Re: Kde problems
On 01/04/2010 02:37 PM, Mail Lists wrote: On 01/03/2010 10:47 PM, Chris Smart wrote: could well be it. My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That I've seen that - for me was usually a graphics driver problem - installer works great (in vesa mode) - but as soon as it boots the 'real' driver jumps in and craps out. I'd look in /var/log/X* and /var/log/boot and see if there's anything of interest (using recovery or live cd or whatever). I checked the /var/log/X* and nothing seemed unusual. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/04/2010 12:45 PM, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/4 david walcroft: No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh install,my trouble starts upon a reboot. Using ext4? If your file system's not syncing before poweroff, perhaps it's file system corruption. Have you tried ext3? -c I'll try it next time around. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/04/2010 01:47 PM, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/4 Mail Lists: Â Before changing back to ext3 and reinstalling - which looks like a shot in the dark to me - you may want to a boot live cd and run fsck on the partition. Complete stab in the dark :-) Doing a fsck is a good idea - I was assuming that the partition was being formatted each time Fedora was re-installed, but if he uses a separate partition for /home, then that could well be it. My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That doesn't make sense, so seems like his KDE configs aren't being written properly. I've had a similar problem with Fedora 11 and ext4. -c Yes I have a separate partition for /home and do not format during an install.I think it must be time to format and reinstall /home from a backup. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/04/2010 11:50 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: david walcroft wrote: Hi, I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should. Did you enable compositing/desktop-effects ? If so, disable by editing ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc in [Compositing] section, Enabled=false -- Rex This is my kwinrc [$Version] update_info=kwin3_plugin.upd:kde3.2,kwin_focus2.upd:kwin_focus2,kwin.upd:kde3.0r1,kwin.upd:kde3.2Xinerama,kwin_focus1.upd:kwin_focus1,kwin_on_off.upd:kwin_on_off [Desktops] Name_1= Name_2= Name_3= Name_4= Number=4 david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 14:47 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: > I was assuming that the partition was being formatted each time Fedora > was re-installed, but if he uses a separate partition for /home, then > that could well be it. Unless you manually partition, and manually add options to do a file system check, the installation routine will do a quick format that doesn't checks anything. The checking will take ages on huge hard drives. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
david walcroft wrote: > Hi, > I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous > situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should. Did you enable compositing/desktop-effects ? If so, disable by editing ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc in [Compositing] section, Enabled=false -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On Sunday 03 January 2010 21:22:32 david walcroft wrote: > I'm using fc12-86_64,my problem is when ever I logout/login or > shut-down/reboot I lose kde,it will not start,only a blue screen. > and no desktop.Sometimes I get the error 'cannot access > /usr/bin/autorun: no such file or directory' so I cp -r /usr/bin/autorun > from my backup and logout/login with no result. > An install a while ago my sys. booted into a default desktop not my > usual desktop,I found out that kde was not reading my ~/.kde file,I cp > -r a copy from ~.kde.old ~.kde but on logging out/in the ~.kde file was > over written.The only solution I've had is to reinstall the system. > I've got no idea how to troubleshoot these problems.Help would be > appreciated. Ok, how about this: create a new, dummy user, and log into that account (into KDE, of course). Check that everything is ok, logout, log back in. Is it the same? Do you still see the error message? If the dummy user works as expected, then something in your old settings in ~/.kde.old is making KDE unhappy. If the dummy user doesn't work, then there is some deeper problem and it needs troubleshooting. My idea would be to read the system and KDE log files, and look for errors and warnings. Or to switch to runlevel 3, do a startx, reproduce the error, read the output from the terminal. Or to do a strace or something, to see what app is trying to access /usr/bin/autorun. Incidentally, I don't have /usr/bin/autorun on my system, and it runs KDE just fine. HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/03/2010 10:47 PM, Chris Smart wrote: could well be it. > > My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works > correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That I've seen that - for me was usually a graphics driver problem - installer works great (in vesa mode) - but as soon as it boots the 'real' driver jumps in and craps out. I'd look in /var/log/X* and /var/log/boot and see if there's anything of interest (using recovery or live cd or whatever). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
2010/1/4 Mail Lists : > > Before changing back to ext3 and reinstalling - which looks like a shot > in the dark to me - you may want to a boot live cd and run fsck on the > partition. Complete stab in the dark :-) Doing a fsck is a good idea - I was assuming that the partition was being formatted each time Fedora was re-installed, but if he uses a separate partition for /home, then that could well be it. My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That doesn't make sense, so seems like his KDE configs aren't being written properly. I've had a similar problem with Fedora 11 and ext4. -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/03/2010 09:45 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > Using ext4? If your file system's not syncing before poweroff, perhaps > it's file system corruption. Have you tried ext3? > > -c > Before changing back to ext3 and reinstalling - which looks like a shot in the dark to me - you may want to a boot live cd and run fsck on the partition. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
2010/1/4 david walcroft : > No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh > install,my trouble starts upon a reboot. Using ext4? If your file system's not syncing before poweroff, perhaps it's file system corruption. Have you tried ext3? -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
On 01/04/2010 09:37 AM, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/4 david walcroft: Hi, I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should. Dying hard drive? Bad installation media? -c No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh install,my trouble starts upon a reboot. david -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde problems
2010/1/4 david walcroft : > Hi, > I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous > situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should. Dying hard drive? Bad installation media? -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines