Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious
Prayers for Lucy. I hope she's feeling better by the time I catch up on my email. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The oncologist and internist can not figure out what is wrong with her. The things that can cause abdominal fluids are lymphoma, FIP, a ruptured intestine, pancreatitis, and other infection. She has some symptoms of each, but not enough of any of them to make it seem like the diagnosis. They did ultrasound and biopsy, looked at the fluid again, and could not come up with anything. They sent out cytology of fluid and biopsy of lymph nodes and sent us home with her. Upon getting home, she looks much worse. She does not want to eat except for a few pieces of EVo dry food, and I am afraid to give her more of it due to her IBD. She is kind of hunched up and looks nauseous and out of it. She lets me pet her and purrs, but really looks awful. She did not look this way before I took her to the hospital, or even while so feverish last night. The oncologist had said that if her clinical signs get worse, e.g. she stops eating, to bring her back and admit her for more tests. I am so loathe to do that, especially today right from getting home. I am going to give her a few hours and see if she gets any better. I would feel better if she would just curl up and sleep, but she doesn't. I offered her her turkey and she looked like she was going to be sick from smelling it. She was also a little wobbly coming up the stairs. We thought maybe they had tranquilized her to get the biopsy but they said no. She has not really eaten now since last night (I withheld food this morning so don't know if she would have eaten or not). Any thoughts appreciated, and prayers definitely appreciated. Very exhausted and worried and sad here. Michelle
Re: FeLV
Thank you for your suggestions. I am on my way to trying to get one of the drugs you mentioned. Mylo has an appointment with a specialist on Saturday, that deals with chronic and severe illnesses so hopefully he can perscribe me something that can help Mylo. As for vitamins...I'm not sure where to get that for cats, or even what kind of vitamins he needs. I will ask the specialist when I see him. You mentioned some products but I'm not sure where to get them. I'm in Toronto, Canada so I don't know if they are available here. I will definitely check for them. I hope to get Mylo on some medication and vitamins that can help him. I will find out after the vet appt. on Saturday. Chris From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:24:58 -0500 I 100% believe that the FELINE Interferon OMEGA is helpful for FELV, but it's not available in the USA through regular channels at this time. Your vet can request it directly from the manufacturer though... others here that have done it can give you more info. That being said, while there's no scientific proof that it helps, many people give low dose ORAL Interferon ALPHA (human interferon) to their FELV+ cats (and it certainly can't hurt, studies are being done now, and we should have scientific proof of it's results by next year). Lots of members here have had success with Immuno-Regulin, and it's certainly a good place to start for a ill symptomatic cat. I would try to get the feline interferon omega as well (I can send you the studies to print off to take to your vet if he needs to be convinced). Now, all that aside... the very best thing you can do is feed good food, and enough of it. That sometimes means you may have to syringe food into your cat's mouth (force feeding, as it may be). OR, you can have a feeding tube inserted by your vet. You really must get the diarrhea under control! Have you tried supplementing with canned pumpkin (NOT the pie filling, the PLAIN pumpkin)? Add fiber any way you can! Missing Link is a good supplement that is also high in fiber, or add some ground psyllium to her food. Good nutrition is the BEST thing you can do on your own for her! Good food brands include Wellness, Innova, California Natural, and Chicken Soup for the Cat. For a cat with diarrhea, I'd recommend the canned California Natural in the Chicken and Rice flavor, as it's a very bland food, and wont add to her digestive upsets! You can order all of those brands ONLINE if you can't find a local source. Watch her electrolyte levels, with that prolonged of a diarrhea, it can be dangerous due to dehydration. She also might need a blood transfusion if her anemia is severe. Don't let your vet tell you there's nothing he can do, blood transfusions are not that difficult! The hardest part might be finding a donor cat and blood typing, but your vet should KNOW all about that... if he doesn't... find a BETTER VET! I honestly think he should have mentioned it as an option already, IMO! I hate vets that say sorry, nothing I can do when they CAN do something, they just refuse to TRY. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html _ http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionid=b2456790-90e6-4d28-9219-5d7207d94d45mkt=en-ca
Re: FeLV
Chris, I am so glad you are going to see a specialist. Prayers for you and little Mylo - I hope so much this doctor will be able to help him. elizabeth On 1/25/07, Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your suggestions. I am on my way to trying to get one of the drugs you mentioned. Mylo has an appointment with a specialist on Saturday, that deals with chronic and severe illnesses so hopefully he can perscribe me something that can help Mylo. As for vitamins...I'm not sure where to get that for cats, or even what kind of vitamins he needs. I will ask the specialist when I see him. You mentioned some products but I'm not sure where to get them. I'm in Toronto, Canada so I don't know if they are available here. I will definitely check for them. I hope to get Mylo on some medication and vitamins that can help him. I will find out after the vet appt. on Saturday. Chris From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:24:58 -0500 I 100% believe that the FELINE Interferon OMEGA is helpful for FELV, but it's not available in the USA through regular channels at this time. Your vet can request it directly from the manufacturer though... others here that have done it can give you more info. That being said, while there's no scientific proof that it helps, many people give low dose ORAL Interferon ALPHA (human interferon) to their FELV+ cats (and it certainly can't hurt, studies are being done now, and we should have scientific proof of it's results by next year). Lots of members here have had success with Immuno-Regulin, and it's certainly a good place to start for a ill symptomatic cat. I would try to get the feline interferon omega as well (I can send you the studies to print off to take to your vet if he needs to be convinced). Now, all that aside... the very best thing you can do is feed good food, and enough of it. That sometimes means you may have to syringe food into your cat's mouth (force feeding, as it may be). OR, you can have a feeding tube inserted by your vet. You really must get the diarrhea under control! Have you tried supplementing with canned pumpkin (NOT the pie filling, the PLAIN pumpkin)? Add fiber any way you can! Missing Link is a good supplement that is also high in fiber, or add some ground psyllium to her food. Good nutrition is the BEST thing you can do on your own for her! Good food brands include Wellness, Innova, California Natural, and Chicken Soup for the Cat. For a cat with diarrhea, I'd recommend the canned California Natural in the Chicken and Rice flavor, as it's a very bland food, and wont add to her digestive upsets! You can order all of those brands ONLINE if you can't find a local source. Watch her electrolyte levels, with that prolonged of a diarrhea, it can be dangerous due to dehydration. She also might need a blood transfusion if her anemia is severe. Don't let your vet tell you there's nothing he can do, blood transfusions are not that difficult! The hardest part might be finding a donor cat and blood typing, but your vet should KNOW all about that... if he doesn't... find a BETTER VET! I honestly think he should have mentioned it as an option already, IMO! I hate vets that say sorry, nothing I can do when they CAN do something, they just refuse to TRY. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html _ http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionid=b2456790-90e6-4d28-9219-5d7207d94d45mkt=en-ca
Re: FeLV
Chris, I'm so glad you've found another vet that might be able to help you and Mylo. What kind of specialist is he? How is Mylo doing today? I wish you didn't have to wait until Saturday. Please keep us posted. Sending healing vibes and calming thoughts, Nina Chris Ramzy wrote: Thank you for your suggestions. I am on my way to trying to get one of the drugs you mentioned. Mylo has an appointment with a specialist on Saturday, that deals with chronic and severe illnesses so hopefully he can perscribe me something that can help Mylo. As for vitamins...I'm not sure where to get that for cats, or even what kind of vitamins he needs. I will ask the specialist when I see him. You mentioned some products but I'm not sure where to get them. I'm in Toronto, Canada so I don't know if they are available here. I will definitely check for them. I hope to get Mylo on some medication and vitamins that can help him. I will find out after the vet appt. on Saturday. Chris
Re: FeLV
Canada is pretty good about getting just about anything you can get in the USA. The Feline Interferon Omega wont be easy to get for you... others here can send you the paperwork involved to import it to the USA, you could call what-ever the Canada office over drugs is, and ask them if it's possible to get it in Canada (it might have not ever been attempted, it could be really easy.. or it could be impossible, you'd have to try and see). I think a blood transfusion is the first thing you need to get for him though. Oh, and sorry I called him her in my last email... my mistake! I hope he is doing OK tonight, and gets all the help he needs at the specialist Saturday! Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html
Re: FeLV
I have the blood test results with me but I can't find anything saying HCT. Is there another word for that...what does it stand for? From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:20:02 -0800 I think he meant the RBC not HCT, still pretty bad, do you know what the HCT is Chris?? low red blood cell count (4); -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com _ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://discoverspaces.live.com/?loc=en-CA
Re: FeLV
Where can I get Metamucil/psyllium from? Mylo has been eating Medi-Cal hypoallergenic gastro for over a week now because of his diarrhea and internal problems. He has had the diarrhea since Christmas time. He has had to get IV fluids and injections a few times as well. From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:53:09 -0600 Everyone on this list is more familiar with FeLV than I am. However, diarrhea can have numerous causes including food allergies (I am very familiar with that from the Royal Princess Kitty Katt) and, despite what many vets believe, they can be developed at any age. Kitty was almost 13 when we started having food allergy problems. If you have not tried adding Metamucil/psyllium (bad spelling) to Mylo's food you should consider it. You may want to consult an alternative vet too. Dixie Louise sees her regular vets and an alternative vet. Good luck. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:04 PM Subject: Re: FeLV Thanks for your email. My vet did 3 sets of blood work in the last two weeks. Mylo has a high white blood cell count (38) a low red blood cell count (4); he has FeLV and anemia. The vet didn't say what the underlying sickness could be. He just said that Mylo tested positive for FeLV and there is nothing we can do. I am currently trying to see another vet on Mylo's condition. I don't know what's causing Mylo's diarrhea but he has had it for weeks now. He is taking flagyl but it isn't helping. I left a message for my new vet to call me tomorrow so I hope to get some more info. From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:14:21 -0800 Chris, Sorry you are having these problems, my first concerns are your vet, what did he do to find out what is wrong with your Mylo?? If nothing then if I were you I'd run, not walk to a different vet!!! What did your vet say is wrong with Mylo other than being positive?? FeLV is a virus that compromises the immune system which in turn allows other illnesses to take hold and flourish, it in itself is not what makes cats sick, the other illnesses that can take hold are. Did your vet even test for anything, do any blood work, give you anything for the diarrhea, find out whats causing the diarrhea?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com _ Buy, Load, Play. The new Sympatico / MSN Music Store works seamlessly with Windows Media Player. Just Click PLAY. http://musicstore.sympatico.msn.ca/content/viewer.aspx?cid=SMS_Sept192006 _ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://discoverspaces.live.com/?loc=en-CA
Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious
Thinking of you and Lucyand hoping for the best. From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:38:54 -0800 (PST) Prayers for Lucy. I hope she's feeling better by the time I catch up on my email. t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The oncologist and internist can not figure out what is wrong with her. The things that can cause abdominal fluids are lymphoma, FIP, a ruptured intestine, pancreatitis, and other infection. She has some symptoms of each, but not enough of any of them to make it seem like the diagnosis. They did ultrasound and biopsy, looked at the fluid again, and could not come up with anything. They sent out cytology of fluid and biopsy of lymph nodes and sent us home with her. Upon getting home, she looks much worse. She does not want to eat except for a few pieces of EVo dry food, and I am afraid to give her more of it due to her IBD. She is kind of hunched up and looks nauseous and out of it. She lets me pet her and purrs, but really looks awful. She did not look this way before I took her to the hospital, or even while so feverish last night. The oncologist had said that if her clinical signs get worse, e.g. she stops eating, to bring her back and admit her for more tests. I am so loathe to do that, especially today right from getting home. I am going to give her a few hours and see if she gets any better. I would feel better if she would just curl up and sleep, but she doesn't. I offered her her turkey and she looked like she was going to be sick from smelling it. She was also a little wobbly coming up the stairs. We thought maybe they had tranquilized her to get the biopsy but they said no. She has not really eaten now since last night (I withheld food this morning so don't know if she would have eaten or not). Any thoughts appreciated, and prayers definitely appreciated. Very exhausted and worried and sad here. Michelle _ Free Alerts : Be smart - let your information find you ! http://alerts.live.com/Alerts/Default.aspx
Re: FeLV
Thank you Elizabeth. Will give an update after the appointment on Saturday. I can't wait and I hope to get some help for Mylo. From: elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:30:56 -0600 Chris, I am so glad you are going to see a specialist. Prayers for you and little Mylo - I hope so much this doctor will be able to help him. elizabeth On 1/25/07, Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your suggestions. I am on my way to trying to get one of the drugs you mentioned. Mylo has an appointment with a specialist on Saturday, that deals with chronic and severe illnesses so hopefully he can perscribe me something that can help Mylo. As for vitamins...I'm not sure where to get that for cats, or even what kind of vitamins he needs. I will ask the specialist when I see him. You mentioned some products but I'm not sure where to get them. I'm in Toronto, Canada so I don't know if they are available here. I will definitely check for them. I hope to get Mylo on some medication and vitamins that can help him. I will find out after the vet appt. on Saturday. Chris From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:24:58 -0500 I 100% believe that the FELINE Interferon OMEGA is helpful for FELV, but it's not available in the USA through regular channels at this time. Your vet can request it directly from the manufacturer though... others here that have done it can give you more info. That being said, while there's no scientific proof that it helps, many people give low dose ORAL Interferon ALPHA (human interferon) to their FELV+ cats (and it certainly can't hurt, studies are being done now, and we should have scientific proof of it's results by next year). Lots of members here have had success with Immuno-Regulin, and it's certainly a good place to start for a ill symptomatic cat. I would try to get the feline interferon omega as well (I can send you the studies to print off to take to your vet if he needs to be convinced). Now, all that aside... the very best thing you can do is feed good food, and enough of it. That sometimes means you may have to syringe food into your cat's mouth (force feeding, as it may be). OR, you can have a feeding tube inserted by your vet. You really must get the diarrhea under control! Have you tried supplementing with canned pumpkin (NOT the pie filling, the PLAIN pumpkin)? Add fiber any way you can! Missing Link is a good supplement that is also high in fiber, or add some ground psyllium to her food. Good nutrition is the BEST thing you can do on your own for her! Good food brands include Wellness, Innova, California Natural, and Chicken Soup for the Cat. For a cat with diarrhea, I'd recommend the canned California Natural in the Chicken and Rice flavor, as it's a very bland food, and wont add to her digestive upsets! You can order all of those brands ONLINE if you can't find a local source. Watch her electrolyte levels, with that prolonged of a diarrhea, it can be dangerous due to dehydration. She also might need a blood transfusion if her anemia is severe. Don't let your vet tell you there's nothing he can do, blood transfusions are not that difficult! The hardest part might be finding a donor cat and blood typing, but your vet should KNOW all about that... if he doesn't... find a BETTER VET! I honestly think he should have mentioned it as an option already, IMO! I hate vets that say sorry, nothing I can do when they CAN do something, they just refuse to TRY. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html _ http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionid=b2456790-90e6-4d28-9219-5d7207d94d45mkt=en-ca _ Buy what you want when you want it on Sympatico / MSN Shopping http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/content/shp/?ctId=2,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081805
Re: FeLV
You are going to love this--Metamucil/psyllium is normally available in the laxative area of any grocery/Wal-Mart etc or in health food stores (my preference). You use just a pinch of the unflavored Metamucil in the food with each feeding. A little more is not going to hurt anything. As all my vets say, it is not scientific but it works. And it has worked for me with several animals, both cats and dogs, with various problems. Others on the list use it too. Apple pectin is another product that works the same way. Please add probiotics (good bacteria) to the food or put it in his mouth--Probiacin is available at vets here but you can get ones that work at health food stores, better groceries and drug stores. With the meds he has had he was to be unbalanced and that may be contributing to the problems. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: Re: FeLV Where can I get Metamucil/psyllium from? Mylo has been eating Medi-Cal hypoallergenic gastro for over a week now because of his diarrhea and internal problems. He has had the diarrhea since Christmas time. He has had to get IV fluids and injections a few times as well. From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:53:09 -0600 Everyone on this list is more familiar with FeLV than I am. However, diarrhea can have numerous causes including food allergies (I am very familiar with that from the Royal Princess Kitty Katt) and, despite what many vets believe, they can be developed at any age. Kitty was almost 13 when we started having food allergy problems. If you have not tried adding Metamucil/psyllium (bad spelling) to Mylo's food you should consider it. You may want to consult an alternative vet too. Dixie Louise sees her regular vets and an alternative vet. Good luck. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:04 PM Subject: Re: FeLV Thanks for your email. My vet did 3 sets of blood work in the last two weeks. Mylo has a high white blood cell count (38) a low red blood cell count (4); he has FeLV and anemia. The vet didn't say what the underlying sickness could be. He just said that Mylo tested positive for FeLV and there is nothing we can do. I am currently trying to see another vet on Mylo's condition. I don't know what's causing Mylo's diarrhea but he has had it for weeks now. He is taking flagyl but it isn't helping. I left a message for my new vet to call me tomorrow so I hope to get some more info. From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:14:21 -0800 Chris, Sorry you are having these problems, my first concerns are your vet, what did he do to find out what is wrong with your Mylo?? If nothing then if I were you I'd run, not walk to a different vet!!! What did your vet say is wrong with Mylo other than being positive?? FeLV is a virus that compromises the immune system which in turn allows other illnesses to take hold and flourish, it in itself is not what makes cats sick, the other illnesses that can take hold are. Did your vet even test for anything, do any blood work, give you anything for the diarrhea, find out whats causing the diarrhea?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com _ Buy, Load, Play. The new Sympatico / MSN Music Store works seamlessly with Windows Media Player. Just Click PLAY. http://musicstore.sympatico.msn.ca/content/viewer.aspx?cid=SMS_Sept192006
Re: FeLV
At 06:13 PM 1/25/2007, you wrote: It might say PCV packed cell volume or hematocrit Kelly I have the blood test results with me but I can't find anything saying HCT. Is there another word for that...what does it stand for? From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:20:02 -0800 I think he meant the RBC not HCT, still pretty bad, do you know what the HCT is Chris?? low red blood cell count (4); -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com _ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://discoverspaces.live.com/?loc=en-CA -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.11/652 - Release Date: 1/25/2007
Re: FeLV
Hi Nina, he's a certified internist...if that makes sense. I'm just learning about these things. Mylo seems the same but eating a little less than yesterday. He is out of the room he usually likes to hang out in and that's a good thing. Thank you for your good wishes. From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:59:05 -0800 Chris, I'm so glad you've found another vet that might be able to help you and Mylo. What kind of specialist is he? How is Mylo doing today? I wish you didn't have to wait until Saturday. Please keep us posted. Sending healing vibes and calming thoughts, Nina Chris Ramzy wrote: Thank you for your suggestions. I am on my way to trying to get one of the drugs you mentioned. Mylo has an appointment with a specialist on Saturday, that deals with chronic and severe illnesses so hopefully he can perscribe me something that can help Mylo. As for vitamins...I'm not sure where to get that for cats, or even what kind of vitamins he needs. I will ask the specialist when I see him. You mentioned some products but I'm not sure where to get them. I'm in Toronto, Canada so I don't know if they are available here. I will definitely check for them. I hope to get Mylo on some medication and vitamins that can help him. I will find out after the vet appt. on Saturday. Chris _ http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionid=b2456790-90e6-4d28-9219-5d7207d94d45mkt=en-ca
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Chris, Psyllium flakes should be available at a health food store. I've not been following the threads very carefully, so someone might have already mentioned these supplements. My FeLV+ girl seems to be seeing some benefits from Liquid DMG and Transfer Factor. I would think that both are fairly easy to obtain in Canada. Prayers for Mylo. Lance On Jan 25, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Chris Ramzy wrote: Where can I get Metamucil/psyllium from? Mylo has been eating Medi- Cal hypoallergenic gastro for over a week now because of his diarrhea and internal problems. He has had the diarrhea since Christmas time. He has had to get IV fluids and injections a few times as well. From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:53:09 -0600 Everyone on this list is more familiar with FeLV than I am. However, diarrhea can have numerous causes including food allergies (I am very familiar with that from the Royal Princess Kitty Katt) and, despite what many vets believe, they can be developed at any age. Kitty was almost 13 when we started having food allergy problems. If you have not tried adding Metamucil/ psyllium (bad spelling) to Mylo's food you should consider it. You may want to consult an alternative vet too. Dixie Louise sees her regular vets and an alternative vet. Good luck. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:04 PM Subject: Re: FeLV Thanks for your email. My vet did 3 sets of blood work in the last two weeks. Mylo has a high white blood cell count (38) a low red blood cell count (4); he has FeLV and anemia. The vet didn't say what the underlying sickness could be. He just said that Mylo tested positive for FeLV and there is nothing we can do. I am currently trying to see another vet on Mylo's condition. I don't know what's causing Mylo's diarrhea but he has had it for weeks now. He is taking flagyl but it isn't helping. I left a message for my new vet to call me tomorrow so I hope to get some more info. From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:14:21 -0800 Chris, Sorry you are having these problems, my first concerns are your vet, what did he do to find out what is wrong with your Mylo?? If nothing then if I were you I'd run, not walk to a different vet!!! What did your vet say is wrong with Mylo other than being positive?? FeLV is a virus that compromises the immune system which in turn allows other illnesses to take hold and flourish, it in itself is not what makes cats sick, the other illnesses that can take hold are. Did your vet even test for anything, do any blood work, give you anything for the diarrhea, find out whats causing the diarrhea?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com _ Buy, Load, Play. The new Sympatico / MSN Music Store works seamlessly with Windows Media Player. Just Click PLAY. http:// musicstore.sympatico.msn.ca/content/viewer.aspx?cid=SMS_Sept192006 _ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://discoverspaces.live.com/?loc=en-CA
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Hematocrit level is 23. Do you know what that means? From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:35:16 -0800 At 06:13 PM 1/25/2007, you wrote: It might say PCV packed cell volume or hematocrit Kelly I have the blood test results with me but I can't find anything saying HCT. Is there another word for that...what does it stand for? From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:20:02 -0800 I think he meant the RBC not HCT, still pretty bad, do you know what the HCT is Chris?? low red blood cell count (4); -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com _ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://discoverspaces.live.com/?loc=en-CA -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.11/652 - Release Date: 1/25/2007 _ Buy, Load, Play. The new Sympatico / MSN Music Store works seamlessly with Windows Media Player. Just Click PLAY. http://musicstore.sympatico.msn.ca/content/viewer.aspx?cid=SMS_Sept192006
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Thank you, will look into the psyllium. From: Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:36:30 -0600 Chris, Psyllium flakes should be available at a health food store. I've not been following the threads very carefully, so someone might have already mentioned these supplements. My FeLV+ girl seems to be seeing some benefits from Liquid DMG and Transfer Factor. I would think that both are fairly easy to obtain in Canada. Prayers for Mylo. Lance On Jan 25, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Chris Ramzy wrote: Where can I get Metamucil/psyllium from? Mylo has been eating Medi- Cal hypoallergenic gastro for over a week now because of his diarrhea and internal problems. He has had the diarrhea since Christmas time. He has had to get IV fluids and injections a few times as well. From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:53:09 -0600 Everyone on this list is more familiar with FeLV than I am. However, diarrhea can have numerous causes including food allergies (I am very familiar with that from the Royal Princess Kitty Katt) and, despite what many vets believe, they can be developed at any age. Kitty was almost 13 when we started having food allergy problems. If you have not tried adding Metamucil/ psyllium (bad spelling) to Mylo's food you should consider it. You may want to consult an alternative vet too. Dixie Louise sees her regular vets and an alternative vet. Good luck. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:04 PM Subject: Re: FeLV Thanks for your email. My vet did 3 sets of blood work in the last two weeks. Mylo has a high white blood cell count (38) a low red blood cell count (4); he has FeLV and anemia. The vet didn't say what the underlying sickness could be. He just said that Mylo tested positive for FeLV and there is nothing we can do. I am currently trying to see another vet on Mylo's condition. I don't know what's causing Mylo's diarrhea but he has had it for weeks now. He is taking flagyl but it isn't helping. I left a message for my new vet to call me tomorrow so I hope to get some more info. From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:14:21 -0800 Chris, Sorry you are having these problems, my first concerns are your vet, what did he do to find out what is wrong with your Mylo?? If nothing then if I were you I'd run, not walk to a different vet!!! What did your vet say is wrong with Mylo other than being positive?? FeLV is a virus that compromises the immune system which in turn allows other illnesses to take hold and flourish, it in itself is not what makes cats sick, the other illnesses that can take hold are. Did your vet even test for anything, do any blood work, give you anything for the diarrhea, find out whats causing the diarrhea?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com _ Buy, Load, Play. The new Sympatico / MSN Music Store works seamlessly with Windows Media Player. Just Click PLAY. http:// musicstore.sympatico.msn.ca/content/viewer.aspx?cid=SMS_Sept192006 _ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://discoverspaces.live.com/?loc=en-CA _ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://discoverspaces.live.com/?loc=en-CA
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At 06:42 PM 1/25/2007, you wrote: Not too bad!!! Hematocrit level is 23. Do you know what that means? From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:35:16 -0800 At 06:13 PM 1/25/2007, you wrote: It might say PCV packed cell volume or hematocrit Kelly I have the blood test results with me but I can't find anything saying HCT. Is there another word for that...what does it stand for? From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:20:02 -0800 I think he meant the RBC not HCT, still pretty bad, do you know what the HCT is Chris?? low red blood cell count (4); -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com _ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://discoverspaces.live.com/?loc=en-CA -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.11/652 - Release Date: 1/25/2007 _ Buy, Load, Play. The new Sympatico / MSN Music Store works seamlessly with Windows Media Player. Just Click PLAY. http://musicstore.sympatico.msn.ca/content/viewer.aspx?cid=SMS_Sept192006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.11/652 - Release Date: 1/25/2007
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Metamucil is available here over the counter, it's a fiber supplement for humans. If you go with that, look for the unflavored kind. Psyllium husk is a powder that you can find at the health food store. Neither of these things helped my Gypsy with her diarrhea, switching her to a raw diet did and keeping her on a homemade cooked turkey diet has helped her stay fairly normal. I add pumpkin, bone meal and pure rice bran to her home made diet. Let me know if you'd like me to send you the recipe. It's a major pain in the neck to prepare, but it's worked wonders for Gyps. Since we don't know what's causing Mylo's diarrhea, it's hard to know what diet would be best for him, (or what supps would help him the most). When Gypsy was at her worst, feeding her plain, raw, minced chicken breast helped. When I started adding bone meal, it really firmed things up. I don't know if adding the bone meal did anything to improve the underlying condition, but it did stop the leakage problem. Nina Chris Ramzy wrote: Where can I get Metamucil/psyllium from? Mylo has been eating Medi-Cal hypoallergenic gastro for over a week now because of his diarrhea and internal problems. He has had the diarrhea since Christmas time. He has had to get IV fluids and injections a few times as well. From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:53:09 -0600 Everyone on this list is more familiar with FeLV than I am. However, diarrhea can have numerous causes including food allergies (I am very familiar with that from the Royal Princess Kitty Katt) and, despite what many vets believe, they can be developed at any age. Kitty was almost 13 when we started having food allergy problems. If you have not tried adding Metamucil/psyllium (bad spelling) to Mylo's food you should consider it. You may want to consult an alternative vet too. Dixie Louise sees her regular vets and an alternative vet. Good luck. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Chris Ramzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:04 PM Subject: Re: FeLV Thanks for your email. My vet did 3 sets of blood work in the last two weeks. Mylo has a high white blood cell count (38) a low red blood cell count (4); he has FeLV and anemia. The vet didn't say what the underlying sickness could be. He just said that Mylo tested positive for FeLV and there is nothing we can do. I am currently trying to see another vet on Mylo's condition. I don't know what's causing Mylo's diarrhea but he has had it for weeks now. He is taking flagyl but it isn't helping. I left a message for my new vet to call me tomorrow so I hope to get some more info. From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:14:21 -0800 Chris, Sorry you are having these problems, my first concerns are your vet, what did he do to find out what is wrong with your Mylo?? If nothing then if I were you I'd run, not walk to a different vet!!! What did your vet say is wrong with Mylo other than being positive?? FeLV is a virus that compromises the immune system which in turn allows other illnesses to take hold and flourish, it in itself is not what makes cats sick, the other illnesses that can take hold are. Did your vet even test for anything, do any blood work, give you anything for the diarrhea, find out whats causing the diarrhea?? -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com _ Buy, Load, Play. The new Sympatico / MSN Music Store works seamlessly with Windows Media Player. Just Click PLAY. http://musicstore.sympatico.msn.ca/content/viewer.aspx?cid=SMS_Sept192006 _ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://discoverspaces.live.com/?loc=en-CA
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Very good. Internists are human like anybody else, some are good and some are not so good, but this is exactly the type of specialist I'd be seeking out. I have a really good feeling about Mylo and the new doctor. So many prayers headed your way! Nina Chris Ramzy wrote: Hi Nina, he's a certified internist...if that makes sense. I'm just learning about these things. Mylo seems the same but eating a little less than yesterday. He is out of the room he usually likes to hang out in and that's a good thing. Thank you for your good wishes.
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You can usually get organic pure psyllium at most health food stores, you can get Metamucil at any drug store... but it's a certain type to give to cats, which I don't recall... maybe the powder? There's something in one form of it that's bad for cats. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Declawing Creates SUFFERING, Please don't declaw! http://www.pawproject.com/kona.html
