Re: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please

2006-07-07 Thread Nina




Elizabeth, Chris and Wendy,
Thanks so much for the encouragement and prayers. I've always felt
like the ferals in my care are just as much a part of my family as the
animals in my house. We all have a connection and they trust me as far
as their circumstances will allow them to. I talked to an AC once and
asked her who had left me two little dead birds as a present in between
the feeding dishes. I was upset about the birds, but I knew it was a
gift of gratitude and love. It started a couple of days after I began
feeding canned food along with dry, (one of the ferals was aging and I
was trying to help keep him hydrated). The first day I saw the little
dead bird I grimaced and hoped it wouldn't happen again. The next day
there was a baby mocking bird, one of my favorite types of birds, and I
thanked whichever cat it was and asked that they please not do it
again, I like birds better when they're alive. I never got another
baby bird present. Anyway, when I asked the AC which of the cats had
left me the presents, she told me it was the skinny intact male. My
Ceasar! 
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Prayers going up for you and Caesar, Nina. 
  
  Last year I caught the most pitiful Tom and took him to the
vet. He looked terrible. He had large abscesses on both sides of his
face, terrible sores, his ears were shredded. What fur he did have was
matted beyond belief and he had no fur on his tail. He was quite beat
up and his head and face disfigured from his battles. He wasskin and
bones. I didn't think he was going to make it but he did!His ear
will never look quite right but now he has a beautiful coat and a sweet
disposition.I named him Merlin. Afamily in the neighborhood adopted
him but any time he gets out he comes to my front porch. I am hoping
so much that Caesar will make ittoo. Please let us know how it goes
tomorrow.
  
  elizabeth
  
  In a message dated 7/6/2006 8:42:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  You guys all know I caretake a couple of small colonies of
ferals. You 
may have heard me talk about Caesar, "the one that got away". He's a 
big tabby Tom that I tried to trap for a very long time and nothing I 
came up with worked. He disappeared about a year ago and I figured he 
was either killed or found a new territory. Well, he showed up a
couple 
of days ago looking really bad. He's emaciated, has open sores all
over 
his body, hair loss from who knows what, and limping on his right rear 
leg. Yesterday he was in an area that, had I been prepared, I could 
have gotten a net over him. The feral group I belong to convinced me 
not to try to net him, since he's an adult intact Tom, even though he's

sick. I was very lucky to find someone to borrow a drop trap from and 
the good news is, I got him tonight. The bad news is, he's even sadder

looking up close. He was bleeding from the nose and his drool
contained 
blood too. The vet's office where I take ferals to agreed to see him
if 
I bring him in first thing tomorrow. I'm sick with worry over how bad 
he looks. I'm afraid she's going to tell me to pts. Please pray that 
whatever is going on with Ceaser, it's something he can recover from. 
Thanks everyone, I know how much power this group has, and as always, I

appreciate your support,
Nina
  
  
  




Re: To Julia

2006-07-07 Thread Nina

Hi Julia,
I'm very pleased to hear you had a visit from Samantha.  I'm sure the 
new kitty will love you, even if she's not able to show it right off.  
Animals know more about what's going on than most people give them 
credit for and this kitty is probably upset about losing her human and 
home, (and for such a lame reason, I might add).  She can't know how 
happy she'll be with you.  I hope she jumps in your lap and purrs, but 
don't expect her to!  Don't worry about how she seems to feel about you 
at first, let your feelings about her be your guide.  Let us know how 
your meeting goes.

Nina

 Hi, y'all :)

I dreamed about Samantha, 2 mornings ago; I had asked her to let me know 
she was ok, and she did.  I dreamed I was petting her, and playing with 
her, and she was her normal self.  :)   I guess our furr-babies have 
their way of wanting us to be ok, after they pass.  It was a good dream, 
and I was very happy that she sent it to me.  :)   I'm going to see 
another kitty who needs a new home, tomorrow; her owner is moving to an 
apartment, and they don't allow pets.  I want to meet her, first, see if 
she likes me.  I told her owner she could visit her kitty anytime she 
wants.  :)

Julia 





Re: Check out Clumping Clay Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health

2006-07-07 Thread Marylyn



Apple Pectin worked on Mai Mai (a wonderful dog who found me) when she had 
major IBD type symptoms. You might try that. I have used it on 
cats with diarrhea too. My alternative vet recommends it highly. It 
is a health food/internet procuct. 






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

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  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:44 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Check out Clumping Clay 
  Kitty Litters and Your Cat's Health
  
  You know, I am wondering now if Lucy is actually allergic/sensitive to 
  all wood products. She got constipated after I put her on pred and was 
  feeding her just plain broiled turkey for a few days, as her intestines calmed 
  down and she was getting no fiber. I then started mixing some rice bran and a 
  little slippery elm into the turkey. She then had blood on her next stool, and 
  now she is starting to have soft stools again, even though still on 10 mg/day 
  of pred. I remember trying slippery elm with her in the fall when her 
  symptoms started, to try to stop diarrhea, and thinking it made her worse. I 
  gave it to her for constipation this time, and I think it brought back her IBD 
  symptoms (if that is what is going on). If this is an IBD flare-up, and not 
  lymphoma, I think it was caused by the feline pine litter. And now I think she 
  is worse because of slippery elm. Which makes me wonder if she is allergic to 
  wood derivatives in general.
  
  Michelle
  
  

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Re: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please

2006-07-07 Thread Marylyn
First listen to Ceaser, not your vet, re his fate.  He came back to you for 
help.  What kind of help is a real question but for help.  Ebony Thomas Katt 
was totally torn up when he chose me to take care of him--blood and pus ran 
down my legs from his wounds.  He lived with me, first as a feral, then as 
an outdoor cat, then an outdoor-indoor then about 13 years as an indoor cat 
sleeping on my bed and ruling my life.  I have had other ferals in bad shape 
come for help.  Maybe it is time Ceaser became an indoor cat--or at least a 
cat who owned a person.  Please listen to him.









If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:41 PM
Subject: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please


You guys all know I caretake a couple of small colonies of ferals.  You 
may have heard me talk about Caesar, the one that got away.  He's a big 
tabby Tom that I tried to trap for a very long time and nothing I came up 
with worked.  He disappeared about a year ago and I figured he was either 
killed or found a new territory.  Well, he showed up a couple of days ago 
looking really bad.  He's emaciated, has open sores all over his body, 
hair loss from who knows what, and limping on his right rear leg. 
Yesterday he was in an area that, had I been prepared, I could have gotten 
a net over him.  The feral group I belong to convinced me not to try to 
net him, since he's an adult intact Tom, even though he's sick.  I was 
very lucky to find someone to borrow a drop trap from and the good news 
is, I got him tonight.  The bad news is, he's even sadder looking up 
close.  He was bleeding from the nose and his drool contained blood too. 
The vet's office where I take ferals to agreed to see him if I bring him 
in first thing tomorrow.  I'm sick with worry over how bad he looks.  I'm 
afraid she's going to tell me to pts.  Please pray that whatever is going 
on with Ceaser, it's something he can recover from. Thanks everyone, I 
know how much power this group has, and as always, I appreciate your 
support,

Nina





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Re: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please

2006-07-07 Thread Marylyn



Now is a very good time to get back in contact with 
the AC. Ceasar needs to talk to you and is not sure you can listen. 
A vet who is used to dealing with ferals can handle them re medication. I 
have had a couple (one very sick and another because she seriously bite me) have 
to stay a couple of weeks at the vets. They don't like it but they can 
handle it. Especially if you cover the cage, put feliway all around and 
Rescue Remedy in the water and on the cat (as possible). It also helps 
"tame them down." Ferals are the most wonderful cats..continue to 
send this little boy all the love in your heart. He loves you in true 
feral fashion.






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Nina 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:14 AM
  Subject: Re: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar 
  please
  Elizabeth, Chris and Wendy,Thanks so much for the 
  encouragement and prayers. I've always felt like the ferals in my care 
  are just as much a part of my family as the animals in my house. We all 
  have a connection and they trust me as far as their circumstances will allow 
  them to. I talked to an AC once and asked her who had left me two little 
  dead birds as a present in between the feeding dishes. I was upset about 
  the birds, but I knew it was a gift of gratitude and love. It started a 
  couple of days after I began feeding canned food along with dry, (one of the 
  ferals was aging and I was trying to help keep him hydrated). The first 
  day I saw the little dead bird I grimaced and hoped it wouldn't happen 
  again. The next day there was a baby mocking bird, one of my favorite 
  types of birds, and I thanked whichever cat it was and asked that they please 
  not do it again, I like birds better when they're alive. I never got 
  another baby bird present. Anyway, when I asked the AC which of the cats 
  had left me the presents, she told me it was the skinny intact male. My 
  Ceasar! Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  


Prayers going up for you and Caesar, Nina. 

Last year I caught the most pitiful Tom and took him to the vet. 
He looked terrible. He had large abscesses on both sides of his face, 
terrible sores, his ears were shredded. What fur he did have was 
matted beyond belief and he had no fur on his tail. He was quite beat 
up and his head and face disfigured from his battles. He wasskin 
and bones. I didn't think he was going to make it but he 
did!His ear will never look quite right but now he has a 
beautiful coat and a sweet disposition.I named him Merlin. 
Afamily in the neighborhood adopted him but any time he gets out he 
comes to my front porch. I am hoping so much that Caesar will make 
ittoo. Please let us know how it goes tomorrow.

elizabeth

In a message dated 7/6/2006 8:42:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You 
  guys all know I caretake a couple of small colonies of ferals. You 
  may have heard me talk about Caesar, "the one that got away". 
  He's a big tabby Tom that I tried to trap for a very long time and 
  nothing I came up with worked. He disappeared about a year ago 
  and I figured he was either killed or found a new territory. 
  Well, he showed up a couple of days ago looking really bad. He's 
  emaciated, has open sores all over his body, hair loss from who knows 
  what, and limping on his right rear leg. Yesterday he was in an 
  area that, had I been prepared, I could have gotten a net over 
  him. The feral group I belong to convinced me not to try to net 
  him, since he's an adult intact Tom, even though he's sick. I 
  was very lucky to find someone to borrow a drop trap from and the good 
  news is, I got him tonight. The bad news is, he's even sadder 
  looking up close. He was bleeding from the nose and his drool 
  contained blood too. The vet's office where I take ferals to 
  agreed to see him if I bring him in first thing tomorrow. I'm 
  sick with worry over how bad he looks. I'm afraid she's going to 
  tell me to pts. Please pray that whatever is going on with 
  Ceaser, it's something he can recover from. Thanks everyone, I know 
  how much power this group has, and as always, I appreciate your 
  support,Nina

  
  

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Re: To Julia

2006-07-07 Thread Marylyn
I'm obviously a big fan of Feliway spray and Rescue Remedy.You might try 
the spray on yourself when you visit.  It will make it easier on the cat 
which will make it easier on the person who is having to give her up and on 
you.  You might also ask Samantha for help.  You would be surprised what 
critters who have left will do for you.  Mai Mai helped with Kitty 
Katt well, some people would have me committed for knowing how much a 
dead dog could help a cat.  Try it.  Samantha loves you and will do anything 
to help you.  Just believe it enough to ask her.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: To Julia



Hi Julia,
I'm very pleased to hear you had a visit from Samantha.  I'm sure the new 
kitty will love you, even if she's not able to show it right off.  Animals 
know more about what's going on than most people give them credit for and 
this kitty is probably upset about losing her human and home, (and for 
such a lame reason, I might add).  She can't know how happy she'll be with 
you.  I hope she jumps in your lap and purrs, but don't expect her to! 
Don't worry about how she seems to feel about you at first, let your 
feelings about her be your guide.  Let us know how your meeting goes.

Nina

 Hi, y'all :)

I dreamed about Samantha, 2 mornings ago; I had asked her to let me know 
she was ok, and she did.  I dreamed I was petting her, and playing with 
her, and she was her normal self.  :)   I guess our furr-babies have their 
way of wanting us to be ok, after they pass.  It was a good dream, and I 
was very happy that she sent it to me.  :)   I'm going to see another 
kitty who needs a new home, tomorrow; her owner is moving to an apartment, 
and they don't allow pets.  I want to meet her, first, see if she likes 
me.  I told her owner she could visit her kitty anytime she wants.  :)

Julia 






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Re: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please

2006-07-07 Thread Joan Doljan
Hands and paws crossed here for Ceasar. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  You guys all know I caretake a couple of small colonies of ferals. You may have heard me talk about Caesar, "the one that got away". He's a big tabby Tom that I tried to trap for a very long time and nothing I came up with worked. He disappeared about a year ago and I figured he was either killed or found a new territory. Well, he showed up a couple of days ago looking really bad. He's emaciated, has open sores all over his body, hair loss from who knows what, and limping on his right rear leg. Yesterday he was in an area that, had I been prepared, I could have gotten a net over him. The feral group I belong to convinced me not to try to net him, since he's an adult intact Tom, even though he's sick. I was very lucky to find someone
 to borrow a drop trap from and the good news is, I got him tonight. The bad news is, he's even sadder looking up close. He was bleeding from the nose and his drool contained blood too. The vet's office where I take ferals to agreed to see him if I bring him in first thing tomorrow. I'm sick with worry over how bad he looks. I'm afraid she's going to tell me to pts. Please pray that whatever is going on with Ceaser, it's something he can recover from. Thanks everyone, I know how much power this group has, and as always, I appreciate your support,Nina

Re: this groups is so much nicer than other groups!

2006-07-07 Thread Kerry Roach
Michelle,  Sorry you had so much trouble with your other groups...I go to other groups, but this is the only one that I post on as I really can't keep up with all of it..Like you said, it is true that we are all here to help each other. We have all experienced different things with our kitties, and what works for one might not the other...The info always helps as it could be used down the road for some other kitty in distress.. I appreciate everyone on here for all the input they have given me..Sure makes it alot easier to handle..  What about I/D for the IBD? I give Inky some of that when I am out of turkey which isn't often, but it does happen. I have been mixing chicken broth with his turkey and he really likes it..I figure it might be ok since his stools are good lately.  Kerry and Bandy 
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2006-07-07 Thread Kerry Roach
He was up last night when I went in there...I guess he had been eating as one side of his food tray was empty..I always give him 2 or 3 choices as I need him to eat..and always one without any supps in it..That may be crazy, but I want him to eat most of all. He looks awful cause of the ringworm, but wasn't limping much that I could tell. The swelling is gone from his leg today so I don't know what that was...the soft tissue swelling is still there some, but he didn't seem to be in any pain now..  Anyway, I will let you know how it goes..Once again, thanks to all of your for always being here..  Kerry and Bandy 
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Re: OT - Meed prayers for Ceasar please

2006-07-07 Thread Kerry Roach
Nina,  I hope you can get the needed help for Ceasar and that it is something treatable.. Do you think he was just in some fight or some type of accident? I know how it is with the ferals as I, too, feed a bunch. I think people know that and drop them off close by so they will get fed...  Our prayers are with you and Ceasar.   Kerry and Bandy 
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FeLV/FIV Positive Kitty Needs Home - Urgent

2006-07-07 Thread Amy Wilkins
I'm writing to see if anybody has room to take a nice
cat located in Rochester, NY.  I will arrange for
transportation if anybody has room.  I would take her
myself but I am 8 months pregnant and still very ill. 
On top of that, my dog has recently been diagnosed
with bone cancer and only has weeks to months to live.
 My husband has owned him since a puppy and is
absolutely devastated since he may not make it til the
birth of our first baby.  Since Rocket's leg is awful,
I don't want to add a cat that he may play with or run
around with as he could break his leg easily.  As sick
as he is, he still thinks he is a puppy.  I have 5
cats of my own but with having to go into the hospital
soon and with having to try to care for a sick Great
Dane when I'm big as a house, I really can't stir up
the mix right now.  I'm laboring at home and having to
introduce a new cat right now could make things really
tough.  On the other hand, I think I own the brother
and sister to this cat and they are 2 of the best cats
I've ever had, both given to me by this vet.  My vet
is moving to a new house and desperately needs to
relocate this cat.  Her horse just died unexpectedly
on the 4th of July and she is heartbroken.  On top of
that, she is worried about not finding a home for this
cat.  I would love to be able to give her good news
and let her know that somebody could take this girl. 
Could anybody take her in?  Please write me if you
would even consider it and we can talk.  I have a
picture of her too.  I've attached the letter from my
vet below.  

Amy  

Hi Amy,

I'd like to know if you can put me in touch with your
leukemia list, as I have a cat to place.  She is the
cat who lives at the barn where Sierra and Mav came
from.  Unfortunately, she has tested positive for 
BOTH leukemia and FIV, confirmed with IFA  Western
blot.  She is currently very happy, seems healthy, is
receiving regular exams by me, IFN-a once a day,
regular distemper and rabies vaccines, and deworming. 

She is currently living in our barn but I do not
believe she would have difficulty making the
transition inside.  The reason she still lives outside
is because she is still in contact with the cats who
made her 
sick, so where's the harm.  She is very friendly, but
is only so-so excited about being cuddled (she is a
tortie).  She is a little wary of other cats, but the
cats she is currently in contact with are feral and 
have bitten/chased her so I don't necessarily blame
her for being a loner.

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FeLV/FIV Positive Kitty Needs Home - Urgent

2006-07-07 Thread Amy Wilkins
I'm writing to see if anybody has room to take a nice
cat located in Rochester, NY.  I will arrange for
transportation if anybody has room.  I would take her
myself but I am 8 months pregnant and still very ill. 
On top of that, my dog has recently been diagnosed
with bone cancer and only has weeks to months to live.
 My husband has owned him since a puppy and is
absolutely devastated since he may not make it til the
birth of our first baby.  Since Rocket's leg is awful,
I don't want to add a cat that he may play with or run
around with as he could break his leg easily.  As sick
as he is, he still thinks he is a puppy.  I have 5
cats of my own but with having to go into the hospital
soon and with having to try to care for a sick Great
Dane when I'm big as a house, I really can't stir up
the mix right now.  I'm laboring at home and having to
introduce a new cat right now could make things really
tough.  On the other hand, I think I own the brother
and sister to this cat and they are 2 of the best cats
I've ever had, both given to me by this vet.  My vet
is moving to a new house and desperately needs to
relocate this cat.  Her horse just died unexpectedly
on the 4th of July and she is heartbroken.  On top of
that, she is worried about not finding a home for this
cat.  I would love to be able to give her good news
and let her know that somebody could take this girl. 
Could anybody take her in?  Please write me if you
would even consider it and we can talk.  I have a
picture of her too.  I've attached the letter from my
vet below.  

Amy  

Hi Amy,

I'd like to know if you can put me in touch with your
leukemia list, as I have a cat to place.  She is the
cat who lives at the barn where Sierra and Mav came
from.  Unfortunately, she has tested positive for 
BOTH leukemia and FIV, confirmed with IFA  Western
blot.  She is currently very happy, seems healthy, is
receiving regular exams by me, IFN-a once a day,
regular distemper and rabies vaccines, and deworming. 

She is currently living in our barn but I do not
believe she would have difficulty making the
transition inside.  The reason she still lives outside
is because she is still in contact with the cats who
made her 
sick, so where's the harm.  She is very friendly, but
is only so-so excited about being cuddled (she is a
tortie).  She is a little wary of other cats, but the
cats she is currently in contact with are feral and 
have bitten/chased her so I don't necessarily blame
her for being a loner.

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Re: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please

2006-07-07 Thread Belinda

  Nina,
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Re: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please

2006-07-07 Thread Nina

Marylyn,
You should realize that there is no worry about what my decision will be 
if Ceasar chooses to give up his life on the street!  It's not me that 
needs convincing, the other cats in my household might though.  Be 
assured that I will do everything in my power to help Ceasar in any way 
I can and in whatever way he'll let me.  I had been asking him to trust 
me enough to let me help him and the fact that he showed up last night 
and I was able to catch him so quickly tells me he heard me.  At this 
point it's not Ceasar that I'm as concerned about good communication 
with as much as the vet.  She's the one that needs to understand how 
important it is to save him, if at all possible.  Please keep praying 
that Ceasar's greater good be served.

Thank you for your concern about Ceaser, it's truly appreciated,
Nina

Marylyn wrote:

First listen to Ceaser, not your vet, re his fate.  He came back to 
you for help.  What kind of help is a real question but for help.  
Ebony Thomas Katt was totally torn up when he chose me to take care of 
him--blood and pus ran down my legs from his wounds.  He lived with 
me, first as a feral, then as an outdoor cat, then an outdoor-indoor 
then about 13 years as an indoor cat sleeping on my bed and ruling my 
life.  I have had other ferals in bad shape come for help.  Maybe it 
is time Ceaser became an indoor cat--or at least a cat who owned a 
person.  Please listen to him.









If you have men who 
will exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise 
with their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis

- Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:41 PM
Subject: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please


You guys all know I caretake a couple of small colonies of ferals.  
You may have heard me talk about Caesar, the one that got away.  
He's a big tabby Tom that I tried to trap for a very long time and 
nothing I came up with worked.  He disappeared about a year ago and I 
figured he was either killed or found a new territory.  Well, he 
showed up a couple of days ago looking really bad.  He's emaciated, 
has open sores all over his body, hair loss from who knows what, and 
limping on his right rear leg. Yesterday he was in an area that, had 
I been prepared, I could have gotten a net over him.  The feral group 
I belong to convinced me not to try to net him, since he's an adult 
intact Tom, even though he's sick.  I was very lucky to find someone 
to borrow a drop trap from and the good news is, I got him tonight.  
The bad news is, he's even sadder looking up close.  He was bleeding 
from the nose and his drool contained blood too. The vet's office 
where I take ferals to agreed to see him if I bring him in first 
thing tomorrow.  I'm sick with worry over how bad he looks.  I'm 
afraid she's going to tell me to pts.  Please pray that whatever is 
going on with Ceaser, it's something he can recover from. Thanks 
everyone, I know how much power this group has, and as always, I 
appreciate your support,

Nina





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Re: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please

2006-07-07 Thread Nina

Thank you Sherry.

Sherry DeHaan wrote:


Nina,prayers to you and poor Caesar
Sherry 






Re: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please

2006-07-07 Thread Nina

Thank you Joan.
Nina

Joan Doljan wrote:


Hands and paws crossed here for Ceasar.






Re: OT - Meed prayers for Ceasar please

2006-07-07 Thread Nina

Thanks Kerry,
That's what I was hoping.  He could be so skinny from being too busy to 
eat.  It is kitten season, and he's still intact.  It may be that people 
are dumping cats near you, or it may be that the word is out in cat 
circles that you are a human that will help.  Either way, I know you are 
one of the good humans that can't turn their back on someone in need.  
I'm pleased to hear that Bandy is doing a little better this morning.  I 
sure do pray that the rw will stop plaguing him and that he continues to 
recover from his other ailments.  Strength and courage to you,

Nina

Kerry Roach wrote:


Nina,
I hope you can get the needed help for Ceasar and that it is something 
treatable.. Do you think he was just in some fight or some type of 
accident?  I know how it is with the ferals as I, too, feed a bunch.  
I think people know that and drop them off close by so they will get 
fed...
Our prayers are with you and Ceasar. 
Kerry and Bandy



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Re: OT - Need prayers for Ceasar please

2006-07-07 Thread TatorBunz


Nina,
 Ceasar is in my thoughts and prayers. I'm glad he came back to you...I agree that he is trying to seek help from you.
I hope the Vet visit goes well for him.
Please do let us know what happens!

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Re: this groups is so much nicer than other groups!

2006-07-07 Thread TatorBunz


This group and my other group (WA Siamese Rescue) are far more the best.
People like that shouldn't be allowed to moderate groups. 
I am surprise too she didn't ask what size underwear/bras you wore.
I was on a group a few years ago like that decided to leave as well. Took some groups members with me. 
When "Moderators" dictate on what to say or do that draws a fine line with me. They can shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
So once again this is a great group of people!
Have always considered thisgroup a part of my family. When one or more of the furkidsare sick it affects me as well I feel the pain of what their furfamilies are going through.
That day will come when we all will get together and have that "Cheesecake" (even though I don't like it) as a victory/cure for Felv.

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Re: Bandy's latest

2006-07-07 Thread wendy
Kerry,

Prayers going out for little Bandy.  He is such a
trooper!  Give him hugs from me.

:)
Wendy

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 He is sick again...He started limping on the left
 leg Sunday and it seemed to be causing him some pain
 so I started giving him some pain meds and also a
 dex on Sunday..He is eating and drinking some, but
 since he was to go to eye spec. on today, I thought
 I had better have him checked out since he wasn't
 any better on Wed..So he had 105.5 temp and very out
 of it...I hope we caught this in time this
 time...anyway his vet here thinks we should go back
 to the internal med specialist to have a bone scan
 done cause the leg problems are just going back and
 forth...this is about the 4th or 5th time he has
 been in for this in the last 6 wks...he gets better
 then it goes to the other leg with some soft tissue
 swelling...Any of you had any sort of trouble like
 this?  I did ask about the RA tests and she said
 sometimes they aren't conclusive...so MRI or bone
 scan or something on that line might tell us what is
 going on...She is suppose to call the specialist
 today...so I hope we get
  an appt. asap..We are going to start the IR on
 Monday cause his temp needs to be down when we give
 the first injection..Anyway, the eye appt is off for
 now..have to re-schedule..
   Please keep him in your prayers once again...
   Hope everyone else is doing good today. 
   Kerry and Bandy
 
   
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FeLV vaccination of recovered cat?

2006-07-07 Thread Jen Reinke

Hello,

My parent's cat tested positive for FeLV as a young kitten- she was a 
stray and we assume that she was infected by her mother. Six months 
later she was tested again and was negative. We were told that it was 
possible that she either fought it off, or that the antibodies in her 
system were actually her mother's and that she never really contracted 
the disease. She is now due to have a vaccination for FeLV, but we are 
concerned that this will have negative effects, given her history, or 
that she does not need it as she should have antibodies already in her 
system. Is there any information about how such a situation should be 
handled?


Thanks for any info or leads on the subject!
Jen




OT: Interview at the Dog Pound (Article)

2006-07-07 Thread TatorBunz




This was sent to me. It's reality. 
This was written by an author in Canada.
Please forward to others.

I wrote a story today. I have submitted it to a Canadian dog magazine, and I am hopeful they will print it. It might just help ONE dog. Permission to cross post granted, as long my name, contact email and copyright appear with it.Interview at the Dog PoundAs a journalist, I decided to go to the dog pound, and interview some of the “inmates”. I wanted to know what it was like in there from their perspective. What follows is not for the faint of heart.I entered the building, and one of the workers accompanied me to the holding area. This is where dogs are kept before they are allowed up for adoption…IF they are allowed up for adoption. If the dogs are found to be aggressive in any way, euthanasia is employed. Fortunately, if “fortunately” is the word to be used here…this is a Canadian establishment, and they use lethal injection, not a gas chamber.The pound worker led me past a big steel door that says “Employees Only”. “What is in there?” I asked. From the look he gave me, I knew that this is where dogs go in, and never return.We moved on to a row of kennels. The dogs were barking loudly, there was the acrid smell of urine and feces, and a feeling of despair seemed to permeate the room.“Go ahead,” the worker said. “They’re all yours.”PETEYI looked into the first kennel, and saw only the back of a medium sized dog who was curled up in the corner of his kennel, shivering. He was mostly white, with some black spots. “Hello?” I said. “May I come in?” He lifted his head, as though it weighed more than he could bear. When he looked at me, I could see he was a Pitbull. His eyes were gentle, but filled with grief. “Enter,” was all he said.I stepped in, closing the gate behind me. He put his head back down, facing away from me. I crouched down a few feet away.“My name is Pete. Petey my Master called me,” he said, still not looking at me.“Why are you here Pete?” I asked.“I am here because Master cannot afford to move to another province. I am here because someone with power said I am vicious, and a killer. Someone who never met me. Master took me for a walk one day, and some lady started to scream when she saw me. I got frightened, and barked at her. The dog police came, and they took me away. I have been with Master for 10 years. The last time I saw him, he just held me and cried. He kept telling me he was sorry. I worry for him. Whatever will he do without me?” Pete shivered even more. A tear slid down my face. I am supposed to remain objective, but this was wrong…so wrong.“Thank you Pete.” I said. He said nothing as I got up and left his kennel.PopperThe kennel next to Pete’s held a very young looking dog. Pure Border Collie by my guess. He stood on his hind legs, looking at me through the gate.“Hello. My name’s Popper. He tilted his head. “Are you here to take me home?”“No, I’m sorry,” I replied. “But I would like to talk with you.””Sure. What would you like to talk about?”“Popper, how did you come to be in this place?” I asked.Popper dropped down from the gate, with a perplexed look on his face. He walked to the back of the kennel, then back to the front. I noticed he had one blue eye, and one brown. He was quite beautiful. His black and white coat was shiny and thick.“I am not certain WHY I am here. I think maybe my family will come back for me. They bought me when I was only 6 weeks old. I remember they said how smart Border Collies are, and how it would be so easy to train me. They were very excited at first. The little ones played with me all the time. But the trouble with little Masters is, they refuse to stay in a group. I constantly had to nip their heels to keep them together.” He looked confused. “Why won’t they stay in a group?” he sighed. “So I did what I thought I should do. I am not quite sure why the little ones screamed when I did my job, but they did, and the Masters got very angry at me. They also got angry when I had to relieve myself, and did so in the house. I am not sure where they expected me to go. All they said was that I was the smartest breed in the world, and I should just KNOW better. Then they left me in the yard for a month or so. I got bored a lot, and I dug holes in the grass. The next thing I knew, the Masters brought me here.”Popper jumped back up on the gate, his white paws protruding through the links. He looked at me with his lovely eyes, and asked “Will you please let them know I want to come home? Please tell them I promise I will be good?”“I will Popper,” I said.SpartanMy heart was breaking. I was beginning to regret coming here, but their stories had to be told. I moved along. The next dog I saw looked to be easily 100 lbs., a Rottweiler. He was handsome indeed, except for the scars on his face and back. He tilted his head, and looked me right in the eyes.“Hello. Who are you?” he asked.“I am a reporter,” I replied. “May I speak with you for a little while?””Most 

Re: FeLV vaccination of recovered cat?

2006-07-07 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Jen, 
  It is common for kittens to test positive if infected by the mother
and then test negative later.
  But why is she due for an FELV vaccination? FELV vaccinations aren't
routine. Is she going to be kept with positive kitties or is she going
to be an outdoor cat?

Bonnie

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- Original Message -
From: Jen Reinke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, July 7, 2006 2:04 pm
Subject: FeLV  vaccination of recovered cat?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Hello,
 
 My parent's cat tested positive for FeLV as a young kitten- she was 
 a 
 stray and we assume that she was infected by her mother. Six months 
 later she was tested again and was negative. We were told that it 
 was 
 possible that she either fought it off, or that the antibodies in 
 her 
 system were actually her mother's and that she never really 
 contracted 
 the disease. She is now due to have a vaccination for FeLV, but we 
 are 
 concerned that this will have negative effects, given her history, 
 or 
 that she does not need it as she should have antibodies already in 
 her 
 system. Is there any information about how such a situation should 
 be 
 handled?
 
 Thanks for any info or leads on the subject!
 Jen
 
 
 



Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread Nina

Hello my beloved group,
I just got the call from the vet.  Ceasar had deep puncture wounds that 
were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and the 
most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was 
limping.  He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was felv+.  
They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why there was 
blood in his saliva.  The vet, who is always reluctant to recommend 
euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up from 
the kind of pain he must have been living with.  I still hesitated, I 
still thought maybe there was a way.  I asked if there could be any 
doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no.  Before we 
left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of the 
trap.  His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty feel 
that comes from flea infestation.  Poor little lamb!  He was angry, but 
he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss.  I spoke softly to him and 
told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home.  I had so 
prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security this 
afternoon.  I had to finally decide to let him go.   I'm so sick about 
not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be 
healthy today.  I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is that 
he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no longer 
producing felv kittens.  He lived the hard life of a cat on the street 
and I helped him as best I could.  Thank you all for caring about a 
special little feral boy and understanding how he has left an imprint on 
my heart.

Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend.  I will love you always.
Nina




Re: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread moonvine
I'm so sorry for your loss, Nina.

- Original Message -
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, July 7, 2006 2:30 pm
Subject: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, Paul Hendel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hello my beloved group,
 I just got the call from the vet.  Ceasar had deep puncture wounds 
 that 
 were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and 
 the 
 most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was 
 limping.  He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was 
 felv+.  
 They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why 
 there was 
 blood in his saliva.  The vet, who is always reluctant to 
 recommend 
 euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up 
 from 
 the kind of pain he must have been living with.  I still 
 hesitated, I 
 still thought maybe there was a way.  I asked if there could be 
 any 
 doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no.  Before 
 we 
 left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of 
 the 
 trap.  His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty 
 feel 
 that comes from flea infestation.  Poor little lamb!  He was 
 angry, but 
 he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss.  I spoke softly to him 
 and 
 told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home.  I 
 had so 
 prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security 
 this 
 afternoon.  I had to finally decide to let him go.   I'm so sick 
 about 
 not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be 
 healthy today.  I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is 
 that 
 he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no 
 longer 
 producing felv kittens.  He lived the hard life of a cat on the 
 street 
 and I helped him as best I could.  Thank you all for caring about 
 a 
 special little feral boy and understanding how he has left an 
 imprint on 
 my heart.
 Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend.  I will love you always.
 Nina
 
 



RE: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread Doljan, Joan
I am so sorry about Ceasar. I think the whole group was hoping for a
different outcome. I believe you did the gentlest, bravest thing you
could do to help him and released him from his pain.

Joan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 3:30 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Paul Hendel
Subject: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)


Hello my beloved group,
I just got the call from the vet.  Ceasar had deep puncture wounds that 
were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and the 
most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was 
limping.  He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was felv+.  
They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why there was

blood in his saliva.  The vet, who is always reluctant to recommend 
euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up from 
the kind of pain he must have been living with.  I still hesitated, I 
still thought maybe there was a way.  I asked if there could be any 
doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no.  Before we 
left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of the 
trap.  His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty feel 
that comes from flea infestation.  Poor little lamb!  He was angry, but 
he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss.  I spoke softly to him and 
told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home.  I had so 
prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security this 
afternoon.  I had to finally decide to let him go.   I'm so sick about 
not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be 
healthy today.  I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is that 
he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no longer 
producing felv kittens.  He lived the hard life of a cat on the street 
and I helped him as best I could.  Thank you all for caring about a 
special little feral boy and understanding how he has left an imprint on

my heart.
Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend.  I will love you always. Nina





Re: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread Barb Moermond
GLOW to light his path and ease your heart - thank you for helping him.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello my beloved group,I just got the call from the vet. Ceasar had deep puncture wounds that were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and the most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was limping. He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was felv+. They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why there was blood in his saliva. The vet, who is always reluctant to recommend euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up from the kind of pain he must have been living with. I still hesitated, I still thought maybe there was a way. I asked if there could be any doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no. Before we
 left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of the trap. His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty feel that comes from flea infestation. Poor little lamb! He was angry, but he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss. I spoke softly to him and told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home. I had so prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security this afternoon. I had to finally decide to let him go. I'm so sick about not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be healthy today. I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is that he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no longer producing felv kittens. He lived the hard life of a cat on the street and I helped him as best I could. Thank you all for caring about a special little feral boy and understanding how he has left an imprint on my heart.Bless you my
 sweet, brave, clever friend. I will love you always.NinaBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous 
	
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Re: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread Gina WN
Thank you for all you did forNina and for loving him.GinaNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello my beloved group,I just got the call from the vet. Ceasar had deep puncture wounds that were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and the most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was limping. He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was felv+. They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why there was blood in his saliva. The vet, who is always reluctant to recommend euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up from the kind of pain he must have been living with. I still hesitated, I still thought maybe there was a way. I asked if there could be any
 doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no. Before we left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of the trap. His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty feel that comes from flea infestation. Poor little lamb! He was angry, but he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss. I spoke softly to him and told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home. I had so prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security this afternoon. I had to finally decide to let him go. I'm so sick about not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be healthy today. I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is that he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no longer producing felv kittens. He lived the hard life of a cat on the street and I helped him as best I could. Thank you all for caring about a special little feral boy and
 understanding how he has left an imprint on my heart.Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend. I will love you always.NinaNo heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery  Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines  
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Re: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread Kat
Dear Nina,

I'm crying with you - I was so hoping he would recover.
He knows you loved him, and he knows you only wanted the best for him.
Please don't think of it as a failure on your part - you succeeded in
more ways than you realize. That is why he came back to you - because he
knew you would help him.  He knew it was his time, and that he lived as
long as he chose to. Even the animals have SOME free choice, and he chose
you to help him make his transition, gently, peacefully, and lovingly.

I will light a candle for him tonight.  Please know that you are in my
thoughts and prayers.

Sleep soft, dear Ceasar.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Nina wrote:

 Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:29:50 -0700
 From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, Paul Hendel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

 Hello my beloved group,
 I just got the call from the vet.  Ceasar had deep puncture wounds that
 were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and the
 most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was
 limping.  He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was felv+.
 They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why there was
 blood in his saliva.  The vet, who is always reluctant to recommend
 euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up from
 the kind of pain he must have been living with.  I still hesitated, I
 still thought maybe there was a way.  I asked if there could be any
 doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no.  Before we
 left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of the
 trap.  His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty feel
 that comes from flea infestation.  Poor little lamb!  He was angry, but
 he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss.  I spoke softly to him and
 told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home.  I had so
 prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security this
 afternoon.  I had to finally decide to let him go.   I'm so sick about
 not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be
 healthy today.  I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is that
 he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no longer
 producing felv kittens.  He lived the hard life of a cat on the street
 and I helped him as best I could.  Thank you all for caring about a
 special little feral boy and understanding how he has left an imprint on
 my heart.
 Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend.  I will love you always.
 Nina






Re: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread Roxane Baldwin
Nina, I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm so happy this street boy had a friend he could depend on to do the right thing, I am also crying with you. Thank you for loving the street kids.May God Bless you greatlyRoxaneNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello my beloved group,I just got the call from the vet. Ceasar had deep puncture wounds that were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and the most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was limping. He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was felv+. They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why there was blood in his saliva. The vet, who is always reluctant to recommend euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to
 wake up from the kind of pain he must have been living with. I still hesitated, I still thought maybe there was a way. I asked if there could be any doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no. Before we left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of the trap. His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty feel that comes from flea infestation. Poor little lamb! He was angry, but he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss. I spoke softly to him and told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home. I had so prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security this afternoon. I had to finally decide to let him go. I'm so sick about not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be healthy today. I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is that he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no longer producing felv
 kittens. He lived the hard life of a cat on the street and I helped him as best I could. Thank you all for caring about a special little feral boy and understanding how he has left an imprint on my heart.Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend. I will love you always.Nina 
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RE: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Nina,, I am so sad.and dont
know what to say I am in shocklife is just not fair sometimesI
will come up with more meaningful thing to say I just need a bit time to
digest this informationand I am just so mad that he had to go..











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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Barb Moermond
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:52
PM
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Subject: Re: Ceasar is no longer
in pain (please add him to the CLS)





GLOW to light his path and ease your heart - thank you for helping him.

Nina
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Hello my beloved group,
I just got the call from the vet. Ceasar had deep puncture wounds that 
were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and the 
most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was 
limping. He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was felv+. 
They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why there was 
blood in his saliva. The vet, who is always reluctant to recommend 
euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up from 
the kind of pain he must have been living with. I still hesitated, I 
still thought maybe there was a way. I asked if there could be any 
doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no. Before we 
left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of the 
trap. His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty feel 
that comes from flea infestation. Poor little lamb! He was angry, but 
he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss. I spoke softly to him and 
told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home. I had so 
prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security this 
afternoon. I had to finally decide to let him go. I'm so sick about 
not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be 
healthy today. I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is that 
he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no longer 
producing felv kittens. He lived the hard life of a cat on the street 
and I helped him as best I could. Thank you all for caring about a 
special little feral boy and understanding how he has left an imprint on 
my heart.
Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend. I will love you always.
Nina






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Re: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread jenmeyer
Oh, Nina!  I'm so sorry...Please don't blame yourself, it sounds like 
Ceasar knew what he was doing and just who to go to for the relief he 
so desperately needed.  He obviously trusted you...what a blessing 
that he knew he could come to you!  Please take care of 
yourself...Ceasar is no longer in pain and well on his way to his next 
big adventure!

Jen


But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be 
unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; 
You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine 
de Saint-Exupéry

If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know 
each other.  If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and 
what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --
Chief Dan George

The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long... --Blade 
Runner

- Original Message -
From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, July 7, 2006 2:31 pm
Subject: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, Paul Hendel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hello my beloved group,
 I just got the call from the vet.  Ceasar had deep puncture wounds 
 that 
 were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and 
 the 
 most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was 
 limping.  He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was 
 felv+.  
 They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why 
 there was 
 blood in his saliva.  The vet, who is always reluctant to 
 recommend 
 euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up 
 from 
 the kind of pain he must have been living with.  I still 
 hesitated, I 
 still thought maybe there was a way.  I asked if there could be 
 any 
 doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no.  Before 
 we 
 left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of 
 the 
 trap.  His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty 
 feel 
 that comes from flea infestation.  Poor little lamb!  He was 
 angry, but 
 he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss.  I spoke softly to him 
 and 
 told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home.  I 
 had so 
 prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security 
 this 
 afternoon.  I had to finally decide to let him go.   I'm so sick 
 about 
 not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be 
 healthy today.  I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is 
 that 
 he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no 
 longer 
 producing felv kittens.  He lived the hard life of a cat on the 
 street 
 and I helped him as best I could.  Thank you all for caring about 
 a 
 special little feral boy and understanding how he has left an 
 imprint on 
 my heart.
 Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend.  I will love you always.
 Nina
 




RE: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread Chris
I'm so sorry about Caesar.  But you know, he knew you were there when he
needed you most of all.  You saved him from such a terrible death and this
alone is something you should feel good about.  He knew that you'd always
have a little piece of your heart saved just for him and he knew to claim it
when he needed it.

Chris
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 3:30 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Paul Hendel
Subject: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

Hello my beloved group,
I just got the call from the vet.  Ceasar had deep puncture wounds that 
were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and the 
most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was 
limping.  He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was felv+.  
They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why there was 
blood in his saliva.  The vet, who is always reluctant to recommend 
euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up from 
the kind of pain he must have been living with.  I still hesitated, I 
still thought maybe there was a way.  I asked if there could be any 
doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no.  Before we 
left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of the 
trap.  His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty feel 
that comes from flea infestation.  Poor little lamb!  He was angry, but 
he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss.  I spoke softly to him and 
told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home.  I had so 
prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security this 
afternoon.  I had to finally decide to let him go.   I'm so sick about 
not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be 
healthy today.  I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is that 
he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no longer 
producing felv kittens.  He lived the hard life of a cat on the street 
and I helped him as best I could.  Thank you all for caring about a 
special little feral boy and understanding how he has left an imprint on 
my heart.
Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend.  I will love you always.
Nina







Re: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread etrent

Oh Nina I am so sorry. 
-Original Message-From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; Paul Hendel [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:29:50 -0700Subject: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)


Hello my beloved group,I just got the call from the vet. Ceasar had deep puncture wounds that were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and the most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was limping. He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was felv+. They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why there was blood in his saliva. The vet, who is always reluctant to recommend euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up from the kind of pain he must have been living with. I still hesitated, I still thought maybe there was a way. I asked if there could be any doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no. Before we left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of the trap. His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty feel that comes from flea infestation. Poor little lamb! He was angry, but he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss. I spoke softly to him and told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home. I had so prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security this afternoon. I had to finally decide to let him go. I'm so sick about not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be healthy today. I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is that he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no longer producing felv kittens. He lived the hard life of a cat on the street and I helped him as best I could. Thank you all for caring about a special little feral boy and understanding how he has left an imprint on my heart.Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend. I will love you always.Nina

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Re: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Nina you did the best that you could for the sweet guy.My thoughts are with you,and he is now in peace with no pain.Take care  SherryNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello my beloved group,I just got the call from the vet. Ceasar had deep puncture wounds that were abscessed all over his body, the deepest around his neck and the most infected on his rear leg, no wonder my brave little man was limping. He had a high fever and the worst news of all, he was felv+. They hadn't yet investigated why his nose was bleeding, or why there was blood in his saliva. The vet, who is always reluctant to recommend euthanasia, said if she were Ceasar she wouldn't want to wake up from the kind of pain he must have been living with. I still hesitated, I still thought maybe there was a way. I asked if there
 could be any doubt about his status, the answer was an unequivocal no. Before we left for the vet, he allowed me to stroke him through the grate of the trap. His skin was covered with small lesions, with that gritty feel that comes from flea infestation. Poor little lamb! He was angry, but he didn't try to scratch me, or even hiss. I spoke softly to him and told him how much he was loved and that he was finally home. I had so prayed that I would be bringing him back to comfort and security this afternoon. I had to finally decide to let him go. I'm so sick about not being able to trap him when I first met him, maybe he would be healthy today. I feel like I failed him, my only consolation is that he's no longer suffering, he's no longer confined, and he's no longer producing felv kittens. He lived the hard life of a cat on the street and I helped him as best I could. Thank you all for caring about a special little feral
 boy and understanding how he has left an imprint on my heart.Bless you my sweet, brave, clever friend. I will love you always.Nina 
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New Kitty

2006-07-07 Thread Julia Hagstrom

Hi, Everyone :)

Well, I've just gotten a new kitty; his name is Noni (as in no knees), 
but to me, he's Sweet William.  He's very affectionate, and very fat, 
lol.  :)  I'm going to change the food they had him on as soon as I 
can, but want to give him time to settle in first.  He is unneutered, 
and I'll take care of that next week, and have him tested for FelV.  
Since Samantha got sick so suddenly, I want to make sure that he's ok.  
:)  His owner had to give him up because her step-mom has MS, and 
wouldn't have been able to care for him much longer, so I took him.  He 
seems to be adapting very well.  :)  He's finally figured out that I 
won't eat or hurt him :)  He's starting to relax, now.  I just got him 
today.  :)  Any advice???


Julia




RE: FeLV vaccination of recovered cat?

2006-07-07 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
I personally strongly recommend that you DO not vaccinate your kitties
with feLK vaccinations.  My holistic vet tells me, and I agree, the
vaccination will suppress their immune system significantly (even if
temporarily) and sometimes, when they get vaccinations, it cause the
very illness that they are trying to prevent due to the stressed caused
by vaccinations.  Since she was already exposed to the virus, she had
built immune to the virus in the body..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jen Reinke
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: FeLV vaccination of recovered cat?

Hello,

My parent's cat tested positive for FeLV as a young kitten- she was a 
stray and we assume that she was infected by her mother. Six months 
later she was tested again and was negative. We were told that it was 
possible that she either fought it off, or that the antibodies in her 
system were actually her mother's and that she never really contracted 
the disease. She is now due to have a vaccination for FeLV, but we are 
concerned that this will have negative effects, given her history, or 
that she does not need it as she should have antibodies already in her 
system. Is there any information about how such a situation should be 
handled?

Thanks for any info or leads on the subject!
Jen







Whiskey

2006-07-07 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Hi all,could we add sweet little gray Whiskey to the CLS? Her liver failed.I didn't really know her all to well,but I had talked to her and pet her each time I was at Crash's.  Thank you,  Sherry 
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Re: FeLV vaccination of recovered cat?

2006-07-07 Thread Sheila Coyle
I am interested inn following this thread.thank you for your insight.

Sheila
Nebraska
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Subject: FeLV vaccination of recovered cat?


 Hello,
 
 My parent's cat tested positive for FeLV as a young kitten- she was a 
 stray and we assume that she was infected by her mother. Six months 
 later she was tested again and was negative. 




Re: this groups is so much nicer than other groups!

2006-07-07 Thread Lernermichelle




i/d gives Lucy diarrhea. It's actually what made her really bad 
last week. Her stools were really soft and she would not eat, so I gave 
her some i/d because she likes it and then she had liquid diarrhea. It's 
what the vet had prescribed for her at first.
Michelle

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What 
  about I/D for the IBD?




Re: Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread Lernermichelle



God, Nina, I am so incredibly sorry.
Michelle


Ceasar is no longer in pain (please add him to the CLS)

2006-07-07 Thread Nina
Thank you all so much for your kind thoughts and words.  Knowing there 
were so many that mourned Ceasar along with me helped so much.  I've 
been so blessed in being able to help many of my fur friends recover 
from what seemed like insurmountable odds that having to make the final 
decision over the phone, without looking in his eyes to know for sure, 
was so very difficult.  It was even harder because of my strong feeling 
that felv should not be considered a death sentence.  Unfortunately, in 
the case of a truly feral fellow like Ceasar, it became the deciding 
factor.  Last night when I captured him, I assured him that when he 
recovered, it would be his choice to stay under my protection, or return 
to the wild.  Because of the felv, that choice no longer existed.  This 
was just crushing to me.  I often tell myself that the fate of my wild 
friends is even less in my control than those that are able to accept my 
interventions. Being forewarned never seems to ease the pain of reality, 
or ease the despair of loss.

Thank you for caring,
Nina