Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-06 Thread Marcia Baronda
I'm going to look for that website. Knowledge is power, isn't it? That's why I 
am here(: the CDC has some info too. I have Dr Don Hamiltons book on 
Homeopathy. And a couple other homeopathic books. They all say that the rabies 
vaccine lasts for quite a good while, along with paneleukopenia vaccine. It's 
all very fascinating, what we are told and what the truth is! 

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On Jan 6, 2012, at 5:48 AM, Maureen Olvey  wrote:

> Also, there's that group that is doing the research about how long a rabies 
> vaccine is actually good for.  Their website has lots of info too like about 
> the rodents not carrying rabies and why.  It also talks about things like 
> that the rabies virus can be in an animal's system for months but it's only 
> contagious at the very last stage when the animal starts going beserk.  At 
> that last stage the animal will die in less than 10 days.  That's why if your 
> dog bites someone they only have a 10 day quarantine period.  I learned a lot 
> from that one website.  Wish I could remember the name of the group but I'm 
> sure if you google rabies it will come up.
> 
> > From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:26:49 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
> > 
> > Oh, Thank you for the info. I'm going to do some reading on this(-:
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
> > 2010. 
> > 
> > On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS  wrote:
> > 
> > > Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
> > > They hunters did that in the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in the
> > > East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were killed, 
> > > whether
> > > sick or not.
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
> > > 
> > > Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
> > > 2010. 
> > > 
> > > On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS  wrote:
> > > 
> > >> The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters, 
> > >> after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so they 
> > >> brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.
> > >> 
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
> > >> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
> > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
> > >> 
> > >> I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other 
> > >> rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the 
> > >> heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest 
> > >> region of raccoons carrying rabies!
> > >> 
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >> 
> > >> On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM,  wrote:
> > >> 
> > >>> My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I 
> > >>> live in
> > >> th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can 
> > >> pass rabbies on. I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
> > >>>  Lorrie  wrote: 
> >  I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
> >  and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
> >  
> >  On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
> > > I think I might have mentioned it to you guys before but in 
> > > case I didn't, studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies 
> > > vaccinations will provide immunity for at least 4 years. 
> > > Interesting huh? I need to check out that group again to see 
> > > if they've found anything else out or if it actually last longer 
> > > than the 4 years even. I know they were doing more research studies.
> > > Will most vets give the 3 year one to a kitten? Most vets I've 
> > > been to recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and 
> > > then the next year they get the 3 year one.
> >  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-06 Thread Lorrie
Where we live, in the mountains of WV, they drop bait from low flying
aircraft. This is oral rabies vaccine for the raccoons to eat. They
haven't done this for several years, but did at one time. I have no
idea how sucessful it was.

Lorrie

On 01-05, MaiMaiPG wrote:
> According to Fish and Wildlife, there is no way to treat wild  
> raccoonsno comment.


 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters

2012-01-06 Thread Lorrie
On 01-05, Marcia Baronda wrote: 

> That infuriates me. Such a waste of life! Sometimes I think the
> wildlife should be armed!

I agree with you on that one.  I detest hunters!
Lorrie


 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-06 Thread Maureen Olvey
What's funny is only a very very small population of the animals actually have 
rabies.  The Bat Conservation website said that less than 1% of bats are 
actually carrying the virus at any one time.  Course rabies is fatal and there 
is no cure or treatment once the virus is past a certain point so it is 
something that has to be taken seriously.  But still the lack of knowledge has 
made people hate and fear some of the animals like raccoons and bats.  Here in 
GA as soon as I mention the raccoons coming around and eating my feral cat's 
food I hear "Oh raccoons carry rabies and you have to stay away from them."  
It's crazy the number of people that have said that to me.There's the 
assumption that most raccoons carry rabies.  There was this guy that was 
feeding one of my feral cats during the week because he worked at the business 
where the cat was at.  He said one day a raccoon came up to their open 
warehouse door and looked in and everyone just knew the raccoon had rabies.  I 
explained that raccoons are curious and just because you saw one in the daytime 
it didn't mean it had rabies.  But his boss wanted him to move the feeding 
station so that the raccoons would not be coming near them.  Actually he told 
the guy not to feed the cat anymore but we got around that.  Point being that 
one glance at a raccoon in the daytime struck fear in those men.

> From: maima...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 17:59:59 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
> 
> According to Fish and Wildlife, there is no way to treat wild  
> raccoonsno comment.
> On Jan 5, 2012, at 5:56 PM, GRAS wrote:
> 
> > That's right, and looking at them, you can't tell which it is - but  
> > without
> > treatment, it kills them just like rabies does.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:13 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
> >
> > To make matters worse, raccoons get canine distemper which a lot of  
> > people
> > assume is rabies and...
> > On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
> >> They hunters did that in  the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in
> >> the East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were
> >> killed, whether sick or not.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
> >> Baronda
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
> >>
> >> Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with,
> >> Christmas 2010.
> >>
> >> On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS  wrote:
> >>
> >>> The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by  
> >>> hunters,
> >>> after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so
> >>> they brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
> >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
> >>>
> >>> I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other
> >>> rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the
> >>> heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest
> >>> region of raccoons carrying rabies!
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM,  wrote:
> >>>
>  My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I
>  live in
> >>> th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that
> >>> can pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i
> >>> I don't.
>   Lorrie  wrote:
> > I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
> > and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
> >
> > On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
> >> I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in
> >> case I  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies
> >> vaccinations  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.
> >> Interesting huh?  I need  to  check  out  that group again to see
> >> if they've found anything else  out  or if it actually last  
> >> longer
> >> than the 4 years even.  I know they  were doing more research
> >> studies.
> >> Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've
> >> been  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination
> >> and then the  next  year they get the 3 year one.
> >

Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-06 Thread Maureen Olvey
Also, there's that group that is doing the research about how long a rabies 
vaccine is actually good for.  Their website has lots of info too like about 
the rodents not carrying rabies and why.  It also talks about things like that 
the rabies virus can be in an animal's system for months but it's only 
contagious at the very last stage when the animal starts going beserk.  At that 
last stage the animal will die in less than 10 days.  That's why if your dog 
bites someone they only have a 10 day quarantine period.  I learned a lot from 
that one website.  Wish I could remember the name of the group but I'm sure if 
you google rabies it will come up.

> From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:26:49 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
> 
> Oh, Thank you for the info. I'm going to do some reading on this(-:
> 
> Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
> 2010. 
> 
> On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS  wrote:
> 
> > Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
> > They hunters did that in  the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in the
> > East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were killed, whether
> > sick or not.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
> > 
> > Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
> > 2010. 
> > 
> > On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS  wrote:
> > 
> >> The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters, 
> >> after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so they 
> >> brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
> >> 
> >> I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other 
> >> rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the 
> >> heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest 
> >> region of raccoons carrying rabies!
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >> On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM,  wrote:
> >> 
> >>> My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I 
> >>> live in
> >> th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can 
> >> pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
> >>>  Lorrie  wrote: 
>  I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
>  and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
>  
>  On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
> > I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in 
> > case I  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies 
> > vaccinations  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  
> > Interesting huh?  I need  to  check  out  that group again to see 
> > if they've found anything else  out  or if it actually last longer 
> > than the 4 years even.  I know they  were doing more research studies.
> > Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've 
> > been  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and 
> > then the  next  year they get the 3 year one.
>  
>  
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