someone else has. > I briefly tried the previous kernel and PA seems to work OK in it. > I'll write a bug report tomorrow if no one else has by then. > > Antti > Replying to my own post: After trying what Alan Cox suggested in another thread (Re: getting sound back) on 28th July, my pulseaudio sound worked OK all day yesterday using the latest 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.x86_64 kernel. In addition, there are already a number of bug reports in bugzilla that cover the PA issue (eg. 456485, 455661, 455202, 452702, and 438284) for F9. Check these and add a comment if you think you can shed more light on the problem. I decided my experience had little or no added value. Antti -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: unable to enumerate USB device
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 12:35 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > This is still an F8 machine. I get them both at bootup, and > sometimes when I plug in a new USB device. I haven't tried 8, I skipped from 7 to 9. > Jul 29 12:03:20 mikkel kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on > port 6 > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: new full speed USB device using > ohci_hcd and address 13 > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0830, > idProduct=0050 > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, > Product=2, SerialNumber= > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: Product: Palm Handheld > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. > Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: SerialNumber: PalmSN12345678 > Jul 29 12:04:33 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 13 > > Taking a deeper look at things, I noticed that hub 1 is a version > 2.0 hub, and hub 4 is a version 1.10 hub. These are both internal > hubs, so I wounder if they are using the same socket? Could it be > that the high speed hub (v2.0) tries to talk to the device, and when > it can not, it hands it off to the full speed hub (v1.10)? USB starts off with version 1, at the slowest speed (the lowest common denominator), then sees if it can shift up speeds and to using version 2. This appears as the host device changing from 1 to 2, not just the thing plugged into it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:34 -0500, Bob Hartung wrote: >How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting custom > install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. Look around the partitioning tool, you'll see that some things sit on top of others. Remove them in the right sequence. This is easy if you're dedicating the whole drive to Linux, you can try removing each part, one by one. Be careful if you're trying to keep something, though (e.g. dual-boot systems). I installed 9 on one box that way. I let it have LVM on a laptop I'm playing with, I figured that I wouldn't have anything other than settings that need keeping on the laptop, so being able to rescue things isn't a priority. I don't know if we've got any good tools for recovering from LVM problems yet. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: LVM - Install F9 without LVM
--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Bob Hartung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Bob Hartung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: LVM - Install F9 without LVM > To: "Fedora List" > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 7:34 PM > Hi all, >How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting > custom > install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. > > Tnx, > > bob > > -- Bob, Try installing in Text Mode, from release notes it says : LVM Unavailable in Text Installs http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/sn-disk-druid.html Try that. Hopefully that let's you install without LVM. Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
LVM - Install F9 without LVM
Hi all, How do I install F9 without LVM? Even when selecting custom install/partitioning, I cannot delete the LVM volume. Tnx, bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: SELinux issue with BackupPC 3.1.0 on Fedora 6
Aleksey Tsalolikhin wrote: > If I turn off SE Linux, BackupPC works fine. But per our policy, > this server must have SE Linux turned on. What's the point of a policy that requires SELinux to be enabled yet allows a server to run an OS release that stopped receiving any updates well over a year ago? > How to make this work, please? You could look at audit2why and audit2allow, as well as the SELinux policy for RHEL/CentOS (though I don't know if BackupPC is handled in that policy or not). -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ It is OK to let your mind go blank, but please turn off the sound. pgpyTULFAj8YR.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: network configuration file
> > By default Fedora uses NetworkManager to connect to > networks both wired > > and wireless. You can change things manually, but it > is much easier to > > let NetWorkManger do it for you :) > > Didn't you mean it was much easier to remove > NetworkManager and let tools > that actually work configure the network for you? Yes sir! :) Pretty much Tom Horsely answered the thread much better than I did. I referred the OP to Mauriat Miranda's page where the advise is to do the same as what Tom mentioned # service NetworkManager stop # chkconfig NetworkManager off # chkconfig network on # service network start > > I had occasion to use NM last week... it's the same POS > it always was. On a laptop in which one has both a wired network and a wireless network(that works) it is fine to have NetworkManager. Although it is a pain when dealing with protected networks. Sometimes one has to retype the password(s) to known networks. > > IMHO the *only* reason you would ever want NM around would > be if you needed > to connect to a WPA-protected wireless network. Very true :) > > -- > Marc Wilson | QOTD: On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd > say... oh, somewhere > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | in there. > > -- Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: network configuration file
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:21:23PM -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > By default Fedora uses NetworkManager to connect to networks both wired > and wireless. You can change things manually, but it is much easier to > let NetWorkManger do it for you :) Didn't you mean it was much easier to remove NetworkManager and let tools that actually work configure the network for you? I had occasion to use NM last week... it's the same POS it always was. IMHO the *only* reason you would ever want NM around would be if you needed to connect to a WPA-protected wireless network. -- Marc Wilson | QOTD: On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd say... oh, somewhere [EMAIL PROTECTED] | in there. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Wireless no longer working
Since the latest updates to F9 my wireless no longer works. This seems to be a common theme. Anyway the following messages appear in /var/log/messages and I'm curious as to what they mean Jul 29 18:07:42 localhost kernel: iwl3945: No space for Tx Jul 29 18:07:42 localhost kernel: iwl3945: Error sending REPLY_LEDS_CMD: iwl3945_enqueue_hcmd failed: -28 Jul 29 18:07:42 localhost kernel: iwl3945: No space for Tx Jul 29 18:07:42 localhost kernel: iwl3945: Error sending REPLY_LEDS_CMD: iwl3945_enqueue_hcmd failed: -28 Jul 29 18:07:42 localhost kernel: iwl3945: No space for Tx Jul 29 18:07:42 localhost kernel: iwl3945: Error sending REPLY_LEDS_CMD: iwl3945_enqueue_hcmd failed: -28 Jul 29 18:08:42 localhost kernel: iwl3945: No space for Tx Jul 29 18:08:42 localhost kernel: iwl3945: Error sending REPLY_LEDS_CMD: iwl3945_enqueue_hcmd failed: -28 Jul 29 18:08:42 localhost kernel: iwl3945: No space for Tx Jul 29 18:08:42 localhost kernel: iwl3945: Error sending REPLY_LEDS_CMD: iwl3945_enqueue_hcmd failed: -28 They occur regularly, probable due to NM managing the device. When I try to start it via ifup wlan0 it fails. My wireless dhcp server showst the following messages: WLAN client: 00:1B:77:17:F4:7C, associated to wlan network WLAN client: 00:1b:77:17:f4:7C, disconnected from wlan network. Initiator: client. Reason: Leaving the ESS The client side shows Jul 29 18:25:45 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255port 67 interval 15 Jul 29 18:26:00 localhost dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255port 67 interval 10 Jul 29 18:26:10 localhost dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received. I also have several related questions: 1) Why does NM even try to do something with the wireless device when it is not marked to be activated on boot? I don't need to be active on both the wired and wireless interfaces at the same time :) 2) Why are the activate and deactivate buttons greyed out when I start system-config-network? This the case for both the wired and wireless interfaces. The only way to start the wireless (and have it fail) is to do ifup wlan0. 3) I have both wired and wireless interfaces. The system is normally connected via the wired and gets its address via dhcp from my server. One of the pieces of information provided by my dhcp server and received by NM is the host name Jul 27 12:10:44 localhost dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 10.0.0.70 port 67 Jul 27 12:10:44 localhost dhclient: DHCPACK from 10.0.0.70 Jul 27 12:10:44 localhost dhclient: bound to 10.0.0.4 -- renewal in 2975 seconds. Jul 27 12:10:44 localhost NetworkManager: DHCP: device eth0 state changed bound -> renew Jul 27 12:10:44 localhost NetworkManager: address 10.0.0.4 Jul 27 12:10:44 localhost NetworkManager: netmask 255.255.255.0 Jul 27 12:10:44 localhost NetworkManager: gateway 10.0.0.100 Jul 27 12:10:44 localhost NetworkManager: hostname 'peglaptop10' Jul 27 12:10:44 localhost NetworkManager: nameserver '68.2.16.25' Jul 27 12:10:44 localhost NetworkManager: domain name 'homenet10' Jul 27 12:10:45 localhost NetworkManager: Policy set (eth0) as default device for routing and DNS. Yet when I login after booting the system the host name is set to localhost. Even if I set the hostname to peglaptop10 using hostname peglaptop10 the next time I reboot the host name is back to localhost. 4) How do I fix the following selinux problem which occurs when I do ifdown eth0 rm: cannot remove `/etc/resolv.conf.predhclient.eth0': Permission denied I get an alert from selinux which I have attached. Also when I restart the interface ifup eth0 I get the following even though the interface comes up. [EMAIL PROTECTED] opt]# ifup eth0 Determining IP information for eth0...dhclient(21974) is already running - exiting. This version of ISC DHCP is based on the release available on ftp.isc.org. Features have been added and other changes have been made to the base software release in order to make it work better with this distribution. Please report for this software via the Red Hat Bugzilla site: http://bugzilla.redhat.com exiting. failed. And BTW dhclient is not running after I do the ifdown. I assume this is related to NM managing the interface. Any thoughts and assistance are appreciated. Thanks. Paolo A Description: Binary data -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
SELinux issue with BackupPC 3.1.0 on Fedora 6
Hi. I am trying to get BackupPC working on a Fedora Core 6 server. I installed BackupPC with "yum install backuppc" and "yum install httpd". But when I fire up the Web interface, it says Error: Unable to connect to BackupPC server And I have an SE Linux error message: avc: denied { write } for pid=5120 comm="perl5.8.8" name="BackupPC.sock" dev=dm-0 ino=56393744 scontext=user_u:system_r:httpd_t:s0 tcontext=user_u:object_r:var_log_t:s0 tclass=sock_file If I turn off SE Linux, BackupPC works fine. But per our policy, this server must have SE Linux turned on. How to make this work, please? Best, Aleksey -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Unofficial Fedora FAQ Updated for Fedora 9
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:45:45 +0530 Rahul Sundaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can't make any such assumptions. This list is very high traffic > that people often miss out messages. You would want to contact the > author directly instead. Yeah, I don't usually read this list. I saw this thread by a fluke, but it's best to email me directly. -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Unofficial Fedora FAQ Updated for Fedora 9
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:45:53 +0300 "John Babich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the update. It looks really clean and has great > information. Thanks! > One minor typo that I spotted on Q. 7's answer: > [snip] Ah, thanks, fixed it. :-) -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Unofficial Fedora FAQ Updated for Fedora 9
Valent Turkovic wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Stephen Berg (Contractor) Did you consider letting the author of that FAQ know about that needed change instead of this list? http://www.fedorafaq.org/contribute/ I thought that OP was the author and that he is reading this list. You can't make any such assumptions. This list is very high traffic that people often miss out messages. You would want to contact the author directly instead. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: network configuration file
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:59:13 +0200 Christoph H__ger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Networkmanager (that I am very aware of ;)) is not an option. I should > have mentioned that I need to assign static ip addresses to some virtual > machines by editing something in their root-tree. I find it very convenient to run dhcpd on my virtual machine host and just config my VMs to get their network setup from DHCP. Unfortunately the way networks are setup seems to be different on every linux distro, so it is a pain to track down where the config is stored on different VMs, but they all talk DHCP (even fedora 9 works if you turn off worthless NetworkManager and turn back on network :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can NTFS r/w support be built into the initrd?
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Tom spot Callaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:09 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > >> I'm using the livecd-iso-to-disk to make a bootable USB thumb drive >> for a laptop where I don't want to alter the drive partitioning. I've >> got a 1GB overlay on it but trying to update F9 from the iso to >> current pretty much max's it out. I have created a 4GB overlay file on >> the HD but it is a NTFS partition. >> >> I updated the syslinux.cfg to get it to find the overlay file on the >> HD and it attempted it (I changed out the overlay= command to use the >> HD label and UUID) but it complained that it didn't understand the >> filesystem type. Since I can access the HD once I boot I assume I need >> NTFS support in the initrd. > > Okay, I'm with you. Unfortunately, the Fedora initrd doesn't have any > concept of fuse, or performing fuse mounts. It is not as simple as > simply including the necessary files in the initrd, you'd need to be > sure that the fuse kernel module, as well as the ntfs-3g bits (and > probably the fuse userspace bits and anything they depend on) were > there, yes, but you'd also have to add the mount commands into the > initrd execution sequence. > > It's possible, but I'm not volunteering to hack it up... sorry. > > ~spot I thought that might be the answer but wanted to at least ask. In that case a somewhat related question... Would it be pretty easy to get the modules (ricoh_mmc and dependencies) required to use the ricoh internal SD card reader in the initrd? The other thing i wanted to do was just put syslinux on the USB drive since it will boot to that, but not the card reader, and then actually have the livecd image on an SD card. The end result I'm looking for is to be able to plug in the USB thumb drive and boot, but after the initrd is done, be able to remove the USB drive so I don't have it sticking out of the machine, while running the live image off of the SD card. It's just so darn easy to remove/break the usb drive off when moving around with a laptop, not to mention I have a 13 month old that is attracted to the blue LED light when it's being accessed. Thanks, Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
> P.S. I try to stay out of these threads, but when someone brings up something > completely false about BLAG, I feel I have to correct it, especially when it's > someone like Alan Cox. Thanks for the correction and I understand why you want to correct that promptly. Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Creating an operating system with Linux but without GNU
On Jul 29, 2008, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you are going to make this effort, why not just ditch the kernel > too and re-implement any missing drivers for the *BSDs or OpenSolaris > instead? Because that person really really wants to call it Linux, and if Linux wans't even part of it, that would make even less sense. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist [EMAIL PROTECTED], gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! => http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED], gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can NTFS r/w support be built into the initrd?
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:09 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > I'm using the livecd-iso-to-disk to make a bootable USB thumb drive > for a laptop where I don't want to alter the drive partitioning. I've > got a 1GB overlay on it but trying to update F9 from the iso to > current pretty much max's it out. I have created a 4GB overlay file on > the HD but it is a NTFS partition. > > I updated the syslinux.cfg to get it to find the overlay file on the > HD and it attempted it (I changed out the overlay= command to use the > HD label and UUID) but it complained that it didn't understand the > filesystem type. Since I can access the HD once I boot I assume I need > NTFS support in the initrd. Okay, I'm with you. Unfortunately, the Fedora initrd doesn't have any concept of fuse, or performing fuse mounts. It is not as simple as simply including the necessary files in the initrd, you'd need to be sure that the fuse kernel module, as well as the ntfs-3g bits (and probably the fuse userspace bits and anything they depend on) were there, yes, but you'd also have to add the mount commands into the initrd execution sequence. It's possible, but I'm not volunteering to hack it up... sorry. ~spot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
Alan Cox lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes: > > > And my opinion of Red Hat is shit now, since they have a > > representative like Alexandre fronting for them. > > Red Hat doesn't. Alexandra just persists in abusing his redhat.com > address to advertise his own BLAG distribution in the wrong place. woah woah woah woah woah. BLAG is using Alexandre's kernels, but BLAG is certainly *not* his own distro. In fact, I don't even consider him a BLAG developer and neither does he. BLAG used fedora's and before that Red Hat, Inc. kernel's but that didn't make Dave Jones a BLAG developer either. We use packages from a wide variety of sources. BLAG has been building based on Red Hat Inc.'s Red Hat since 7.3. We have only been using Alexandre's kernels a few months, which is when I first came in contact with him. I don't even think alexandre is using BLAG for that matter, just Fedora with his kernels and then cleans out non-free packages. Please get your facts straight. -Jeff P.S. I try to stay out of these threads, but when someone brings up something completely false about BLAG, I feel I have to correct it, especially when it's someone like Alan Cox. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: network configuration file
Christoph Höger wrote: Hi, Networkmanager (that I am very aware of ;)) is not an option. I should have mentioned that I need to assign static ip addresses to some virtual machines by editing something in their root-tree. If I look at /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 that seems to be the place to go. Has anyone an example of that file with a static ip adress? regards Christoph DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=none IPADDR=192.168.1.9 ONBOOT=yes NETMASK=255.255.255.0 GATEWAY=192.168.1.1 TYPE=Ethernet IPV6INIT=no NM_CONTROLLED=no USERCTL=no Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Missing Hardwae option
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 02:45 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 10:59 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > You are obviously on to something but I am not sure how to use this > > information. > > My file contains:[Added Associations] > > x-content/audio-cdda=rhythmbox.desktop; > > x-content/video-dvd=livna-vlc.desktop; > > > > What would I add to allow totem be chosen to play CDs? > > I'd say to put totem.desktop into the top one instead of the > rhythmbox.desktop (desktop being the menu file for the program) > > CDDA = Compact Disc Digital Audio > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ locate totem.desktop > /usr/share/applications/totem.desktop I would guess you were correct but you are not. I used the file: ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list containing: [Added Associations] x-content/audio-cdda=totem.desktop; x-content/video-dvd=livna-vlc.desktop; I logged out and logged in. But rhythembox appeared and not totem as one of the options. Try it and see if you can make what you describe to work. Its frustrating. Any other ideas out there. -- === Caution: Keep out of reach of children. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can NTFS r/w support be built into the initrd?
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Tom spot Callaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 14:56 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> I'm trying to get to some files on an NTFS partition at boot time and >> tried searching all over google with very limited success. It seems >> the ntfs.ko module does not support read/write well and the ntfs-3g >> module uses fuse. > > The only reason you should need to have this in the initrd is if you're > booting / off ntfs-3g, which I would strongly discourage. Can you > explain exactly why you need this? > > Thanks, > > ~spot (ntfs-3g Fedora maintainer) I'm using the livecd-iso-to-disk to make a bootable USB thumb drive for a laptop where I don't want to alter the drive partitioning. I've got a 1GB overlay on it but trying to update F9 from the iso to current pretty much max's it out. I have created a 4GB overlay file on the HD but it is a NTFS partition. I updated the syslinux.cfg to get it to find the overlay file on the HD and it attempted it (I changed out the overlay= command to use the HD label and UUID) but it complained that it didn't understand the filesystem type. Since I can access the HD once I boot I assume I need NTFS support in the initrd. Thanks, Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: network configuration file
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:59:13 +0200 Christoph Höger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone an example of that file with a static ip adress? DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=none HWADDR=00:1C:C0:2A:00:90 IPADDR=192.168.0.3 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 ONBOOT=yes GATEWAY=192.168.0.1 TYPE=Ethernet USERCTL=no PEERDNS=yes IPV6INIT=no NM_CONTROLLED=no -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: network configuration file
Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 15:31 -0500 schrieb Mikkel L. Ellertson: > Christoph Höger wrote: > > Hi, > > > > when I want a debian based system to start up an ethernet device > > automagically on boot, I simply edit /etc/network/interfaces. > > Is there a similar way on fedora to have a single file where static > > informations go? > > > > regards > > > > christoph > > > You can find the scripts in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. But you > also have to change a couple of services. By default, NetworkManager > runs at boot, and does not bring up the network interfaces until you > log into the GUI. If you use the network service instead, it will > bring up the network on boot instead. > > chkconfig NetworkManager off > chkconfig network on > > If you want to change them before you reboot, run: > > service NetworkManager stop > service network start > > Mikkel > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Hi, Networkmanager (that I am very aware of ;)) is not an option. I should have mentioned that I need to assign static ip addresses to some virtual machines by editing something in their root-tree. If I look at /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 that seems to be the place to go. Has anyone an example of that file with a static ip adress? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can NTFS r/w support be built into the initrd?
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 14:56 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > I'm trying to get to some files on an NTFS partition at boot time and > tried searching all over google with very limited success. It seems > the ntfs.ko module does not support read/write well and the ntfs-3g > module uses fuse. The only reason you should need to have this in the initrd is if you're booting / off ntfs-3g, which I would strongly discourage. Can you explain exactly why you need this? Thanks, ~spot (ntfs-3g Fedora maintainer) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: network configuration file
Christoph Höger wrote: Hi, when I want a debian based system to start up an ethernet device automagically on boot, I simply edit /etc/network/interfaces. Is there a similar way on fedora to have a single file where static informations go? regards christoph You can find the scripts in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. But you also have to change a couple of services. By default, NetworkManager runs at boot, and does not bring up the network interfaces until you log into the GUI. If you use the network service instead, it will bring up the network on boot instead. chkconfig NetworkManager off chkconfig network on If you want to change them before you reboot, run: service NetworkManager stop service network start Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: cron job
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Output from nightly cronjobs is filling root's mailbox quickly, and sending everything else to /var/spool/mqueue. These are just status messages (stdout) from the cronjobs which we don't really need mailed to root. Is there anyway to suppress mailings? Send your jobs to /dev/null like so: 30 0 * * * /path/to/program >> /dev/null Make sense? Max Pyziur [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: cron job
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20080729 22:11]: > > Output from nightly cronjobs is filling root's mailbox quickly, > and sending everything else to /var/spool/mqueue. These are just > status messages (stdout) from the cronjobs which we don't really need > mailed to root. Is there anyway to suppress mailings? Yes. 'man 5 crontab' - Set MAILTO="" in your crontab, and you will suppress mails. HTH /Anders -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Patch bind to pluig Kaminsky DNS vulnerability for FC7?
Les Mikesell wrote: Mike C wrote: Can one use the src rpm for F8 and re-configure it for FC7? While you could probably patch every hole yourself with source builds or rebuilding src rpms from newer fedora versions, you would be better off not using Fedora if you can't or don't want to keep up with the upgrade cycle, and fortunately there are distributions designed for that situation. RHEL5 would be very similar if you want a version with paid support or CentOS5 if you don't. Either will have several more years of continuing update support. They aren't even such a bad choice for desktop use now that the updates have brought OpenOffice and Firefox up to near-current releases (an unusual move - most updates are just backported bug/security fixes). Yes you can use the current F9 src rpm and build it for F7. I did the same thing for FC6. As for Les' contention about the upgrade cycle, while I generally agree in this respect I would like to add, if I COULD upgrade my current FC6 system to something newer I would. But, I can't because of this silly mkinitrd bug that is not allowing my Qlogic FCcard firmware to load on boot. With that said, I'm stuck as it were until that's fixed. Sure, I could probably upgrade despite that, but I won't. I have too much running on that system to manually unload/load that blasted module after every reboot, even if I don't reboot it often. It's a silly bug that should never be a problem. So, in some cases it's not a matter of 'keeping up with the Fedora's', it's a matter of other problems. -- Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fedora release 9 (Sulphur) Kernel: 2.6.25.10-86.fc9.i686 GNU/Linux 16:31:50 up 3 days, 6:20, 2 users, load average: 0.96, 0.77, 0.85 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: network configuration file
--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Christoph Höger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Christoph Höger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: network configuration file > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 1:09 PM > Hi, > > when I want a debian based system to start up an ethernet > device > automagically on boot, I simply edit > /etc/network/interfaces. > Is there a similar way on fedora to have a single file > where static > informations go? > > regards > > christoph-- Christoph, By default Fedora uses NetworkManager to connect to networks both wired and wireless. You can change things manually, but it is much easier to let NetWorkManger do it for you :) You may visit this site for more information and the Fedora Wiki available after you visit the below page. http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f9.html#network Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
network configuration file
Hi, when I want a debian based system to start up an ethernet device automagically on boot, I simply edit /etc/network/interfaces. Is there a similar way on fedora to have a single file where static informations go? regards christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
cron job
Output from nightly cronjobs is filling root's mailbox quickly, and sending everything else to /var/spool/mqueue. These are just status messages (stdout) from the cronjobs which we don't really need mailed to root. Is there anyway to suppress mailings? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Antonio Olivares wrote: >--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Gene, >> > >> >I use mythtv for all of that stuff, both recording and >> >> watching TV. >> >> yes, but setting up a mythtv system needs real time access >> to a mythtv guru, >> and a couple of days to build everything. The guru I have, >> but he has >> limited time too. > >Gene, > >You may want to visit the MythDora project. It is a custom Fedora based > distro that should (set up everything for you*). > >http://www.mythdora.com/ > >I do not know if it is a true (GNU/Linux) distro, but I hope you will not > mind :). > >Regards, > >Antonio Thanks Antonio. I grabbed the torrent file & may set ktorrent to go get the dvd. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) TAILFINS!! ... click ... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Roger Heflin wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to change channels in the xine front end? I can't find a channel up/down function in its gui. No... Don't actually use xine for this purpose. What do you use? xine works, but it sure is kludgy to change channels. A minute or more with lots of false starts, specially for the hi-def subchannel. Thanks Ed, now if we could get this list back to its stated purpose. Gene, I use mythtv for all of that stuff, both recording and watching TV. yes, but setting up a mythtv system needs real time access to a mythtv guru, and a couple of days to build everything. The guru I have, but he has limited time too. Not really. With no mythtv experience it took me less than a day to setup my original system (putting it on a already running fedora 7 system at the time), the second time I set it up took <2 hours, and that included compiling mythtv from source. And if you do attempt it there is a mythtv list with a number of guru's on it which usually respond reasonably quickly if you can properly describe the issue, but for the most part the howto's describe the steps needed. If you are watching 1080i or 720p it does require a reasonable CPU and video card to do it. And mythtv can be run in a window, but the default config is full screen. One proggy I watched last night claimed to be 1920x1050 or some such figure. And it did miss-fire occasionally since its a good 70 air miles to the transmitter and WV's topology is vertical. Its been said from more than one podium that if WV was stomped out flat, it would be the biggest state in the union. I could see what, I am only about 40 miles from the antenna and if the weather is being difficult things sometimes get messy. Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Can NTFS r/w support be built into the initrd?
I'm trying to get to some files on an NTFS partition at boot time and tried searching all over google with very limited success. It seems the ntfs.ko module does not support read/write well and the ntfs-3g module uses fuse. Is it possible to get fuse built into my initrd with ntfs support? Also, I consider myself an advanced linux user but not quite an expert, so I'm not really sure how best to modify the initrd. Are there any helper tools or am I stuck doing the gz/cpio, changing files, cpio/gz it back up method? Thanks, Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Gene, > > > >I use mythtv for all of that stuff, both recording and > watching TV. > > > yes, but setting up a mythtv system needs real time access > to a mythtv guru, > and a couple of days to build everything. The guru I have, > but he has > limited time too. Gene, You may want to visit the MythDora project. It is a custom Fedora based distro that should (set up everything for you*). http://www.mythdora.com/ I do not know if it is a true (GNU/Linux) distro, but I hope you will not mind :). Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: using mock like debootstrap
* Christoph Höger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20080729 20:55]: > Hi, > > for a deployment of virtual machines I need a complete root tree. > To get it I use mock --init --root=fedora-9-i386 (or any other release) > > That works a little like debootstrap. > > But what do I need to get my machine _really_ working (I already > installed yum, sshd and some tools)? > For example I am missing /etc/shadow and cannot use passwd to set up a > root password. > > So is there some kind of base packages list? You can also do this: # mkdir /mnt/test # yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=fedora --disableplugins=* \ --installroot=/mnt/test groupinstall Base - this will fail - # cp -a /var/cache/yum/fedora /mnt/test/var/cache/yum/ # yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=fedora --disableplugins=* \ --installroot=/mnt/test groupinstall Base and you have a small jail with a good start. Once you have the jail with the package-set you like, tar it up for quick creation of new jails later. :) I think this is the closest thing to an equivalent of "debootstrap" in Fedora. HTH, /Anders -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Roger Heflin wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to change channels in the xine front end? I can't find a channel up/down function in its gui. >>> >>> No... Don't actually use xine for this purpose. >> >> What do you use? xine works, but it sure is kludgy to change channels. A >> minute or more with lots of false starts, specially for the hi-def >> subchannel. >> >> Thanks Ed, now if we could get this list back to its stated purpose. > >Gene, > >I use mythtv for all of that stuff, both recording and watching TV. > yes, but setting up a mythtv system needs real time access to a mythtv guru, and a couple of days to build everything. The guru I have, but he has limited time too. >If you are watching 1080i or 720p it does require a reasonable CPU and video >card to do it. And mythtv can be run in a window, but the default config > is full screen. One proggy I watched last night claimed to be 1920x1050 or some such figure. And it did miss-fire occasionally since its a good 70 air miles to the transmitter and WV's topology is vertical. Its been said from more than one podium that if WV was stomped out flat, it would be the biggest state in the union. >Somethings I watch live, but generally I record it and may watch it almost > live (a few minutes behind the current recording) or days later. > >Roger -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) You won't skid if you stay in a rut. -- Frank Hubbard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: that old GNU/Linux argument
> In as much as you help the other side by adopting an unfair > name, it > is indeed in part your fault. You've become an > accomplice of this > unfairness. Okay, they are the ones who are wrong, but they are not free as you have pointed out. Maybe it is okay to call the projects Linux because they are non-free. For those that want to run truly free systems TRUE(GNU/Linux) may vistit http://www.fsfla.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-libre and download a free* kernel from http://www.fsfla.org/~lxoliva/fsfla/linux-libre/ This way the OS that they will be running will be the true GNU/Linux that you and other FSF promoters are asking. Ours is not a true GNU/Linux, because it contains BAD stuff that makes it nonfree, is that a valid conclusion? > > Linux Distributions include that and they call > themselves Linux > > Distributions not GNU/Linux Distributions with the > excepion of > > Debian GNU/Linux. > > That a lot of people insist in a mistake doesn't make > it right. Now I have an argument that makes it right. They are non-free they include stuff that is no-no from FSF. See top comment :) > > Debian is far from the only one who uses a fair name for > the distros, > or to describe it. Heck, there's even a commercial > distro in Brazil > called Insigne GNU/Linux, by Insigne Free Software do > Brasil. Cool, I did not know that :). I have only heard of Conectiva, which was bought out by Mandrake Soft and became Mandriva. I have heard of Kurumin and also of GoblinX, which is a sister distro of Slax, one of my favorites along with Fedora. There are others that have XP like qualities and also some based on Gentoo like Litrix as well :) > > > Yet your buddies still leech off Fedora and get their > guidelines off > > the Fedora site > > *blinks* What?!? How did you get the impression that any > such thing > happened? That Rahul, Spot and others worked along with > the FSF to > come up with those guidelines and to review licenses used > in Fedora > packages is nothing at all like the FSF just taking > Fedora's > guidelines. Heck, Fedora even conflicts with those > guidelines in > important ways, both in policy and package set. Why would > anyone say > Fedora is a Free distribution when it isn't? We were fooled :( Damn I was very convinced that Fedora followed all the rules, could you at least acknowledge that Fedora is 95% free or something along those lines. IT is not all that BAD is it? > > -- Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Patch bind to pluig Kaminsky DNS vulnerability for FC7?
Les Mikesell gmail.com> writes: > While you could probably patch every hole yourself with source builds or > rebuilding src rpms from newer fedora versions, you would be better off > not using Fedora if you can't or don't want to keep up with the upgrade > cycle, and fortunately there are distributions designed for that > situation. RHEL5 would be very similar if you want a version with paid > support or CentOS5 if you don't. Either will have several more years of > continuing update support. They aren't even such a bad choice for > desktop use now that the updates have brought OpenOffice and Firefox up > to near-current releases (an unusual move - most updates are just > backported bug/security fixes). Well all but one of the boxes under my control is more up to date but that one is a laptop physically a long way from me and it will be a while before I get a chance to have a day away to do the upgrade - I was just looking for an interim measure Thanks anyway. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Creating an operating system with Linux but without GNU
Sorry for the double post, Lost connection to internet and clicked on send to be safe in case it did not get sent :( Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: using mock like debootstrap
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Christoph Höger wrote: > Hi, > > for a deployment of virtual machines I need a complete root tree. > To get it I use mock --init --root=fedora-9-i386 (or any other release) > > That works a little like debootstrap. > > But what do I need to get my machine _really_ working (I already > installed yum, sshd and some tools)? > For example I am missing /etc/shadow and cannot use passwd to set up a > root password. > > So is there some kind of base packages list? > > regards > > Christoph look at the install option of mock do the init then do an mock install of the packages you need -- Dennis Gilmore signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Creating an operating system with Linux but without GNU
--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Creating an operating system with Linux but without GNU > To: "For users of Fedora" > Cc: "Marko Vojinovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 11:16 AM > Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > > > To make the point clear, let's try a thought > experiment. Imagine that > > some people are so fed up with "these > threads" that they set out to > > create an operating system built exclusively out of > Free (Libre) and > > Open Source software, but without any GNU software, to > avoid any > > claims GNUdists might have on it. > > > > They're fond of Linux, for they helped write it, > so they decide to use > > it as a kernel. > > > > They look around and see there are a number of BSD > operating systems > > out there, so they decide to use the BSD userland to > complete the > > operating system, taking bits and pieces from FreeBSD, > OpenBSD and > > NetBSD. > > > > It takes some effort to port the lower-level > libraries, init scripts > > and stuff, but eventually the thing boots up, runs a > shell and it's > > announced to the world, with pointers to BSD ports > systems and many > > pre-built ports of applications and servers that most > people have come > > to expect from typical distros. Lucky for them, most > of the ports > > build without change. > > If you are going to make this effort, why not just ditch > the kernel too > and re-implement any missing drivers for the *BSDs or > OpenSolaris > instead? That way you lose both the zealot political > movement and the > restrictive license in one fell swoop and end up with code > that people > can actually use. You'd get dtrace and zfs as a bonus > and the decades > of having to duplicate and waste effort because of GPL > restrictions that > prevent sharing could finally be over. > > -- >Les Mikesell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Creating an operating system with Linux but without GNU
> If you are going to make this effort, why not just ditch > the kernel too > and re-implement any missing drivers for the *BSDs or > OpenSolaris > instead? That way you lose both the zealot political > movement and the > restrictive license in one fell swoop and end up with code > that people > can actually use. You'd get dtrace and zfs as a bonus > and the decades > of having to duplicate and waste effort because of GPL > restrictions that > prevent sharing could finally be over. +1) See below > > -- >Les Mikesell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To those still monitoring this thread, The comments section at Distrowatch.com is flooded with GPL stuff http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20080728&mode=67#comments The GPL cops are asking for sources to several distros that have only produced binaries. They get the sources from a mother distro and make a few changes and then release a distro of their own. Then people complain that they are not GPL compliant and call RMS and the FSF foundation to make the bastards^{1} give back their code and comply. All of this could be prevented if someone follows through with this idea. The hard part is actually implementing it. The Linux kernel from kernel.org, even with the non-free stuff supports a great deal of devices that are not supported over at *BSD and OpenSolaris, if those devices are made available and the support is there. It would help tremendously alleviate the problems encountered over here. While those problems are not major, they can bite back at any time :( The other idea is forking the Linux kernel and get rid of the restrictions that pollute/tarnish all the good progress that has been made across the years since the birth of the project. Regards, Antonio {1} Those distros that use GPL code and distribute binaries and do not post their changes or source files(with modifications), and therefore fully comply with the GPL. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: using mock like debootstrap
Christoph Höger wrote: Hi, for a deployment of virtual machines I need a complete root tree. To get it I use mock --init --root=fedora-9-i386 (or any other release) That works a little like debootstrap. But what do I need to get my machine _really_ working (I already installed yum, sshd and some tools)? For example I am missing /etc/shadow and cannot use passwd to set up a root password. So is there some kind of base packages list? regards Christoph I believe that this is what: system-config-netboot.noarch does. Diskless clients need the same base as VM clients, especially if you want to run a minimal install for each VM client. Recently, my son worked on a completely automated VM install that customers can do over the web, with live status. Pretty cool stuff, and he started here, with system-config-netboot.noarch. Good luck! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Can I get a word in edgewise here, puhlease?
Gene Heskett wrote: Does anyone know how to make that work, or, how to change channels in the xine front end? I can't find a channel up/down function in its gui. No... Don't actually use xine for this purpose. What do you use? xine works, but it sure is kludgy to change channels. A minute or more with lots of false starts, specially for the hi-def subchannel. Thanks Ed, now if we could get this list back to its stated purpose. Gene, I use mythtv for all of that stuff, both recording and watching TV. If you are watching 1080i or 720p it does require a reasonable CPU and video card to do it. And mythtv can be run in a window, but the default config is full screen. Somethings I watch live, but generally I record it and may watch it almost live (a few minutes behind the current recording) or days later. Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
using mock like debootstrap
Hi, for a deployment of virtual machines I need a complete root tree. To get it I use mock --init --root=fedora-9-i386 (or any other release) That works a little like debootstrap. But what do I need to get my machine _really_ working (I already installed yum, sshd and some tools)? For example I am missing /etc/shadow and cannot use passwd to set up a root password. So is there some kind of base packages list? regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: OT: What is fusebulk filesystem? ntpass fails to reset windows password :(
--- On Tue, 7/29/08, TNWestTex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: TNWestTex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: OT: What is fusebulk filesystem? ntpass fails to reset windows > password :( > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 10:54 AM > Antonio Olivares wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > A Lenovo Laptop running Windows Vista locked out > the teacher who was > > issued the computer at school. The teacher forgot > the password. I have > > successfully used the SystemRescue > CD http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page > > with the utitlity ntpass many times. This time, it > failed. I also tried > > the cd from > http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/ which is the > same. > > The laptop locked the teacher out and he could not > login. I told them it > > was a snap and boy was I wrong. The cd locates the > users and apparently > > all looks good and when we reboot we try with a blank > password and we > > cannot log on. Trying other livecd's also gets > us nowhere. There > > apparently is some garbage on the > C:\Windows\system\system32 directory > > that prevents the ntpasswd from doing its job. When > viewing the > > filesystem which should be NTFS, the programs > accessing the drive report > > that the fs is fusebulk. I have not heard about > fusebulk filesystem. > > There has to be some sort of encryption on the drive > to prevent the > > password blank from working. > > Does anyone have any other tools that can reset the > password in such a > > case? > > Is the only solution to reformat and reinstall? > > > > > NTFS from VISTA has changes that have not been caught up to > by the non M$ > utilities. The school doesn't have a system > administrator that has the > master password? > -- Thank you for your concerns and also to another user that explained the fuse filesystem. The computer has been reformatted and the software reinstalled. It somehow is protected* (when you try to blank or change the password, it locks you out), this is the kind of sh*t that we do not like. But we popped in a restore cd that came with the laptop and started it from scratch. If we mess around with any livecd with password changer/reseters, the computer will not boot even with the correct password that was issued. This is weird and is the second computer of many that I was not able to blank the password so as to gain back control. Also happened in another case a Dell machine running XP and the teacher let a student use the computer to do a research paper, the student changed the password and locked everyone out of it. I tried to use the SystemRescueCD, trinity Rescue CD, and I could not finish the job. Several modules could not be loaded and the machine would return a kernel panic. Another friend of mine had a Windows LiveCD built with BartPE and he got in and changed the password back :) This allowed the teacher to get back the control of the computer. Thank you all for your help! Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: KDE 4.1 is finally released!
Eric Mesa wrote: > I know it's been in testing for a while as 4.98, so is it coming to Fedora > today? Or do we have a long while to wait? update queue'd/pending: http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-6743 -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
KDE 4.1 is finally released!
I know it's been in testing for a while as 4.98, so is it coming to Fedora today? Or do we have a long while to wait? -- Eric Mesa http://www.ericsbinaryworld.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Creating an operating system with Linux but without GNU
Alexandre Oliva wrote: To make the point clear, let's try a thought experiment. Imagine that some people are so fed up with "these threads" that they set out to create an operating system built exclusively out of Free (Libre) and Open Source software, but without any GNU software, to avoid any claims GNUdists might have on it. They're fond of Linux, for they helped write it, so they decide to use it as a kernel. > They look around and see there are a number of BSD operating systems out there, so they decide to use the BSD userland to complete the operating system, taking bits and pieces from FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD. It takes some effort to port the lower-level libraries, init scripts and stuff, but eventually the thing boots up, runs a shell and it's announced to the world, with pointers to BSD ports systems and many pre-built ports of applications and servers that most people have come to expect from typical distros. Lucky for them, most of the ports build without change. If you are going to make this effort, why not just ditch the kernel too and re-implement any missing drivers for the *BSDs or OpenSolaris instead? That way you lose both the zealot political movement and the restrictive license in one fell swoop and end up with code that people can actually use. You'd get dtrace and zfs as a bonus and the decades of having to duplicate and waste effort because of GPL restrictions that prevent sharing could finally be over. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Moved hard drive, can't get display set properly... Intel Graphics card... Xorg.conf
linuxguy-3 wrote: > > Good morning, all. > > My laptop died on the weekend. (HP, 4th time in the last year !) So I > pulled the hard drive and installed it in a Dell desktop machine. > Everything works fine except that I can never get the video/display > working properly with this setup. > > The laptop used an nvida board and I downloaded the driver from livna. > That worked perfectly. > > When I first booted with the Dell machine, X wouldn't start, thus I only > had the console. I backed up xorg.conf and then deleted it. X will > now start, but the screen size is wrong and I can't get to the start > menu. > > If I run Xorg -configure, X won't start. > > According to hwbrowser, the Dell machine uses an Intel 82865G Integrated > Graphics Controller. It also states the driver is intelfb. > > I can run system-config-display, but the display (Dell FPW2005) doesn't > show an option for the 1650x 1080 resolution. > > How do I fix things so that the KDE desktop size matches the display > size ? > > OR > > How do I get the display size to be 1650 x1080 ? (If I edit the > Xorg.conf file to add a mode 1650x 1080 line, X won't start again.) > > Intel graphics is a can of worms!! You don't say which operating system you're running. I have one system with a 82915G chipset that works in both F8 and F9 with the i810 driver. A newer desktop with the 82945G chipset works with the i810 driver in F8 but not in F9. See my post on 6/23 "Display from Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller offset to left" If you are running F9 there is an experimental driver "Intel" In F9 everything is supposed to be automatic but woe to you if you need custom settings. Robert McBroom -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Moved-hard-drive%2C-can%27t-get-display-set-properly...-Intel-Graphics-card...-Xorg.conf-tp18693416p18718269.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
KDE 4.1 is released
http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.1 apparently KDE-PIM is back too Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: OT: What is fusebulk filesystem? ntpass fails to reset windows password :(
Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Dear all, > A Lenovo Laptop running Windows Vista locked out the teacher who was > issued the computer at school. The teacher forgot the password. I have > successfully used the SystemRescue CD http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page > with the utitlity ntpass many times. This time, it failed. I also tried > the cd from http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/ which is the same. > The laptop locked the teacher out and he could not login. I told them it > was a snap and boy was I wrong. The cd locates the users and apparently > all looks good and when we reboot we try with a blank password and we > cannot log on. Trying other livecd's also gets us nowhere. There > apparently is some garbage on the C:\Windows\system\system32 directory > that prevents the ntpasswd from doing its job. When viewing the > filesystem which should be NTFS, the programs accessing the drive report > that the fs is fusebulk. I have not heard about fusebulk filesystem. > There has to be some sort of encryption on the drive to prevent the > password blank from working. > Does anyone have any other tools that can reset the password in such a > case? > Is the only solution to reformat and reinstall? > > NTFS from VISTA has changes that have not been caught up to by the non M$ utilities. The school doesn't have a system administrator that has the master password? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/OT%3A-What-is-fusebulk-filesystem--ntpass-fails-to-reset-windows-password-%3A%28-tp17524370p18717911.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: that old GNU/Linux argument
On Jul 28, 2008, Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > RMS is the one requesting this >> I am. He's not here. He's not even aware I'm doing this here. > But you are under his jurisdiction, He is the leader of the FSF/GNU. > He is obviously in command. He may very well be in command of something or someone, but he has no authority over me. I just happen to share and promote the goals of the Free Software movement, like he does. I learned a lot from him. But that doesn't put him in command as far as I'm concerned. > IT is not my FAULT that they have not succeeded or are not succeeding :( In as much as you help the other side by adopting an unfair name, it is indeed in part your fault. You've become an accomplice of this unfairness. > Only Debian and a few others have caved in to those requests. Not > even Ubuntu which is based on Debian call themselves Ubuntu > GNU/Linux is that an insult to the Debian and GNU camps? Fedora and Ubuntu are the full distro names. These names are fine, they don't demean GNU or promote Linux over GNU. Fedora Linux or Ubuntu Linux would have been unfair. Saying Fedora and Ubuntu are Linux distributions is unfair. And, worse than being unfair, these names don't help correct the social injustice that the Free Software movement and the GNU project were created to correct. >> Yeah, the kernel could have been named Freax. Then they'd have >> renamed the GNU operating system to Freaks. > Nope, by the arguments they would have named it GNU/Freaks in honor > of the GNU guys who deserve the credit too. That's what would have been the right thing to do. But they chose early on not to do the right thing, as history shows. >> And it's not GNU utilities. It's an operating >> system. > But GNU utilities exist in *BSD camps as well, and the name GNU/*BSD > is not used or required. Exactly. Because it's not about the GNU utilities, it's the GNU operating system. GNU utilities are a part of it, but far from all. > Linux Distributions include that and they call themselves Linux > Distributions not GNU/Linux Distributions with the excepion of > Debian GNU/Linux. That a lot of people insist in a mistake doesn't make it right. Debian is far from the only one who uses a fair name for the distros, or to describe it. Heck, there's even a commercial distro in Brazil called Insigne GNU/Linux, by Insigne Free Software do Brasil. > Fedora is not free as you have said so yourself. So I am not > running a free GNU/Linux distribution. Why should I say Fedora > GNU/Linux if it is not pure and it has bad stuff? http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#reserve > Yet your buddies still leech off Fedora and get their guidelines off > the Fedora site *blinks* What?!? How did you get the impression that any such thing happened? That Rahul, Spot and others worked along with the FSF to come up with those guidelines and to review licenses used in Fedora packages is nothing at all like the FSF just taking Fedora's guidelines. Heck, Fedora even conflicts with those guidelines in important ways, both in policy and package set. Why would anyone say Fedora is a Free distribution when it isn't? -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist [EMAIL PROTECTED], gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! => http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED], gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: unable to enumerate USB device
Tim wrote: If it's only as you boot up, you can probably ignore them. I get the same, and it's my computer not working out what to do with the mouse, keyboard, & built-in trackpad, etc., as it boots. Yet they all work fine a bit later on. Fedora 9 seems a bit flighty with devices. They don't just get discovered and work, it gets in a tizzy about things not working the instant it notices them, then they work a few more moments later. This is still an F8 machine. I get them both at bootup, and sometimes when I plug in a new USB device. Jul 29 12:03:20 mikkel kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6 Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 13 Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0830, idProduct=0050 Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber= Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: Product: Palm Handheld Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: Manufacturer: Palm, Inc. Jul 29 12:03:21 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: SerialNumber: PalmSN12345678 Jul 29 12:04:33 mikkel kernel: usb 4-3: USB disconnect, address 13 Taking a deeper look at things, I noticed that hub 1 is a version 2.0 hub, and hub 4 is a version 1.10 hub. These are both internal hubs, so I wounder if they are using the same socket? Could it be that the high speed hub (v2.0) tries to talk to the device, and when it can not, it hands it off to the full speed hub (v1.10)? Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Moving Icons on bottom toolbar
FC9-KDE . All the Icons on bottom toolbar have moved to the Left, including clock. If i try a"Start Move" of a Icon and move it to the right, it won't move to the right further than the center of toolbar, In other words can't move to the far right, even the clock. I have all current Updates installed. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: SElinux and Brother printer driver problem on F8
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 18:12:50 Bernd Bartmann wrote: > 2008/7/29 Tim Waugh: > > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 18:42 +0200, Bernd Bartmann wrote: > >> Now, whenever I print something I get a SElinux warning: > >> > >> SELinux is preventing brprintconf_mfc (cupsd_t) "write" to ./inf > >> (usr_t). > > > > Looks like you need something along the lines of: > > > > chcon -t cupsd_etc_t /usr/local/Brother/Printer/*/inf > > > > (if that works, you might want to mention that to Brother so they can > > fix their documentation). > > Thanks Tim! That did the trick. Altough the files in the inf/ > directory do not get changed I now get the printouts in A4 format and > no SElinux warning anymore. > Bernd, I second Tim's suggestion that you should contact Brother. Some time back I fed some info back to them and they did appreciate it. Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Creating an operating system with Linux but without GNU (was: Re: that old GNU/Linux argument)
On Jul 28, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the following paragraphs of that post, I used it to draw a silent > parallel to the whole Linux vs GNU/Linux discussion. FWIW, classical/information doesn't make for such a parallel. It's not the classical on top of the information; classical is not a noun, it's an adjective to information. You'd just say "classical information" and be done with it. That's how the English language works. Now, GNU/Linux or GNU+Linux is GNU on top of Linux, or GNU with Linux. It's not the GNU version of Linux. No such thing exists, although I guess Linux-libre might be thought of as such. To make the point clear, let's try a thought experiment. Imagine that some people are so fed up with "these threads" that they set out to create an operating system built exclusively out of Free (Libre) and Open Source software, but without any GNU software, to avoid any claims GNUdists might have on it. They're fond of Linux, for they helped write it, so they decide to use it as a kernel. They look around and see there are a number of BSD operating systems out there, so they decide to use the BSD userland to complete the operating system, taking bits and pieces from FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD. It takes some effort to port the lower-level libraries, init scripts and stuff, but eventually the thing boots up, runs a shell and it's announced to the world, with pointers to BSD ports systems and many pre-built ports of applications and servers that most people have come to expect from typical distros. Lucky for them, most of the ports build without change. Now, of course they can use whatever name they like to name the distribution (they picked cRocks), but what term would you use to best describe the operating system on which it is based? a) non-GNU/Linux, because *that* will show those FSF bastards! b) BSD/Linux, because that's what it is: BSD userland with Linux kernel c) cRocks, because that's the (funny) name of the distro, and this makes for a great recursive definition: cRocks is a cRocks-based distribution... d) BSD, because that's where most of the software came from, and it's the most user-visible component e) Linux, because I like this name so much, and I don't care that Linux is just a kernel, a small piece of the puzzle. I just want it to be Linux, dammit, and you BSD people are full of sh*t, shut up and go preach to your own choir, we're only interested in your software, and it's your own fault that you expected us to be reasonable and fair, rather than demanding in your license that we give you the due credit! :-) f) Other, please specify: >> I do not see how not using GNU/Linux is a social injustice. I disagree. > Neither do I, but Alexandre is talking about it in a number of > posts. This is conflating two issues that are related, but not the same. One thing is the social injustice promoted by non-Free Software. That's what the Free Software movement, started along with the GNU project, fights, with its ethical, moral and social values and its approach in educating users to value their freedom and reject software that doesn't respect it. Another thing is the name. Linux doesn't promote or endorse this philosophy. GNU does. By naming the GNU system combined with Linux as Linux, you promote only the philosophy that wants to hide the GNU philosophy. You do nothing to address the social injustice that the GNU software was created to oppose, and you instead promote values that accept and often go even as far as endorsing and recommending software that is at the root of this social injustice. OTOH, by referring to the OS as GNU/Linux, you help spread the Free Software philosophy, such that more people become aware of it. At least some of them will identify themselves with these values, which will ultimately help correct the social injustice. Now, maybe there's some resemblance to this to your suggestion about clearly labeling "classical information", but I don't see it. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist [EMAIL PROTECTED], gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! => http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED], gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy
Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jul 29, 2008, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: *And* BLAG can actually distribute a lot of the Free Software that Fedora prefers to steer clear from. *And* BLAG gives equal mention to Linux And GNU. So why don't you set up blag-list somewhere ? Because (i) I'm not involved in BLAG, BLAG just happens to use linux-libre (that I am involved with) and offer resources to help me maintain it, and (ii) such a list already exists. I don't see ubuntu people trolling this list, so why should you be doing so ? Moo. Who's the bully here, threatening to take things up to my manager who had explicitly approved of my use of the Red Hat e-mail address to promote software freedom even in Fedora lists? Suggestion: how about you demand those who support *your* point of view to shut up, so that I will then not have to keep correcting them to provide Fedora users with at least a balanced view? It says a lot about a person when he demands with such force that only those who oppose his point of view shut up. Hmm - I saw a reasonable request not to use your RedHat account for your extreme views. It looks like you have a hard time telling the difference between promoting software freedom, and what you are doing. You can express your views, but by using your RedHat account, you are implying that your views are RedHat's views on the subject. So I see asking you to post your views using a private account and taking it to your supervisor when you persist, a responsible act, not "bulling". Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Entering Interactive startup
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 18:24 -0400, Robert Karge wrote: > After loading FD9 on a spare machine at the next restart when reaching > the point of "enter an I for interactive startup" I did do that. > But every time I have used this function on the same computer through > numerous new releases of Fedora it always worked. > Not this time. Worked here, about as well as it ever has: Not instantly, often after the point that I wanted to go into interactive mode (i.e. some services have started as usual), I've never worked out whether it needs i or shift+i, and I've had to stab repeatedly to get it recognised. Another thing that springs to mind is what sort of keyboard are you using? If it's USB, the system mightn't be recognising it as a keyboard, yet. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Missing Hardwae option
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 10:59 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > You are obviously on to something but I am not sure how to use this > information. > My file contains:[Added Associations] > x-content/audio-cdda=rhythmbox.desktop; > x-content/video-dvd=livna-vlc.desktop; > > What would I add to allow totem be chosen to play CDs? I'd say to put totem.desktop into the top one instead of the rhythmbox.desktop (desktop being the menu file for the program) CDDA = Compact Disc Digital Audio [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ locate totem.desktop /usr/share/applications/totem.desktop [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ less /usr/share/applications/totem.desktop -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: SElinux and Brother printer driver problem on F8
2008/7/29 Tim Waugh: > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 18:42 +0200, Bernd Bartmann wrote: >> Now, whenever I print something I get a SElinux warning: >> >> SELinux is preventing brprintconf_mfc (cupsd_t) "write" to ./inf (usr_t). > > Looks like you need something along the lines of: > > chcon -t cupsd_etc_t /usr/local/Brother/Printer/*/inf > > (if that works, you might want to mention that to Brother so they can > fix their documentation). Thanks Tim! That did the trick. Altough the files in the inf/ directory do not get changed I now get the printouts in A4 format and no SElinux warning anymore. Best regards, Bernd. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Patch bind to pluig Kaminsky DNS vulnerability for FC7?
Mike C wrote: Does anyone know if there is an easy way to fix bind (bind-chroot) running in an old machine running FC7 so that it offers the same protection as bind-chroot-9.5.0-28.P1.fc8 and bind-9.5.0-33.P1.fc9.i386 ?? Can one use the src rpm for F8 and re-configure it for FC7? I guess there are still quite a lot of servers in use that are running EOLed Fedoras. While you could probably patch every hole yourself with source builds or rebuilding src rpms from newer fedora versions, you would be better off not using Fedora if you can't or don't want to keep up with the upgrade cycle, and fortunately there are distributions designed for that situation. RHEL5 would be very similar if you want a version with paid support or CentOS5 if you don't. Either will have several more years of continuing update support. They aren't even such a bad choice for desktop use now that the updates have brought OpenOffice and Firefox up to near-current releases (an unusual move - most updates are just backported bug/security fixes). -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: "sandy" fonts on fedora 9
David Hláčik: > Which font resolution in gnome appearance settings are you using? I'll let you know all my font settings, so you can compare. Application font is Sans 8 Document font is Sans 8 Desktop font is Sans 8 Window title font is Sans Bold 9 Fixed width font is Monospace 9 Rendering is subpixel smoothing (LCDs) Resolution is 96 dots per inch Hinting is is full Subpixel order is RGB NB: This isn't a top posting list. Trim things that don't need quoting, then write below the bits you're responding to. See: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: unable to enumerate USB device
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 11:37 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > I am getting strange messages in the logs: Just the once, when you boot up? > hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 5 > hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6 > hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4 > > Everything works fine, but I would like to know what causes them. > According to what I found on Google, I can safely ignore them. If it's only as you boot up, you can probably ignore them. I get the same, and it's my computer not working out what to do with the mouse, keyboard, & built-in trackpad, etc., as it boots. Yet they all work fine a bit later on. Fedora 9 seems a bit flighty with devices. They don't just get discovered and work, it gets in a tizzy about things not working the instant it notices them, then they work a few more moments later. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: unable to enumerate USB device
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:37:36 -0500 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Everything works fine, but I would like to know what causes them. > According to what I found on Google, I can safely ignore them. As near as I can tell from my googling, they are warning messages from code that got carried away and warning about things it shouldn't have been warning about - things that weren't errors at all. Supposedly there is already a patch that will make them go away, but I guess it hasn't worked its way through to the fedora kernels yet. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: SElinux and Brother printer driver problem on F8
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 18:42 +0200, Bernd Bartmann wrote: > Now, whenever I print something I get a SElinux warning: > > SELinux is preventing brprintconf_mfc (cupsd_t) "write" to ./inf (usr_t). Looks like you need something along the lines of: chcon -t cupsd_etc_t /usr/local/Brother/Printer/*/inf (if that works, you might want to mention that to Brother so they can fix their documentation). Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy
On Jul 29, 2008, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> *And* BLAG can actually distribute a lot of the Free Software that >> Fedora prefers to steer clear from. *And* BLAG gives equal mention to >> Linux And GNU. > So why don't you set up blag-list somewhere ? Because (i) I'm not involved in BLAG, BLAG just happens to use linux-libre (that I am involved with) and offer resources to help me maintain it, and (ii) such a list already exists. > I don't see ubuntu people trolling this list, so why should you be > doing so ? Moo. Who's the bully here, threatening to take things up to my manager who had explicitly approved of my use of the Red Hat e-mail address to promote software freedom even in Fedora lists? Suggestion: how about you demand those who support *your* point of view to shut up, so that I will then not have to keep correcting them to provide Fedora users with at least a balanced view? It says a lot about a person when he demands with such force that only those who oppose his point of view shut up. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software Evangelist [EMAIL PROTECTED], gnu.org} FSFLA Board Member ¡Sé Libre! => http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED], gcc.gnu.org} -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
SElinux and Brother printer driver problem on F8
Hi, I installed the CUPS printer drivers for my MFC-9840CDW on my F8 system and followed the instructions from http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/linux_faq-2.html#30 to update the SElinux rules. Printing itself works fine, but the page size is not correct. I need A4, but all prints come out as Letter altough A4 is set in the printer config tool. Now, whenever I print something I get a SElinux warning: SELinux is preventing brprintconf_mfc (cupsd_t) "write" to ./inf (usr_t). I had a look at the files under /usr/local/Brother/Printer/mfc9840cdw/inf/ and they all contain the wrong "Letter" setting. I suspect that the printer drivers want to change the settings in these files to "A4", but fails due to the SElinux issue. What rule do I have to put where to solve this issue? Best regards, Bernd -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
unable to enumerate USB device
I am getting strange messages in the logs: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 5 hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6 hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4 Everything works fine, but I would like to know what causes them. According to what I found on Google, I can safely ignore them. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Patch bind to pluig Kaminsky DNS vulnerability for FC7?
Mike C wrote: > Does anyone know if there is an easy way to fix bind (bind-chroot) > running in an old machine running FC7 so that it offers the same > protection as > bind-chroot-9.5.0-28.P1.fc8 > and > bind-9.5.0-33.P1.fc9.i386 > ?? > > Can one use the src rpm for F8 and re-configure it for FC7? Sure, you should be able to rebuild the F-8 bind srpm or update bind on F-7 to 9.4.2-P1. Then you'll get to do it again soon for any other packages that have security problems. IMO, your time would be better spent updating those boxes to a supported release of Fedora (or RHEL or CentOS) -- unless you're already quite good at building packages and backporting patches. > I guess there are still quite a lot of servers in use that are > running EOLed Fedoras. That means a lot of admins get to see how much work is really involved in keeping software up to date (or learn the joys of having their boxes rooted). -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Formerly we suffered from crimes; now we suffer from laws. -- Publius Cornelius Tacitus, Roman historian, AD 56 - c. 120 pgp5prKbgKo7V.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 14:09:59 Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 07:18:26 am Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 00:21:22 Ed Greshko wrote: > >>> snip > >>> > > > Yes it is an excellent idea. But, sadly, it probably won't work since > > > it relies on reasonable humans to understand and be willing and able to > > > separate their posts among the newly created lists. > > > > Or a moderator willing to kick off anyone who refuses to comply > > > > Anne > > Given the events of the past 17 days, I'd think that a proctologist would > be a better choice. > Needed the dictionary, but yeh! I think you're right :-) Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: New support lists?
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 15:11:38 William Case wrote: > I, for one, would miss the occasional Off Topic thread. So would I. In the days when most of the topics were serious they were a light relief. It's not the OT that bothers me, it's the fact that it is now way out of proportion Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy
Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jul 27, 2008, Gordon Messmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At the time, RMS had no reason to suggest any such thing. When he was suggesting names for Linus' kernel, He never did such a thing, AFAIK. He suggested a name for the combination of the operating system GNU with the kernel Linux. Never to the kernel itself. That he did is just one of the lies by those who want to denigrate the RMS, the FSF and the Free Software movement. My mistake. I had thought that it was RMS that suggested Linux instead of Freax. Wikipedia says that it was Ari Lemmke that changed the name. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Patch bind to pluig Kaminsky DNS vulnerability for FC7?
Does anyone know if there is an easy way to fix bind (bind-chroot) running in an old machine running FC7 so that it offers the same protection as bind-chroot-9.5.0-28.P1.fc8 and bind-9.5.0-33.P1.fc9.i386 ?? Can one use the src rpm for F8 and re-configure it for FC7? I guess there are still quite a lot of servers in use that are running EOLed Fedoras. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: that old GNU/Linux argument
Alexandre Oliva wrote: GNU is a radical political movement. Putting the name next to Linux makes it seem as though Linus himself endorses the movement. But that's rather dishonest, given that Linus has always stayed away from such political zealotry. So I added a +1) and sent it in. So it would be dishonest to retain the name of the system that Linus chose to use along with his kernel because of imaginary concerns that he himself waved away when he said he didn't care if it was called GNU/Linux, but it's honest to rename it to something that makes it harder for the software to achieve its goal, and denies credit to its authors while at that? Double standards? If Linus was concerned about having the GNU name next to Linux, he wouldn't have oked the name. If he was concerned about distancing himself from GNU, he might as well have kept a distance from all that GNU software. That argument doesn't hold even ice, let alone water :-) He just seems like such a nice guy and it is wrong to take advantage of his agreeable nature to make it incorrectly appear that he supports the radical political zealotry. -- Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Unofficial Fedora FAQ Updated for Fedora 9
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Stephen Berg (Contractor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Valent Turkovic wrote: >> >> Hi, thank you for your great effort. >> >> Please correct this entry: >> http://www.fedorafaq.org/#ntfs >> >> ntfs is now supported "out of the box" and automatically mounted in >> /media. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Valent. > > Did you consider letting the author of that FAQ know about that needed > change instead of this list? http://www.fedorafaq.org/contribute/ I thought that OP was the author and that he is reading this list. Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Missing Hardwae option
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 23:52 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 10:04 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > What if you wanted to have totem process audio CDs or xine do DVDs. > > How would you do that? > > I'm feeling a case of deja vu, I answered this about a week or so ago: > > From: Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: For users of Fedora > Subject: Re: Fedora9 DVD autoplay > Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:35:59 +0930 > > > On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 08:43 +0200, Federico Marziali wrote: > >> he problem is that, within this window, you can choose > >> which programs to use for autoplay *only* from a predefined list. For > >> instance for Audio CD I can choose between Totem, Rhythmbox, Do > >> Nothing, and Open Folder. > >> There is no "Custom" "Use-your-command-here" or other, which is very > >> strange (a bug???). Now, I can't possibly believe that this list of 4 > >> choices is hard coded (can it be? o_O), but I could not find where is > >> the corresponding configuration file. > > > I added some information to this file, and they were added to the > > drop-down list: > > > > ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list > > > > The file also appears to list entries for files that I've right-clicked, > > and added to the open-with list in the file properties. > > > > Some programs add themselves to the list of options, like VLC adds > > itself in the appropriate places. But not all multi-media applications > > add themselves to the list. > > > > How did I find the right file? Changed some preferences, then went > > looking for a configuration file that had a very recent modification > > date. > You are obviously on to something but I am not sure how to use this information. My file contains:[Added Associations] x-content/audio-cdda=rhythmbox.desktop; x-content/video-dvd=livna-vlc.desktop; What would I add to allow totem be chosen to play CDs? -- === The average, healthy, well-adjusted adult gets up at seven-thirty in the morning feeling just terrible. -- Jean Kerr === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F9 cant automount usb drives
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:17 +0200, Herbert Gasiorowski wrote: > Vassilios Kotoulas wrote: > > hi, > > > > after upgrading from f7 to f9 I cant automount my usb disk. I use gnome, > > hal is running and when I switch the disk on I see the usual syslog > > entries. I can also see the drive with fdisk -l. I configurated the > > authorizations to my user is allowed to mount drives. I can mount the > > drive as root from command line. selinux is set to permissive. what did > > I forget? > > > > I just have the same problem: "none" of my usb sticks will mount > automatically > on Fedora 9, but they will on fedora 7 and 8! > > Now I found out that Dolphin (Applications Menu / System Tools) does not have > any problems with at least one memory stick : It is correctly listed and can > be > mounted! > > Maybe it is a Nautilus / Gnome problem ... This will not help you much but my usb stick mounts and even opens a nautilus window. This goes along with my complaint about the missing functionality of System->Preferences->Hardware that used to allow you to control that behavior. > -- === Incumbent, n.: Person of liveliest interest to the outcumbents. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list