Re: Wine (?) spoiling F12 boot : MITIGATED

2009-12-30 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:12:10 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
[...] 
 What does System-admin-display say in the display tab? I find that I
 need to manually set that sometimes. I think I said
 system-config-display the first time, had the wrong WM in front of me.

On the first tab (Settings), it tells me I have a setting of 
1280x1024 (offering only smaller others), and millions of colors; on the 
second (Hardware), it acknowledges what I think I told it -- that I have 
an LCD panel 1680x1050. (Iirc, it had supposed I had a CRT; at least one 
machine did.)

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Re: Wine (?) spoiling F12 boot : MITIGATED

2009-12-30 Thread Bill Davidsen

BeartoothHOS wrote:

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:12:10 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
	[...] 

What does System-admin-display say in the display tab? I find that I
need to manually set that sometimes. I think I said
system-config-display the first time, had the wrong WM in front of me.


	On the first tab (Settings), it tells me I have a setting of 
1280x1024 (offering only smaller others), and millions of colors; on the 
second (Hardware), it acknowledges what I think I told it -- that I have 
an LCD panel 1680x1050. (Iirc, it had supposed I had a CRT; at least one 
machine did.)


What I have been doing is use the admin-display to get the display type right, 
check the video card (never had to change it), and then I could set size in the 
system-prefderences-hardware-screenResolution. If that sequence doesn't show 
the large sizes I have no other tricks (and haven't needed them to date).


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Re: Wine (?) spoiling F12 boot : MITIGATED

2009-12-28 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:22:17 +, I BeartoothHOS wrote:
[] 
   Between your post and Tom Horsley's, I happened to think of
 changing the driver -- and did, from nv to vesa. I don't now recall
 exactly what all else I did, but I do remember an oddity.
 
   At one point, I tried again to edit xorg.conf, and got a message
 saying it didn't exist. I ran system-config-display instead to create
 one -- and it did, with vesa instead of nv.
 
   After all that, I can still only set the display up to 1280x1024,
 not 1680x1050 (which this machine, I'm sure, did support before). But
 that's within the monitor's own ability to adapt to.

The same thing happened last night and this morning with my #1 
machine, and the same mitigation worked : vesa instead of nv, and 
1280x1024 instead of 1680x1050, with at leas one stage having been done 
with ssh from another machine. (I didn't think soon enough to try booting 
it into init 3; my guess is that that'd've worked too.)

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Re: Wine (?) spoiling F12 boot : MITIGATED

2009-12-28 Thread Bill Davidsen

BeartoothHOS wrote:

On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:53:22 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:



the the Preferences-Display to
set the resolution. Failing in this use system-config-display --xorg to
create a new file, then edit that. Only needed to do that on one
machine.


I got an error message denying the existence of  --xorg

Wow, did I misremember that one. The method is Xorg -configure and must be run 
as root.



I make no claim to be an expert, I just have learned not to shoot myself
in the foot.


	Between your post and Tom Horsley's, I happened to think of 
changing the driver -- and did, from nv to vesa. I don't now recall 
exactly what all else I did, but I do remember an oddity. 

	At one point, I tried again to edit xorg.conf, and got a message 
saying it didn't exist. I ran system-config-display instead to create one 
-- and it did, with vesa instead of nv.


	After all that, I can still only set the display up to 1280x1024, 
not 1680x1050 (which this machine, I'm sure, did support before). But 
that's within the monitor's own ability to adapt to.


What does System-admin-display say in the display tab? I find that I need to 
manually set that sometimes. I think I said system-config-display the first 
time, had the wrong WM in front of me.


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Re: Wine (?) spoiling F12 boot : MITIGATED

2009-12-27 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:53:22 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:

 BeartoothThpd30 wrote:
  Follow-ups set to gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general
[]
  Somewhere among all the above, I got disgusted with the
 display, which turned out to be 800x600 -- despite being connected
 directly (no KVM switch!) to the 1680x1050 monitor. The app I tried to
 correct with turned out (later, on another machine) *not* to be
 system-config-display, but something called gnome-display-properties;
 so I edited 1680x1050 into xorg.conf.
 
 Right about this point I cringe, I have had bad luck editing xorg.conf
 in recent Fedora. 

I hear you loud  clear; I've spent a lot of miserable time in 
that durance vile, on and off this list. Otoh, thanks to this discussion, 
I'm back on the machine now.

 In general Fedora will like you better if you don't
 have xorg.conf, which may have been related to part of the problem. 

That's news. I knew that it no longer existed by default ...

 At
 the recommendation of a number of people I use system-config-hardware to
 be sure the display type is set right, 

How do you get that? Neither yum nor PackageKit (nor yet yum 
whatprovides) seem to know aught of it.

 the the Preferences-Display to
 set the resolution. Failing in this use system-config-display --xorg to
 create a new file, then edit that. Only needed to do that on one
 machine.

I got an error message denying the existence of  --xorg

 I make no claim to be an expert, I just have learned not to shoot myself
 in the foot.

Between your post and Tom Horsley's, I happened to think of 
changing the driver -- and did, from nv to vesa. I don't now recall 
exactly what all else I did, but I do remember an oddity. 

At one point, I tried again to edit xorg.conf, and got a message 
saying it didn't exist. I ran system-config-display instead to create one 
-- and it did, with vesa instead of nv.

After all that, I can still only set the display up to 1280x1024, 
not 1680x1050 (which this machine, I'm sure, did support before). But 
that's within the monitor's own ability to adapt to.

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