Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...

2016-06-08 Thread Ardy Robertson
Wondering what the vet’s reason for not wanting to prescribe Winstrol? Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 10:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Thank you all

Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Ardy Robertson
Yes, with the exception of Cally who is vaccinated, my cats are indoor-only except when I carry them outside on walks. The vet said it is possible that a mouse or bat could get inside, but not too likely. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel

Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Ardy Robertson
In Wisconsin, rabies vaccinations are actually required for dogs, but not for cats. But a lot of vets will not treat a cat that is not rabies vaccinated. Since Scotchie died from a rabies vaccination, I do not vaccinate for it unless they make me. Cally had to have surgery to be spayed, so she had

Re: [Felvtalk] regarding: Raltegravir for Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Ardy Robertson
I googled ‘Raltegravir HIV integrase inhibitor for feline FeLV’ and several articles popped up… I have a million things to get done tonight so I don’t have time to read them all tonight, but perhaps the information is online. Ardy From: Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis

2016-06-08 Thread Jane Gannon
- Original Message - From: "Jane Gannon" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis Hi Bob, I have had uveitis in two of my positive cats. One we gave metacam (many vets will not use this

Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Ardy Robertson
My vet never said that exactly, but the pet store manager told me the FeLV vaccine is not a good idea. Ardy -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 7:38 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject:

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-08 Thread Ardy Robertson
I’m just so happy that you had that kind of relationship with your fur-baby. The memories are wonderful. I recently adopted another cat even though I said I would not. No one will ever take Tigger’s place in my heart, but Topaz is easing the pain. I may never have that bond that I had with

Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Ardy Robertson
Amani - would you agree that Tigger's was the same type that Zander had also then? And I feel that the Winstrol was working for Tigger's bone marrow also - it just did not have enough time, in other words if I had gotten the Winstrol into him a few months earlier, we likely would have seen more

Re: [Felvtalk] Drug used for felv

2016-06-08 Thread Margo
My guess would be that there really hasn't been much indication it works. Cats can test negative, and just be in "remission". It's still there, in the marrow, and most people aren't going to do that kind of testing, and I'm not sure how reliable ANY of the tests are. It seems that in that

Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...

2016-06-08 Thread Amani Oakley
Really really interesting Margo. I had no idea but that was my experience with cats as well. They seem to have a weird metabolism that just thrives on steroids and, as far as I can tell so far anyway, they don’t seem to have a lot of downside effects either. Good to know my instincts all these

Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...

2016-06-08 Thread Margo
Old Vet saying when confronted with unknown unresponsive conditions in cats; "never let a cat die without benefit of steroids"In a last ditch effort, steroids "the silver bullet" can sometimes pull a dying cat back, and in most cases no-one really understands why. I have one here now. So I'm with

Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...

2016-06-08 Thread Rachel Dagner
I know you feel that way. I still can’t help but worry about long term use with something that suppresses the immune system when they are so susceptible to other infections and cancers as it is. If there is no other option besides long term use then it is what it is. I just hope Bob’s kitty

Re: [Felvtalk] Drug used for felv

2016-06-08 Thread Amani Oakley
One of the two papers suggests that the viral load decrease is temporary, so that may be why the FeLV tests might come back negative. However, the paper suggests that the viral load will return, though the abstract doesn't get into the effect on the cat's health. Amani -Original

Re: [Felvtalk] Drug used for felv

2016-06-08 Thread Realissa Dekraunti
Yes, Amani, I read those articles, but, still, I would like to hear from that lady whose cat came back testing negative. I contacted her facebook friends too, no luck. I know this drug is used for HIV in humans and Felv is similar to HIV. I am very grateful for this list, but, sorry to say

Re: [Felvtalk] regarding: Raltegravir for Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Amani Oakley
Rachel, I am so below water right now, it is just a pipe dream that this point! Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: June-08-16 4:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] regarding: Raltegravir for Felv Amani –

Re: [Felvtalk] regarding: Raltegravir for Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Rachel Dagner
Amani – This would have been nice information to add to the website… just sayin’. *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Amani Oakley *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 3:42 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] regarding: Raltegravir

Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Rachel Dagner
I agree completely, laws can cause some problems in my reasoning on this subject, I think I know what I would choose for an inside FELV kitty though, and it seems as if at least Lorrie’s vet agrees as he will not do them on her FELV cats for a reason. And it seems as if a vet agreed that an

Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...

2016-06-08 Thread Amani Oakley
Actually Rachel, with cats, who have a very different metabolism than we do (or dogs for that matter) they seem to do very very well on steroids and do not suffer the kinds of side effects one sees in humans on long term prednisone use, etc. Amani From: Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] regarding: Raltegravir for Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Amani Oakley
Realissa,, You can just do your own research on line. It is helpful to know the science behind it, and I have now found some articles online. This is a drug used in AIDS patients, and because the AIDS virus and FeLV are so similar, this is why they are looking to use it for FeLV. I have

Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Margo
"Titer" with one "t". An option in some cases, but by no means a guarantee. I seldom vaccinate against anything but Rabies past the first booster, but skipping Rabies can become problematic, since it is (generally) legally mandated.  Which means that a pet with no proof of vaccination can be

Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...

2016-06-08 Thread Margo
You can buy Standard Process on Amazon or eBay, or just get an order form from someone else who uses their product. My Mom ordered all the time, and sent me order blanks often. They also have on their websites how to find a Vet that will connect you (or order for you for a fee).Margo-Original

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-08 Thread dlgegg
I have several burial sites on my ground close to the house. When I run into too much rock (live on a rocky bluff), I start a new cemetary. I have 2 dogs and 0ver 20 cats buried in my flower gardens. Rachel Dagner wrote: > Thank you everyone for your kind replies.

Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread dlgegg
Sounds like you have a good one, stick with him/her. Lorrie wrote: > >Has anyone's vet ever advised them against vaccines for a FELV > >cat, or minimal vaccines, or spacing them out, being they have a > >compromised immune system? > - > > My vet

Re: [Felvtalk] Possums eat ticks (was: different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread dlgegg
I need to read this! We have lots of possums around her (live in the middle of the woods). I have noticed that Harley never has any fleas or ticks on him and he goes out all the time, wanders around the yard and then comes up on the deck, inds a comfortable spot and sleeps. kat

Re: [Felvtalk] Possums eat ticks (was: different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread kat
From: Cary Institute of Ecosystems Studies - http://www.caryinstitute.org/newsroom/opossums-killers-ticks "Several years ago, scientists ... tested six species — white-footed mice, chipmunks, squirrels, opossums and veerys and catbirds — by capturing and caging them, and then exposing each test

Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread dlgegg
My cats have not had vaccines for at least 5 years and they are healthy. They do not come into contact with others animals. When the coons coe around, they come to the door to be let in. Have more sense than some humans. We also do not do flea meds since Shorty ahd a severe reaction to

Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...

2016-06-08 Thread kat
Hi Robert,   If you need someone to get the Standard Process formulas for you - there is a chiropracter just over the NJ border (in Sussex) that carries them.  His name is Dr Wm Preston 973-875-8700.  You can tell him Kat recommended him.   Kat (Mew Jersey)   Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016

Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread dlgegg
That sounds like the time I asked the Dr. about my mother's wegeners disease. He said it is ideopathic. That means they do not know what is going on any more than you do. Rachel Dagner wrote: > I have never heard of that, and I have read a lot about it. And if

Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...

2016-06-08 Thread Rachel Dagner
What a relief it is helping, I am so glad! I pray that it is not chronic, taking steroids for long periods especially for life is not good. If it does turn out to be chronic maybe you could ask a holistic vet what they use that is more natural and easier on the system for long term use, and see

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-08 Thread dlgegg
I have been there so many times, over 20 now. You ask yourself "what more could I have done?", You did all you could, loved him, gave him food and shelter and loved him some more. I think I know how you feel, but not really, because each one is different. It will hurt for a long time and

Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...

2016-06-08 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Thank you all for your suggestions re: Uveitis.  As I wrote the original note more than a week ago much has happened since  I went back to see the Vet expecting to get Winstrol and got a different vet instead.  THIS one prescribed Prednisolone Opthalmic Ointment 3-4X qd for the badly

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker....

2016-06-08 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL
Rachel: Expected or otherwise there just never seems to be an adequate way to prepare for such a loss  I am SO sorry.  I can only wish you the very FAST passage of enough time to mitigate the sadness... Bob ___ Felvtalk mailing list

Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Rachel Dagner
That book I mentioned by Dr. Martin Goldstein mentions all kinds of illnesses that happened to animals coinciding with vaccines. Many vets believe that after a couple of vaccines they are protected for life, Goldstein does something called tittering so he can check the antibodies of his patients

Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Rachel Dagner
That is very good to know, thank you for sharing. My Chihuahua is 11 and she has always had a bad reaction to vaccines, the last 3 year rabies shot she got about 6 months ago resulted in a bump between her hip and rib cage that is still there, they said it is nothing to worry about, but I do not

Re: [Felvtalk] regarding: Raltegravir for Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Rachel Dagner
Did you try to send a message to a couple of her active friends? Maybe they know how to reach her. Sometimes people don’t go on Facebook much. *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Realissa Dekraunti *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 9:43 AM *To:*

[Felvtalk] regarding: Raltegravir for Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Realissa Dekraunti
the lady has not responded and has not seen my messages. I am desperately trying to get ahole of her. I don't know if it is appropriate to share her name here on this group? So, maybe you can all help me to get ahold of her? Her story is very inspiring

Re: [Felvtalk] different types of Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Lorrie
>Has anyone's vet ever advised them against vaccines for a FELV >cat, or minimal vaccines, or spacing them out, being they have a >compromised immune system? - My vet will not give vaccinations to any FelV cats, nor to any of my old cats. She also does not tell me to euthanize a

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-08 Thread Rachel Dagner
Thank you everyone for your kind replies. I knew it was going to be hard for me, it has been even harder than I ever imagined. I went through all of my adorable pictures of him last night. Remembered him how he was and imagined him that way again. He was such a cool and handsome little guy. I

Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

2016-06-08 Thread Katherine K.
I'm sorry about Tucker and for the pain you feel. I hope the happy memories you shared bring you comfort during this difficult time. We're here for you. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:37 AM, Ardy Robertson wrote: > I'm so sorry for your loss of Tucker. > > Ardy > > -Original

Re: [Felvtalk] Raltegravir for Felv

2016-06-08 Thread Rachel Dagner
Wow! That is very exciting to hear about. If that could help other kitties I would be over the moon. My biggest wish is that no one or their babies ever again have to go through what Tucker and I went through. I hope she gets back to you. If she does you should ask her for her vets information,