Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-14 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 13:16 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Rejecting on a quoted/new threshold would certainly discourage excessive quoting, but deciding on the magic number would not be easy. Well, a 90:1 ought to get digest posts and not be a problem to others. Something high would be

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-13 Thread Tim
Tim: If it's technical possible for *this* list server to automatically reject quoted digest replies, I'd like to see it done. Patrick O'Callaghan: +1, but it could be tricky to pull off reliably. There are news servers which do it fairly well (reject for quoting, HTML, and other reasons).

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 02:14 +, g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- [...] poc, if 'appropriately edited', *Subject: * should also be changed to a new message, not just click 'reply'. clicking 'reply' would carry id of *Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol nn, Issue nnn*. would it not?

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 23:54 +0930, Tim wrote: Tim: If it's technical possible for *this* list server to automatically reject quoted digest replies, I'd like to see it done. Patrick O'Callaghan: +1, but it could be tricky to pull off reliably. There are news servers which do it fairly

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-13 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: snip On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 02:14 +, g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- [...] poc, if 'appropriately edited', *Subject: * should also be changed to a new message, not just click 'reply'. clicking 'reply'

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 20:03 +, g wrote: As I said, the digest is not itself a message on the list, true. but hitting this list it gets an id, totally unrelated to thread reply is to. so this doesn't matter. false. i understand and respect your knowledge. but you are not accepting

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 10:23 +0530, winiston wrote: Hi friends, [...] You did it again. Please stop copying the whole digest in your posts. It's completely pointless and counterproductive. Take a few seconds to remove extraneous material (see the Guidelines at

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 07:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: stop copying the whole digest in your posts If it's technical possible for *this* list server to automatically reject quoted digest replies, I'd like to see it done. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -r 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 Don't

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 22:57 +0930, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 07:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: stop copying the whole digest in your posts If it's technical possible for *this* list server to automatically reject quoted digest replies, I'd like to see it done. +1, but it could

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread James Kosin
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 22:57 +0930, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 07:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: stop copying the whole digest in your posts If it's technical possible for *this* list server to automatically reject quoted digest replies, I'd like to see

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Murphy wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 12:01 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 22:57 +0930, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 07:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: stop copying the whole digest in your posts If it's

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 17:37 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 12:01 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 22:57 +0930, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 07:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: stop copying the whole digest in your posts If it's

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: snip I have no idea what the OP was asking - I opened the original mail because it was a slow day, but when I saw the digest TOC, I just deleted it. Most days, I probably would have deleted it without even opening it.

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Ed Greshko
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: As I'm on individual mails, have just added on gmail.com subject fedora-list Digest goed to trash. This should be the last one I get. That will also trash messages that have been appropriately edited but retain the digest Subject line. I agree these are also

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 07:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: As I'm on individual mails, have just added on gmail.com subject fedora-list Digest goed to trash. This should be the last one I get. That will also trash messages that have been appropriately

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Ed Greshko
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'm curious...just how often does this problem present itself such that it generates as much backlash as it does? If you mean the problem of people quoting digests, there are some repeat offenders out there who just don't seem to get the idea, and it *is*

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Ed Greshko
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I'm curious...just how often does this problem present itself such that it generates as much backlash as it does? I think the fact that is generates so much backlash is what keeps it down - You get hammered for it, and do not get any help until you correct

Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 55, Issue 100

2008-09-12 Thread Aldo Foot
I think the fact that is generates so much backlash is what keeps it down - You get hammered for it, and do not get any help until you correct your behavior. And there are probably some that get hammered for it, stagger around a bit, and then move on to other places with a bad taste in their