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* Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080719 15:04]:
Björn Persson wrote:
Has HURD actually become a working kernel?? Ric
Apparently yes:
http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install
The installation instructions sound almost farcically bad.
Agreed. I also find this statement
* Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080720 19:11]:
Les Mikesell wrote:
[snip]
Deliberate? _Everything_ that is not the GPL is incompatible with the GPL.
This one is a clear lie. There are dozens and dozens of GPL compatible
licenses. Any license which has no additional restrictions above
* Björn Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080720 19:52]:
[snip: lots of hairsplitting and otherwise ludicrous statements]
Fedora isn't Linux, it's a Linux distribution, but everyone calls all Linux
distributions Linux, so Fedora should be called Linux even though it
isn't Linux? Is that what
* Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080720 19:42]:
Anders Karlsson wrote:
And any license that does not permit itself to be replaced or
over-ruled by the GPL - is hence incompatible - even if it explicitly
permits combination with the GPL for any derived work or combination
work.
Am I
* Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080720 22:18]:
Anders Karlsson wrote:
[snip]
So the part of the work that is non-GPL licensed, can stay non-GPL
licensed in the combined works and derivatives?
I would differentiate between original and derivative (along with
combined work) here just
* Gordon Messmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080720 22:31]:
Thomas Cameron wrote:
I've never denigrated or minimized GNU's participation in the success of
the Linux operating system, or any other operating systems. No doubt,
the GNU bits are of critical import. But that's not why I commented on
* Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080720 22:42]:
[snip]
Note that he is describing GPL v3. Under V2 (which applies to the
majority of works), nothing can be in a 'work as a whole' unless the
exact terms of GPLv2 apply to all parts. Of course in the case of
pre-existing code already
* Björn Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080721 04:47]:
söndagen den 20 juli 2008 skrev Anders Karlsson:
[snip]
Is it really so hard to grasp that the term Linux can (and does)
mean different things depending on context, who you are talking to,
and the counterparts technical savvy?
It's
* Gordon Messmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080721 08:29]:
[snip]
Language doesn't work that way. If you speak, and your listener doesn't
understand you, then *you* are the one at fault.
[snip]
It's not ones fault when there is a misunderstanding, same as it's not
ones fault there is an argument.
* Ed Greshko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080721 09:25]:
This is more or less a yes or no type of question. And I picked Ric's
position in the thread since, I feel, he is least likely to take offense.
Is this the semi-annual Fedora diarrhea thread where folks pretend to be
lawyers,
* Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080722 04:25]:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:06:35 -0300
Alexandre Oliva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the 3rd time today, 4th in the thread, please see the links into
the blong, at the end of the most recent posting
* Andrew Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080722 13:12]:
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 11:38 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
Do you have a sample config for me to look at? I have some vermin I
want to killfile, and I've not had time to set anything up yet...
If you are using claws then use
Create
* Anders Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080722 14:50]:
* Andrew Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080722 13:12]:
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 11:38 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
Do you have a sample config for me to look at? I have some vermin I
want to killfile, and I've not had time to set anything up
* aakash sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080724 19:17]:
So u mean to say that it's USELESS on FEDORA 9.
I got that.
That's not what I said. I said there were not many things it gave me
recommendations to change.
It's still useful as it'll show you what it is that is waking your
computer up and
* Mike Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080728 21:16]:
Hi all,
Reading the last couple emails from another thread on maybe new list or
two, and to segregate the content to them was brought up and have couple
new list names that might help make sense or to get the ball rolling?
* Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080728 21:48]:
On Monday 28 July 2008 20:15:54 Mike Chambers wrote:
[snip]
Would this help make things better?
In theory, yes. In practice, not unless there is moderator support for
making
sure that non-support threads go to the relevant list.
I'm
* Ed Greshko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080729 09:52]:
David Hláčik wrote:
Hello all,
i have installed Fedora 9 with default english language. Now i want to
switch to Czech Language.
How can i do that :
To have Czech as the default language you can simply edit
/etc/sysconfig/i18n to change
* Ed Greshko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080729 10:48]:
Anders Karlsson wrote:
* Ed Greshko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080729 09:52]:
David Hláčik wrote:
Hello all,
i have installed Fedora 9 with default english language. Now i want
to switch to Czech Language.
How can i do that :
To have Czech
* Vikram Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080729 12:21]:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 09:54:21AM +0100, Christopher Mocock wrote:
Vikram Goyal wrote:
Hello,
I am getting these kernel messages on the consoles which I want to avoid
as many times I have to login through them as the system runs in
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080729 22:11]:
Output from nightly cronjobs is filling root's mailbox quickly,
and sending everything else to /var/spool/mqueue. These are just
status messages (stdout) from the cronjobs which we don't really need
mailed to root. Is there anyway to
* Nigel Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080731 19:24]:
This is the first time that I've used SATA harddrives on this new machine
that
I've built, so am a bit in the dark.
Fedora 8 is using sda1 for / , and sda2 for /home. sda3 is swap
sda4 (the 4th primary is the extended partition)
sda5,
* Aaron Konstam [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080731 22:33]:
Does anyone want to defend the change to ~/Desktop as the default
directory in opened terminals, thus throwing away 20 or 30 years of
Unix, Linux and Microsoft tradition?
You mean you don't have a key-combo that opens a terminal for you? ;-)
* Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080801 10:01]:
Mike mike.cloaked at gmail.com writes:
Has anybody recently made/used an encrypted CD or usbkey in F9?
Just to be clear about my question - this was intended to be
done with luks/dmcrypt
USB key, yes.
I used
* Stephen Berg (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080801 16:09]:
[snip]
Wouldn't setting /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir to
true be the setting to change?
That's even better. :)
I did not see that settings key tbh. I'll have a look at what other
goodies there is to change
* Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080804 14:43]:
What are /dev/dm-0 through to /dev/dm-3? They are listed as block devices,
and owned root:disk. Looking at gkrellm, dm-0 and dm-2 appear to mirror the
activity of my system disk, sdb.
Device mapper device-nodes. Look in /dev/mapper/ and
* Björn Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080823 18:57]:
Rahul Sundaram quoted Paul W. Frields:
[snip]
Disclosure at an inappropriate time gives people the mistaken impression
one is not being truthful, when that's not the case.
The first announcement gave me the impression that there was a
* Björn Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080824 01:38]:
Anders Karlsson wrote:
[snip]
That is a pretty strong statement to make. Not telling everything does
not equate lying - especially when what you are telling (or can tell)
is true. And if all you have is an impression that he
* Miles Sabin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080824 16:39]:
We know nothing of the sort. In fact the RH announcement suggests
exactly the opposite ... why else distribute a script to check for
compromised RHEL packages?
Because some people don't exclusively use RHN ?
/Anders
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* Miles Sabin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080824 19:02]:
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Anders Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Miles Sabin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080824 16:39]:
We know nothing of the sort. In fact the RH announcement suggests
exactly the opposite ... why else distribute
* Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080824 21:42]:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:27:47 -0800
Jeff Spaleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the full details
can not be publicly disclosed instantaneously due to legal constraint
This I simply don't understand.
You do not need to understand, you just need
* Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080824 23:11]:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:19:03 -0700
Bruce Byfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 13:41 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:27:47 -0800
Jeff Spaleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the full details
can not
* Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080825 03:08]:
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
Did we have a communication problem? Maybe.
You make it sound like it was something in the past.
I'd say a week and a half ago fits squarely in the definition of
past.
Does anyone know yet whether or not the intrusion
* Jeff Spaleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080825 05:53]:
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:37:02 -0800
Jeff Spaleta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, while a policy for future incidents would be nice, I don't
set
it as a
* Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080825 19:39]:
Anders Karlsson wrote:
You are making assumptions Les. You don't know how the perpetrator
gained access. (Well, I am assuming you don't, but if you do, feel
free to enlighten the rest of us.)
Agreed - I don't know. And that's a problem when
* Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080826 21:36]:
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 14:39 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 07:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
(Remember: Using Linux also is a political statement)
Maybe. Maybe not.
Well, to newcomer, it's likely not an
* Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080827 21:41]:
On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 11:47 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
[snip]
Umm, the distro does not come with strings attached.
Of cause it does. You might want to have some closer looks into the
details, e.g. think about why you can't find certain SW
* Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080902 19:15]:
Bill Crawford wrote:
When and how did the intrusion occur? How was it initially detected?
*shrug*
I don't actually need to know, so I'm not making a fuss.
Everyone needs to whether or not they are at risk with the same
vulnerability
* Steve Repo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080902 21:09]:
This whole incident has kept the rumors mills very busy and _still_
there isn't been a responsible response from Fedora. An update
(useful) every couple of days on status (what they are working on)
would help users ..after all this is a
* Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080904 05:29]:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 10:30 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
hardest of all find a secure way to provide the public part of the
signing key
The whole point about asymmetric encryption is that you don't need a
secure
* jdow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080905 20:52]:
From: Anders Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 2008, September 05 00:50
* jdow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080905 08:56]:
Suppose I have NO RedHat installed. I have no working computer near
me. I want to install Fedora 9. How do I establish
* Erik P. Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080907 15:10]:
This is all new land for me, so bear with me if the answer is trivial.
I have patched kernel 2.6.23.1-42.fc8 (actually sata_mv.c) to support my sta
disk controller. It works correctly, I can attach my disks make directories
and
store data
* Luc MAIGNAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080909 15:04]:
Hi,
I'm looking for a tool that can import and export music to my iPhone
(because Apple still refuse to port iTunes on Linux !!!). What is the
best tool to do this on Fedora ?
You can try GtkPod or Banshee, but I've not had any luck with
* Marcelo M. Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080909 15:54]:
Luc MAIGNAN wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for a tool that can import and export music to my iPhone
(because Apple still refuse to port iTunes on Linux !!!). What is the
best tool to do this on Fedora ?
BR
Hi
I don't have iPhone, but
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