Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-29 Thread Martín Marqués
2008/7/25 Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Craig White wrote:
 how can I enable fedora-testing and get these AND ONLY these packages?

 Perhaps something like this would work?

 yum --enablerepo updates-testing groupupdate 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)'

Is there a place we can find all the groups that Fedoras rpm has?

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-29 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 07:54 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote:
 Is there a place we can find all the groups that Fedoras rpm has?

Do you mean yum grouplist?

If so, you might also want to try:  yum grouplist groupname

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-29 Thread Martín Marqués
2008/7/29 Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 07:54 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote:
 Is there a place we can find all the groups that Fedoras rpm has?

 Do you mean yum grouplist?

 If so, you might also want to try:  yum grouplist groupname

How lazy of me. :-(

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 18:30 +, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan at gmail.com writes:
  Well, naturally it's up to me, but I was hoping for some insight into
  the relationship between the various repos. I started using kde-redhat a
  few weeks back in order to get a preview of KDE 4.1, and it has gone
  pretty well all in all. What I'd like to know is if there'll be some
  kind of transition period (as happens between Rawhide and the next
  Fedora release) during which changes to kde-redhat are frozen and people
  decide whether to continue on the bleeding edge or return to the
  official updates. I don't know if I'm making myself clear here, but
  what I want to avoid is a situation where I block kde-redhat and
  suddenly find a lot of broken dependencies.
 
 Normally, the packages in the official updates will have newer EVRs 
 (Epoch-Version-Releases, i.e. what defines RPM's version ordering) than 
 what's 
 currently in kde-redhat testing. Only some packages which stayed in 
 kde-redhat 
 unstable will not be included in the official updates: cmake 2.6, kdepim 4.1, 
 and the alpha versions Amarok 2 and KOffice 2. I expect these to stay in 
 kde-redhat unstable. So you should not run into broken dependencies.

OK, sounds good. However since I don't really want updates-testing for
everything else (i.e. non KDE stuff) I may just wait till it goes to
updates.

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 13:55 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
  Well, naturally it's up to me, but I was hoping for some insight into
  the relationship between the various repos. 
 
 kde-redhat is a personal repo of mine. essentially the rawhide of kde, 
 where I sometimes put the latest kde bits built for fedora releases (like 
 F-9, F-8) and/or other experimental stuff before it lands in official fedora 
 updates or updates-testing.
 
 Any problems or conflicts between fedora and kde-redhat's stable/testing 
 repos are considered a bug, and I will do my best to fix these asap.
 
 kde-redhat's unstable repos are on-par with rawhide, experimental, sometimes 
 solid (and sometimes not), expect breakage from time to time.  Any 
 field-testing or feedback provided here greatly helps the development process.
 
 In this particular case, I built and provided kde-4.0.99 (and earlier) pkgs 
 prior to building anything officially for fedora.  The aforementioned 
 official pending updates will supercede (and upgrade) most everything from 
 kde-redhat (stable/testing).  kde-redhat/unstable will continue to track kde 
 rawhide/F-10 development, so it'll continue to have stuff lacking in official 
 F-9 updates, including (kde4) apps like amarok2, koffice2, digikam.

Thanks for your efforts Rex.

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-26 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 22:33 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 Craig White wrote:
  On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:20 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
  A kde-4.1-rc2 update is queued for release to fedora 9's updates-testing
  repository.  It is meant for testing the upcoming KDE 4.1 release and to
  filter last-minute bugs.  Please help test and offer feedback
  http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-6743
  
  toss me a bone here...
  
  how can I enable fedora-testing and get these AND ONLY these packages?
  something like this?  ...
 
 something close to that should work, yeah.  
 
 See also:
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing
 

problem...

# yum --enablerepo=updates-testing install kdesdk kdebase kdepimlibs sip
qscintilla qgtkstyle kdeedu kdebindings soprano kdeplasma-addons
kdegames kdeaccessibility compiz kdenetwork kdegraphics kdeadmin
kdebase-runtime PyQt4 automoc phonon WebKit kde-filesystem kdeutils
akonadi kdetoys kdemultimedia kdebase-workspace kdeartwork kdelibs qt

 much clippage 

kdebindings-4.0.99-1.fc9.i386 from updates-testing has depsolving
problems
  -- Missing Dependency: libqscintilla2.so.2 is needed by package
kdebindings-4.0.99-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing)
Error: Missing Dependency: libqscintilla2.so.2 is needed by package
kdebindings-4.0.99-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing)

# yum --enablerepo=updates-testing search libqscintilla.so.2
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities, refresh-packagekit
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * updates-testing: mirror.lib.ucdavis.edu
 * livna: livna.cat.pdx.edu
 * fedora: ftp.uci.edu
 * adobe-linux-i386: linuxdownload.adobe.com
 * updates: ftp.uci.edu
Warning: No matches found for: libqscintilla.so.2
No Matches found

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-26 Thread José Matos
On Saturday 26 July 2008 16:50:46 Craig White wrote:
 
 problem...

 # yum --enablerepo=updates-testing install kdesdk kdebase kdepimlibs sip
 qscintilla qgtkstyle kdeedu kdebindings soprano kdeplasma-addons
 kdegames kdeaccessibility compiz kdenetwork kdegraphics kdeadmin
 kdebase-runtime PyQt4 automoc phonon WebKit kde-filesystem kdeutils
 akonadi kdetoys kdemultimedia kdebase-workspace kdeartwork kdelibs qt

  much clippage 

 kdebindings-4.0.99-1.fc9.i386 from updates-testing has depsolving
 problems
   -- Missing Dependency: libqscintilla2.so.2 is needed by package
 kdebindings-4.0.99-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing)
 Error: Missing Dependency: libqscintilla2.so.2 is needed by package
 kdebindings-4.0.99-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing)

 # yum --enablerepo=updates-testing search libqscintilla.so.2
 Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities, refresh-packagekit
 Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * updates-testing: mirror.lib.ucdavis.edu
  * livna: livna.cat.pdx.edu
  * fedora: ftp.uci.edu
  * adobe-linux-i386: linuxdownload.adobe.com
  * updates: ftp.uci.edu
 Warning: No matches found for: libqscintilla.so.2
 No Matches found

add --exclude=qscintilla* or --skip-broken to the end of the yum command. The 
end result will be the same. :-)

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-26 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 17:21 +0100, José Matos wrote:
 On Saturday 26 July 2008 16:50:46 Craig White wrote:
  
  problem...
 
  # yum --enablerepo=updates-testing install kdesdk kdebase kdepimlibs sip
  qscintilla qgtkstyle kdeedu kdebindings soprano kdeplasma-addons
  kdegames kdeaccessibility compiz kdenetwork kdegraphics kdeadmin
  kdebase-runtime PyQt4 automoc phonon WebKit kde-filesystem kdeutils
  akonadi kdetoys kdemultimedia kdebase-workspace kdeartwork kdelibs qt
 
   much clippage 
 
  kdebindings-4.0.99-1.fc9.i386 from updates-testing has depsolving
  problems
-- Missing Dependency: libqscintilla2.so.2 is needed by package
  kdebindings-4.0.99-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing)
  Error: Missing Dependency: libqscintilla2.so.2 is needed by package
  kdebindings-4.0.99-1.fc9.i386 (updates-testing)
 
  # yum --enablerepo=updates-testing search libqscintilla.so.2
  Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities, refresh-packagekit
  Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
   * updates-testing: mirror.lib.ucdavis.edu
   * livna: livna.cat.pdx.edu
   * fedora: ftp.uci.edu
   * adobe-linux-i386: linuxdownload.adobe.com
   * updates: ftp.uci.edu
  Warning: No matches found for: libqscintilla.so.2
  No Matches found
 
 add --exclude=qscintilla* or --skip-broken to the end of the yum command. The 
 end result will be the same. :-)

Thanks...apparently there is some clean up still required on kdebindings
and kdegraphics but that does allow it to get installed except,
developers should note the following on kdegraphics...

Transaction Check Error:
  file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.99-2.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386
  file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.99-2.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386
  file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.99-2.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386
  file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.99-2.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386
  file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kipi.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.99-2.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386
  file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/kipi.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.99-2.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386
  file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kipi.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.99-2.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386
  file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kipi.png from install of
kdegraphics-4.0.99-2.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9.i386

so I removed libkdcraw, digikam, libkipi and libkipi-devel packages in
order to get this installed.

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-26 Thread Rex Dieter
Craig White wrote:


 Thanks...apparently there is some clean up still required on kdebindings
 and kdegraphics but that does allow it to get installed except,
 developers should note the following on kdegraphics...
 
 Transaction Check Error:
   file /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/kdcraw.png from install of
 kdegraphics-4.0.99-2.fc9.i386 conflicts with file from package
 libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9.i386

These conflicts should be resolved in the latest libkdcraw updates (part of the 
risk of cherry-picking updates).

I'll have to double-check the qscintilla/kdebindings thing.

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-26 Thread Rex Dieter
Rex Dieter wrote:

 Craig White wrote:
 
 
 Thanks...apparently there is some clean up still required on kdebindings...
 I'll have to double-check the qscintilla/kdebindings thing.

confirmed.  we'll sort that out.

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Todd Zullinger tmz at pobox.com writes:
 Perhaps something like this would work?
 
 yum --enablerepo updates-testing groupupdate 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)'

Most likely not. The comps groups don't include libraries, and those should be 
upgraded too.

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2008/7/25 Kevin Kofler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Todd Zullinger tmz at pobox.com writes:
 Perhaps something like this would work?

 yum --enablerepo updates-testing groupupdate 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)'

 Most likely not. The comps groups don't include libraries, and those should be
 upgraded too.

Kevin Kofler

Wouldn't these be upgraded due to dependencies?


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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 22:19 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:20 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
  A kde-4.1-rc2 update is queued for release to fedora 9's updates-testing
  repository.  It is meant for testing the upcoming KDE 4.1 release and to
  filter last-minute bugs.  Please help test and offer feedback.
  http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-6743
 ...
  Should those of us using unstable and unstable-all from kde-redhat block
  these now in order to resync with the main updates repo?
 
 shrug, that's up to you, see also:
 http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4888B4C9.3030009%40math.unl.eduforum_name=kde-redhat-users

Well, naturally it's up to me, but I was hoping for some insight into
the relationship between the various repos. I started using kde-redhat a
few weeks back in order to get a preview of KDE 4.1, and it has gone
pretty well all in all. What I'd like to know is if there'll be some
kind of transition period (as happens between Rawhide and the next
Fedora release) during which changes to kde-redhat are frozen and people
decide whether to continue on the bleeding edge or return to the
official updates. I don't know if I'm making myself clear here, but
what I want to avoid is a situation where I block kde-redhat and
suddenly find a lot of broken dependencies.

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan at gmail.com writes:
 Well, naturally it's up to me, but I was hoping for some insight into
 the relationship between the various repos. I started using kde-redhat a
 few weeks back in order to get a preview of KDE 4.1, and it has gone
 pretty well all in all. What I'd like to know is if there'll be some
 kind of transition period (as happens between Rawhide and the next
 Fedora release) during which changes to kde-redhat are frozen and people
 decide whether to continue on the bleeding edge or return to the
 official updates. I don't know if I'm making myself clear here, but
 what I want to avoid is a situation where I block kde-redhat and
 suddenly find a lot of broken dependencies.

Normally, the packages in the official updates will have newer EVRs 
(Epoch-Version-Releases, i.e. what defines RPM's version ordering) than what's 
currently in kde-redhat testing. Only some packages which stayed in kde-redhat 
unstable will not be included in the official updates: cmake 2.6, kdepim 4.1, 
and the alpha versions Amarok 2 and KOffice 2. I expect these to stay in 
kde-redhat unstable. So you should not run into broken dependencies.

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-25 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 19:27 -0300, Germán Racca wrote:
 I'm using KDE 4.0.5.
 How can I install KDE 4.0.99 in a separate place in F9?
 I mean, I don't want to override or upgrade KDE 4.0.5, I just whant to
 have the option to choose between KDE 4.0.5, KDE 4.0.99, GNOME, etc...
 Thanks,

you can't unless you have complete installs in different partitions

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kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-24 Thread Rex Dieter

Just to give a word of warning (and spread hype. :) )

A kde-4.1-rc2 update is queued for release to fedora 9's updates-testing
repository.  It is meant for testing the upcoming KDE 4.1 release and to
filter last-minute bugs.  Please help test and offer feedback.

http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-6743

kde-4.1 (final) is scheduled for release on July 29, and subsequent
fedora updates will come shortly after.

brought to you by your friendly neighborhood fedora kde-sig
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE

See also:
http://rdieter.livejournal.com/9088.html
http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.1-rc1.php
http://dot.kde.org/1216132899/

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:20 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 Just to give a word of warning (and spread hype. :) )
 
 A kde-4.1-rc2 update is queued for release to fedora 9's updates-testing
 repository.  It is meant for testing the upcoming KDE 4.1 release and to
 filter last-minute bugs.  Please help test and offer feedback.
 
 http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-6743
 
 kde-4.1 (final) is scheduled for release on July 29, and subsequent
 fedora updates will come shortly after.
 
 brought to you by your friendly neighborhood fedora kde-sig
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE
 
 See also:
 http://rdieter.livejournal.com/9088.html
 http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.1-rc1.php
 http://dot.kde.org/1216132899/

Should those of us using unstable and unstable-all from kde-redhat block
these now in order to resync with the main updates repo?

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-24 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:20 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 Just to give a word of warning (and spread hype. :) )
 
 A kde-4.1-rc2 update is queued for release to fedora 9's updates-testing
 repository.  It is meant for testing the upcoming KDE 4.1 release and to
 filter last-minute bugs.  Please help test and offer feedback.
 
 http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-6743
 
 kde-4.1 (final) is scheduled for release on July 29, and subsequent
 fedora updates will come shortly after.

toss me a bone here...

how can I enable fedora-testing and get these AND ONLY these packages?

something like this? (I get an error on all these packages I presume
because you said these packages are 'queued' and not in the repositories
yet)...

yum --enablerepo=updates-testing install \
kdesdk-4.0.99-2 \
kdebase-4.0.99-1 \
kdepimlibs-4.0.99-1 \
sip-4.7.6-1.fc9 \
qscintilla-2.2-3.fc9 \
qgtkstyle-0.0-0.2.20080719svn693 \
kdeedu-4.0.99-1 \
kdebindings-4.0.99-1 \
soprano-2.1-1 \
kdeplasma-addons-4.0.99-1 \
kdegames-4.0.99-1 \
kdeaccessibility-4.0.99-1 \
compiz-0.7.6-3 \
kdenetwork-4.0.99-1 \
kdegraphics-4.0.99-2 \
kdeadmin-4.0.99-1 \
kdebase-runtime-4.0.99-2 \
PyQt4-4.4.2-2 \
automoc-1.0-0.7.beta2 \
phonon-4.2.0-2 \
WebKit-1.0.0-0.12.svn34655 \
kde-filesystem-4-17 \
kdeutils-4.0.99-1 \
akonadi-0.82.0-1 \
kdetoys-4.0.99-1 \
kdemultimedia-4.0.99-1 \
kdebase-workspace-4.0.99-3 \
kdeartwork-4.0.99-1 \
kdelibs-4.0.99-2 \
qt-4.4.0-16

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-24 Thread Rex Dieter
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:20 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 A kde-4.1-rc2 update is queued for release to fedora 9's updates-testing
 repository.  It is meant for testing the upcoming KDE 4.1 release and to
 filter last-minute bugs.  Please help test and offer feedback.
 http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-6743
...
 Should those of us using unstable and unstable-all from kde-redhat block
 these now in order to resync with the main updates repo?

shrug, that's up to you, see also:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=4888B4C9.3030009%40math.unl.eduforum_name=kde-redhat-users

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-24 Thread Rex Dieter
Craig White wrote:

 I presume
 because you said these packages are 'queued' and not in the repositories
 yet)...

yes. .  I wanted to make sure folks had a chance to see an announcement 
*before* stuff happened.

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-24 Thread Rex Dieter
Craig White wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 21:20 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
 A kde-4.1-rc2 update is queued for release to fedora 9's updates-testing
 repository.  It is meant for testing the upcoming KDE 4.1 release and to
 filter last-minute bugs.  Please help test and offer feedback
 http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-6743
 
 toss me a bone here...
 
 how can I enable fedora-testing and get these AND ONLY these packages?
 something like this?  ...

something close to that should work, yeah.  

See also:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-24 Thread Todd Zullinger
Craig White wrote:
 how can I enable fedora-testing and get these AND ONLY these packages?

Perhaps something like this would work?

yum --enablerepo updates-testing groupupdate 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)'

That wouldn't be quite as limited as the command you had, but it's
sure a lot less to type. :)

(I can't test this properly, since I don't have kde installed.)

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Re: kde-4.1 coming soon to f9/updates-testing

2008-07-24 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 23:36 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
 Craig White wrote:
  how can I enable fedora-testing and get these AND ONLY these packages?
 
 Perhaps something like this would work?
 
 yum --enablerepo updates-testing groupupdate 'KDE (K Desktop Environment)'
 
 That wouldn't be quite as limited as the command you had, but it's
 sure a lot less to type. :)
 
 (I can't test this properly, since I don't have kde installed.)

well since the repository isn't populated, no one can test it. I had the
feeling that the group designation may not be complete and besides, I
was able to get the list of packages from the website that Rex linked to
- so I was figuring I could just copy/paste at this point.

Craig

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