Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-28 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 14:35 +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 06:22 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > OK - so next time, instead of removing 'AuthInfoRequired negotiate' I > > would be better off changing it to 'AuthInfoRequired none' - got it. > > No, I don't think that will have any ef

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-28 Thread Tim Waugh
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 06:22 -0700, Craig White wrote: > OK - so next time, instead of removing 'AuthInfoRequired negotiate' I > would be better off changing it to 'AuthInfoRequired none' - got it. No, I don't think that will have any effect; the smb backend will still reset it to 'negotiate'. The

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-28 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 13:58 +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 15:58 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > We'll get to the bottom of it - and I'm pretty patient and suspect that > > Tim will sound off in a few days. > > :-) > > This is a samba bug, introduced by the upstream CUPS maintainer

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-28 Thread Tim Waugh
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 15:58 -0700, Craig White wrote: > We'll get to the bottom of it - and I'm pretty patient and suspect that > Tim will sound off in a few days. :-) This is a samba bug, introduced by the upstream CUPS maintainer when he added proxy authentication support to smbspool: https://

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-28 Thread Tim Waugh
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 09:39 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I have yet to find out how you can configure a computer to print to > printers distributed by a remote print serve as well as a local printer > without editing its cupsd.conf file. Any suggestions? Use CUPS browsing (Aaron, I'm sure we've b

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-27 Thread g
tioning what all you had tried to print with. but if you were going to google anything, why not google the relevant keywords... googleing for; cups AuthInfoRequired negotiate }> From: Andy Eager tpg.com.au> }> Subject: F9 - cups - windows shared printer }> Newsgroups: gmane.lin

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-26 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 19:08 +1000, Andy Eager wrote: > OK, for anyone interested (and as a way of documenting the problem), I > finally got to the bottom of this issue. > It has absolutely nothing to do with users, groups, cups authentication, > Firefox or much else discussed in this thread!! >

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-26 Thread Andy Eager
OK, for anyone interested (and as a way of documenting the problem), I finally got to the bottom of this issue. It has absolutely nothing to do with users, groups, cups authentication, Firefox or much else discussed in this thread!! I was using ipp as the printing protocol to talk to the printe

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 18:56 +, g wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > leap to conclusions do we? > > only when information is left out. > > > 1 - it's not only with Firefox...problem originally surfaced printing > > you were not elicit of evolution. > > > 2 - why on earth would you think that

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread g
Craig White wrote: leap to conclusions do we? only when information is left out. 1 - it's not only with Firefox...problem originally surfaced printing you were not elicit of evolution. 2 - why on earth would you think that this problem doesn't show up on in my curiousness of problem i

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 18:14 +, g wrote: > Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > The group of the user and firefox is irrelevant. > > anyway, i added '' only because i had added 'firefox'. > > maybe in case of 'lp' at this time. yet back when i set up cups in > mandrake 8 and 9, it was necessary. it was

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread g
Aaron Konstam wrote: The group of the user and firefox is irrelevant. anyway, i added '' only because i had added 'firefox'. maybe in case of 'lp' at this time. yet back when i set up cups in mandrake 8 and 9, it was necessary. it was also necessary that i was in 'sane' and 'xsane' group. fo

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Tim wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 19:01 -0700, Craig White wrote: It's no different than adding myself to lp group. While that might allow me to print, it doesn't really solve the problem and I can get it to print anyway. It does raise the point that some definition of what some system groups a

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 15:58 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 22:52 +, g wrote: > > Craig White wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:21 +, g wrote: > > >> Craig White wrote: > > >> > > >>> I hope that you won't mind that I will continue to ignore your > > >>

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 20:51 +, g wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > came back when I tried to print from Firefox... > > so maybe you *and* firefox need to be in 'lp' group. > > > -- > > tc,hago. > The group of the user and firefox is irrelevant. > --

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-25 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 19:01 -0700, Craig White wrote: > It's no different than adding myself to lp group. While that might > allow me to print, it doesn't really solve the problem and I can get > it to print anyway. It does raise the point that some definition of what some system groups are meant

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 01:24 +, g wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > of course not because if it was there, you would be complaining. > > yet for some reason, he is on who is not having a problem. > > why? i do not know. do you? > > > people should ignore geleem's request > > what is wrong w

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread g
Aldo Foot wrote: He's just stirring things up to start another 100-message thread, eh? ;-) not even. just trying to learn and understand. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redha

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread g
Craig White wrote: of course not because if it was there, you would be complaining. yet for some reason, he is on who is not having a problem. why? i do not know. do you? people should ignore geleem's request what is wrong with a survey? even if you do not care to hear of others good for

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Aldo Foot
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 17:19 -0700, Aldo Foot wrote: >> > also, a request for others who are using cups, if they would check >> > cupsd.conf and printers.conf files to see if authentication line >> > is present. >> >> I use CU

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 17:19 -0700, Aldo Foot wrote: > > also, a request for others who are using cups, if they would check > > cupsd.conf and printers.conf files to see if authentication line > > is present. > > I use CUPs (F8). No AuthInfoRequired line present. of course not because if it wa

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Aldo Foot
> also, a request for others who are using cups, if they would check > cupsd.conf and printers.conf files to see if authentication line > is present. I use CUPs (F8). No AuthInfoRequired line present. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread g
Craig White wrote: We'll get to the bottom of it - and I'm pretty patient and suspect that Tim will sound off in a few days. in all sincerity, i do wish you much luck. this weekend i hope to get f9 respin burned and installed. i will be setting up cups with 3 printers and do look forward to s

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 22:52 +, g wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:21 +, g wrote: > >> Craig White wrote: > >> > >>> I hope that you won't mind that I will continue to ignore your > >>> suggestions thinking that they are not useful and even if they worked, >

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread g
Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:21 +, g wrote: Craig White wrote: I hope that you won't mind that I will continue to ignore your suggestions thinking that they are not useful and even if they worked, that isn't the intended behavior and thus no solution at all. not at all.

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:21 +, g wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > I hope that you won't mind that I will continue to ignore your > > suggestions thinking that they are not useful and even if they worked, > > that isn't the intended behavior and thus no solution at all. > > not at all. what e

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread g
Craig White wrote: I hope that you won't mind that I will continue to ignore your suggestions thinking that they are not useful and even if they worked, that isn't the intended behavior and thus no solution at all. not at all. what ever churns your butter. if such an easy change is too much f

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 20:51 +, g wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > came back when I tried to print from Firefox... > > so maybe you *and* firefox need to be in 'lp' group. I hope that you won't mind that I will continue to ignore your suggestions thinking that they are not useful and ev

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread g
Craig White wrote: came back when I tried to print from Firefox... so maybe you *and* firefox need to be in 'lp' group. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/list

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 00:05 +1000, Andy Eager wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 23:48 +1000, Andy Eager wrote: > > > > > > > > As for Andy...I have not seen it reappear by itself even after printing > > > > but I don't print all that much. Thus I don't see much need in patc

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread g
Craig White wrote: The problem isn't with authentication, the problem is that somehow the printer configuration inherited an authentication requirement when there was no desire or action for it to do so. how ever, what ever, did put it in there. in one form of reasoning, should every user be a

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread g
Andy Eager wrote: I have no idea how this crap got into cups or even why authentication should be necessary to print locally. Anyway, it has nothing to do with the security deny/allow stuff in cupsd.conf this got me wondering. craig, have you give thought to *group*? because problem is with

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 23:48 +1000, Andy Eager wrote: > > As for Andy...I have not seen it reappear by itself even after printing > > but I don't print all that much. Thus I don't see much need in patching > > source and recompiling (seems to be overkill). > > > If it's not reappearing then you'

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Andy Eager
Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 13:21 +, g wrote: Andy Eager wrote: I have no idea how this crap got into cups or even why authentication should be necessary to print locally. Anyway, it has nothing to do with the security deny/allow stuff in cupsd.conf this got me

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 13:21 +, g wrote: > Andy Eager wrote: > > > I have no idea how this crap got into cups or even why authentication > > should be necessary to print locally. > > Anyway, it has nothing to do with the security deny/allow stuff in > > cupsd.conf > > this got me wondering. >

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Andy Eager
Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 23:48 +1000, Andy Eager wrote: As for Andy...I have not seen it reappear by itself even after printing but I don't print all that much. Thus I don't see much need in patching source and recompiling (seems to be overkill). If it's not reappe

F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-24 Thread Andy Eager
and guess what The AuthInfoRequired line will keep re-appearing. It is written there by cupsd Remove the line, restart cups and you'll be able to print once. If you want to print again, you'll need to restart cups. I've spent more than a day solving this. Ended up downloading the cups-1.3.8-

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-22 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 21:12 -0700, Craig White wrote: > Obviously I try to stay away from editing the cups config files by > hand > because they tend to get trampled on by cups configuration tools > (http://localhost:631) or via system-config-printer (which finally > seems > to live in peace alongs

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-22 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 14:19 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > I routinely set up cups to offer print queues for users whether Linux > > (automatic discovery, automatic setup), Macintosh (via cups or via > > netatalk) and Windows (via Samba, providing APW) and cups has been a

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-22 Thread Timothy Murphy
Craig White wrote: > I routinely set up cups to offer print queues for users whether Linux > (automatic discovery, automatic setup), Macintosh (via cups or via > netatalk) and Windows (via Samba, providing APW) and cups has been a > remarkable print server/service with very few problems. Just a b

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-21 Thread g
Craig White wrote: sometimes, I haven't a clue to references that you make - i.e. - 1st law? execute as instructed. which is where i have found assembler to be better at than using an 'interpreter/compiler'. if you can understand 'machine code', using assembler makes for a closer relationshi

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-21 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 18:07 +, g wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > AuthInfoRequired negotiate > > > > got into /etc/cups/printers.conf in the printer definition and removing > > the line completely solved it. > > > > I have no idea how it got there > > because you use a computer and it forg

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-20 Thread g
Craig White wrote: AuthInfoRequired negotiate got into /etc/cups/printers.conf in the printer definition and removing the line completely solved it. I have no idea how it got there because you use a computer and it forgot "1st law"? interesting anyway. do printers set up with this install.

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-20 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 13:50 +, g wrote: > g wrote: > > >> and appropriate section of cupsd.conf... > >> > >> > >> Order Deny,Allow > >> Deny From All > >> Allow From 127.0.0.1 > >> Allow From 192.168.2.0 > >> AuthType None > >> > >> > >> which clearly tells me that no authentication should b

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-20 Thread g
g wrote: and appropriate section of cupsd.conf... Order Deny,Allow Deny From All Allow From 127.0.0.1 Allow From 192.168.2.0 AuthType None which clearly tells me that no authentication should be necessary How do I fix this? i am not using f9, nor windows. i do use cups under another syste

Re: F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-20 Thread g
Craig White wrote: I returned my inkjet printer to service after some time and hadn't used this printer with Linux since F7 if not before F7. In 'Administration => Printing', I can print test page no problem (obviously as root). But as a user, I get an error that seems to be authentication but I

F9 - cups - windows shared printer

2008-07-18 Thread Craig White
I returned my inkjet printer to service after some time and hadn't used this printer with Linux since F7 if not before F7. In 'Administration => Printing', I can print test page no problem (obviously as root). But as a user, I get an error that seems to be authentication but I can't fix it. cups