RE: Another disaster - update
Good Lord!I know this is NOT what you want to hear. But if I were you I would not rush into anything, but I would start looking for a place to move. I know you've spent tons to get your house the way you wanted, etc... but still I would start looking.You know I just moved this summer. It was a LONG search because I wanted to find a place with some privacy and acerage with NO neighbors too close and NO stupid association. This is NOT easy to find where I live and took quite a while, but I finally lucked up on a pretty deserted little road where the houses are zoned at 2 acres and no less.The house I finally found is not what I personally wanted, but it's perfect for my animals. It's private. It's not in a subdivision at all, and I've got nearly 2 acres. Yes, it's needed work. But there's NO ONE to complain if I want to set cat cages behind my house or have too many cats laying in the front bay window.It was THE MAJOR decision maker on my buying this house. There are some neighbors close enough to complain if the dogs bark too much, but I even looked around to see if some of the nearby houses have dogs that bark too, and they do. lol. I think I told you before that I had an aquaintance go through something similar to what you're going through. So I knew when I moved I would buy the safest thing possible for the critters so that I could hopefully enjoy what you are going through now.Hell, if it weren't for the cats and dogsI'd live in a condo with little or no upkeep for a lot less money. lol.tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I thought about it, but I dont think so, but I am not 100% sure --- he lives with girlfriend, and she is not US citizen, I think she is somewhere form south America, - it does not mean that she doesnt have anything against Japanese but its hard to say.. it looks like he is trying sell the house soon, so I hope he does ---Also, Greg just found out that someone shot his car window with a gun (I think) last night or something.. I think this is about 2nd or 3rd time his car got some type of damages what a timing.. I hope he does not think we had anything to do it.. (Greg thought he might) now I am a bit freaking out, if he think so, and if he tries to poison my cats through the outside enclosures I am a bit paranoid now..From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:54 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Another disaster - updateHideyo, I hate to even suggest this but your comment about the neighbor not wanting people with certain ethnicities in his neighborhood made me wonder-- do you think that any of his animosity, or the animosity of the other guy, could be racism against you because you are Japanese? New Mexico is kind of known for being racially divided, and when I lived there for 3 months I could not believe how much blatant racism there was. What I saw was mostly racism against Native Americans and Latinos, but I would not be surprised if some of the white people there are racist against anyone who is from another country and/or is not white. If you think this might be part of what is going on, I think you need to tell your lawyers about it because it is relevant to the complaints, and it might also be something you want to mention to the ALCU if they are still considering doing an amicus brief.MichelleIn a message dated 2/1/2006 6:08:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Actually I put everything in the house for now they really cannot complain what I have inside of the house --- to tell you the truth, if he wants to sell the house, it will probably sell in two days.. the market value of my neighborhood has gone way up by almost 100% for the past year or two and everyone who tries to sell the house in the area gets offered in ½ to 2 days and sell it --- so I really dont think that he is going to have any problems but again, I really cannot control the way he thinks.
Prednisone question
Hi. Lucy had loose stool/diarrhea for about 2 months, which mostly cleared up when she went on 10 mg/day of prednisone, then cleared up entirely when she went to a raw turkey diet. I slowly tapered her off the pred over a few weeks. When she had been off the pred for a week she stopped wanting her turkey diet, ate other food, and had a bout of vomiting. I put her back on pred for a short time and weaned her off again. She then stopped wanting her turkey diet again, ate other food, and got diarrhea. So I put her back on again and started the tapering right away. She was doing great again until I got to 2.5 mg pred every other day, a few days ago, and then she stopped wanting her turkey diet again, eventually ate some other food (turkey baby food and a little bit of EVO dry) and her stools got a little loose again and her appetite decreased. This is my question. I think she does really well when she is on 2.5 mg of pred per day. My preference would be to keep her off pred entirely, since steroids can have side effects long-term. My understanding, though, is that 2.5 mg/day is a fairly low dosage. I am thinking about just keeping her on it for at least a few weeks, maybe longer. She feels good, eats her turkey diet well, and has pretty normal bowels when she is on 2.5 mg/day, and she starts having some problems whenever I taper it lower than that. I have read of cats being on much higher dosages for months. Does anyone have any thoughts as to potential problems with 2.5 mg/day over weeks or months? Does it sound reasonable or problematic, or both? She weighs a little over 9 pounds. There other thing I was thinking of trying is going to 1.25 mg/day and seeing if that works better than 2.5 mg every other day. Any thoughts? The vet I am using now puts cats with IBD on 10 mg/day for months at a time, and does not think there is much of a problem. I am asking you guys because I want a somewhat more nuanced opinion, and I know that some of you appreciate how helpful steroids can be, as I do, but also are wary of the side effects long-term, as I am. Thanks, Michelle
Re: Another disaster - Tonya
Thank you everyone for your well wishes. I've conquered the anemia, had the hysterectomy, am halfway moved in, and hopefully will get the thyroid going. You just all know how it is when you have a zoo to take care of. Between work and just basic care of my guys it's a lot of work. I'm either working, taking care of the critters, vegging out on this computer, or sleeping. That's basically it except when I'm on vacation in the summer. Summer will come. Summer will come! And yes, the only bills that get paid are the ones I can pay online. lol.And forcing myself to eat is not the problem. Forcing myself to make something to eat is so I eat cookies, Little Debby cakes, potato chips, etc lol. Really, I've gained so much weight I'm sure that has led to my lack of energy being worse. I need someone to force feed me broccoli!Here's a funny story for anyone's reading pleasure. My thyroid med. has to be taken 1st thing in the morning with water. No coffee, juice, anything else for 30 minutes (preferably an hour). Well I hate this. I hate drinking water and I want something 'good' to drink when I get up. Like chocolate milk!Sooo some friends recommended I put the pills by my bed with a cup of water and take it before I even get up. (I set my 3 alarms to go off a little before 6, but then sleep 30 more minutes to alarms and loud rap music before my friend calls to MAKE me get up at 6:30. Even the cats have learned to sleep through all this racket. lol, and NO ONE will spend the night at my house because of having to listen to all of this or yell at me to get up for 30 minutes!)So we all know I can't have a glass of water by my bed with 7 cats. Or a pill. And I don't want to get UP to take the pill or I may as well get up and be on time for work for Heaven's sake. I want to take the pill lying down and go back to sleep.So I go by a child's 'sippee cup', fill it with water, and put the sippee cup and the pills inside my dresser drawer. This was Friday, my first try with my new foolproof plan. The wind up"firehouse sounding ringing alarm" wakes meup at 6:00. I fumble in the drawer for the pill and cup of water and down the pill. Well, the water won't come out of the cup fast enough and the pill is dissolving in my mouth! I suck and suck on the thing and then give it a big squeeze to get some d*mn water to come out. Off POPS the lid soaking me, the cats, the bed with a glass of water. lol. I got up and put on more pajamas and came and slept in the recliner until my friend called. Time to come up with a new plan. ( I also got up and drank chocolate milk too. I felt I deserved it!) tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Tonya! I'm sorry to hear about your health problems! Don't worry about the house, it will get clean again eventually, pay the bills that you have to, (have you ever paid bills online? It's pretty fast and easy). Please take care of yourself and get some rest. Don't forget to force yourself to eat something. If we were closer I'd come over there and syringe feed you, if I had to.Much love,Ninacatatonya wrote: WHY DO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH SUCH IDIOTS IN THIS WORLD I am so sorry you are going through all of this. I have not been well and finally went and got a thyroid panel run for myself with an endocrinologist. Well, my TSH was 65.45, and the doctor said it should be 1 or 2. lol. I'm on 137 mg of levoxyl. (The same amount as my aunt who had her thyroid removed due to cancer). All that to say that I've been sleeping pretty much around the clock. The house is a mess, and the bills have not been paid. I started med.s on Monday and hope to feel like a real person again soon. As soon as I get my check books balanced and my late bills paid I am planning to send you some money for your defense. I have some set aside, I just haven't had time to sit and write out checks, get to the post office for stamps, etc... I am off on Monday to go back to the doctor to start more med.s and get more results, etc so I have a long weekend to hopefully get my butt in gear. You are in my thoughts and prayers. If money will take care of this problem, we will come up with the money on this list. And I believe in your 'cause' on this one. It's for you, but it's also for everyone who has to deal with this kind of crap about limits. Yes, I know I'm not a lawyer, but it's freakin' UNCONSTITUTIONAL! Maybe when I retire from teaching and don't have to worry about my job I can just travel around the country and b*tch slap people like you're dealing with. lol. take care, tonya
Re: Another disaster - update
That makes two of us. The land and lack of "an association" that can tell you what to do with your own propertyare the keys. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: RE: Another disaster - update Good Lord! I know this is NOT what you want to hear. But if I were you I would not rush into anything, but I would start looking for a place to move. I know you've spent tons to get your house the way you wanted, etc... but still I would start looking. You know I just moved this summer. It was a LONG search because I wanted to find a place with some privacy and acerage with NO neighbors too close and NO stupid association. This is NOT easy to find where I live and took quite a while, but I finally lucked up on a pretty deserted little road where the houses are zoned at 2 acres and no less. The house I finally found is not what I personally wanted, but it's perfect for my animals. It's private. It's not in a subdivision at all, and I've got nearly 2 acres. Yes, it's needed work. But there's NO ONE to complain if I want to set cat cages behind my house or have too many cats laying in the front bay window. It was THE MAJOR decision maker on my buying this house. There are some neighbors close enough to complain if the dogs bark too much, but I even looked around to see if some of the nearby houses have dogs that bark too, and they do. lol. I think I told you before that I had an aquaintance go through something similar to what you're going through. So I knew when I moved I would buy the safest thing possible for the critters so that I could hopefully enjoy what you are going through now. Hell, if it weren't for the cats and dogsI'd live in a condo with little or no upkeep for a lot less money. lol. tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought about it, but I dont think so, but I am not 100% sure --- he lives with girlfriend, and she is not US citizen, I think she is somewhere form south America, - it does not mean that she doesnt have anything against Japanese but its hard to say.. it looks like he is trying sell the house soon, so I hope he does --- Also, Greg just found out that someone shot his car window with a gun (I think) last night or something.. I think this is about 2nd or 3rd time his car got some type of damages what a timing.. I hope he does not think we had anything to do it.. (Greg thought he might) now I am a bit freaking out, if he think so, and if he tries to poison my cats through the outside enclosures I am a bit paranoid now.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:54 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Another disaster - update Hideyo, I hate to even suggest this but your comment about the neighbor not wanting people with certain ethnicities in his neighborhood made me wonder-- do you think that any of his animosity, or the animosity of the other guy, could be racism against you because you are Japanese? New Mexico is kind of known for being racially divided, and when I lived there for 3 months I could not believe how much blatant racism there was. What I saw was mostly racism against Native Americans and Latinos, but I would not be surprised if some of the white people there are racist against anyone who is from another country and/or is not white. If you think this might be part of what is going on, I think you need to tell your lawyers about it because it is relevant to the complaints, and it might also be something you want to mention to the ALCU if they are still considering doing an amicus brief. Michelle In a message dated 2/1/2006 6:08:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually I put everything in the house for now they really cannot complain what I have inside of the house --- to tell you the truth, if he wants to sell the house, it will probably sell in two days.. the market value of my neighborhood has gone way up by almost 100% for the past year or two and everyone who tries to sell the house in the area gets offered in ½ to 2 days and sell it --- so I really dont think that he is going to have any problems but again, I really cannot control the way he thinks.
Re: dry food causing problems?
Dry food can, but does not always, increase the risk of urinary tract problems (the grain in it raises the ph, as does having more concentrated urine from no water content in the food, and the acidifiers they put in to try to reverse this sometimes cause the opposite problem of oxylate crystals), GI problems (lots of cats with inflammatory bowel disease get diarrhea and vomiting from dry foods because of the grain and other stuff in it), diabetes (too many carbs in it), and obesity (too many carbs, plus dry food is often free fed which leads to more eating). I always free fed dry food until recently, when I had to stop because Lucy developed IBD problems and both Lucy and Patches had urinary tract trouble. I still give them dry food in small amounts, Lucy I give Innova EVO which has no grains, and Patches I give a prescription urinary tract formula. My two fat cats have lost some weight since I stopped free feeding dry, which is probably good although since they are FeLV+ I always kind of prefer that they are fat. Michelle In a message dated 2/4/2006 4:39:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm reading through Wendy's sick kitty manual, and I just found this, which surprised me:Dry food: Not good for cats. Contributes to obesity. Exacerbates all sorts of health problems.I wondered if you folks could help me understand why this is? We've been feeding our cats weight-management hairball-control dry food for years, and I'd never seen this kind of claim before. Right now we have Eukanuba Mature Care for our cats that are 9 years old and actually eating.
Re: Another disaster - Tonya
Tonya, I really know what you mean. I have a bunch of health problems myself (endometriosis, polycystic ovaries syndrome, gastritis, depression, had anemia last year which I hope is better...). I seem to only be able to medicate myself properly and get myself to the doctor when the animals are doing relatively well. As soon as I have a long regiment of pilling or vet visits or special diets to make them, though, my own regimen goes down the drain. It's like my brain can't hold that long a to do list and my own treatment gets dropped. I only remember all of it when I remember to write a long list of who gets what when-- and put myself on it! I usually do remember my necessary meds, but I often forget my supplements and vitamins and herbs and stuff... Michelle In a message dated 2/4/2006 4:46:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you everyone for your well wishes. I've conquered the anemia, had the hysterectomy, am halfway moved in, and hopefully will get the thyroid going. You just all know how it is when you have a zoo to take care of. Between work and just basic care of my guys it's a lot of work. I'm either working, taking care of the critters, vegging out on this computer, or sleeping. That's basically it except when I'm on vacation in the summer. Summer will come. Summer will come! And yes, the only bills that get paid are the ones I can pay online. lol.
Re: Another disaster
That is FANTASTIC news! I've been waiting to respond to your post Hideyo about how mad you are about this whole situation. I feel like you do, and I don't want to egg you on to cut off your nose to spite your face. (I do this from time to time myself.) I know Michelle is right about being calm and taking the safe way out. But I know how it goes against the grain and can make you so angry.take care, tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's very good news Michelle, let's hope Merry is right. Thanks for posting it to the list.Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hideyo, Merry just called me to update me on your case, and she seems very positive about the moratorium on the 10% rule getting passed soon and you getting a permit and the city dropping the criminal charge and civil case. We all need to keep our fingers crossed, of course, because it's not over til it's over and things always seem to happen. But Merry really does feel pretty certain that at some point this will all go away, at least for you. There will still be the need to lobby agains the limit law of course, but let's hope she's right about your case! Michelle
Re: Another disaster
Just to be clear, I am not very good at staying calm myself and do feel quite angry about what people have been putting Hideyo and other rescuers through. But as a lawyer I know I have to evaluate all the options in terms of chances of success and amounts of risk, and that is alI I was advocating doing. I actually have been accused by colleagues of having "hair trigger responses" at times rather than taking a step back and figuring out a more measured response, and it is something that I constantly struggle with. I am learning it a lot more now, because my new job is almost entirely policy work, and I am working on large issues that I have to negotiate with state agencies about, where there is not much recourse beyond convincing them to do the right thing. I am more used to negotiating with agencies over issues that arise in individual cases, where there is something I can go to court about if the negotiations do not get a favorable resolution. But now I am negotiating about new policies that are not actually prohibited or mandated by law, and without individual clients, and it feels a lot different. I can't just stop negotiating at some point and say I will take it before a judge. I have to just keep calm and keep negotiating. It is a new and somewhat uncomfortable position for me, the zealous advocate, but I think it is an important skill to be able to draw on. There may be times that I have ended up in court with clients where I did not have to if I had been a better negotiator. Michelle In a message dated 2/4/2006 5:04:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know Michelle is right about being calm and taking the safe way out. But I know how it goes against the grain and can make you so angry.
Re: Bailey Update
What are you feeding him? When I tube fed it was a/d which is very rich. Any way you can 'bland down' his diet?What about kaopectate or something for the diarrhea. Maybe ask vet about something like that?Thinking of you both. tBelinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bailey is not doing very good, he is getting 200ccs of food a day but is still wasting away. He is still getting epo 3X a week, and 20mg of prednisolone split into 10mgs twice a day. His diarrhea is for the most part gone, although he did just tonight have a mixture of a solid and runny bowel movement. He is sooo bony and his muscle is all but gone on him, he is wasting away and I am starting to think there is cancer somewhere that we haven't found. He has that cancer look (wasting away). He potties wherever he wants and still just lays around. I'm really worried about him, he seems so depressed. We are suppose to do bloodwork in a week but I don't know that I want to wait that long. Our last option is to add leukeran to the prednisolone he is getting.He will be laying somewhere and when he gets up there is usually a little poop there, so it is still coming out of him involuntarily, he doesn't seem to have any control over it sometimes. Anyone know what may be causing this???Prayers are really needed, my baby is slipping away from me and I don't know what to do ...--Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: CLS for Orange Julius (OJ)
Tad,I'm so sorry. Bless you for taking in those poor cats from Angel Wings. I'm certain they know how blessed they were to get to live out the remainder of their lives with you and Marie. It is so sad, but there is a good side to this as only you can know from having opened your home and your heart to these cats.take care, tTad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Little OJ has gone to be with his best kitty friends Winky and Callie...Those 3 seemed to be close friends when they arrived here fromAngel Wings and now they are all back together at the Rainbow Bridge..Last Tuesday (Feb. 2,2006) we took OJ to the vet... He cried whenwe picked him up refused to take any food from his syringe...The vet said his cancer on his kidney had grown huge suddenly andhe was in pain and it was time to let him go...It was so hard because he seemed to love life and everyone aroundhim so much...He sat on the table and watched the doc prepare his needlewith intense interest and he purred for the tech as she shaved his leg andthe needle was inserted...Little OJ was the kitty from the Angel Wings rescue that when they1st examined him at the vets in Tenn. he just flopped on his side...At 1st they thought he was too week to stand up but then they realizedit was because he was so happy to have human touch again...The 1st night he was here and I had him in the introduction cage in theroom with all my cats...When he saw me get in bed he cried and criedand looked like he wanted to join me...He had seemed so friendly witheveryone that I gave in and opened the door and sure enough he made abe line for the bed and he has been there right next to me every nightsince..The FeLV must have already destroyed most of his immune system whenhe arrived here as he had to constantly be on antibiotics to keep URIunder control and at 1st he would sneeze blood and that was fromthe URI had gotten into the hair bones in his nose... A strong antibioticdid take care of that...Because of his chronic URI he never had much appetite and we alwaysgave him special attention to get him to eat...I know he missed Winky...He was only here for a few weeks...Winky just went to sleep and didn't wake up...He was very anemicand a bad heart... It was after that that OJ started loosing weight...We gave him special food and he was doing better and then Calliepassed...It was right after that that he started peeing outside his boxand we had him tested but nothing showed except that his urine waswatery and we gave him something to make it a little more acid incasehe was getting crystals build up... He seemed better for a while andput a little weight back on but then he started to eat less again but he tookhis A/D food without complaining from a syringe...With that it seemed likehe was getting but he was getting skinnyer and skinnyer and we knew itwas cancer taking him awayI miss my supper friendly little orange kitty and I do hope I will get to bewith him again some day.Sleep well sweet OJ
Re: Prednisone question
I would keep her on the 2.5 for at least 2 weeks and see what happens. I don't think that dosage is high enough to do as much harm as not eating, and the vomiting, etc If she does well for 2 to even 3 weeks on 2.5, then I would taper her to 2 and give it another 3 weeks at least before tapering it to 1 and a half, etc When I dealt with ibd I had to taper very, very slowly, and we stayed most of the time on some sort of dosage. Now my cat already had kidney disease before we found out about the ibd, and he was young. Maybe 5? He lived to over 10 with both, and I think he would have made it longer if I had noticed his weight loss before it was too late by the time I got him to the vet. (He went into kidney failure) Also, he really needed daily sub-q which I was not able to give him by myself, so once I broke up with my boyfriend he didn't get it daily as he should have. t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. Lucy had loose stool/diarrhea for about 2 months, which mostly cleared up when she went on 10 mg/day of prednisone, then cleared up entirely when she went to a raw turkey diet. I slowly tapered her off the pred over a few weeks. When she had been off the pred for a week she stopped wanting her turkey diet, ate other food, and had a bout of vomiting. I put her back on pred for a short time and weaned her off again. She then stopped wanting her turkey diet again, ate other food, and got diarrhea. So I put her back on again and started the tapering right away. She was doing great again until I got to 2.5 mg pred every other day, a few days ago, and then she stopped wanting her turkey diet again, eventually ate some other food (turkey baby food and a little bit of EVO dry) and her stools got a little loose again and her appetite decreased.This is my question. I think she does really well when she is on 2.5 mg of pred per day. My preference would be to keep her off pred entirely, since steroids can have side effects long-term. My understanding, though, is that 2.5 mg/day is a fairly low dosage. I am thinking about just keeping her on it for at least a few weeks, maybe longer. She feels good, eats her turkey diet well, and has pretty normal bowels when she is on 2.5 mg/day, and she starts having some problems whenever I taper it lower than that. I have read of cats being on much higher dosages for months. Does anyone have any thoughts as to potential problems with 2.5 mg/day over weeks or months? Does it sound reasonable or problematic, or both? She weighs a little over 9 pounds. There other thing I was thinking of trying is going to 1.25 mg/day and seeing if that works better than 2.5 mg every other day. Any thoughts?The vet I am using now puts cats with IBD on 10 mg/day for months at a time, and does not think there is much of a problem. I am asking you guys because I want a somewhat more nuanced opinion, and I know that some of you appreciate how helpful steroids can be, as I do, but also are wary of the side effects long-term, as I am.Thanks, Michelle
Re: Another disaster - Tonya
Yes, my doctors always chide me because my cats go to every specialist there is. By the time I make it to the doctor for myself I always know what they're talking about because I've dealt with it with one of my cats. lol. They don't find this as amusing as I do. I was talking to the endocrin. about Free T3 tests and TSH, etc... and she was impressed I had researched this before coming in. But I had researched it because I had two hyper-T cats. lol.t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Tonya, I really know what you mean. I have a bunch of health problems myself (endometriosis, polycystic ovaries syndrome, gastritis, depression, had anemia last year which I hope is better...). I seem to only be able to medicate myself properly and get myself to the doctor when the animals are doing relatively well. As soon as I have a long regiment of pilling or vet visits or special diets to make them, though, my own regimen goes down the drain. It's like my brain can't hold that long a to do list and my own treatment gets dropped. I only remember all of it when I remember to write a long list of who gets what when-- and put myself on it! I usually do remember my necessary meds, but I often forget my supplements and vitamins and herbs and stuff... MichelleIn a message dated 2/4/2006 4:46:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you everyone for your well wishes. I've conquered the anemia, had the hysterectomy, am halfway moved in, and hopefully will get the thyroid going. You just all know how it is when you have a zoo to take care of. Between work and just basic care of my guys it's a lot of work. I'm either working, taking care of the critters, vegging out on this computer, or sleeping. That's basically it except when I'm on vacation in the summer. Summer will come. Summer will come! And yes, the only bills that get paid are the ones I can pay online. lol.
Re: Another disaster
I was certainly not being critical! I get myself into trouble all the time because I'm too overzealous. It's good to fight for what you believe in. But you're more effective if you can do it with a cool head. It is VERY hard for me to keep a cool head. That's certainly not an advantage by any means! t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Just to be clear, I am not very good at staying calm myself and do feel quite angry about what people have been putting Hideyo and other rescuers through. But as a lawyer I know I have to evaluate all the options in terms of chances of success and amounts of risk, and that is alI I was advocating doing. I actually have been accused by colleagues of having "hair trigger responses" at times rather than taking a step back and figuring out a more measured response, and it is something that I constantly struggle with. I am learning it a lot more now, because my new job is almost entirely policy work, and I am working on large issues that I have to negotiate with state agencies about, where there is not much recourse beyond convincing them to do the right thing. I am more used to negotiating with agencies over issues that arise in individual cases, where there is something I can go to court about if the negotiations do not get a favorable resolution. But now I am negotiating about new policies that are not actually prohibited or mandated by law, and without individual clients, and it feels a lot different. I can't just stop negotiating at some point and say I will take it before a judge. I have to just keep calm and keep negotiating. It is a new and somewhat uncomfortable position for me, the zealous advocate, but I think it is an important skill to be able to draw on. There may be times that I have ended up in court with clients where I did not have to if I had been a better negotiator.MichelleIn a message dated 2/4/2006 5:04:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know Michelle is right about being calm and taking the safe way out. But I know how it goes against the grain and can make you so angry.
Re: dry food causing problems?
Dry food is mostly fillers and carbohydrates which cats don't need and don't process well. Because it is made up of so much fillers it is essentially not very nutritional and mostly empty calories. I can tell you for a fact all of my cats that prefer dry are overweight, and the only way I could get them to lose weight was take the dry completely away. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Prednisone question
Hi Michelle, My 19 yr old Inky is on pred for possible IBD..My vet wanted me to start him at 10mg a day for 3 weeks then taper to 5mg for another 3 wks...but I have started him on 5mg a day...He was vomiting and had the bouts of runny stool and straining...He hasn't seen the vet though as he has never been sick his entire life so I didn't want to stress him out if we can get it under control this way...so far so good...his stools have firmed up and doesn't seem to be straining...I am also going to do the ground turkey or chicken, too..Right now he is on sci diet I/D topped with a little tuna so he will eat the pill..I don't think it will hurt to leave yours on the pred at a low dose...I was told and have read that it may take a low dose to keep them regular.. You just have to find that right dose as you taper down. I did have a kitty on 20 mg of pred for 3 yrs...as she had a tumor on the back side of her tongue and the pred was the only thing that would keep the inflammation down enough for her to eat...I think it helped to shrink it some for quite awhile because she lived over 3 yrs with it...she was even able to eat dry food again and not choke.. Her skin did get very thin as people do when on long term steroids...but other than that, she didn't have any other problems..Bandy's doctor treated this kitties grandmother with high doses of pred for the rest of her life as she had lymphoma and after chemo was finished she remained on 20 mg of pred for 9 months... Those of the only cases I have had to use such high doses of pred..I didn't like it either, but it seemed to give them a good quality of life for quite awhile.. Kerry and Bandy Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!
Re: Bandy has an eye infection
Hi Michelle, I mix the lysine in Bandy's food. Right now he is eating fancy feast salmon or some other fishy flavor or Salmon Science Diet..I top it with low sodium tuna since Little Rascal eats with him and has a heart condtion...I have to keep it low sodium because of Lil Rascal..and he eats his meds better with it topped with tuna... I mix the lysine, bovine colostrum, Co Q 10 and folic acid in every meal..I try to feed them 3 meals this way for sure and sometimes 4..Lil Rascal also gets a cardio supp in some of his meals, but sometimes, they just won't eat it so I have to switch around..If I add some corn oil to it and make it a little slushy, they eat it well... So it is hard to really tell how much lysine Bandy gets, but I use 2- 500mg pills a day mixed in these meals...they both have been eating good for now.. Can you put some lysine in the water bowl? I was wondering if that would be ok to do..I do know that Bandy and his 2 buddies should all benefit from all the supplements..Like I mentioned, I just have to try to watch the sodium since Lil Rascal is on lasix for congestive heart failure. Bandy's eye seems to be doing ok, but I sure don't like that spot that is in it..or whatever it is...I take him back to the vet in a week or so, but he is still on eye drops with dex in it until then... Kerry and Bandy Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
Re: Bailey Update
Hi Tonya, Yes I have changed his diet to ID it is for sensitive tummies and so far so good, no diarrhea since Thursday night. Now if his bottom will heal and he wouls perk up a bit. We went to the vet and they couldn't get any blood from his legs, so they had to use his jugular. My vet said he is pretty strong still for a kitty so weak at home. I will have the results tomorrow sometime and of course I'm hoping it will be good news. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: dry food causing problems?
My vet told me that the original thinking of dry food is changing. Before it was recommended to only feed dry food. Now they are finding out that cats do become obese or have chronic constipation. Not to mention that dry food is harder to digest and can slow the metabolism. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amy Watson Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 4:39 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: dry food causing problems? I'm reading through Wendy's sick kitty manual, and I just found this, which surprised me: Dry food: Not good for cats. Contributes to obesity. Exacerbates all sorts of health problems. I wondered if you folks could help me understand why this is? We've been feeding our cats weight-management hairball-control dry food for years, and I'd never seen this kind of claim before. Right now we have Eukanuba Mature Care for our cats that are 9 years old and actually eating. -- Amy K. Watson Columbus, Ohio http://writerscereal.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/251 - Release Date: 2/4/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/251 - Release Date: 2/4/2006
Re: Another disaster - Tonya
Yes, I know-- I know more about cancer than my two friends who have it do. Fortunately none of my cats have endometriosis though! Michelle In a message dated 2/4/2006 7:02:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, my doctors always chide me because my cats go to every specialist there is. By the time I make it to the doctor for myself I always know what they're talking about because I've dealt with it with one of my cats. lol. They don't find this as amusing as I do. I was talking to the endocrin. about Free T3 tests and TSH, etc... and she was impressed I had researched this before coming in. But I had researched it because I had two hyper-T cats. lol. t
RE: Bailey Update
Belinda, I know it may sound stupid but what about A D cream (NOT ointment) for his bottom... Works on little babies-- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 9:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bailey Update Hi Tonya, Yes I have changed his diet to ID it is for sensitive tummies and so far so good, no diarrhea since Thursday night. Now if his bottom will heal and he wouls perk up a bit. We went to the vet and they couldn't get any blood from his legs, so they had to use his jugular. My vet said he is pretty strong still for a kitty so weak at home. I will have the results tomorrow sometime and of course I'm hoping it will be good news. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Bandy has an eye infection
I have no idea about putting lysine in the water. It seems like they might be able to taste it, as it does have a taste. Michelle
Re: Bailey Update
Actually a veterinary oncologist told us to use that on our dog Nubi when she was raw from diarrhea and anal gland tumors, and it did help. Michelle In a message dated 2/4/2006 10:29:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Belinda,I know it may sound stupid but what about A D cream (NOT ointment) for hisbottom... Works on little babies--
RE: Bailey Update
Just use the Cream, not the ointmentthe ointment seems to have other things in it and doesnt work quite as well. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Bailey Update Actually a veterinary oncologist told us to use that on our dog Nubi when she was raw from diarrhea and anal gland tumors, and it did help. Michelle In a message dated 2/4/2006 10:29:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Belinda, I know it may sound stupid but what about A D cream (NOT ointment) for his bottom... Works on little babies--
Re: Bailey Update
I'm assuming ID has rice in it already. Rice is the only thing I can think of when it comes to 'bland' food for diarrhea purposes. Maybe ask the vet about mushing up more rice and mixing with the ID to make it blander till the diarrhea stops?I'm making wildguesses here. I really have no clue. Also I don't know about what you're using for his bottom, but I think vaseline is the easiest on them. I know my sister's baby acts like desitin stings..Is he drinking on his own? through the tube? on fluids? Fluids might help perk him up with the electrolytes.Are you 'watering down' the ID for tube feeding? Maybe mix that with pedialyte for the electrolytes, etc...instead of regular water.Could be easier on his stomach and help perk him up?Again. no clue just the only ideas I can come up with.Take care both of you. Fingers crossed on that bloodwork! tBelinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tonya,Yes I have changed his diet to ID it is for sensitive tummies and so far so good, no diarrhea since Thursday night. Now if his bottom will heal and he wouls perk up a bit. We went to the vet and they couldn't get any blood from his legs, so they had to use his jugular. My vet said he is pretty strong still for a kitty so weak at home. I will have the results tomorrow sometime and of course I'm hoping it will be good news. -- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Bailey Update
I would just think an ointment would work better than a cream. The ointment is what blocks the diarrhea from getting to the skin to irritate it more. Cream is not 'waterproof' as such.Also, I don't know what you're washing him with when he has these accidents, but I would use NO soap at all. I would also NOT use paper towels or tissue. I would use only warm wash cloths, preferably with some of the 'cream' stuff to use as the cleaner. OR, if you can find a baby wipe with NO soap, perfume, etc that's exceptionally soft. The more you use soap, wipe, etc... the worse it is going to get, but you can't NOT clean it because that irritates it too But, once you can get it stopped, that pain should heal up very quickly. That's the key. I would ask about the kaopectate. I've used it in the past. I know they've changed the formula and it's not used as much now, but I would at least ask.Just myexperience from prep for a colonoscopy to find out why I was anemic. lol. If anyone ever has to go through this do NOT use Scott tissue. Go get some of the softest tissue you can find.And by the way... I'm anemic due to lack of iron.. after all that!t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Actually a veterinary oncologist told us to use that on our dog Nubi when she was raw from diarrhea and anal gland tumors, and it did help. MichelleIn a message dated 2/4/2006 10:29:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Belinda,I know it may sound stupid but what about A D cream (NOT ointment) for hisbottom... Works on little babies--
