Re: [Fedora-legal-list] amap license

2010-01-07 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 01/06/2010 08:10 PM, Michal Ambroz wrote: Hello dear list members, I would like to ask whether the amap license and amap program itself would be eligible to be included in the Fedora. Tool is opensource with license based on GPLv2 with additional restrictions, but I am not sure whether

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] amap license

2010-01-07 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 01/07/2010 01:40 PM, Julius Davies wrote: Hi, Tom, Limiting ourselves to copyright (ignoring patents and trademarks and other IP), in general would you say a copyright license must either? 1. Be Free according to FSF: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html or 2. Be Open

Re: Our static Libraries packaging guidelines once more

2010-01-05 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 01/05/2010 11:30 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 11:03 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: On the other hand, with the guideline being so widely ignored, I'm not in a hurry to do work to comply with it ... Isn't that a chicken/egg problem? It really is. I mean, we could create the

Re: Heads-up: %define vs %global in specs

2010-01-05 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 01/05/2010 11:50 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: What exactly do you mean 'no longer work' ? Can we expect to get a formal RPM build error for this bogus construct, or will it silently build and do the wrong thing ? From your long description, it sounds like the latter, which means

Re: Our static Libraries packaging guidelines once more

2010-01-05 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 01/05/2010 12:08 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: Not for all packaging policies, but for some I think that would be a good idea. Pick a set of policies we think are particularly important to enforce can be automatically checked, and declare any non-compliant ones will be dropped in the next

Re: Our static Libraries packaging guidelines once more

2010-01-05 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 01/05/2010 12:27 PM, Tom Lane wrote: But there's a general issue that new things keep getting added to the packaging guidelines and there's no very good mechanism to detect whether existing packages ever get updated to comply. You're right. I'm hopeful that the items which can be checked

Re: Our static Libraries packaging guidelines once more

2010-01-05 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 01/05/2010 12:23 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 12:16:13PM -0500, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 01/05/2010 12:08 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: Not for all packaging policies, but for some I think that would be a good idea. Pick a set of policies we think

Re: orphaning gwibber, any takers?

2010-01-04 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 01/04/2010 04:25 PM, Ian Weller wrote: I know Gwibber is widely used by Fedora users because there are a crapton of abrt reports for it and I just can't keep up with it. :) Let me know if you have a desire for maintaining Gwibber in Fedora. From what I've heard, a release of 2.30 is on

Re: Fedora Linux Format software review: January 2010

2009-12-31 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/30/2009 02:15 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: It would be nice if others could join in (be it virtual not necessarily physically). So are there any takers for this ? It might be useful to have a wiki page listing out the specific content items which need to be replaced. ~spot --

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] java-gnome: GPLv2 with a classpath exception like statement

2009-12-31 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/31/2009 08:17 AM, Alexander Boström wrote: Hello, I'd like to ask someone to have a look at the license for java-gnome, the GNOME Java bindings: http://research.operationaldynamics.com/bzr/java-gnome/mainline/LICENCE I'm hoping it can be added to the acceptable licenses list.

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/30/2009 03:58 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Daniel Drake wrote: The upstream library is already in Fedora as a shared library. I guess the approach I will take is to install our audited version as a shared library under a different name (libtommath_olpc?) which the components will then

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/30/2009 05:01 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Tom spot Callaway wrote: FWIW, I'm pretty sure this is not against current Fedora policies, assuming that the libtommath maintainer signs off on it and there is no conflict between the two packages. I guess it's indeed not against the letter

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Trusster Open Source License

2009-12-30 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/30/2009 01:53 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, Could you please clarify if the Trusster [1] Open Source License is an acceptable Free/Open Source Software License for the Fedora project. The Teal [2] project uses this license: The Trusster Open Source License is Free, but GPL

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/23/2009 01:38 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: As the patent license is non-Free, Moonlight still has to be considered non- Free wherever software patents apply. So as far as I can tell, this is not acceptable for Fedora, sorry. (But of course spot and/or RH Legal will have the final word.)

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/23/2009 01:56 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: On 23/12/09 18:46, Tom spot Callaway wrote: With that said, this new covenant does NOT change our stance on Moonlight. It is still not permissible in Fedora. Can I ask on what grounds? Is the patent license insufficient, or is there some other

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/23/2009 02:10 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: On 23/12/09 18:58, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 12/23/2009 01:56 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: Can I ask on what grounds? Is the patent license insufficient, or is there some other problem? It's difficult to fix things if we don't know what's broken

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] TAPR Open Hardware License

2009-12-23 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/12/2009 12:54 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, --- On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: | Umm... this license isn't a copyright license, nor is it useful for | software, fonts, or content. What are you trying to do with it? \-- Would like

Re: mono and snk key files

2009-12-20 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/19/2009 11:03 AM, Christopher Brown wrote: 2009/12/15 Adam Goode a...@spicenitz.org: On 12/13/2009 06:16 AM, Christopher Brown wrote: 2009/12/11 Adam Goode a...@spicenitz.org: We should definitely use Debian's key, right? Otherwise some Fedora CLI libraries would be unnecessarily

Re: Fwd: rpms/perl/devel perl.spec,1.246,1.247

2009-12-18 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/18/2009 10:29 PM, Chris Weyl wrote: I could go either way on this; but I think we should pick an approach and stick with it, unless there's compelling reasons otherwise... And the current approach seems to be working well. Also... Even if we exclude these modules w/o providing them

Re: Fwd: rpms/perl/devel perl.spec,1.246,1.247

2009-12-18 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/19/2009 12:07 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Also... Even if we exclude these modules w/o providing them as sub-packages, we ought to ensure that they're still pulled in by perl-core (and perl itself, when we make the perl-core/perl/perl-minimal switch). What you say doesn't make sense:

Re: review request - rasmol, Molecular Graphics Visualization Tool

2009-12-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/24/2009 10:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: But I dunno if there's a policy requirement that you should anyway. FWIW, the policy says: If a package contains a GUI application, then it needs to also include a properly installed .desktop file. For the purposes of these guidelines, a GUI

Re: 190 packages with .la file(s)

2009-12-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/30/2009 08:42 AM, Pierre-Yves wrote: gambas2-2.18.0-1.fc12.src.rpm Gambas is... special. It needs these .la files to function. ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] TAPR Open Hardware License

2009-12-11 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/11/2009 02:38 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, I would like to know if TAPR Open Hardware License is an acceptable license for Fedora: http://www.tapr.org/ohl.html Please clarify. Thanks! Umm... this license isn't a copyright license, nor is it useful for software, fonts, or

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Spin commercial license

2009-12-11 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/08/2009 01:50 PM, Jerry James wrote: Is this license acceptable for Fedora (assuming a copy is provided with the package, as required by the license)? Nope. Non-free. ~spot ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com

[Fedora-legal-list] Re: Fwd: Forking libtar and licensing it as LGPL

2009-12-10 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/09/2009 09:17 AM, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote: Hi All, I maintain the libtar package for some time now. However it seems that the upstream author is no longer responding to any patch requests and is also no longer interesting in maintaining the package any more. I have therefore forked

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: sRGB ICC profiles in Fedora

2009-12-06 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/05/2009 07:50 PM, Adam Goode wrote: On 12/05/2009 05:00 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 12/04/2009 05:28 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/12/4 Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com: I have a legal question regarding distributing Abobe RGB ICC profiles in Fedora. Another email about

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Including of MARS code in cryptopp package

2009-12-05 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/04/2009 01:38 PM, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi All, There is IBM implementation of MARS code in cryptopp 5.6.0 an it was removed from Fedora cryptopp package. But SVN 479 version of cryptopp contains mars.cpp that was written and placed in the public domain by Wei Dai.

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] 12 dynamic GPL link problems

2009-12-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/03/2009 02:48 AM, Julius Davies wrote: I think I might have found 12 problems with code that dynamically links into GPL code. First of all, thank you for your help! It is certainly not Fedora's intention to have any GPL incompatibility scenarios. I will look into each case and determine

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] openpkg license for specs?

2009-12-01 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 12/01/2009 06:42 AM, Alan Pevec wrote: Hi all, there's proposed spec in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541744#c1 with the license which is not listed in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#SoftwareLicenses ## liboping.spec -- OpenPKG RPM Package Specification ##

Re: Question about tagging

2009-11-18 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/18/2009 10:29 AM, Rick L. Vinyard, Jr. wrote: Shouldn't I be getting f13 tags with make tag? If you run: cvs update -d in the top level checkout directory, you will. ;) ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Local users get to play root?

2009-11-18 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/18/2009 08:22 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: [At the risk of letting this get lost in the shuffle of this thread...] Seth Vidal wrote: If there are pkgs which run daemons which are defaulting to ON when installed or on next reboot - then we should be auditing those pkgs. Last I checked we

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] eclipse and php require GPLV2+

2009-11-18 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/18/2009 12:31 PM, Julius Davies wrote: I put together a list of all pertinent Provides entries on the FC11 i386 DVD that can be satisfied in more than one way. The list is pretty small (25 entries) since I discarded things that never show up in Requires. Any tips on how I should choose

Re: Package name conflict: eina, the media player or optimized data types and useful tools for e-17.

2009-11-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/12/2009 12:06 AM, Ding Yi Chen wrote: Hi, I've tried to build e-17 by hand. When I try to build from eina from e-17, however, I found that the package name, eina, is already been taken by eina, the media player. How should I do with them? Off the top of my head, I'd suggest

Re: id3lib stack smashing

2009-11-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/12/2009 01:39 PM, Adrian Reber wrote: There is ubuntu bug report against id3lib libid3 crashes (stack smashing) when reading VBR MP3 file[1]. I am able to reproduce this on ubuntu but not on Fedora and I do not understand why. The patch[2] looks like it is doing the right thing but there

Re: ilbsndfile update!

2009-11-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/14/2009 05:59 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Hi folks, After getting okays from a few folks I decided to fix the long standing libsndfile bugs. One of these was a request [1] to split the utilities that come with libsndfile into a utils subpackage. I did this only for F-13. Since

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] License tag to use for CC0 1.0 Universal?

2009-11-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/17/2009 02:01 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: TC == Tom \spot\ Callaway tcall...@redhat.com writes: TC It probably merits a separate entry, because it is a rather thorough TC public domain declaration. Does this have any of the issues that public domain has with respect to people

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] ChemDoodle Web Components license

2009-11-16 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/12/2009 05:57 AM, Gianluca Sforna wrote: Hi, I'm having a look at packaging ChemDoodle Web Components, a Javascript set of classes to manage chemical structures in web pages. Now, the license is GPLv3+ but they have an additional exception detailed in:

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] license for plpa

2009-11-16 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/13/2009 06:06 PM, Steve Traylen wrote: Hi, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530230 has been blocked on FE-Legal for sometime. It looks fine bsd'ish but has a lot of extra text. In fact as mentioned in the review this code is already in Fedora as a private library

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Photographs of hardware in Fedora documentation

2009-11-16 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/15/2009 11:04 PM, Ruediger Landmann wrote: The new Fedora Wireless Guide includes photographs of different types of wireless adapter: http://sradvan.fedorapeople.org/Wireless_Guide/en-US/html-single/#sect-Wireless_Guide-Hardware-Types_Of_Cards In each case, the manufacturer's logos

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Linking an LGPL library statically to an GPL program

2009-11-16 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/17/2009 12:37 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Yes but you are missing one thing. The library is LGPLv2. It is not LGPLv2+. Doesn't it make the resultant binary GPLv2, without the + ? Well, the text of the LGPL says: You may opt to apply the terms of the ordinary GNU General Public License

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] eclipse and php require GPLV2+

2009-11-11 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/11/2009 06:40 PM, Julius Davies wrote: Hi, I was looking at the some of the dependencies generated by AutoReqProv in the RPMS in Fedora 11 and I noticed the following: eclipse-swt (epl) requires: libxpcom.so provided-by: nspluginwrapper (gplv2+) This is actually linked to

Re: Rpmlint does not like my license

2009-11-08 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/09/2009 07:42 AM, Igshaan Mesias wrote: Hi Everyone I've packaged the M+ collection of fonts. I've not yet submitted a review because I am unsure about what to label the 'License' tag in spec file given its authors have simply put the license as follows:

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] RE: [SPAM] Fedora-legal-list Digest, Vol 29, Issue 3

2009-11-08 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/07/2009 06:32 AM, th...@threethirty.us wrote: Wouldn't the term Some Rights Reserved work in its place? It still looks official (which is why I assume it is there), and I know the Creative Commons Project loves that wording. Sure, but it would be better to drop it altogether. ~spot

Re: Wine or Fedora display problem?

2009-11-08 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/09/2009 03:15 AM, Beartooth wrote: Meanwhile, of course, Wine has grown and developed mightily -- though anything using a serial port, as my Garmin GPSs all do, has always lagged behind. FWIW, newer Garmin GPS units don't use a serial port anymore, they act like USB Mass Storage

Re: help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32

2009-11-04 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/03/2009 03:23 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 11/03/2009 02:16 PM, Jerry James wrote: My guess (and it is just a guess) is that this is triggering multiple initializations of portaudio. Try this patch: Well, it turned out to be a lot more complicated than that. Alienarena uses OpenAL

Re: help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32

2009-11-04 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/04/2009 05:26 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 16:12:40 -0500, Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/03/2009 03:23 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: Well, it turned out to be a lot more complicated than that. Alienarena uses OpenAL-soft, which dlopens

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/03/2009 09:13 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: Dne 3.11.2009 02:55, King InuYasha napsal(a): The only thing I can figure out from this conversation is that the CDDL is supposed to be incompatible with the GPL. If that's the case, why not simply ask the original creator to kindly dual license it?

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/03/2009 09:52 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de said: -Redhat continues to distribute cdrkit although there are known legal problems with it and Redhat has been informed more that once about this fact. it is Red

help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32

2009-11-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
I need to rebuild alienarena for all targets due to a security issue, so I decided to update to 7.32, but unfortunately, the 7.32 build segfaults immediately on Fedora 12 (x86_64), and gdb isn't much help (gdb output is at the bottom). Now, it is worth noting that the alienarena client does

Re: help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32

2009-11-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/03/2009 12:16 PM, David Malcolm wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 11:45 -0500, Tom spot Callaway wrote: I need to rebuild alienarena for all targets due to a security issue, so I decided to update to 7.32, but unfortunately, the 7.32 build segfaults immediately on Fedora 12 (x86_64), and gdb

Re: help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32

2009-11-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/03/2009 02:16 PM, Jerry James wrote: This seems to happen only when portaudio is installed. Uninstall portaudio and alienarena starts up. I'm not sure exactly what is going on here, but it seems that alienarena is both trying to dlopen libopenal, and is linked against it. Check it:

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] XSkat license

2009-11-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/02/2009 04:53 PM, Christian Krause wrote: Is this license acceptable for Fedora too and if yes, what should I put in RPM's License tag? If (and only if) clause 2.b is used instead of clause 2.a (the license explicitly gives you a choice), then the license is Free but GPL incompatible.

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Hopefully simple GPL licensing question re Netomata

2009-11-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/03/2009 04:25 PM, David Nalley wrote: So I started looking at packaging Netomata ( http://www.netomata.com/products/ncg ) and came across something that raises a flag. The author is also at a conference with me this week, so I figured the face time would be a good time to request a

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

2009-11-02 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/02/2009 05:23 AM, Liang Suilong wrote: Thank you for hard work. Crhomium browser in Fedora 12 looks perfect. Is there any plan to push chromium into rawhide or updates-testing. I think chromium has enough stability to make more users test itself. Not until Chromium comes out of beta and

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-02 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/02/2009 03:47 PM, Denis Leroy wrote: On 11/02/2009 07:18 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: That may be true, but since cdrecord is not shippable, it's a pretty vacuous truth. Out of curiosity, was that just because of the GPL2-CDDL mix ? Or was there another reason ? Last I checked, only

Re: Font rendering slightly degraded in recent rawhide

2009-11-02 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 11/02/2009 04:26 PM, Rajeesh K Nambiar wrote: I did even contact Mr. Chuck Bigelow to find out any possibility of licensing Luxi fonts under an open source license, when Fedora decided to drop them. For what it is worth, when we dropped them, I contacted the upstream copyright holder as

Re: rawhide report: 20091030 changes

2009-10-30 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 10/30/2009 11:00 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: 1:nant-0.85-30.fc12.i686 requires mono(NDoc.Core) = 0:1.3.3498.0 This one still needs attention from a Mono person to fix the rebuild. (A rebuild would be all that's needed, but the problem is that it's failing to build.

Re: rawhide report: 20091030 changes

2009-10-30 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 10/30/2009 12:03 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 10/30/2009 11:00 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: 1:nant-0.85-30.fc12.i686 requires mono(NDoc.Core) = 0:1.3.3498.0 This one still needs attention from a Mono person to fix the rebuild. (A rebuild would be all that's needed, but the problem

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

2009-10-29 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 10/29/2009 09:09 AM, Liang Suilong wrote: And then, Tom 'spot' Callaway has not pushed a new upgrade for chromium browser. But I do not want to disturbing him. I just wait for him silently. Haha! There is a reason for the delay: http://spot.livejournal.com/311443.html The good news

[Fedora-legal-list] Re: New blog post

2009-10-07 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 10/07/2009 03:10 PM, Colby Hoke wrote: I understand all of that. I'm saying what if someone else cuts it up and each time he mentions developers, he suddenly says Nazis. (Yeah I went there, I'm just saying...) I tend to believe that the people who want to make disgusting and hateful remixes

Re: New blog post

2009-10-07 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 10/07/2009 03:10 PM, Colby Hoke wrote: I understand all of that. I'm saying what if someone else cuts it up and each time he mentions developers, he suddenly says Nazis. (Yeah I went there, I'm just saying...) I tend to believe that the people who want to make disgusting and hateful remixes

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: [publican-list] Adjusting copyright information

2009-10-06 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 10/06/2009 02:01 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: We need this license to be compatible with inclusion in works produced by Fedora Docs, and in works that incorporate content from the Fedora wiki, right? If CC0 can coexist peacefully in that role with the new CC licensing used in both those

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: [publican-list] Adjusting copyright information

2009-10-06 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 10/06/2009 02:46 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 02:14:12PM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 10/06/2009 02:01 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: We need this license to be compatible with inclusion in works produced by Fedora Docs, and in works that incorporate content from

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: can Libertine fonts be embedded in non-gpl application?

2009-09-22 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/19/2009 02:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 09/19/2009 08:17 PM, Brandon Casey wrote: I am interested in embedding the Libertine font within an application at work, so that this application can produce documents using the Libertine font. The target systems will not have the Libertine

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: can Libertine fonts be embedded in non-gpl application?

2009-09-22 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/19/2009 02:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 09/19/2009 08:17 PM, Brandon Casey wrote: I am interested in embedding the Libertine font within an application at work, so that this application can produce documents using the Libertine font. The target systems will not have the Libertine

Re: Bug buddy and gnomebreakpad

2009-09-10 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/10/2009 06:36 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: should get rid of it. The harder question is where to put that command... %post for abrt-gui ? :) ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Rawhide fonts problem report for 2009-09-06

2009-09-08 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/08/2009 01:50 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le mardi 08 septembre 2009 à 09:11 +0800, Yuan Yijun a écrit : Hi, The package wine-fonts is not mentioned, why? Excellent question, it certainly should have been, and I have no idea why. Maybe it was not present in the source repo I used¹

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-08 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/08/2009 11:10 AM, Peter Jones wrote: There's a related problem here - glibc32 . I don't think we distribute glibc32. ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-04 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/04/2009 03:06 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: Also for there to be a security issue, there needs to be an attack vector, and during early userspace, there is very little attack vector, no other programs are running, no network interfaces are up, etc. I suppose this would be somewhat difficult

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Wiki page : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_print_magazine_proposal

2009-09-04 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/04/2009 02:51 PM, Paul wrote: Here I'd disagree. While for software, folks are happy for anyone to use it as they like. However, for written work, people become protective. It is better have something which says by contributing this piece, you are giving Fedora to publish once and

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 10:57 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: It really is like having to support gentoo, versus having to support a distro using pre build packages. And I would really like to move to the having to support a pre-build package model for the initrd. The problem is this: The kernel binary RPM

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 11:35 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: The kernel binary RPM contains this pre-built initrd. The kernel source RPM does not contain the sources necessary to make this pre-built initrd. This makes me rather uncomfortable from a Licensing perspective. True, but we do provide SRPMS with

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 02:20 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: Regeneration is as easy with dracut as it is with mkinitrd, actually they have the same cmdline syntax. The only extra step required with dracut when using pre-generated images is: yum install dracut Okay, so is there any reason why we don't

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 02:25 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: Note that we have the same problem with any package which does static linking against an lgpl library (such as glibc). This is (one of the big reasons) why we only permit static linking with explicit approval from FESCo. I'm really very

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 04:59 PM, Roland McGrath wrote: Koji's database has that information, sort of. It can tell you exactly which other packages were installed in the buildroot, so that is the superset of what-all bits could have been rolled into the output. Yes, but I do not think we are in good

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 05:46 PM, Roland McGrath wrote: The requirement is to provide a written offer to give someone the source when they ask. Well, that's true for GPL. Can someone generate a list of the binaries used in the generic initrd and the packages that they came from? ~spot --

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 06:14 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: We don't distribute under that clause of the GPL, because the 3 year timeline on it is entirely too vague and we don't want to fall into that trap. Ugh. I had conveniently forgotten about that, thanks for the reminder. ~spot -- fedora-devel-list

Re: [Fedora-r-devel-list] collaborating on ggplot2 ?

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 04:27 AM, Martyn Plummer wrote: Thanks for finding this. I passed this message on to the CRAN maintainers (CRAN also distributes binaries for Windows and Mac OS X) who also contacted the SparseM package author. The good news is that Mr. Betten is still at ANL, and he replied

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Directory draft (was Re: Triggers just to avoid unowned directories?)

2009-09-02 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/02/2009 11:47 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Michel Alexandre Salim (michael.silva...@gmail.com) said: Multi-ownership seems *far* preferable to me than using triggers to move files around, or moving a prelink-specific directory to the base filesystem package. Then the guidelines should

Re: Triggers just to avoid unowned directories?

2009-09-01 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/01/2009 09:34 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: rpm could start refcounting directories any day now and that'd be just fine. Is there an open trac ticket on this issue with the RPM upstream? ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Triggers just to avoid unowned directories?

2009-09-01 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/01/2009 11:34 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 11:10 -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 09/01/2009 09:34 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: rpm could start refcounting directories any day now and that'd be just fine. Is there an open trac ticket on this issue with the RPM upstream

Re: Commas not allowed in License tags

2009-09-01 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/01/2009 11:53 AM, Iain Arnell wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Tom spot Callawaytcall...@redhat.com wrote: [snip] Yes... this is all correct. Any package that is using commas in the license field should have a bug opened against it. Unless it's Redistributable, no

Review needed for libtnc

2009-09-01 Thread Tom spot Callaway
Hi folks, I need this package reviewed so that I can fix the broken dep on xsupplicant in rawhide: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501017 I'd be happy to do a review trade, just let me know. Thanks, ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Correction: #! /usr/bin/perl NOT preferred

2009-08-31 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/31/2009 11:28 AM, Jan Pazdziora wrote: So, is /usr/bin/env the preferred one, or is it the same in preference with /usr/bin/perl? I would not say that either is preferred. IMHO, you should leave upstream scripts in place, as long as they use either /usr/bin/env perl or /usr/bin/perl.

Re: Policy on removing %changelog entries?

2009-08-27 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/27/2009 01:21 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: What is the policy regarding deletion of individual entries in the middle of %changelog? A developer added a %changelog entry to each of my cloud daemons' packages, on the main fedora-cvs devel branch of each. Then, a day or so later, after other

Re: Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature

2009-08-27 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/27/2009 12:11 PM, John J. McDonough wrote: Alex Hudson wrote: Living in a European milieu I generally prefer my page sizes to be set to the likes of A4. One thing which keeps aggravating me is the myriad places where I keep having to repeat to the computer my preference. And then in

Re: Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature

2009-08-27 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/27/2009 02:18 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: I think that's a brilliant idea. I'll undertake to do this in the next couple of weeks - I'll work on the F12 set first, because obviously that's going to be very similar to F13 anyway. Am I ok to re-activate the localisation feature for F13, or

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting

2009-08-21 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/20/2009 10:10 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: Apologies for the late agenda, I completely blanked out today :(. The following are the topics for tomorrow's meeting at 17:00UTC on #fedora-meeting on freenode: 244 Reconsider Moblin Feature for Fedora 12 238 Can libvdpau go in Fedora? For

Re: our perl-core on p5p

2009-08-21 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/18/2009 08:17 AM, Stepan Kasal wrote: (The term perl-minimal would go nicely along with our vim-minimal and Debian's python-minimal and php-minimal. But vim-minimal is not required by vim-enhanced. And Debian does not use perl-minimal; perhaps perl-base predates the other *-minimal

Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal

2009-08-19 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/06/2009 04:39 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: After requesting status updates, including direct email to the feature owners, the following feature pages do not have a current status or their ability to tested during the Alpha is unclear based on the lack of information provided or

Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10

2009-08-19 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/10/2009 12:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: spot:BADSOURCE:chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Bookletter_1.zip:oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts Not sure why this failed. I confirmed that the .zip file available from the site is identical to the one in the lookaside. spot:BADSOURCE:daa2iso.zip:daa2iso Fixed

Moksha/Fedora Community Planning Meetings

2009-08-19 Thread Tom spot Callaway
The Fedora Community (and Moksha) efforts have a regular public meeting at 1400 UTC every Monday. We invite interested parties to participate in our meeting. You can join our meeting via Fedora Talk, extension 2001. For more information about Fedora Talk, see: http://talk.fedoraproject.org/ Our

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/17/2009 11:49 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: This would make sense to me. Do consumers of openal not make use of the pkgconfig files? If not, do they use configure scripts that make it easy to do this? In the case of my package which uses openal (alienarean), it dlopens the openal

Re: our perl-core on p5p

2009-08-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/17/2009 09:21 AM, Stepan Kasal wrote: I see no change that would significantly improve our overall image and thus I would stay with the current state, which at least minimizes the surprises. I'm not sure that it does. Right now, perl-core installs everything that comes with the perl

Re: our perl-core on p5p

2009-08-17 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/17/2009 12:42 PM, Stepan Kasal wrote: perl-core installs perl+core, i.e. the perl interpreter plus all the core modules. So I see _some_ logic behind that. Well, I like to think that I tried to put some logic behind it originally, but I think this is a better logic. :) I still think

Proposed F12 perl cleanups

2009-08-15 Thread Tom spot Callaway
Out of the thread on p5p, I'd like to propose the following changes for F-12: * Rename perl-core to perl * Rename perl to perl-minimal The biggest change here is that there are still packages which Require: perl, usually to specify a specific minimal version. Here is a list of rawhide packages

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Fedora and MS-PL (Dynamic Language Runtime)

2009-08-14 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/14/2009 10:49 PM, C.J. Adams-Collier wrote: Hey all, We (the Debian CLI Libraries Team) are packaging IronRuby, IronPython and the Dynamic Language Runtime for Debian. Much of the source in this package is released under the Microsoft Public License:

Re: our perl-core on p5p

2009-08-14 Thread Tom spot Callaway
or on p5p. Thanks, Tom spot Callaway -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl Fedora-perl-devel-list mailing list Fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-perl-devel-list

Re: F-11: system-config-printer -- windows printer -- You are not authorized to carry out the requested action

2009-08-08 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/08/2009 07:52 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 08/08/09 12:53, Gregory Hosler wrote: Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 08/08/09 12:37, Gregory Hosler wrote: The printer is attached to a windows box. At the time of running system-config-printer, the windows box is on. This

Re: No sound in rawhide

2009-08-08 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/08/2009 06:15 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: I take it known problem already? Have anything to do with the boxes on the panel in the notification area being there instead of the device icons? Don't assume it is a known problem. Search bugzilla to see if you can find the same bug already

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