Re: Flash Problem
I believe you live in England. Does the BBC, who mainly developed No - next door in Wales Dirac, use Dirac for webcasting? Who are the associates who participated in development. AI couldn't find any after a quick at Google's. The BBC uses flash primarily, and has previously used realplayer. The BBC isn't just a state TV business - it does real RD and Dirac was part of that work. Some time after the Dirac work the BBC went with a windows only based iplayer project, got beaten up by the BBC trust (which is responsible for keeping the BBC in order - a full time job because the BBC at times has problems remembering its public service duties or even following its own charter) and introduced the flash player as well. As I understand it the flash player is basically all their traffic now. Unlike youtube the BBC flash doesn't yet work with gnash unfortunately. Because of DRM, it even seems unsure the BBC itself will use it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/22/bbc-drm-cory-doctorow This doesn't affect webcasting. OFCOM regulates the free to air service which the BBC are busy trying to corrupt (in almost certain violation of their charter). As the agreements for the free to air service stand they require the specifications used are open (for some version of open). The BBC is thus obliged to ask for permission to sneakily screw it all up, and fortunately got caught with its pants down. I imagine that will end up in court with the BBC having to make an embarrasing climbdown as they did with their internet tv platform, their educational internet project, and a list of other fiascos where they wasted tons of public money on by not following the rules that forbid the BBC from distorting markets with public money unless they can show clear public interest. As I understand it the BBC is perfectly at liberty to encrypt and DRM its web streaming services to death without the permission of OFCOM. It might have trouble showing public interest in the proposal however, unless it was truely cross platform and didn't distort markets. That said there are certainly content providers with concerns about the ease with which people record the flash streams for long term watching as it eats into follow on DVD sales. Of course DRM won't fix that problem anyway but their are people in the BBC food chain dumb enough not to get it, or short enough of backbone to explain this to the content creators. Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
On 10-01-08 00:21:56, Chris Smart wrote: ... Dirac is based on wavelets, completely different technology. It's also lossless, while Theora is not. http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/dirac/technology.shtml; According to that reference, Dirac is a typical lossy encoding method. The loss is introduced by the Quantization step, while the compression comes from entropy-coding the quantized (decimated) data with Arithmetic Coding. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
2010/1/9 Tony Nelson tonynel...@georgeanelson.com: According to that reference, Dirac is a typical lossy encoding method. The loss is introduced by the Quantization step, while the compression comes from entropy-coding the quantized (decimated) data with Arithmetic Coding. Yes, that's with lossy compression on top of wavelets, as opposed to discrete cosine transformations, according to Wikipedia. However the website (and BBC site) say that it can employ lossless compression: Dirac has the capability of compressing high resolution files for production, compression for broadcast content, and compression for web 2.0 applications. Compression can be either lossless or visually lossless. http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/dirac/uses.shtml; When I played with it a while back, I'm pretty sure there was an option for lossless. -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Chris Smart m...@christophersmart.com wrote: However the website (and BBC site) say that it can employ lossless compression: Dirac has the capability of compressing high resolution files for production, compression for broadcast content, and compression for web 2.0 applications. Compression can be either lossless or visually lossless. http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/dirac/uses.shtml; Excuse me for being so down to earth, but I don't believe that, to deliver content on the Web, a lossless codec is essential. If I'm right Ogg Theora could have been proposed to state TVs years ago. Instead Flash pretty much took over Windows Media. We're not much better off. P.s.: I'm still wondering what happened to my Flash player recently. Am I the only one who experienced this problem? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:55:43 -0500 Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Chris Smart m...@christophersmart.com wrote: However the website (and BBC site) say that it can employ lossless compression: Dirac has the capability of compressing high resolution files for production, compression for broadcast content, and compression for web 2.0 applications. Compression can be either lossless or visually lossless. http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/dirac/uses.shtml; Excuse me for being so down to earth, but I don't believe that, to deliver content on the Web, a lossless codec is essential. If I'm right Ogg Theora could have been proposed to state TVs years ago. Theora is not lossless. The BBC code is intended for lots of things - such as *production* where you don't want loss. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: Theora is not lossless. The BBC code is intended for lots of things - such as *production* where you don't want loss. I'm not saying that Dirac doesn't present advantages over Ogg Theora but I believe that, since it's now so omnipresent, Flash will be hard to topple out of the market. I believe you live in England. Does the BBC, who mainly developed Dirac, use Dirac for webcasting? Who are the associates who participated in development. AI couldn't find any after a quick at Google's. Because of DRM, it even seems unsure the BBC itself will use it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/22/bbc-drm-cory-doctorow -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
On Friday 08 January 2010 05:29 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: Because of DRM, it even seems unsure the BBC�itself will use it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/22/bbc-drm-cory-doctorow A very interesting read. Thank you -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: I thought it might be a good idea to do just the opposite: remove everything and reinstall, I reinstalled gnash. It works fine at youtube but apparently needs the bad plugins. Not sure it's an advantage over using the Abode plug-in... Too many sites were not playing with gnash. So, I tried to install flash-plugin. First weird thing is that flash-plugin does not show as installed or installable in package manager for GNOME. I then followed instructions on Fedora's wiki but gave the instructions one by one. For the first ones, the software was installed. For the last: # yum install libcurl.i686 Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Setting up Install Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package libcurl.i686 0:7.19.7-2.fc12 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: libsoftokn3.so for package: libcurl-7.19.7-2.fc12.i686 -- Processing Dependency: libnssdbm3.so for package: libcurl-7.19.7-2.fc12.i686 -- Running transaction check --- Package nss-softokn.i686 0:3.12.4-10.fc12 set to be updated -- Finished Dependency Resolution Dependencies Resolved == PackageArchVersion Repository Size == Installing: libcurli6867.19.7-2.fc12 updates161 k Installing for dependencies: nss-softokni6863.12.4-10.fc12 fedora 159 k Transaction Summary == Install 2 Package(s) Upgrade 0 Package(s) Total size: 320 k Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: Running rpm_check_debug Running Transaction Test Finished Transaction Test Transaction Check Error: package libcurl-7.19.7-3.fc11.x86_64 (which is newer than libcurl-7.19.7-2.fc12.i686) is already installed package libcurl-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586 (which is newer than libcurl-7.19.7-2.fc12.i686) is already installed Error Summary - If I try to uninstall package libcurl-7.19.7-3.fc11.x86_64, there appears 160 packages to be uninstalled. Flash doesn't work as it is now. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
2010/1/8 Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com: Too many sites were not playing with gnash. So, I tried to install flash-plugin. First weird thing is that flash-plugin does not show as installed or installable in package manager for GNOME. If you're using 64bit, try the native 64bit plugin. If you're using 32bit, then just add the Adobe flash repo and install. http://blog.christophersmart.com/2009/07/16/flash-fedora/; -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
Hi Marcel, On Thursday 07 January 2010 10:59 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: # yum install libcurl.i686 This might be your problem. Try this instead, # yum install libcurl Transaction Check Error: package libcurl-7.19.7-3.fc11.x86_64 (which is newer than libcurl-7.19.7-2.fc12.i686) is already installed package libcurl-7.19.7-3.fc11.i586 (which is newer than libcurl-7.19.7-2.fc12.i686) is already installed Error Summary - I think you are running a 64 bit system, and since you explicitly specified the 32 bit package, there was a conflict. However this should not be happening as I was under the impression that you can have both 32-bit and 64-bit installed simultaneously. If you are running a 64-bit system, I would urge you to try the 64-bit flash tarball available here[1]. Good Luck and Happy New Year. [1]http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marcel, On Thursday 07 January 2010 10:59 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: # yum install libcurl.i686 This might be your problem. Try this instead, # yum install libcurl This tells me that the the x86_version is installed. But the Fedora Wiki says that the -i686 version should be installed: On 64-bit Fedora 32 bit wrapped version These instructions will install a 32-bit plugin that will work with the 64-bit browser by being wrapped with nspluginwrapper. After installing the repository configuration, run the following command to install the Flash plugin and ensure sound is enabled. For Fedora 12: su -c 'yum install flash-plugin nspluginwrapper.x86_64 \ nspluginwrapper.i686 alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.i686 \ libcurl.i686' nspluginwrapper is installed for both x86_64 and i686. Pulse audio are only i686. I wonder if this is correct. Whatever the case may be, it seems this wasn't the problem. After today's updates, everything started working. Magic! Does anybody know of a way to trace back what the problem was? These problems that come and go with updates, drive me crazy. Also, is there anyway to see the addresses for Software Sources? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Chris Smart m...@christophersmart.com wrote: 2010/1/8 Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com: Too many sites were not playing with gnash. So, I tried to install flash-plugin. First weird thing is that flash-plugin does not show as installed or installable in package manager for GNOME. If you're using 64bit, try the native 64bit plugin. If you're using 32bit, then just add the Adobe flash repo and install. As I said to Suvayu Ali, everything is fine now. There should be no reason why the 32bit version shouldn't work on a 64bit installation with a wrapper, the advantage being that yum manages the 32 bit version. I couldn't agree more on what you say here about using free software on the net: I really really wish YouTube would switch to Theora so that I don’t have to install flash.. http://blog.christophersmart.com/2009/07/16/flash-fedora/; I checked a bit Wikipedia to understand the matter. It seems that Ogg Theora is free and offers good quality streaming. Why then has Dirac been developed? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
2010/1/8 Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com: I checked a bit Wikipedia to understand the matter. It seems that Ogg Theora is free and offers good quality streaming. Why then has Dirac been developed? Dirac is based on wavelets, completely different technology. It's also lossless, while Theora is not. http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/dirac/technology.shtml; -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Suddenly, Flash at YouTube and elsewhere stopped playing. I cleaned /tmp, checked if javascript was enabled, I installed some new flash packages, but not devel and gnash, tried the former kernel(1), all to no avail. (1) I received kernel warning after I rebooted. The Black screen with controls appear, the controls disappear, the screen becomes white, the download seems hesitant. No video. Suggestions? I thought it might be a good idea to do just the opposite: remove everythign and reinstall, I reinstalled gnash. It works fine at youtube but apparently needs the bad plugins. Not sure it's an advantage over using the Abode plug-in... This definitely looks like a hack. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
2010/1/7 Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com: youtube but apparently needs the bad plugins. Not sure it's an advantage over using the Abode plug-in... It's free software I guess.. -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Chris Smart m...@christophersmart.com wrote: 2010/1/7 Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com: youtube but apparently needs the bad plugins. Not sure it's an advantage over using the Abode plug-in... It's free software I guess.. Yeees... But have you seen the description for Gsretamer's bad plugins? GStreamer is a streaming media framework, based on graphs of elements which operate on media data. This package contains plug-ins that have licensing issues, ***aren't tested well enough, or the code is not of good enough quality***. If I remember well, FlashPlayer doesn't require those plug-ins. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem
2010/1/7 Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com: Yeees... But have you seen the description for Gsretamer's bad plugins? Sure, it's bad and crappy, but at least it's open source :-) -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem in Firefox
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Mike Dwiggins m...@azdwiggins.com wrote: I am trying to run up new install of Fedora 11. I go into Firefox 3.5.3-1.fc11 and attempt to run a YouTube vid. I get a message stating that I either have JavaScript disabled or I do not have the latest version of Flash. I then downloaded and installed via rpm -Uvh flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release.i386.rpm. I also insured that Java and JavaScript were enabled. Now when I go to YouTube I get the same message I started with. Any ideas? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines see if the flash plug-in here: www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ -- Athmane Madjoudj Blog: http://athmane.wordpress.com Resumé: http://athmane.wordpress.com/about Fedora Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Athmane -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem in Firefox
Mike Dwiggins wrote: I am trying to run up new install of Fedora 11. I go into Firefox 3.5.3-1.fc11 and attempt to run a YouTube vid. I get a message stating that I either have JavaScript disabled or I do not have the latest version of Flash. I then downloaded and installed via rpm -Uvh flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release.i386.rpm. I also insured that Java and JavaScript were enabled. Now when I go to YouTube I get the same message I started with. Any ideas? Thanks Is your system 32- or 64-bit? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem in Firefox
Aioanei Rares wrote: Mike Dwiggins wrote: I am trying to run up new install of Fedora 11. I go into Firefox 3.5.3-1.fc11 and attempt to run a YouTube vid. I get a message stating that I either have JavaScript disabled or I do not have the latest version of Flash. I then downloaded and installed via rpm -Uvh flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release.i386.rpm. I also insured that Java and JavaScript were enabled. Now when I go to YouTube I get the same message I started with. Any ideas? Thanks Is your system 32- or 64-bit? It is 64 bit, is that possibly the problem. This install is new enough I could start from scratch. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem in Firefox
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 02:30 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: Aioanei Rares wrote: Mike Dwiggins wrote: I am trying to run up new install of Fedora 11. I go into Firefox 3.5.3-1.fc11 and attempt to run a YouTube vid. I get a message stating that I either have JavaScript disabled or I do not have the latest version of Flash. I then downloaded and installed via rpm -Uvh flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release.i386.rpm. I also insured that Java and JavaScript were enabled. Now when I go to YouTube I get the same message I started with. Any ideas? Thanks Is your system 32- or 64-bit? It is 64 bit, is that possibly the problem. This install is new enough I could start from scratch. http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem in Firefox
Athmane Madjoudj wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Mike Dwiggins m...@azdwiggins.com wrote: I am trying to run up new install of Fedora 11. I go into Firefox 3.5.3-1.fc11 and attempt to run a YouTube vid. I get a message stating that I either have JavaScript disabled or I do not have the latest version of Flash. I then downloaded and installed via rpm -Uvh flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release.i386.rpm. I also insured that Java and JavaScript were enabled. Now when I go to YouTube I get the same message I started with. Any ideas? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines see if the flash plug-in here: www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ Went there and the Select Operating System option did not even show Linux. Windows and three flavors of Mac only. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem in Firefox
Suvayu Ali wrote: On Tuesday 13 October 2009 02:30 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: Aioanei Rares wrote: Mike Dwiggins wrote: I am trying to run up new install of Fedora 11. I go into Firefox 3.5.3-1.fc11 and attempt to run a YouTube vid. I get a message stating that I either have JavaScript disabled or I do not have the latest version of Flash. I then downloaded and installed via rpm -Uvh flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release.i386.rpm. I also insured that Java and JavaScript were enabled. Now when I go to YouTube I get the same message I started with. Any ideas? Thanks Is your system 32- or 64-bit? It is 64 bit, is that possibly the problem. This install is new enough I could start from scratch. http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html Exactly, and uninstall the flash plugin previously. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem in Firefox
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Mike Dwiggins wrote: Athmane Madjoudj wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Mike Dwiggins m...@azdwiggins.com wrote: I am trying to run up new install of Fedora 11. I go into Firefox 3.5.3-1.fc11 and attempt to run a YouTube vid. I get a message stating that I either have JavaScript disabled or I do not have the latest version of Flash. I then downloaded and installed via rpm -Uvh flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release.i386.rpm. I also insured that Java and JavaScript were enabled. Now when I go to YouTube I get the same message I started with. Any ideas? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines see if the flash plug-in here: www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ Went there and the Select Operating System option did not even show Linux. Windows and three flavors of Mac only. can you tell where the flash plugin .so file was installed? did you restart firefox? and, in firefox, if you browse to about:plugins, does it list flash? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem in Firefox (Placed on Hold)
Aioanei Rares wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: On Tuesday 13 October 2009 02:30 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: Aioanei Rares wrote: Mike Dwiggins wrote: I am trying to run up new install of Fedora 11. I go into Firefox 3.5.3-1.fc11 and attempt to run a YouTube vid. I get a message stating that I either have JavaScript disabled or I do not have the latest version of Flash. I then downloaded and installed via rpm -Uvh flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release.i386.rpm. I also insured that Java and JavaScript were enabled. Now when I go to YouTube I get the same message I started with. Any ideas? Thanks Is your system 32- or 64-bit? It is 64 bit, is that possibly the problem. This install is new enough I could start from scratch. http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html Exactly, and uninstall the flash plugin previously. Thanks for the help! I have looked at the reason I installed the 64 bit version vice the 32 bit and find it was more just because I had a new toy. I am going to reinstall as 32 bit to finish the project I have in hand and come back to the 64 bit later. Again, thanks for the help! Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem in Firefox
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Mike Dwiggins wrote: Aioanei Rares wrote: Mike Dwiggins wrote: I am trying to run up new install of Fedora 11. I go into Firefox 3.5.3-1.fc11 and attempt to run a YouTube vid. I get a message stating that I either have JavaScript disabled or I do not have the latest version of Flash. I then downloaded and installed via rpm -Uvh flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release.i386.rpm. I also insured that Java and JavaScript were enabled. Now when I go to YouTube I get the same message I started with. Any ideas? Thanks Is your system 32- or 64-bit? It is 64 bit, is that possibly the problem. This install is new enough I could start from scratch. i have a 64-bit f11 system running flash nicely: 1) get the tarball from http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html 2) unload it to get at the single libflashplayer.so file contained therein 3) as root, copy that file to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins 4) kill and restart all firefoxes 5) browse to about:plugins to verify that your browser can see the flash plugin 6) surf over to youtube.com, and rock out to we built this city by starship. no, wait ... that last part can't be right. rday p.s. hang on ... i just checked and here's the contents of my /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins_wrapped directory: ./plugins-wrapped ./plugins-wrapped/nswrapper_64_64.libvlcplugin.so ./plugins-wrapped/nswrapper_64_64.libflashplayer.so ./plugins-wrapped/librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so ./plugins-wrapped/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so ./plugins-wrapped/npwrapper.so ./plugins-wrapped/libjavaplugin.so ./plugins-wrapped/libtotem-mully-plugin.so ./plugins-wrapped/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so ./plugins-wrapped/libtotem-cone-plugin.so i'd never noticed that content before. do i really need that nswrapper stuff related to flash? i don't recall installing that, where did it come from? can i safely toss some of that? because my about:plugins sees *that* plugin. that's new to me, but flash still appears to work. weird. -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Shockwave [was Re: Flash Problem in Firefox]
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 10:11 +0100, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: see if the flash plug-in here: www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ This reminds me I don't have Shockwave on my x86_64 system. Is there a Shockwave plugin available for linux Firefox? jon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem in Firefox
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Mike Dwiggins wrote: Aioanei Rares wrote: Mike Dwiggins wrote: I am trying to run up new install of Fedora 11. I go into Firefox 3.5.3-1.fc11 and attempt to run a YouTube vid. I get a message stating that I either have JavaScript disabled or I do not have the latest version of Flash. I then downloaded and installed via rpm -Uvh flash-plugin-10.0.32.18-release.i386.rpm. I also insured that Java and JavaScript were enabled. Now when I go to YouTube I get the same message I started with. Any ideas? Thanks Is your system 32- or 64-bit? It is 64 bit, is that possibly the problem. This install is new enough I could start from scratch. i have a 64-bit f11 system running flash nicely: 1) get the tarball from http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html 2) unload it to get at the single libflashplayer.so file contained therein 3) as root, copy that file to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins 4) kill and restart all firefoxes 5) browse to about:plugins to verify that your browser can see the flash plugin 6) surf over to youtube.com, and rock out to we built this city by starship. no, wait ... that last part can't be right. rday p.s. hang on ... i just checked and here's the contents of my /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins_wrapped directory: ./plugins-wrapped ./plugins-wrapped/nswrapper_64_64.libvlcplugin.so ./plugins-wrapped/nswrapper_64_64.libflashplayer.so ./plugins-wrapped/librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so ./plugins-wrapped/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so ./plugins-wrapped/npwrapper.so ./plugins-wrapped/libjavaplugin.so ./plugins-wrapped/libtotem-mully-plugin.so ./plugins-wrapped/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so ./plugins-wrapped/libtotem-cone-plugin.so i'd never noticed that content before. do i really need that nswrapper stuff related to flash? i don't recall installing that, where did it come from? can i safely toss some of that? because my about:plugins sees *that* plugin. that's new to me, but flash still appears to work. weird. -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday One can copy the plugin you said abou in ~/.mozilla/plugins . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flash Problem in Firefox
I am trying to run up new install of Fedora 11. I go into Firefox 3.5.3-1.fc11 and attempt to run a YouTube vid. I get a message stating I had the same for a while. there is a switch in preferences that tells firefox that the apps are available. and You've got to run the firefox plugins diaolog. I don't know the details as my daughter did it for me but since then its worked very well for me. Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
