Re: How to dump the locked up program

2009-09-28 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Vincent Onelli wrote:
 Hello all,
 Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a full
 reboot?.

What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix
world. And program is better spelled process.

So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux?
will give you a lot of answers.

In a console:
  kill 666
(where 666 is the PID of the process)

Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could be
Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands).

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Re: How to dump the locked up program

2009-09-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:24 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
 Vincent Onelli wrote:
  Hello all,
  Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a full
  reboot?.
 
 What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix
 world. And program is better spelled process.
 
 So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux?
 will give you a lot of answers.
 
 In a console:
   kill 666
 (where 666 is the PID of the process)
 
 Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could be
 Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands).

A couple of extra points:

1) The kill command doesn't technically kill the process, it sends it
a signal. kill -l gives a list of possible signals. The default signal
(SIGTERM) can be caught by the process. This is to allow it to clean up
before finishing (and it might decide not to finish at all). SIGKILL on
the other hand cannot be caught.

2) Sometimes a process cannot be killed even with SIGKILL (because it's
waiting in the kernel on some event that will never happen) and a reboot
is the only answer.

poc

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Re: How to dump the locked up program

2009-09-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 28 September 2009 15:04:08 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:24 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
  Vincent Onelli wrote:
   Hello all,
   Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a full
   reboot?.
 
  What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix
  world. And program is better spelled process.
 
  So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux?
  will give you a lot of answers.
 
  In a console:
kill 666
  (where 666 is the PID of the process)
 
  Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could be
  Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands).
 
 A couple of extra points:
 
 1) The kill command doesn't technically kill the process, it sends it
 a signal. kill -l gives a list of possible signals. The default signal
 (SIGTERM) can be caught by the process. This is to allow it to clean up
 before finishing (and it might decide not to finish at all). SIGKILL on
 the other hand cannot be caught.
 
 2) Sometimes a process cannot be killed even with SIGKILL (because it's
 waiting in the kernel on some event that will never happen) and a reboot
 is the only answer.
 
In many distros the key-combination ctrl-alt-Esc starts kill - producing a 
skull and crossbones icon, which you then move to the titlebar of the gui 
application you want to kill.  If you change your mind, Esc gets you out of 
it.

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Re: How to dump the locked up program

2009-09-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:30 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Monday 28 September 2009 15:04:08 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:24 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
   Vincent Onelli wrote:
Hello all,
Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a full
reboot?.
  
   What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix
   world. And program is better spelled process.
  
   So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux?
   will give you a lot of answers.
  
   In a console:
 kill 666
   (where 666 is the PID of the process)
  
   Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could be
   Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands).
  
  A couple of extra points:
  
  1) The kill command doesn't technically kill the process, it sends it
  a signal. kill -l gives a list of possible signals. The default signal
  (SIGTERM) can be caught by the process. This is to allow it to clean up
  before finishing (and it might decide not to finish at all). SIGKILL on
  the other hand cannot be caught.
  
  2) Sometimes a process cannot be killed even with SIGKILL (because it's
  waiting in the kernel on some event that will never happen) and a reboot
  is the only answer.
  
 In many distros the key-combination ctrl-alt-Esc starts kill - producing a 
 skull and crossbones icon, which you then move to the titlebar of the gui 
 application you want to kill.  If you change your mind, Esc gets you out of 
 it.

Interesting, I'd never seen that. It seems to be the same as the xkill
command, which I sometimes find useful. However the OP didn't say he
wanted to kill a GUI client. Also, xkill doesn't send any signals, it
just closes the connection from the X client to the X server. Most
clients then commit suicide, but nothing forces them to.

poc

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Re: How to dump the locked up program

2009-09-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 28 September 2009 17:07:06 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:30 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Monday 28 September 2009 15:04:08 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
   On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:24 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
Vincent Onelli wrote:
 Hello all,
 Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a
 full reboot?.
   
What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix
world. And program is better spelled process.
   
So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux?
will give you a lot of answers.
   
In a console:
  kill 666
(where 666 is the PID of the process)
   
Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could
be Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands).
  
   A couple of extra points:
  
   1) The kill command doesn't technically kill the process, it sends it
   a signal. kill -l gives a list of possible signals. The default
   signal (SIGTERM) can be caught by the process. This is to allow it to
   clean up before finishing (and it might decide not to finish at all).
   SIGKILL on the other hand cannot be caught.
  
   2) Sometimes a process cannot be killed even with SIGKILL (because it's
   waiting in the kernel on some event that will never happen) and a
   reboot is the only answer.
 
  In many distros the key-combination ctrl-alt-Esc starts kill - producing
  a skull and crossbones icon, which you then move to the titlebar of the
  gui application you want to kill.  If you change your mind, Esc gets you
  out of it.
 
 Interesting, I'd never seen that. It seems to be the same as the xkill

I believe it is xkill.

 command, which I sometimes find useful. However the OP didn't say he
 wanted to kill a GUI client. Also, xkill doesn't send any signals, it
 just closes the connection from the X client to the X server. Most
 clients then commit suicide, but nothing forces them to.
 
It's simplistic, yes, but generally it gets rid of those pesky situations 
where something has obviously got stuck in a loop.  Very useful.

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Re: How to dump the locked up program

2009-09-28 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 11:37 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
 On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:30 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Monday 28 September 2009 15:04:08 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
   On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:24 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
Vincent Onelli wrote:
 Hello all,
 Is there way to dump the program stop responding, instead of do a full
 reboot?.
   
What you are calling dump is probably called kill in the Unix
world. And program is better spelled process.
   
So, a simple Google search for How do I kill a process in Linux?
will give you a lot of answers.
   
In a console:
  kill 666
(where 666 is the PID of the process)
   
Via GUI, it depends on GNOME, KDE, whatever you are using (it could be
Ctrl-Esc or similar key commands).
   
   A couple of extra points:
   
   1) The kill command doesn't technically kill the process, it sends it
   a signal. kill -l gives a list of possible signals. The default signal
   (SIGTERM) can be caught by the process. This is to allow it to clean up
   before finishing (and it might decide not to finish at all). SIGKILL on
   the other hand cannot be caught.
   
   2) Sometimes a process cannot be killed even with SIGKILL (because it's
   waiting in the kernel on some event that will never happen) and a reboot
   is the only answer.
   
  In many distros the key-combination ctrl-alt-Esc starts kill - producing a 
  skull and crossbones icon, which you then move to the titlebar of the gui 
  application you want to kill.  If you change your mind, Esc gets you out of 
  it.
 
 Interesting, I'd never seen that. It seems to be the same as the xkill
 command, which I sometimes find useful. However the OP didn't say he
 wanted to kill a GUI client. Also, xkill doesn't send any signals, it
 just closes the connection from the X client to the X server. Most
 clients then commit suicide, but nothing forces them to.
 
 poc
 
I would recommend : kill-9
for the job.
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