[Felvtalk] Beau - Please add to the CLS

2010-07-16 Thread Lorrie
Sherry
I'm so sorry you lost Beau.  There have been an awful lot of
losses on all my yahoo cat groups including my own 17 year old
cat who died on June 15th.  I know how sad you feel, but grief 
is the price we pay for love.

Lorrie 

On 07-15, Sherry DeHaan wrote:

 ?We another one of our wonderful Sids kids today. Beau was a
 special fellow in my heart.I ALWAYS looked for him every Thursday
 night after cleaning to give him treats.Her was pretty much a loner
 at the sanctuary,but I know he lovedme,he would give me kisses by
 licking the top of my head.I had a good night with him Monday
 knowing it would be the last time I would see him.I told him how
 much I loved him and always will,and I even got a little bit of a
 kiss from him and ALOT of purrs.I LOVE YOU Beau Beau kitty. Sherry
 
 
 We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
 than our own,
 Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
 We still would have it no other way
 

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[Felvtalk] Fwd: OT-deaf/blind dog at Houston kill shelter

2010-07-16 Thread Heather
I am sorry, this is so OT, but I recall there may be some Texas rescue
contacts on this list so hope that, in the interest of this special pup, it
is ok I post her in case anyone can help get the word out in Houston/Tx.

Thank you!

-- Forwarded message --
From: Olya Grove
Date: Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM
Subject: please cross post!

sad doggie at Animal Services in Houston TX  really needs help
http://deafanimals.blogspot.com/2010/07/houston-tx-deafblind-miniature-pinscher.html

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: to Paola - Mixing positives negatives

2010-07-16 Thread dlgegg
Paola, here is my two cents worth.  i have 8 cats, 2 are felv+.  my vet said as 
long as the negatives are up to date on their shots and the positives are not 
stressed out, have good food and given good care, there should not be any 
problem.  been 2 years + and still no problem.  they have hissing/slapping 
encounters, but no real biting.  everyone is fat, sassy and healthy, especially 
the felv+ girls.  of course, they were all at least 1yr old when i got them, 
not kittens.  i did rescue 2 kittens headed for animal control (take them out 
along the highway and shoot them) and i could not let that happen.  they were 
healthy, but i kept them seperate from others until they had their kitten shots 
completed.  since then, they rule the house.  my babies all go in and out since 
i live in the middle of the woods, not  a lot of traffic on my gravel road.  
they come in at night because of coyotes, etc.  going out gives all a way to 
work off the excess energy and be prepared for a full night's rest.
 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 
 
 
 Paola -
 
 In the past I have always mixed my positives  negatives. I did this on the 
 advice of my vet, who said I would simply stress the positives by keeping 
 them separate. I vaccinated my negatives every 6 months, again, on the advice 
 of my vet. One of my FeLV negatives was an FIV+  in all the years I mixed, 
 none of my negatives, including my FIV cat, ever go the FeLV.
 Right now I do not mix simply because one of my negative cats has Stomatitis 
  I recently spent $3,000 saving his life from Hemobartonella, which we 
 believe he got from a depressed immune system because of the steroids he is 
 on. So, understandably, I am paranoid right now about exposing him to 
 anything else.
 But when I did mix (and I had 5 positives  5 negatives for a long while), I 
 didn't separate them in any way. They all shared food, water, litter; they 
 groomed
  each other, etc.
 All my negatives have been retested several times over the years  have 
 remained negative. 
 I even had a foster kitten who had FeLV  died from FIP. He lived in my 
 bedroom with one of my negative cats for months. My cat never got the FeLV or 
 the FIP.
 
 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   
 
 --- On Tue, 7/13/10, paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 From: paola cresti
  iend...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 12:17 AM
 
 a question, I saw posts from 2 people having FeLV+ cats in the house with non 
 affected cats. How do you gys manage that?
 I just rescued a stray that turned out to be incredibly sweet and FeLV+ but I 
 have 6 others that are indoor/outdoor  so they are all vaccinated for FeLV 
 but 
 since it's not 100% I am keeping rescue kitty in the garage and hoping to 
 find 
 someone with a closed household willing to take him as a sole cat or an 
 additional cat to a household with another FeLV+ cat.  Having no luck so far 
 (found a possible person with 2 infected cats in NY but I'm in Los Angeles) 
 
 
 I'm looking into what I must do if I keep him and for this I also joined this 
 listserv. Do you have them mingle? I figure food dishes should
  definitely be 
 kept separate. My cats are indoor/outdoor and I caught a feral last year who 
 was 
 also FeLV+ so I'm thinking it's been going around and if they were likely to 
 catch it they might have already done so?
 
 I know it's not an exact science but this cat's desperate about being left 
 alone 
 in a room, I sit with him for a while but when I leave he cries for a really 
 long time.
 
 Sorry for the long post.
 thanks
 Paola
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Brown spider (loxosceles reclusa) bite leads to hemolytic anemia

2010-07-16 Thread dlgegg
WOULD LIKE TO COMPARE NOTES.  I WAS BITTEN BY A SPIDER (AT LEAST THE DR ASSUMES 
IT WAS LAST YEAR AND ENDED UP AT ER.  AN AREA THE SIZE OF MY HAND WAS SWOLLEN, 
RED AND ITCHED LIKE CRAZY.  DR SAID WOULD GRADUALLY EASE AND CLEAR UP.  IT DID 
AND THEN THIS USMMER WHEN IT STARTED GETTING HOT, THAT SAME AREA ITCHES AND IS 
COVERED WITH SMALL, HARD BUMPS.  NO SWELLING THIS TIME, JUST RED( COULD BE 
BECAUSE IT ITCHES AND I SCRATCH IT).  HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED THIS?  MY CATS DO GO 
OUTSIDE AND ROAM THE WOODS AROUND MY HOUSE.  NOW I AM MORE WORRIED ABOUT 
SPIDERS THAN COYOTES.
 LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 I was bitten by one last November. My wound didn't become necrotic - but the 
 swollen area was about 10 in diameter, it was tremendously painful and I 
 have a discolored  noticeable concavity in my leg at the bite site which 
 will probably be permanent. Since that time I have suffered from constant 
 exhaustion along with muscle spasms in the affected leg that are sometimes 
 non-stop.
 So, I am always on the lookout for them. Interesting - I would love to see 
 the research if you would kindly email it to me.
 
 --- On Sat, 7/10/10, Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 From: Ana Gutierrez ana...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Brown spider (loxosceles reclusa) bite leads to hemolytic 
 anemia
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 11:53 PM
 
 
 Dears,
 
 I keep thinking of how fast I lost Beltza, and hence I keep researching.
 Just to find out that is very weird*, but that the bite of a *Loxosceles
 reclusa* causes hemolytic anemia.
 
 *weird in adults, not that weird in children -- I would say, not that weird
 in our cats.
 
 I don't know if these spiders are common where you live, but please google a
 pic of them so you can recognize it --and kill it--- when you see one.
 Please don't expose your kitties to this bug.
 
 Best,
 Ana
 
 PS. If someone wants the original scientific papers I've read, let me know,
 so I can email them
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Re: [Felvtalk] Beau Please add to the CLS :(

2010-07-16 Thread Sharyl
Sherry, so sorry to read that Beau has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. He sounds 
like a very special fella.  The only thing that helps me is knowing our Angels 
are now happily romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies.

I'll light a candle for him tonight.
Sharyl 

--- On Thu, 7/15/10, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Beau  Please add to the CLS :(
 To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 9:57 PM
  We another one of our wonderful
 Sids kids today. Beau was a special fellow in my heart.I
 ALWAYS looked for him every Thursday night after cleaning to
 give him treats.Her was pretty much a loner at the
 sanctuary,but I know he lovedme,he would give me kisses by
 licking the top of my head.I had a good night with him
 Monday knowing it would be the last time I would see him.I
 told him how much I loved him and always will,and I even got
 a little bit of a kiss from him and ALOT of purrs.I LOVE YOU
 Beau Beau kitty.
 Sherry
 
 
 We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more
 temporary
 than our own,
 Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
 We still would have it no other way
 
 
       
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Re: [Felvtalk] Beau Please add to the CLS :(

2010-07-16 Thread Sara Kasteleyn
Sherry.so very sorry to hear about Beau.  Your Thursday nights will be
especially lonely for a while.  Someone special will let you know they are
eager for your love and extra attention soon.  

We will light a candle in SoCal for Beau this evening.  Blessings to you,
Sara


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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:58 PM
To: Felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Beau Please add to the CLS :(

 We another one of our wonderful Sids kids today. Beau was a special fellow
in my heart.I ALWAYS looked for him every Thursday night after cleaning to
give him treats.Her was pretty much a loner at the sanctuary,but I know he
lovedme,he would give me kisses by licking the top of my head.I had a good
night with him Monday knowing it would be the last time I would see him.I
told him how much I loved him and always will,and I even got a little bit of
a kiss from him and ALOT of purrs.I LOVE YOU Beau Beau kitty.
Sherry


We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary
than our own,
Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
Unable to accept its awful gaps.
We still would have it no other way


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Beau Please add to the CLS :(

2010-07-16 Thread Natalie
To everyone who has lost a little furry friend:

Beyond The Rainbow
As much as I loved the life we had and all the times we played, 
I was so very tired and knew my time on earth would fade. 
I saw a wondrous image then of a place that's trouble-free 
Where all of us can meet again to spend eternity. 

I saw the most beautiful Rainbow, and on the other side 
Were meadows rich and beautiful -- lush and green and wide! 
And running through the meadows as far as the eye could see 
Were animals of every sort as healthy as could be! 
My own tired, failing body was fresh and healed and new 
And I wanted to go run with them, but I had something left to do. 

I needed to reach out to you, to tell you I'm alright 
That this place is truly wonderful, then a bright Glow pierced the night. 
'Twas the Glow of many Candles shining bright and strong and bold 
And I knew then that it held your love in its brilliant shades of gold. 

For although we may not be together in the way we used to be, 
We are still connected by a cord no eye can see. 
So whenever you need to find me, we're never far apart 
If you look beyond the Rainbow and listen with your heart. 

cg - 1995

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:10 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Beau Please add to the CLS :(

Sherry, so sorry to read that Beau has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. He sounds
like a very special fella.  The only thing that helps me is knowing our
Angels are now happily romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies.

I'll light a candle for him tonight.
Sharyl 

--- On Thu, 7/15/10, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Beau  Please add to the CLS :(
 To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 9:57 PM
  We another one of our wonderful
 Sids kids today. Beau was a special fellow in my heart.I
 ALWAYS looked for him every Thursday night after cleaning to
 give him treats.Her was pretty much a loner at the
 sanctuary,but I know he lovedme,he would give me kisses by
 licking the top of my head.I had a good night with him
 Monday knowing it would be the last time I would see him.I
 told him how much I loved him and always will,and I even got
 a little bit of a kiss from him and ALOT of purrs.I LOVE YOU
 Beau Beau kitty.
 Sherry
 
 
 We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more
 temporary
 than our own,
 Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
 We still would have it no other way
 
 
       
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Re: [Felvtalk] Beau Please add to the CLS :(

2010-07-16 Thread Ana Gutierrez
Sherry,

Beau it's with Beltza now. I am sure they will play together.

I am really sorry. Lots of hugs,
Ana




 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com
 To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:57:42 -0700 (PDT)
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Beau Please add to the CLS :(
  We another one of our wonderful Sids kids today. Beau was a special fellow
 in my heart.I ALWAYS looked for him every Thursday night after cleaning to
 give him treats.Her was pretty much a loner at the sanctuary,but I know he
 lovedme,he would give me kisses by licking the top of my head.I had a good
 night with him Monday knowing it would be the last time I would see him.I
 told him how much I loved him and always will,and I even got a little bit of
 a kiss from him and ALOT of purrs.I LOVE YOU Beau Beau kitty.
 Sherry


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 than our own,
 Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.
 Unable to accept its awful gaps.
 We still would have it no other way



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[Felvtalk] Great story of taming feral cats Japanese style via treehugger

2010-07-16 Thread dana giordano
I know some of you work with feral cat communities and wanted to pass this
on.

I thought this story was pretty great. They call it cat rehab. A surprising
and unexpected way to deal with a feral cats killing actual endangered
species.

Check it out!

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/07/cat-rehab-weans-feral-felines-off-endandered-birds.php?campaign=daily_n

l*

*Dana*


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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: to Paola - Mixing positives negatives

2010-07-16 Thread paola cresti
Thanks you all so much for your input.
It's really helpful to know it can work.
All my cats are adults and indoor/outdoor hence they were vaccinated and 
chances 
are they've mingled in places where FeLV+ cats had been.. hopefully it means 
it's working and/or they are immune.
I will exercise caution just the same as one is also Diabetic.

Thanks you so much and kudos to all of you for also not giving up on a kitty 
just because they are infected with this terrible disease.

Paola





From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 7:41:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re:   to Paola - Mixing positives  negatives

Paola, here is my two cents worth.  i have 8 cats, 2 are felv+.  my vet said as 
long as the negatives are up to date on their shots and the positives are not 
stressed out, have good food and given good care, there should not be any 
problem.  been 2 years + and still no problem.  they have hissing/slapping 
encounters, but no real biting.  everyone is fat, sassy and healthy, especially 
the felv+ girls.  of course, they were all at least 1yr old when i got them, 
not 
kittens.  i did rescue 2 kittens headed for animal control (take them out along 
the highway and shoot them) and i could not let that happen.  they were 
healthy, 
but i kept them seperate from others until they had their kitten shots 
completed.  since then, they rule the house.  my babies all go in and out since 
i live in the middle of the woods, not  a lot of traffic on my gravel road.  
they come in at night because of coyotes, etc.  going out gives all a way to 
work off the excess energy and be prepared for a full night's rest.
 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 
 
 
 Paola -
 
 In the past I have always mixed my positives  negatives. I did this on the 
advice of my vet, who said I would simply stress the positives by keeping them 
separate. I vaccinated my negatives every 6 months, again, on the advice of my 
vet. One of my FeLV negatives was an FIV+  in all the years I mixed, none of 
my 
negatives, including my FIV cat, ever go the FeLV.
 Right now I do not mix simply because one of my negative cats has Stomatitis 
  
I recently spent $3,000 saving his life from Hemobartonella, which we believe 
he 
got from a depressed immune system because of the steroids he is on. So, 
understandably, I am paranoid right now about exposing him to anything else.
 But when I did mix (and I had 5 positives  5 negatives for a long while), I 
didn't separate them in any way. They all shared food, water, litter; they 
groomed
  each other, etc.
 All my negatives have been retested several times over the years  have 
remained negative. 

 I even had a foster kitten who had FeLV  died from FIP. He lived in my 
 bedroom 
with one of my negative cats for months. My cat never got the FeLV or the FIP.
 
 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   
 
 --- On Tue, 7/13/10, paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 From: paola cresti
  iend...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 12:17 AM
 
 a question, I saw posts from 2 people having FeLV+ cats in the house with non 
 affected cats. How do you gys manage that?
 I just rescued a stray that turned out to be incredibly sweet and FeLV+ but I 
 have 6 others that are indoor/outdoor  so they are all vaccinated for FeLV 
 but 

 since it's not 100% I am keeping rescue kitty in the garage and hoping to 
 find 

 someone with a closed household willing to take him as a sole cat or an 
 additional cat to a household with another FeLV+ cat.  Having no luck so far 
 (found a possible person with 2 infected cats in NY but I'm in Los Angeles) 
 
 
 I'm looking into what I must do if I keep him and for this I also joined this 
 listserv. Do you have them mingle? I figure food dishes should
  definitely be 
 kept separate. My cats are indoor/outdoor and I caught a feral last year who 
was 

 also FeLV+ so I'm thinking it's been going around and if they were likely to 
 catch it they might have already done so?
 
 I know it's not an exact science but this cat's desperate about being left 
alone 

 in a room, I sit with him for a while but when I leave he cries for a really 
 long time.
 
 Sorry for the long post.
 thanks
 Paola
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
  
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