Joining the Art Team....

2009-01-02 Thread Doug Berry
Hey, I received an email from Nick B about sending an introduction to the Art Team and giving a couple of examples of my previous work. Let me say, right off, that I do not consider myself an artist, I'm more of a designer. I have in past, built several top-rated websites and done a tonne of

[Bug 477440] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-01-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477440 --- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2009-01-02 08:03:02 EDT ---

[Bug 477440] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-01-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477440 --- Comment #5 from Alexander Kahl ak...@iconmobile.com 2009-01-02 08:12:50 EDT --- Updates for F-9 and F-10 submitted for

[Bug 477440] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-01-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477440 --- Comment #6 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-01-02 09:40:51 EDT --- The font packages in rawhide

[Bug 477427] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-01-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477427 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 477427] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-01-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477427 --- Comment #4 from Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net 2009-01-02 09:56:10 EDT --- So one subpackage for the /lib/default.ttf, or

[Bug 477440] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-01-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477440 --- Comment #7 from Alexander Kahl ak...@iconmobile.com 2009-01-02 10:12:32 EDT --- The name of the fonts in the unit test

[Bug 477482] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-01-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477482 --- Comment #6 from Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net 2009-01-02 11:30:29 EDT --- Thanks, see

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Re: fontpackages template warnings

2009-01-02 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 01 janvier 2009 à 21:09 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit : On Tuesday 30 December 2008, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: [...] Hi Sorry for hijacking the thread for something quite unrelated, np but for me the fontpackages package name sounds pretty weird. I think similar packages are

Re: Disk IO issues

2009-01-02 Thread Sascha Thomas Spreitzer
Hello again, this line looks suspicious to me: # nameactive_objs num_objs objsize objperslab pagesperslab : tunables limit batchcount sharedfactor : slabdata active_slabs num_slabs sharedavail ext3_inode_cache 98472 15026076051 : tunables 54 27 8 : slabdata 30052

Re: Disk IO issues

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 09:38:43 +0100, Sascha wrote: The Filesystem is btw. marked as needs_recovery. Which can be harmless, because it is a feature flag that is also set if dumpe2fs is run on a mounted fs. It means that there are blocks that still need to be committed, which is pretty normal for a

Re: Disk IO issues

2009-01-02 Thread James Antill
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 11:57 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote: Hello again, this line looks suspicious to me: # nameactive_objs num_objs objsize objperslab pagesperslab : tunables limit batchcount sharedfactor : slabdata

Re: Disk IO issues

2009-01-02 Thread Mike McGrath
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, James Antill wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 11:57 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote: Hello again, this line looks suspicious to me: # nameactive_objs num_objs objsize objperslab pagesperslab : tunables

Re: Disk IO issues

2009-01-02 Thread Mike McGrath
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote: Hello again, this line looks suspicious to me: # nameactive_objs num_objs objsize objperslab

Re: Disk IO issues

2009-01-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote: Hello again, this line looks suspicious

Re: Disk IO issues

2009-01-02 Thread Kostas Georgiou
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 01:28:43PM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, James Antill wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 11:57 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer wrote: Hello again, this line looks suspicious to me: # name

Re: Disk IO issues

2009-01-02 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 13:28 -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: There are other directories at /mnt/koji/static-repos/. A directory like static-repos contains almost exclusively hardlinks to those packages. Since many of those hardlink oriented directories can be recreated, we don't bother backing

Outage Notification - 2009-01-03 04:16 UTC

2009-01-02 Thread Mike McGrath
There is a current unscheduled outage starting at 2009-01-03 UTC, which will last for an unknown amount of time. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2009-01-03 04:16 UTC' Affected Services: Fedora Hosted

Re: RAID5 gets a bad rap

2009-01-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
Bill Davidsen wrote: Gordon Messmer wrote: ... No. Even in the worst case it would read N-2 blocks (you are writing a new data block and calculating new parity), and two writes. Let's just say that I've seen controllers behave in ways that I don't understand, and that I agree, the cost

external hard drive

2009-01-02 Thread Peter Lesterhuis
Hi, I installed fedora 10 on a new box, but every time mouse and keyboard are freezing an short while after logging in. Considering the messages in /var/log/messages I have come to the conclusion that it must have something to do with the SATA-controller. I have very little knowledge about this.

Re: external hard drive

2009-01-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 02 January 2009 09:00:39 Peter Lesterhuis wrote: Hi, I installed fedora 10 on a new box, but every time mouse and keyboard are freezing an short while after logging in. Considering the messages in /var/log/messages I have come to the conclusion that it must have something to do with

Re: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-02 Thread Tim
Ed Greshko: I've deleted the References header from this message so it should appear as a new thread. Aaron Konstam: On my machine in evolution it appears as part of the same thread. There is obviously something I don't understand about the complaints about this that people keep making.

HiJacking Threads Was: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-02 Thread Ed Greshko
Aaron Konstam wrote: You have committed one of the cardinal sins of mail list postings. You've hijacked a thread. I've deleted the References header from this message so it should appear as a new thread. Don't reply to a message, and change the subject to your choice that is

Re: HiJacking Threads Was: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-02 Thread Ed Greshko
Ed Greshko wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: You have committed one of the cardinal sins of mail list postings. You've hijacked a thread. I've deleted the References header from this message so it should appear as a new thread. Don't reply to a message, and change the subject to your

Re: Unrecognized Hard Drive

2009-01-02 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2009-01-01 at 16:44 -0800, jdow wrote: there are some hacks I might try, sharply twisting the drive on the axis of rotation as power is applied, for example. Sometimes that will get the disk to spin up if that's the problem. I've managed to rescue data that way a couple times. I am

Re: Fedora 10 and cups remote printing failures

2009-01-02 Thread Tim Waugh
On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 16:19 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: I thought I would ask this question again before I create a bug report. I am still having problems getting cups on FC10 to work remotely with some cups servers. FC10 works with a remote FC5 cups server, but does not work remote Centos

Re: iprint iphone app and F10/cups

2009-01-02 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 22:00 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: Has anyone been able to get a decent photo print from the HP iPhone App iPrint? I've got bonjour enabled for my printer and the app sees it, but the photo doesn't fit on the page -- only a small portion of it prints. Sounds like it might

Java Support in 64-bit F10

2009-01-02 Thread Dave Feustel
I've been running 32-bit F9 and I'm getting ready to upgrade to F10. I would like to upgrade to 64-bit F10, but not if I lose Java support. What is the state of Java in 64-bit F10? Are there any other gotcha's in switching from 32-bit to 64-bit Fedora? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Java Support in 64-bit F10

2009-01-02 Thread Waleed Harbi
Try use Openjdk, if not work you will need use Firefox 32-bit and Jave 32-bit. --- Yours, Waleed Harbi If you want your goals to come true, don't sleep. On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Dave Feustel dfeus...@mindspring.comwrote:

Re: external hard drive

2009-01-02 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Peter Lesterhuis wrote: Hi, I installed fedora 10 on a new box, but every time mouse and keyboard are freezing an short while after logging in. Considering the messages in /var/log/messages I have come to the conclusion that it must have something to do with the SATA-controller. I have very

Re: OTish: Fedora 10 LXDE Posting Q?

2009-01-02 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Frank Murphy frankl...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Need to clarify. Would it be here, I would post about problems I had booting F10-LXDE, and how was overcome. Or someplace like fedorasolved? Frank Since LXDE is now available through Fedora it would not be

Re: Network changing from eth0 to eth1

2009-01-02 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: The 70-persistent-net.rules file will take care of that. It keeps tract of the MAC addresses, and assures that the same device name is always assigned to that MAC address. What I have found with HWADDR is that the interface will not come up if the MAC address is

lnstat: core dump

2009-01-02 Thread Peter Teoh
Upon typing lnstat I got coredumped. Mine is FC6, and kernel is 2.6.28 from linus tree. strace lnstat execve(/usr/sbin/lnstat, [lnstat], [/* 44 vars */]) = 0 brk(0) = 0x804c000 access(/etc/ld.so.preload, R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

Re: Default route not set on boot up

2009-01-02 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Charles Crayne wrote: In my case, there were two places where the NETMASK statement was corrupted: /etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg-eth0 /etc/sysconfig/networking/profiles/default/ifcfg-eth0 If you have checked both of these files, then, regrettably, I have no other ideas. Add

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Craig White wrote: In the US, the warranty on WD drives is 3 times longer than Maxtor and my statistically insignificant experience tells me that the Maxtor drives are more prone to failure. I think WD is a first rate hard drive manufacturer even though they don't do SCSI drives any more.

Re: Network changing from eth0 to eth1

2009-01-02 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Roberto Ragusa wrote: FWIW, I just discovered how useful can be a manually modified 70-persistent-net.rules file. You can map MAC addresses to interface names and completely remove the HWADDR from ifcfg-eth? files. In my case this is perfect because I want to have *two* different NICs

Re: external hard drive

2009-01-02 Thread Mike Wohlgemuth
Peter Lesterhuis wrote: Is it possible to install fedora 10 on an external hard drive and create en dual boot system? I do this fairly regularly. I have configured my laptop to boot first off of the USB interface. Each time a new Fedora release comes out, I plug in my USB drive and install

Re: fedora 10: best video card

2009-01-02 Thread slamp slamp
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-29 at 16:31 -0800, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote: Select one that does not have an onboard fan (lower power). It can also mean higher reliability, as you don't have to worry about some crappy fan (as they tend

Re: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-02 Thread Fennix
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Support wrote: Hi, I have not setup an AP for a while and would like someone to point in the right direction on setting an AP on Fedora 10. One can only find hostapd for FC8 and not 10. Much appreciated in

Re: lnstat: core dump

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:42:44 +0800, Peter wrote: Upon typing lnstat I got coredumped. Mine is FC6, and kernel is 2.6.28 from linus tree. strace lnstat Get a full backtrace instead http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces and reproduce it on stock FC6 with the last official updates or

network problem

2009-01-02 Thread Gerhard Magnus
I have a small home LAN that I am starting to upgrade from FC9 to FC10. As the network is still hardwired with ethernet cable and the boxes all have static IP addresses I would like to continue using the old network service rather than NetworkManager. After installing FC10 on one of the machines

Re: network problem

2009-01-02 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 09:09:29 -0800 Gerhard Magnus wrote: Is there an easy fix to this -- short of doing the installation over? Thanks for the help! Assuming that your network card is eth0: vi /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 vi /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-eth0 Make the

Re: network problem

2009-01-02 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Gerhard Magnus wrote: I have a small home LAN that I am starting to upgrade from FC9 to FC10. As the network is still hardwired with ethernet cable and the boxes all have static IP addresses I would like to continue using the old network service rather than NetworkManager. After installing

Re: Network changing from eth0 to eth1

2009-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Roberto Ragusa wrote: FWIW, I just discovered how useful can be a manually modified 70-persistent-net.rules file. You can map MAC addresses to interface names and completely remove the HWADDR from ifcfg-eth? files. In my case this is perfect because I want to have

Re: RAID5 gets a bad rap

2009-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
Gordon Messmer wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Gordon Messmer wrote: Your assertion ignores the fact that filesystems themselves are, in fact, databases. Real-world experience with many production systems and many workloads has convinced me to use RAID 5 as rarely as possible. Even when I'm

Re: network problem

2009-01-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 January 2009, Gerhard Magnus wrote: I have a small home LAN that I am starting to upgrade from FC9 to FC10. As the network is still hardwired with ethernet cable and the boxes all have static IP addresses I would like to continue using the old network service rather than

Curiosity -- No JRE package in Fedora 10 ??

2009-01-02 Thread William Case
Hi; Installed everything OK but I am curious. I just installed FreeMind -- a mind mapper. It required JRE as a dependency and JRE required several libraries and files as a dependencies. JRE is a fairly common Java program. Why wouldn't JRE/JDK be a standard Fedora package and why wouldn't

Re: Curiosity -- No JRE package in Fedora 10 ??

2009-01-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:18:16 -0500 William Case billli...@rogers.com wrote: Hi; Installed everything OK but I am curious. I just installed FreeMind -- a mind mapper. It required JRE as a dependency and JRE required several libraries and files as a dependencies. JRE is a fairly common

Re: Curiosity -- No JRE package in Fedora 10 ??

2009-01-02 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
yum search java On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:18 PM, William Case billli...@rogers.com wrote: Hi; Installed everything OK but I am curious. I just installed FreeMind -- a mind mapper. It required JRE as a dependency and JRE required several libraries and files as a dependencies. JRE is a

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
Dave Ihnat wrote: Mind, I'm not defending APC _per se_, but some of your issues appear to me to be non-issues. Just some observations on APC, and UPS units in general. On Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 02:26:45PM -0500, Robert L Cochran wrote: The APC unit serving my network support devices failed

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
Craig White wrote: Strange experience I had with Belkin...a bunch of years ago, I bought one of their 4 port KVM switches with USB and it didn't work very well. I wrote them an e-mail and never heard a word back. Some 4 months later, a manager at Belkin called me on the telephone, apologized,

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Robert L Cochran wrote: A warranty claim seems so easy, doesn't it? Getting that claim honored is an expensive process. I did this for a Western Digital hard drive, but I had to pay for the packaging and mailing cost to send the hard drive I was making warranty claim

Re: Unrecognized Hard Drive

2009-01-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
jdow wrote: It sounds like the drive cannot get its head mounted and simply hangs somehow. It's not useful for backups. If I had data on it there are some hacks I might try, sharply twisting the drive on the axis of rotation as power is applied, for example. Sometimes that will get the disk to

Re: F10: new kernel breaks audio (snd-hda-intel)

2009-01-02 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Endy e...@digitalgrotto.net wrote: stan wrote: Alfredo Ferrari wrote: Hi I have a Dell D830, with F10 fully up-to-date. The kernel update of two days ago (2.6.27.9-159.fc10) has

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 13:33 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Craig White wrote: Strange experience I had with Belkin...a bunch of years ago, I bought one of their 4 port KVM switches with USB and it didn't work very well. I wrote them an e-mail and never heard a word back. Some 4 months later,

Re: Curiosity -- No JRE package in Fedora 10 ??

2009-01-02 Thread Andreas Waldenburger
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:21:56 -0700 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: In any case I see: kdissert and labyrinth available in Fedora that both seem to be described as mind mapping applications. FYI, none of those can hold a candle to Freemind. Pitty nobody has seen fit to include it into the

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 January 2009, Bill Davidsen wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Robert L Cochran wrote: A warranty claim seems so easy, doesn't it? Getting that claim honored is an expensive process. I did this for a Western Digital hard drive, but I had to pay for the packaging and mailing cost to

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Bill Davidsen wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I have had good luck getting Western Digital drives replaced. If you run their diagnostic code, or have a drive that will not test because it will not spin up, you can go for an advance exchange - you have to have a credit card, so they can

Re: Curiosity -- No JRE package in Fedora 10 ??

2009-01-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:06:59 +0100 Andreas Waldenburger wilde...@freakmail.de wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:21:56 -0700 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: In any case I see: kdissert and labyrinth available in Fedora that both seem to be described as mind mapping applications. FYI, none

Re: Unrecognized Hard Drive

2009-01-02 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Bill Davidsen wrote: jdow wrote: It sounds like the drive cannot get its head mounted and simply hangs somehow. It's not useful for backups. If I had data on it there are some hacks I might try, sharply twisting the drive on the axis of rotation as power is applied, for example. Sometimes

sound stops working on F10

2009-01-02 Thread Mail Lists
Sound is a bit quirky - sometimes i hear things sometimes I dont. Now it has stopped working - a reboot fixes it. I do see this in the logs ... Jan 2 14:46:02 me pulseaudio[3227]: module-alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new d ata to the device, but there was actually nothing to

Re: sound stops working on F10

2009-01-02 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/02/2009 02:55 PM, Mail Lists wrote: Jan 2 14:46:02 me pulseaudio[3227]: module-alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new d ata to the device, but there was actually nothing to write! Most likely this is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the PulseAudio developers.

Re: sound stops working on F10

2009-01-02 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:55:05 -0500 Mail Lists wrote: Sound is a bit quirky - sometimes i hear things sometimes I dont. Now it has stopped working - a reboot fixes it. I do see this in the logs ... I too occasionally lose my sound on Fedora 10. The solution that I've found is as

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 January 2009, Bill Davidsen wrote: Craig White wrote: Strange experience I had with Belkin...a bunch of years ago, I bought one of their 4 port KVM switches with USB and it didn't work very well. I wrote them an e-mail and never heard a word back. Some 4 months later, a manager at

Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?

2009-01-02 Thread Armin
On Friday 02 January 2009 16:15:35 Ambrogio wrote: On dom, 2008-12-21 at 14:05 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: That was the way things used to be. Now KDE is harder to configure, not as flexible and is difficult if not impossible to set up the way I like things (task manager showing 1 icon per

Re: network problem -- fixed

2009-01-02 Thread Gerhard Magnus
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 11:17 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 09:09:29 -0800 Gerhard Magnus wrote: Is there an easy fix to this -- short of doing the installation over? Thanks for the help! Assuming that your network card is eth0: vi

Re: sound stops working on F10

2009-01-02 Thread Phil Meyer
Mail Lists wrote: Sound is a bit quirky - sometimes i hear things sometimes I dont. Now it has stopped working - a reboot fixes it. I do see this in the logs ... Jan 2 14:46:02 me pulseaudio[3227]: module-alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new d ata to the device, but there was

Gnome - file browser view

2009-01-02 Thread Jeffrey Ross
by default (or at least default on my system) whenever I use the GUI to view a directory, I am presented with and icon view of the files/directory. I know I can go to View and then view as list or Control-2 but how do I make the the default behavior? I really don't want to see big icons

Fedora 10 repositories question

2009-01-02 Thread Gerhard Magnus
I'm in the process of upgrading FC9 to FC10. (1) In order to get the default Fedora 10 rpms am I correct in assuming that I don't have to download any more GPG keys? (2) When I was running FC9 I used the livna depository for some third-party software. Has livna become part of RPMfusion for FC10 so

Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?

2009-01-02 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Armin feng.sh...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 02 January 2009 16:15:35 Ambrogio wrote: On dom, 2008-12-21 at 14:05 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: That was the way things used to be. Now KDE is harder to configure, not as flexible and is difficult if not impossible to

Re: Gnome - file browser view

2009-01-02 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 15:54 -0500, Jeffrey Ross wrote: by default (or at least default on my system) whenever I use the GUI to view a directory, I am presented with and icon view of the files/directory. I know I can go to View and then view as list or Control-2 but how do I make the the

Re: Fedora 10 repositories question

2009-01-02 Thread Gar Nelson
Gerhard Magnus wrote: I'm in the process of upgrading FC9 to FC10. (1) In order to get the default Fedora 10 rpms am I correct in assuming that I don't have to download any more GPG keys? (2) When I was running FC9 I used the livna depository for some third-party software. Has livna become

Re: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Fennix wrote: Really want to understand this question. Why does this question often appear on what gmail shows as new threads? Maybe GMail ignores the References header if the subject changed. But most threaded mail clients will assume the author knows what he/she is doing when he/she decides

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Robert L Cochran
You do know that not so darn heavy probably means it's either not a lead-acid battery--and depending on the type, that brings its own problems--or it's an undersized battery. As I said, I've had bad results with TrippLite (pity, too--they're a local Chicago company, so I'd like to support

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 18:55 -0500, Robert L Cochran wrote: You do know that not so darn heavy probably means it's either not a lead-acid battery--and depending on the type, that brings its own problems--or it's an undersized battery. As I said, I've had bad results with TrippLite (pity,

X locks up after a random time

2009-01-02 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Ok, this is a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo U9200, with Intel graphics, F10 64bit, updated last week. KDE desktop, compiz and all, but I believe it is not related. The symptom: system boots up regularly, I do regular work, and after a random amount of time, X freezes. If compiz is on, all I can do

Re: HiJacking Threads Was: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: You have committed one of the cardinal sins of mail list postings. You've hijacked a thread. I've deleted the References header from this message so it should appear as a new thread. Don't

Re: new F10 kernel borked?

2009-01-02 Thread Ricardo Argüello
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote: Thanks, I'll try that. If that's the case, what would be the proper method of enabling relatime (apparently not simply adding it to /etc/fstab). It is a known bug: Bug 430280 - mkinitrd can't deal with the

Re: HiJacking Threads Was: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-02 Thread Ed Greshko
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Yes I probably should have removed a few more headers as well to totally break it out. But, now this reply will be out of thread with your response. Bottom line People start

Re: Java Support in 64-bit F10

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Leung
As I know, Sun Java supports 64-bit OS http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/install/system-configurations.html Regards, Michael Leung www.michaelleung.info On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Dave Feustel dfeus...@mindspring.comwrote: I've been running 32-bit F9 and I'm getting ready to

Re: X locks up after a random time

2009-01-02 Thread Rex Dieter
Marko Vojinovic wrote: Ok, this is a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo U9200, with Intel graphics, F10 64bit, updated last week. KDE desktop, compiz and all, but I believe it is not related. Interesting, I'd noticed the same thing over the past few days... hmm (Dell Latitude D620 here). In the

Re: Where are my messages between Dec 20 and yesterday?

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Leung
No Problems for me. I got all messages. Regards, Michael Leung www.michaelleung.info On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Ambrogio De Lorenzo ambrogio.de.lore...@alice.it wrote: Hi all, I didn't received any messages from this list. The last seen was Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:36:30 +0100.

Re: Curiosity -- No JRE package in Fedora 10 ??

2009-01-02 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Kevin Fenzi wrote: There were legal issues (which were overcome), but then FreeMind uses Sun's JAXB to build, which will never be in Fedora. ;( Uh, why? The latest version of JAXB is available under both CDDL and GPLv2, and I don't think it has any internal license incompatibilities the way

Re: Curiosity -- No JRE package in Fedora 10 ??

2009-01-02 Thread Michael Leung
I installed Sun Java Runtime for Linux. On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Matthew Flaschen matthew.flasc...@gatech.edu wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: There were legal issues (which were overcome), but then FreeMind uses Sun's JAXB to build, which will never be in Fedora. ;( Uh, why? The

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 06:55:00PM -0500, Robert L Cochran wrote: That is what I want to see -- far lighter weight batteries ... ... Lithium polymers would be great for this sort of application. They should be linux-friendly, ... First, appliances should be OS-independent; they should talk a

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 20:36 -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: The APC units are still way too heavy and bulky. They are poorly designed, being little more than batteries stuffed into a box that are connected to circuit boards and 120v outlets. Cheap. See above. The most depressing part of all

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Robert L Cochran
Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 20:36 -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: The APC units are still way too heavy and bulky. They are poorly designed, being little more than batteries stuffed into a box that are connected to circuit boards and 120v outlets. Cheap. See

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 22:31 -0500, Robert L Cochran wrote: While these units are too small to be in Craig's link above...it is interesting how the Back-UPS XS-800 and the Back-UPS XS-900, each with a different wattage rating, use the same RBC32 battery cartridge. I wonder if someone has

Re: new F10 kernel borked?

2009-01-02 Thread fred smith
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 08:04:10PM -0500, Ricardo Argüello wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote: Thanks, I'll try that. If that's the case, what would be the proper method of enabling relatime (apparently not simply adding it to /etc/fstab).

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:36:23 -0600 Dave Ihnat wrote: Secondly--as you'll continue to see me state in this post--the problem is that everyone wants cheapest possible. The most interesting thing to me about all so-called uninterruptible power supplies, is how often the most common reason you need

Re: HiJacking Threads Was: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-02 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 09:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Besides, I could never figure out how hitting reply, changing the subject, and changing the body, to create the illusion of a new* message is easier than just actually writing a new message. Only in as much as it avoids the person typing in

Re: APC UPS

2009-01-02 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 23:56 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:36:23 -0600 Dave Ihnat wrote: Secondly--as you'll continue to see me state in this post--the problem is that everyone wants cheapest possible. The most interesting thing to me about all so-called uninterruptible

Re: HiJacking Threads Was: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-02 Thread Marland V. Pittman
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: the In-Reply-To header, not by the Subject, i.e. conforming mail clients pay *no attention* to the Subject header when displaying threads. People who hijack threads and plead that they fixed the Subject line should be told about this so they don't do it again. poc

Re: HiJacking Threads Was: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-02 Thread Todd Zullinger
Marland V. Pittman wrote: There's probably enough room in the text that is appended to each mail to add: Start new messages by sending to: or To send a message: in front of fedora-list@redhat.comor something like that. The list guidelines are included in the footer (as well as on the sign up

Re: sound stops working on F10

2009-01-02 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 13:49 -0700, Phil Meyer wrote: There are several apps, and used to be several more, that still do not play nice with pulseaudio. For me, pidgin was the biggest culprit until a recent update. Long ago, I switched its /playing sounds/ preference to run a particular

Re: Unrecognized Hard Drive

2009-01-02 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 13:24 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I can remember dropping a SCSI drive or two 4 to 6 onto the desk to free it up so it would spin up again. (Drop so it lands flat on its bottom, not sides or ends.) This was often necessary on drives that had run non-stop for years,

Re: hostapd for Fedora 10

2009-01-02 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 00:58 +0800, Fennix wrote: Why does this question often appear on what gmail shows as new threads? That'd be down to the way gmail works, or is configured. Sounds like it's time for you to wade through gmail's configuration options, and read the help for any functions

Yum problem on fedora fc10

2009-01-02 Thread William W. Austin
I have three machines on which I installed fc 10 about 2 weeks ago. Two of them are identical as to hardware and the other is a good deal larger (more memory, more disk space, phenom 4-way cpu) all are x86_64 machines previously running either fc 7, 8, or 9. On two of the machines I wiped the

Re: Jackd Problems -- alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 1227061150613.504 msecs

2009-01-02 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 18:49 -0200, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net wrote: In the past I've never had any problems running jackd. Now I'm getting a very large number of messages reading:

Re: Picture Book....

2009-01-02 Thread Ian Weller
On Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 11:35:17PM -0800, Doug Berry wrote: 4. The most economical option would be to go to the POD publishing source itself, which is Lightning Source. They are the printer/distributor for most of the POD Publishers, including Lulu. The drawback here is that we would have to

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