o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message You guys have such a wealth of knowledge and experience. Does anyone know if there's anything to worry about when a cat has a habit of a) pressing its forehead against your chest (Tiger, myobsessive compulsive disorder/kitty Prozaccat) OR (different cat) b) poking its

RE: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread Chris
Title: Message I dont know about that I have one who does this to get petted Somebody once told mean that cats who were weaned too early do this and one who falls asleep sometimes with part of her tongue hanging outgo figure Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-

RE: Kerry and Tiger litter box

2005-11-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message Thanks Tonya. (Guess no one's told Rubbermaid...yet.) Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:40 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Kerry and Tiger litter box

RE: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread Chris
Title: Message Pressing head against chest The person who told me that is one who has one cat who does this the minute your pick him upvet told her about too early weaning Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message Y'lnow, before Tiger came into my life, I would never have believed how many problems too-early-weaning creates for a cat. It's so sad. And these are lifelong problems. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ChrisSent: Sunday,

Re: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread carrie chance
Title: Message hummm, not to interupt, but I Bottlefeed babies, anyways mostbottle babies do this regardless, as it is a sign of affection towards their MOM, who was a human, and not a mom cat. So maybe if your baby was weened to early, you are getting the same result. Therefore I would

RE: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message Thanks--all feedback welcome! I should maybe clarify here---Tiger came to me as an young adultstreet cat.I have no knowledge of his early history. It seemshighlyprobable he was abandoned too young, andsurvived on the street. But interesting that you know all about the

Re: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread carrie chance
Title: Message right, its a comfort thing, they don't feel well and the pressing gives them comfort, making them feel better, like their mom would do when they were little, nudging on them.. moms give comfort, carrie - Original Message - From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. To:

RE: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message It's sad. I don't know Pookie well enough yet to know if it's chronic behavior with him. It certainly is with Tiger. He can never feel totally ok at peace. In her book, Frazier said something to the effect that early weaning produces lifelong problems -- a life sentence that

Re: Conflict on being vegan

2005-11-27 Thread catatonya
I've been vegetarian over 20 years, and my father STILL has to make rude comments about it at family gatherings.. and they wonder why I try to get out of them. I don't go if I can possibly avoid them. It's not worth it, plus it's depressing to walk into the dining room with dead animals

Pills

2005-11-27 Thread veggiepugs
Patti- Not sure if it's spelled with an I or a Y i forgot to look before I wrote back...lol. Anyhow, yes I definitely need them in liquid form, this is IMPOSSIBLE. Pills are flying everywhere when he shakes his head and im getting bitten and scratched by a sweet cat! He took the liquid form of

vegetarianism

2005-11-27 Thread catatonya
There's also a Native American poem called "Birdfoot's Grandpa" about getting frogs off of the road during a rainstorm or something. It was in our reading book at school. It's hard to slip too much in as a teacher, but I use every opportunity I can get. lol.I love when parents come into my

Re: Pills

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
I forgot to mention, but I'm betting someone else already has, using a piller. Sooo much easier. Nina veggiepugs wrote: Patti- Not sure if it's spelled with an I or a Y i forgot to look before I wrote back...lol. Anyhow, yes I definitely need them in liquid form, this is IMPOSSIBLE. Pills

Re: evil vegans...?

2005-11-27 Thread catatonya
I have foundlots of people (the closer they are, such as friends and family!) to benegative toward vegetarians and vegans alike. I truly feel that in some cases it's ignorance on their part about how food animals are treated, sometimes they are not 'spiritually' (for lack of a better word)

Re: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
Hi Kerry, As some of the others have already pointed out, it sounds like Tiger's behavior is a variation on the head-butt, a sign of affection and a way to feel comforted. The tongue sticking out of the mouth thing, I've seen this before too, not usually on a regular basis though, I've never

Re: New Member

2005-11-27 Thread carrie chance
fip has fluid build up, but its pretty deadly and kille pretty fast, so doubt its that - Original Message - From: Allie Deaver To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: Re: New Member Carrie-She has fluid buildup in

Carrie

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
Hi Carrie, I haven't been keeping up with the list, so I'm not sure you're the new member with the kitty displaying paralysis symptoms. I've caught little bits of your story, and saw that Michelle Lomax did respond about her personal horror story with Revolution. Do you think that's what

Re: evil vegans...?

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
Tonya, Your comment about family reminded me of my sister-in-law's interpretation of why I refused ham at her table... I was newly dating my now husband, Bruce at the time. I found out years later that my sister in law was telling people I was Jewish, because I didn't want her pork! She

Re: Carrie

2005-11-27 Thread carrie chance
Hi Nina, No We have determined it to be toxoplasmosis, ugh, she is doing alot better only time will tell if she will fully recover, I am just thankful to see her playing again, and able to actually walk without falling over. So still crossing my fingers and doing lots of research on toxo

Re: Pills

2005-11-27 Thread Dudes
One other tip that might work today, Rebecca. You might try crushing the pill into powder, and then put it in a little bit of water or tuna water, and by little bit, I mean like a cc. A medicine cup usually works best for mixing such a small amount. Then draw it all up in a syringe and have it

Re: Pills

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
a wand thing with a slot at the end to hold the pill That's the "pill popper", (they're also called "pill guns"), I was talking about, I wouldn't want to pill without one. You place it toward the back of the throat, hit the plunger and down it goes. You don't have to hit the plunger hard,

Re: Carrie

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
I'm very pleased to hear that your baby is playing again, and doing better. I don't know much about toxo, but I seem to remember treatment options for it. At least you know what the heck you're dealing with. Prayers for your baby's full recovery, Nina carrie chance wrote: Hi Nina, No

Re: Carrie

2005-11-27 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS
Carrie, you asked about my symptoms Well I had toxo many years ago. It was first misdiagnosed as mono...I was in bed for three monthsI just remember being real tired and weak. couldn't eat. real swollen glands...that's all I really remember. They did not have a good treatment for it

Re: Pills

2005-11-27 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Rebecca and all, My apologies if this has already been mentioned - my email is running so slow that I haven't read all of the replies - but have you tried a pill popper? My son taught me a trick - after inserting the pill, put your finger gently into the side of the kitty's mouth. That seems

Re: Dry food/Nina~IBD

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
Hi Patti, I just found this email, sorry it's taken so long for me to respond. As far as you and that sign on your back... Yep, it's there, most humans aren't aware of it, but our furry friends sure do know a kind and open heart when they come across one. I'm convinced there's some sort of

RE: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message Thanks Nina--yes, you did send me the essence info. The flower pix are gorgeousrelaxing in themselves! I need to figure out the best one for Tiger. I guess I could start with Rescue Remedy since I already have that. Pookie looks to me as if he's having a majorpout when

Re: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
You can add the RR to the communal water dish. I'm pretty sure there's a place on that site that allows you to enter symptoms of distress and then lists recommendations, I could be thinking of another site though! For Tiger, there's also a flower essence, that was recommended for Gypsy, (St

Re: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
Oops, I think the St. Johns wart was actually recommended for Grace when she was "in and out" of her body. I bet there's one that would be more specific for Tiger. N Nina wrote: You can add the RR to the communal water dish. I'm pretty sure there's a place on that site that allows you

Re: Lost my sweet baby to felv

2005-11-27 Thread catatonya
Sherry,I'm so sorry for your loss. :( It sounds like you tried everything feasible to try. That's all we can do.Take care, tonyaSherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all I was reading some of your posts and you have really helped me to realize that I don't need to feel guilty for

RE: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message Like the idea of adding it to the water, esp with the positives, since I can't handle them. I can see I need to do some background reading on this to get up to speed. Yes, agree,the fact it can't hurt is so reassuring! Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Dry food/Nina~IBD

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
Also - have you tried adding a pinch of bone meal to their food? It's a band-aid sort of remedy, but it could help firm up their stools and give them the bonus of slowing the elimination process, thereby helping them to retain nutrients long enough to do them some good. N Nina wrote:

Declawing

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
Actually, they have made it illegal in West Hollywood, CA! Hooray! Here are some other measures people have taken to educate/ban the practice in CA. Slowly, slowly, slowly things are changing. Declawing for non-medical or cosmetic reasons (not for the benefit of the cat) is illegal or

Re: litterboxes

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
Lora, Ha! My, my you did take drastic measures!When we bought the living room furniture, we also got a new futon mattress. We were smart enough to leave it covered in the plastic it came in until Thanksgiving morning. Thank goodness we did, when I went to cut the plastic off, I found a

RE: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread Barb Moermond
Title: Message well, Smoky's been doing the press-the-top-of-the-head against surfaces - mostly my chest or hand or whatever - the last several days, but he's dealing with his 2nd bout of interstitial cystitis, so it makes sense about the pain.Bandit definitely weaned too early - I've never

Re: Pills

2005-11-27 Thread PEC2851
Rebecca, Yes, I know administering pills can be very difficult and stressful, both to the cat and guardian. And, as I said before, some cats are just about impossible to pill!! And cat bites are VERY nasty - you really have to be careful with them. So I would definitely opt for the liquid

Re: Conflict on being vegan

2005-11-27 Thread PEC2851
In a message dated 11/27/05 12:22:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He also still can't get it through his head that this includes chicken for some reason!?!? Ditto that for fish.. My reply is, "If it has a face" Patti

Re: evil vegans...?

2005-11-27 Thread PEC2851
Tonya, I understand everything that you're saying. I do what I can to educate my friends and family whenever I get a chance. I have found that after all these years, the majority of those I am closest to have accepted my lifestyle, and after listening to what motivated me to "change", have a

Re: Pills

2005-11-27 Thread PEC2851
Hmmm... I think you're the first to mention "pillers". I have half a dozen here if anyone's interested! LOL! I just can never work those things! Usually, the "one" time I get it right, the da_n pill gets stuck!! Patti

Re: evil vegans...?

2005-11-27 Thread PEC2851
In a message dated 11/27/05 1:42:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: She just couldn't understand any other reason for not wanting to eat pigs, so funny OMG!! Nina, that is TOO funny!

RE: Pills

2005-11-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message I never got them to work either! (It's hard to practise ahead of time...) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 6:24 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Pills

Re: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread Terri Brown
Title: Message ditto. I have 3 that do this. Terri in NJ - Original Message - From: carrie chance To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: Re: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs hummm, not to interupt, but I Bottlefeed

Re: RE: Postive and Negative Cats?

2005-11-27 Thread catatonya
Bonnie,How old were your cats who contracted the leukemia and died when you brought in the new kitten? When I brought in my positive kitten I had one other kitten, but the rest were adults. None of mine contracted the disease, but they had all been vaccinated though.tBONNIE J KALMBACH

Re: Postive and Negative Cats?

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
What seems to be the case is that a good many healthy adult non-vaccinated cats will either contract and then clear the virus, or never get it at all, some unfortunately as in Bonnie's case do obviously succumb. From my observations, it is highly unlikely for a healthy adult cat that has been

Thank you

2005-11-27 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Thank you all for your kind words.it is helping me to believe that I did the right thing and that I should not feel guilty,I will always wonder if I could have done more,but that is just me.She lived for her Temptations treats,I trained her (or she trained me) that if she gave me a kiss on the

Re: Thank you

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
Ah Sherry, you're breaking my heart. I too had a felv pos named Grace, I lost her in Sept, she was almost 2 yrs old. She was my special heart warmer, she would jump on my lap and press her little body against my chest until any troubles and strife would be replaced by her warm loving glow.

Re: Pills

2005-11-27 Thread catatonya
If you're talking about pilling flagyl/metronidazole (I didn't read carefully)... forget it!Get your vet to give you flagyl in 'treat' form. My vet has them. If your vet doesn't have them they need to be put in a plain capsule like someone suggested. These pills are very bitter. Good luck!

Re: o/t2 x feline behavior Qs

2005-11-27 Thread felv
We call those kissies. Tigger is my "kisser". He will rub down the sides ofmy face or chest with his head, but he also just plants his head against me at times too, and purrs. He's not in any pain, he's just being sweet. You see this motion more in dogs, where it's a sign of submission.

Pills and Vegetarianism (separate topics...lol)

2005-11-27 Thread veggiepugs
Warning...this is a LONG one and mostly about vegetarianism/animal activism. But first... Thanks for that note on the Native American poem...I'm going to look for that. Nina- That's my favorite veterinary resource Marvistavet! Thanks for that link. That's how I tried it but the problem was,

Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 203

2005-11-27 Thread veggiepugs
Hah..I just read this about the towel...lol...after I wrote back to a previous post...i should read thru everything before i reply but once again im impatient...lol I also have a syringe...from when I had guinea pigs and had to syringe feed the sick ones. :( Definitely going to try that!

Re: Pills and Vegetarianism (separate topics...lol)

2005-11-27 Thread Nina
It was suggested that I wrap my guinea pig in a towel...Maybe if I wrap him in a towel Why do I always forget to recommend the towel! N

Re: Pills and Vegetarianism (separate topics...lol)

2005-11-27 Thread PEC2851
In a message dated 11/28/05 12:06:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One, is the mad cowboy, who i don't know personally. Howard Lyman, ex-rancher - was 4th generation. He stood by Oprah's side when she battled the beef industry the Texas cattlemen. I had the