Re: Kde problems

2010-01-05 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 14:47 +1100, Chris Smart wrote:
 I was assuming that the partition was being formatted each time Fedora
 was re-installed, but if he uses a separate partition for /home, then
 that could well be it.

Unless you manually partition, and manually add options to do a file
system check, the installation routine will do a quick format that
doesn't checks anything.  The checking will take ages on huge hard
drives.

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-05 Thread david walcroft

On 01/04/2010 11:50 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:

david walcroft wrote:


Hi,
I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous
situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should.


Did you enable compositing/desktop-effects ?

If so, disable by editing ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc in [Compositing]
section,
Enabled=false

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This is my kwinrc

[$Version]
update_info=kwin3_plugin.upd:kde3.2,kwin_focus2.upd:kwin_focus2,kwin.upd:kde3.0r1,kwin.upd:kde3.2Xinerama,kwin_focus1.upd:kwin_focus1,kwin_on_off.upd:kwin_on_off

[Desktops]
Name_1=
Name_2=
Name_3=
Name_4=
Number=4

david

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-05 Thread david walcroft

On 01/04/2010 01:47 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

2010/1/4 Mail Listsli...@sapience.com:


 Before changing back to ext3 and reinstalling - which looks like a shot
in the dark to me - you may want to a boot live cd and run fsck on the
partition.


Complete stab in the dark :-) Doing a fsck is a good idea - I was
assuming that the partition was being formatted each time Fedora was
re-installed, but if he uses a separate partition for /home, then that
could well be it.

My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works
correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That
doesn't make sense, so seems like his KDE configs aren't being written
properly. I've had a similar problem with Fedora 11 and ext4.

-c

Yes I have a separate partition for /home and do not format during an 
install.I think it must be time to format and reinstall /home from a backup.


david

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-05 Thread david walcroft

On 01/04/2010 12:45 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

2010/1/4 david walcroftd_j_...@bigpond.net.au:

No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh
install,my trouble starts upon a reboot.


Using ext4? If your file system's not syncing before poweroff, perhaps
it's file system corruption. Have you tried ext3?

-c


I'll try it next time around.

david

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-05 Thread david walcroft

On 01/04/2010 02:37 PM, Mail Lists wrote:

On 01/03/2010 10:47 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
could well be it.


My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works
correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That


   I've seen that - for me was usually a graphics driver problem -
installer works great (in vesa mode) - but as soon as it boots the
'real' driver jumps in and craps out.

   I'd look in /var/log/X* and /var/log/boot and see if there's anything
of interest (using recovery or live cd or whatever).


I checked the /var/log/X* and nothing seemed unusual.

david

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/4 david walcroft d_j_...@bigpond.net.au:
 Hi,
 I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous
 situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should.

Dying hard drive? Bad installation media?

-c

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread david walcroft

On 01/04/2010 09:37 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

2010/1/4 david walcroftd_j_...@bigpond.net.au:

Hi,
I've reposted as I need to try and get a response as it's a ridiculous
situation reinstalling because I cannot get kde to work as it should.


Dying hard drive? Bad installation media?

-c

No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh 
install,my trouble starts upon a reboot.


david

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/4 david walcroft d_j_...@bigpond.net.au:
 No I don't think it's a dying disk or bad media as kde runs on a fresh
 install,my trouble starts upon a reboot.

Using ext4? If your file system's not syncing before poweroff, perhaps
it's file system corruption. Have you tried ext3?

-c

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/03/2010 09:45 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

 Using ext4? If your file system's not syncing before poweroff, perhaps
 it's file system corruption. Have you tried ext3?
 
 -c
 

 Before changing back to ext3 and reinstalling - which looks like a shot
in the dark to me - you may want to a boot live cd and run fsck on the
partition.


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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/4 Mail Lists li...@sapience.com:

  Before changing back to ext3 and reinstalling - which looks like a shot
 in the dark to me - you may want to a boot live cd and run fsck on the
 partition.

Complete stab in the dark :-) Doing a fsck is a good idea - I was
assuming that the partition was being formatted each time Fedora was
re-installed, but if he uses a separate partition for /home, then that
could well be it.

My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works
correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That
doesn't make sense, so seems like his KDE configs aren't being written
properly. I've had a similar problem with Fedora 11 and ext4.

-c

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/03/2010 10:47 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
could well be it.
 
 My understanding is that he does fresh installs and KDE works
 correctly the first time, but then dies after the first reboot. That

  I've seen that - for me was usually a graphics driver problem -
installer works great (in vesa mode) - but as soon as it boots the
'real' driver jumps in and craps out.

  I'd look in /var/log/X* and /var/log/boot and see if there's anything
of interest (using recovery or live cd or whatever).

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Re: Kde problems

2010-01-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday 03 January 2010 21:22:32 david walcroft wrote:
 I'm using fc12-86_64,my problem is when ever I logout/login or
 shut-down/reboot I lose kde,it will not start,only a blue screen.
 and no desktop.Sometimes I get the error 'cannot access
 /usr/bin/autorun: no such file or directory' so I cp -r /usr/bin/autorun
 from my backup and logout/login with no result.
 An install a while ago my sys. booted into a default desktop not my
 usual desktop,I found out that kde was not reading my ~/.kde file,I cp
 -r a copy from ~.kde.old ~.kde but on logging out/in the ~.kde file was
 over written.The only solution I've had is to reinstall the system.
 I've got no idea how to troubleshoot these problems.Help would be
 appreciated.

Ok, how about this: create a new, dummy user, and log into that account (into 
KDE, of course). Check that everything is ok, logout, log back in. Is it the 
same? Do you still see the error message?

If the dummy user works as expected, then something in your old settings in 
~/.kde.old is making KDE unhappy.

If the dummy user doesn't work, then there is some deeper problem and it needs 
troubleshooting. My idea would be to read the system and KDE log files, and 
look for errors and warnings. Or to switch to runlevel 3, do a startx, 
reproduce the error, read the output from the terminal. Or to do a strace or 
something, to see what app is trying to access /usr/bin/autorun.

Incidentally, I don't have /usr/bin/autorun on my system, and it runs KDE just 
fine.

HTH, :-)
Marko


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