Re: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia

2013-01-17 Thread MaiMaiPG

Try tennis balls or baseballs then.
On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:19 PM, katskat1 wrote:

OMG!  If I put golf balls in my dogs food they would swallow them  
and keep right on going!



On Wednesday, January 16, 2013, Shelley Theye wrote:
Hi Tricia and All,

I recently joined this group after finding out that a neighborhood  
feral cat that I trapped
to neuter, tested positive for FeLV.   I have him separate from my  
cats now, and he has, over a few months,
actually become a lot tamer, not 100% yet, but so much better,  
allows petting, plays, etc.


Hope I am not out of line jumping in about Tricia's cat before  
properly introducing myself.


I am not sure if I am getting all of the emails on this particular  
thread, but
I think with her symptoms, ongoing or worsening loose stool, and now  
hiding, she should definitely be seen by a vet.
There have been lots of great suggestions given, but IF she is not  
improving, you should bring her in for an exam.


I would start by getting the name of the vet that your friend took  
her too, then call and ask them about her
check-up, and why she was given the Tylosin.  Ask your friend more  
about why the Tylosin too.  Maybe have your friend
call the vet first to let them know it is fine to tell you about  
her, that you adopted her...ask them if they did a fecal, deworming,  
etc.  Find out the
dewormer they gave her, what the fecal showed, etc.  You need more  
info and maybe just by talking to them you

will get some answers.

If her symptoms continue, I think you should bring her in to your  
own vet.  Have the other vet fax the records over.
With FeLV cats, it is important to stay on top of symptoms and  
address them sooner versus later to treat anything before it  
advances, right?
She could become dehydrated with ongoing diarrhea and you don't  
really know what is
going on for sure to cause her symptoms, unless the other vet sheds  
some light.  This is just my opinion.


For instance, she could have coccidia, giardia, etc.   Sometimes  
vets want to do a direct fecal
to find certain parasites, etc.   They can be hard to find on a  
fecal you drop off.
Loose stool could have lots of bacteria in it too, not just worms,  
and she might need to be
treated.  I have a foster cat who had chronic loose stools and when  
fecals were done, he

had an overload of bacteria and metronidazole helped for a while.
His diarrhea ended up being intermittent to almost constant, until  
we finally figured out he has a food allergy and now
after 4 years (!), his stools are finally normal on a special unique  
protein (rabbit) food.


Hope Pumpkin starts feeling better soon.  One other thing, declawing  
is very traumatic, and declawing an adult is even worse.
Some of her litter box aversion could be from pain of declaw in  
addition to the diarrhea, not necessarily, but just something
to be aware of.  She has been through a lot.   And she is still  
getting used to your home and being indoors.  It's only been a few  
months,
she still needs time to adapt.  Also, cats will sometimes purr even  
if they don't feel good.  Sounds like you are being a great mom to  
Pumpkin,
but if she isn't getting better, I would definitely err on the side  
of caution and have her seen or at least call your vet or the other  
vet.


Best,
Shelley

On Jan 15, 2013, at 10:54 PM, katskat1 wrote:

> Some good suggestions!  I am feeding mine Science Diet for  
sensitive tummies mixed with two teaspoons of canned food to keep  
her interested.  She inhales it!  Little miss Hoover.  I am feeding  
9 other cats and three dogs at the same time. One of the dogs gets  
sensitive tummy food along with thyroid, pain and inflammation meds  
so I don't have time to pay enough attention to her to try and slow  
her down.  I may start feeding her separately.  Will see how it  
goes.  Thanks for the ideas. I can't give her hairball medicine  
cause she immediately barfs it, often into her food bowl!!  Subtle  
kitty that she is...

>
> For all that are interested, Miss Kitty is getting big, sleek and  
shiny.  She is going to successfully sneak out the door someday.   
She will not give it up.  Hope to keep her in til spring.

>
> Ozzie is doing MUCH better.  Fattened up in his head, chest and  
front section of his body but back end just isn't gonna fill out.   
Mingles with the other cats if food is involved, purrs when petted  
in a manner and spot he approves of and has learned to ask to go in/  
out so all is well.  So far no issues developing with ,the FIV.   
Discovered he was choosing his own toilet areas, none of them litter  
boxes cause he apparently requires there be no top/lid on the boxes  
he is to use,.  Take the lid off and he uses it every time.  One  
mystery solved.

>
>
> Kat
> ::
> On Tuesday, January 15, 2013, wrote:
> When you gt the pumpkin, try mixing some plain yogurt with it.  It  
will provide good bacteria for her intestines.

>
> Good thought on her accide

Re: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia

2013-01-17 Thread MaiMaiPG
Every feral I have ever known has refused a closed box..the  
odors must be upsetting like a port-a-let that has been well  used.

On Jan 15, 2013, at 9:54 PM, katskat1 wrote:

Some good suggestions!  I am feeding mine Science Diet for sensitive  
tummies mixed with two teaspoons of canned food to keep her  
interested.  She inhales it!  Little miss Hoover.  I am feeding 9  
other cats and three dogs at the same time. One of the dogs gets  
sensitive tummy food along with thyroid, pain and inflammation meds  
so I don't have time to pay enough attention to her to try and slow  
her down.  I may start feeding her separately.  Will see how it  
goes.  Thanks for the ideas. I can't give her hairball medicine  
cause she immediately barfs it, often into her food bowl!!  Subtle  
kitty that she is...


For all that are interested, Miss Kitty is getting big, sleek and  
shiny.  She is going to successfully sneak out the door someday.   
She will not give it up.  Hope to keep her in til spring.


Ozzie is doing MUCH better.  Fattened up in his head, chest and  
front section of his body but back end just isn't gonna fill out.   
Mingles with the other cats if food is involved, purrs when petted  
in a manner and spot he approves of and has learned to ask to go in/  
out so all is well.  So far no issues developing with ,the FIV.   
Discovered he was choosing his own toilet areas, none of them litter  
boxes cause he apparently requires there be no top/lid on the boxes  
he is to use,.  Take the lid off and he uses it every time.  One  
mystery solved.



Kat
::
On Tuesday, January 15, 2013, wrote:
When you gt the pumpkin, try mixing some plain yogurt with it.  It  
will provide good bacteria for her intestines.


Good thought on her accident.  If she is not used to sudden noises,  
etc, that could have been the problem.
As for her hiding, Annie hid in the basement for a wek or 2, coming  
up at night to eat.  I put a box downstairs for her to use.  She had  
lost her owner to cancer and was cooped up in her trailer for 3  
weeks.  The lady's sister came once a day, fed her and changed her  
box.  Then she was put in a box, brought to the vet's and I picked  
her up and brought her home to a house with a basement, 6 cats and 2  
new people.  She freaked out and headed straight for the basement.   
She had always been an only cat so getting used to a house full and  
new people didn't help her.  Now, she still does not like sharing me  
with the others, but does put up with it.
I wish we could get a complete history with each new cat that comes  
our way, it would make it so easy to understand why the do and do  
not do things.  For that reason, I have a letter to go with each one  
when I pass so the no kill shelter I have selected to get them will  
be able to understand their little quirks.


 strchalb...@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Sharyl,
>
> Thank you so much for the quick reply:)
>
> I would have to guess she is about 4 years old.
>
> I've had cats with worms before, but they were quite obvious in  
the stool... I will try to check her stool more closely.

>
> So some pumpkin for my Pumpkin how ironic... might need to try  
that and I will let you know.  Maybe it will be best for her to stay  
in the basement, near her potty for awhile?  I had one other  
response, and he said, she just may have had an accident, which is  
what I might be thinking.  I think previously, we were chasing the  
kids in the house, and she may have gotten scared and it just sorta  
"ran out"...

>
> What about hiding under the bed?? She did that when she first came  
here, and has been good now for a few weeks, but today she was under  
the bed again?  I read that sometimes can be a sign that they aren't  
feeling well?

>
> Thanks again for your time and knowledge:
>
> Tricia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sharyl 
> To: felvtalk 
> Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 9:42 pm
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia
>
>
>
> Hi Tricia. You don't say how old Pumpkin is.  It is usual to re- 
test for FeLV after 3 months.  Since she used to be outside has she  
been treated for worms?  That may be why her stools are soft.  Many  
add some canned plain pumpkin (not the spiced pie filling) to the  
canned food to add fiber when a kitty has diarrhea.   Usually start  
out with 1 tsp.

>
> I've never used Tylosin Tartrate.  Here is a link to more info
> http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_tylosin.html
> Seems to be used as an anti-inflammatory and for colitis.
>
> You need to treat the diarrhea.  FeLV is probably not the reason  
she has it

>
> Sharyl
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   From: "strchalb...@aol.com" 
>  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:06 PM
>  Subject: [Felvtalk] stray cat I took in has feline leukemia
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm hoping someone can help me
>
> We live in the country and have about 8 outside cats.   A friend  
deci

Re: [Felvtalk] Golf balls

2013-01-17 Thread Lee Evans
Unfortunately no golf ball would slow down my porkers. They would carefully 
remove the balls, making sure that they placed them where I could fall on them, 
bolt their food and sit around the refrigerator waiting for ice cream for 
desert. Sigh.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





>
> From: Lorrie 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Golf balls
> 
>On 01-16, katskat1 wrote:
>>    OMG!  If I put golf balls in my dogs food they would swallow them and
>>    keep right on going!
>
>That cracked me up. But it can work for cats who are porko. Golf balls
>will slow down a cat who eats too much, and another trick is to put a
>smaller glass bowl in the middle of the food bowl.  The cat can't bolt
>down it's food and has to slowly eat around that middle bowl. Pet shops
>sell food bowls with raised centers, but you can make your own with a
>bowl in a bowl.
>
>Lorrie
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Golf balls

2013-01-17 Thread Beth
I don't know what the original post was, but be careful using gold balls around 
animals. They contain lead.

Beth
 

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: Lorrie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Golf balls
 
On 01-16, katskat1 wrote:
>    OMG!  If I put golf balls in my dogs food they would swallow them and
>    keep right on going!

That cracked me up. But it can work for cats who are porko. Golf balls
will slow down a cat who eats too much, and another trick is to put a
smaller glass bowl in the middle of the food bowl.  The cat can't bolt
down it's food and has to slowly eat around that middle bowl. Pet shops
sell food bowls with raised centers, but you can make your own with a
bowl in a bowl.

Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Golf balls

2013-01-17 Thread Lorrie
On 01-16, katskat1 wrote:
>OMG!  If I put golf balls in my dogs food they would swallow them and
>keep right on going!

That cracked me up. But it can work for cats who are porko. Golf balls
will slow down a cat who eats too much, and another trick is to put a
smaller glass bowl in the middle of the food bowl.  The cat can't bolt
down it's food and has to slowly eat around that middle bowl. Pet shops
sell food bowls with raised centers, but you can make your own with a
bowl in a bowl.

Lorrie


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