Re: FIV and calico
Yes, Nina, I was saying in our shelter, the majority of the FIV cats ARE male, but with the female positives, most of them ARE calicos. And, second to the female calico FIV+s, are the solid black females (FIV+). Just an observation at our shelter Never really thought about "color distinction" before this thread started. Patti
Re: Add Pansy to the bridge list
In a message dated 12/30/05 6:06:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I brought my Ursula in to be spayed the vet suggested giving her fluid during surgery. I hadn't heard of doing that before, I have no idea if that helps The IV fluids really DO help...They flush out the anesthesia from the system. My vet always uses IV fluids during any surgical procedure.
Re: Add Pansy to the bridge list
Mine also uses iv fluids during surgery. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Add Pansy to the bridge list
i'm struck, once again, by how many things we don't know to ask about--and how important it is that we share what works--and what doesn't--with one another On 1/1/06, Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine also uses iv fluids during surgery.--BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com(affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com ---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: FIV and calico
Now that I think of it,the Fiv cats at our shelter are all males but 2 are females and they are Calicos too. Sherry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Nina, I was saying in our shelter, the majority of the FIV cats ARE male, but with the female positives, most of them ARE calicos. And, second to the female calico FIV+s, are the solid black females (FIV+). Just an observation at our shelter Never really thought about "color distinction" before this thread started. Patti Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: Add Pansy to the bridge list
Hi Gloria, I will be sure and add Pansy to this weeks service, I'm so sorry for your loss of such a young one. I do have a couple of questions that are puzzling me though. When exactly did Pansy pass away and why didn't your vet call you to let you know? It almost sounds like she was in recovery and they didn't know she had passed until you called to check on her and they went back to check on her and found her passed. I would certainly expect my vet to call me immediately if my kitty passed after surgery, which they did with Buddie, she came through the surgery fine but went into cardiac arrest in recovery, they called while they were trying to resusitate her and asked me if I wanted them to continue to resusitate her. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Add Pansy to the bridge list
Thanks, Belinda - I left the kitties at the vets before 8am and drove to visit some cousins . She was the only Persian. The vet called my home phone about 2:30pm and left a message, and I called the vets about 3pm from my cell phone. He told me then. He said that she was moving her head, in recovery. I know they had her in a cage, and were checking on her, not holding her (like we do in our clinic). They checked on her later and she was dead. When I picked her up at 4pm, she was still soft and warm. When I picked her up, the vet asked if she'd been FIV/FELV tested. I said yes, and was negative. He said it may have been FIP. I said I doubt that - I just know how easy it is to blame the unknown on something, just anything, and she was a healthy kitty. I got some good responses from the Persian list. Persians are different - flat face and all that. A few people on that list said that Persians need to be intubated, and to be checked because the soft pallet can block the airway, because of their flat facial structure. I feel very strongly that that's probably what it was. Also, I hear that Persians have problems with certain anesthesia, but then she seemed to be coming out of the anesthesia. I mailed the info to the vet as well, so that he'll know, but I doubt if I'll ever ever go there again. Anyhow - here's one of the comments - very interesting - (and I'll bet this vet didn't intubate) - Gloria Subject: Re: persian kitten, Pansy, died Sometimes on the flat faced ones they extubate them too soon... and because of the way the soft pallet is misshapen, it falls back and closes off the airway... and the cat is not awake enough to be aware of it...I have had this happen on a few... the first was when I was there, assisting, and noticed shortly after they extubated, the lips started turning blue... we responded and that cat was OK, but it could have had a much different outcome had I not been watching. Ever since, I make a point of telling them that, reminding them, so to speak. I am so sorry for your loss:( Mary Arnold Bit O'Blarney Pet Services TICA Allbreed Judge IM Mjablarney ICQ #21462586 On Jan 1, 2006, at 11:29 AM, Belinda Sauro wrote: Hi Gloria, I will be sure and add Pansy to this weeks service, I'm so sorry for your loss of such a young one. I do have a couple of questions that are puzzling me though. When exactly did Pansy pass away and why didn't your vet call you to let you know? It almost sounds like she was in recovery and they didn't know she had passed until you called to check on her and they went back to check on her and found her passed. I would certainly expect my vet to call me immediately if my kitty passed after surgery, which they did with Buddie, she came through the surgery fine but went into cardiac arrest in recovery, they called while they were trying to resusitate her and asked me if I wanted them to continue to resusitate her. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Add Pansy to the bridge list
I'm really sorry Gloria, we trust our vets to know what they are doing and to have our animals life in their hands, some are just not worthy of that trust. I think there should be one person atleast in the recovery room anytime there is a patient in there, but I know this is probably uinrealistic. I really am sorry this happened. I was born with a very healthy sceptisism which is a pain alot of the time, but can come in very handy sometimes, I'm sure my vet thinks I'm a major pain most of the time but in that instance I don't care. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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Fostering Fiv Cat
Hello everyone,well I finally decided to foster the cutest and sweetest Fiv boy named Rafferty.He must have just looked at me just right cause just this week something told me to take this boy home.So last night we got to my house 40 seconds before midnight.I do believe he likes being away from the other 75 cats.I also gave lots of loving to poor sweet Hardy,Jen the vet who runs it left us a note to love him while we have him.He purred so loud and sweetly,I hope he knows that we all love him so dearly.I believe she took him and Moses(really bad ear infection) and Marley(URI) to the clinic today.Keep them in your prayers.If you want to see my foster boy Rafferty,go to www.crashslanding.organd click on current residents and you can see all the beautiful furbabies. Sherry Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Re: opinion?
Sounds reasonable to me. However I do see some holes in that logic. For example, he says attachment: bulletpaw.jpg Carriers can be asymptomatic for years, and expose other cats in the household. but he says Cats over one year of age are highly resistant to Feline Leukemia whether they are vaccinated or not. And talks about vaccination. So my reaction is, uh, which horse are you gonna ride anyhow? But in general, that's what I've learned and come to believe. Interesting web site - glad to learn about that. Gloria On Jan 1, 2006, at 8:50 PM, janine paton wrote: http://critteradvocacy.org/content/view/35/75/ Hopefully this link will work. Was wondering what you guys thought of what this vet is saying about leukemia. Janine
Re: opinion?
yeah, i'm a little uncomfortable about the cats over one year of age bit, because my understanding is that HEALTHY cats are pretty much able to throw the virus off, while older or otherwise compromised cats may not be--and, at least with rescued animals, we rarely actually know their histories on the site, tho, find the complaint he filed with the Texas Vet Board about overuse of vaccines--very interesting document-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: Add Pansy to the bridge list
In a message dated 1/1/06 11:22:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mine also uses iv fluids during surgery IV fluids are so important during, and after surgery. Everyone really should insist that their vets do this as a precautionary procedure.
Re: Add Pansy to the bridge list
In a message dated 1/1/06 2:00:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think there should be one person atleast in the recovery room anytime there is a patient in there, but I know this is probably uinrealistic. Actually, that depends on the practice, When I worked at the 24 Hour Emergency clinic. there was ALWAYS a person assigned to staying with indiviual patients while they recovered from anesthesia. The next practice I worked at (the "pink-juice" happy vets), did not really do anything post-op, other than put the patient in a cage. :(
Re: Fostering Fiv Cat
Sherry~ Hooray for both you and Rafferty.. I am sure you'll both give each other much happiness. I also looked at all the darlings on the website... I'm confused about something though. Is almost every cat there de-clawed??? Because a vet runs the shelter?? Or is it an error?? Just never saw so many de-clawed cats at one shelter. Happy New Year! Patti
Re: opinion?
Right, there's the question of sick cats and elderly cats.. Gloria On Jan 1, 2006, at 10:08 PM, TenHouseCats wrote: yeah, i'm a little uncomfortable about the cats over one year of age bit, because my understanding is that HEALTHY cats are pretty much able to throw the virus off, while older or otherwise compromised cats may not be--and, at least with rescued animals, we rarely actually know their histories on the site, tho, find the complaint he filed with the Texas Vet Board about overuse of vaccines--very interesting document -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: opinion?
There are some things about it I find confusing. He says kittens are at the highest riskand cats over a year old are pretty much immune. Then he says that it is primarily transmitted by bite wounds. How many kittens get bit wounds? He says the incubation period is 3 years or more so cats exposed before one year can come down with the disease many years later. From what I have heard, at least for those born with it (he doesn't even mention if it can be transmitted from mother to kittens) most die before 3 years of age. Maybe I'm wrong about this as I do not have that much long term experience. Exactly what does he mean by come down with FeLV disease and develop the disease? Does he mean test positive or does he mean they get sick? He says FeLV infected cats live a few months to 4 years, what does he mean by infected? He said the incubation period is 3 years or more, how does that square with infected cats dying in a few months? Gary - Original Message - From: janine paton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:50 PM Subject: opinion? http://critteradvocacy.org/content/view/35/75/ Hopefully this link will work. Was wondering what you guys thought of what this vet is saying about leukemia. Janine
Re: Fostering Fiv Cat
Agree - what's with all these declawed cats? Does Michigan just go for declaw? I have on rare occasion talked to people, btw, who say that their vet recommends declaw. (Probably also recommends just transferring $$$ to his/her bank account too). Gloria On Jan 1, 2006, at 10:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sherry~ Hooray for both you and Rafferty.. I am sure you'll both give each other much happiness. I also looked at all the darlings on the website... I'm confused about something though. Is almost every cat there de- clawed??? Because a vet runs the shelter?? Or is it an error?? Just never saw so many de-clawed cats at one shelter. Happy New Year! Patti
Re: FIV and calico
Got it! I missed the male/female part. I knew my own fiv was a black male, and have only dealt with a few others through the shelter. They were all black males. BIG, intact males with lots of battle scars too.t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Nina, I was saying in our shelter, the majority of the FIV cats ARE male, but with the female positives, most of them ARE calicos. And, second to the female calico FIV+s, are the solid black females (FIV+). Just an observation at our shelter Never really thought about "color distinction" before this thread started. Patti
Re: Fostering Fiv Cat
Patti, yes I do believe they get declawed to make it easier to adopt out.I know a lot of cats get tossed out on the street because people don't like the scratching.I myself don't believe in declawing butI do believe in her cause.HAPPY NEW YEAR! Sherry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sherry~ Hooray for both you and Rafferty.. I am sure you'll both give each other much happiness. I also looked at all the darlings on the website... I'm confused about something though. Is almost every cat there de-clawed??? Because a vet runs the shelter?? Or is it an error?? Just never saw so many de-clawed cats at one shelter. Happy New Year! Patti Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year.
