Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
This was suggested to get her to eat, as for fiber you could add a little peas or squash baby food to it, my kitties preferred the peas, not too much or you will take the meat flavor away. Maybe a 1/4 jar of peas to a jar of meat. On 5/8/2011 2:33 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote: And baby food, make sure no onion and supplement with taurine, most kitties love baby food. I use the beechnut meat flavors and gerber 2nd foods, they don't have anything but meat and water and a starch, no onion in them. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
And baby food, make sure no onion and supplement with taurine, most kitties love baby food. I use the beechnut meat flavors and gerber 2nd foods, they don't have anything but meat and water and a starch, no onion in them. On 5/8/2011 2:16 PM, Natalie wrote: Instead of an enema, which cats (nor we) really appreciate, why not try some fiber? Have you tried sardines, mackerel, Boston Market chicken (if there's one near you), smoked ham, thin slices of roast beef - all those things are great for fussy eating cats (one of those things might just be it). -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
KFC (minus the skin), the cheapest tuna (forget the good stuff, they don't like it), soupy stuff (even the healthy ferals seem to like the juice/liquid better than the meat alone). Hunter would eat raw hamburger with very hot water poured on it in small amounts just before he left this world. This gave a fatty liquid + meat similar to a just killed critter I guess. He drank it and enjoyed it when he enjoyed nothing else. Hunter was not FELV+ to the BOMK. The ferals like their mackerel mashed up with hot water too. The trick is to make it sort of stew like. How about some sort of laxative---hair ball gel Someone on the board will be better with this than I am. The ferals usually have the opposite issue. Bless you and hang in there. It really is worth it. On May 8, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Natalie wrote: Instead of an enema, which cats (nor we) really appreciate, why not try some fiber? Have you tried sardines, mackerel, Boston Market chicken (if there's one near you), smoked ham, thin slices of roast beef - all those things are great for fussy eating cats (one of those things might just be it). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 4:42 PM To: feline leukemia list; Landis McEntee Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne took BreAnne to vet yesterday. chem screen all within normal limits. on CBC: lymphocytes were high. vet said she definitely has leukemia. WBC were 13.2;HCT was 32%; HgB of 9.9; RBC's 6.5 - - all within normal range. platelets are low; neutrophils are low, and Ly (what is that) are high. he said her hydration was good. amoxicillin for 10 days and hope she pulls out of it. he said she had a lot of poop inside. sent me home with an enema. his diagnosis was alopecia and lymphadenopathy - - in her neck and behind her knees. and I know often the growths cannot be felt. you encouraged me to hang with her. continuing the supplements. she seems like a lost little soul; eats a few bites and then leaves or doesn't eat at all. will eat in privacy but very, very particular. took the other cats to the country and have taken her out there a couple days. she ran up a tree Friday morning. please hang with us. counsel? Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:54 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne CC: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able to find a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These will help identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we sometimes need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long runsince you find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done. As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be sure there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and boy seem to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some nutrition. Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had to do that with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a ragged coat, no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 weeks, she responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very hard. The vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. The heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself I was doing it for her benefit. If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a while and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure her that she is loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes then. These ae all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck! czadna sacarawicz wrote: BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats. Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur. there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look okay. this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2 originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat, said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the l
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
You can try some pumpkin mix..( Unspiced) Or mix a little mineral oil in their wet food. Both act like a laxative to cats!!! I had to do that with Blizzard once!! (ever seen a constipated 48lb Turkish Angora mix??? Not a pretty sight!) From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 5:16:41 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne Instead of an enema, which cats (nor we) really appreciate, why not try some fiber? Have you tried sardines, mackerel, Boston Market chicken (if there's one near you), smoked ham, thin slices of roast beef - all those things are great for fussy eating cats (one of those things might just be it). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 4:42 PM To: feline leukemia list; Landis McEntee Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne took BreAnne to vet yesterday. chem screen all within normal limits. on CBC: lymphocytes were high. vet said she definitely has leukemia. WBC were 13.2;HCT was 32%; HgB of 9.9; RBC's 6.5 - - all within normal range. platelets are low; neutrophils are low, and Ly (what is that) are high. he said her hydration was good. amoxicillin for 10 days and hope she pulls out of it. he said she had a lot of poop inside. sent me home with an enema. his diagnosis was alopecia and lymphadenopathy - - in her neck and behind her knees. and I know often the growths cannot be felt. you encouraged me to hang with her. continuing the supplements. she seems like a lost little soul; eats a few bites and then leaves or doesn't eat at all. will eat in privacy but very, very particular. took the other cats to the country and have taken her out there a couple days. she ran up a tree Friday morning. please hang with us. counsel? > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:54 -0500 > From: dlg...@windstream.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne > CC: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com > > Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able to find a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These will help identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we sometimes need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long runsince you find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done. > As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be sure there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and boy seem to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some nutrition. Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had to do that with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a ragged coat, no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 weeks, she responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very hard. The vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. The heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself I was doing it for her benefit. > If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a while and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure her that she is loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes then. These ae all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck! > czadna sacarawicz wrote: > > > > BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats. > > > > Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur. there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look okay. > > > > this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2 originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat, said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the long ride up). I have no explanation about why I didn't ask how high or about starting her on an antibiotic. We started everyone on Petzlife oral gel (thank you Natalie) a couple weeks ago. He said her mouth looked good. BreAnne has been losing weight, not eating well. I follow her around with the food and draw her attention to it. She won't eat anything containing the usual supplements we use. I have been hydrating some orally and giving some NutriCal. She has been
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
Instead of an enema, which cats (nor we) really appreciate, why not try some fiber? Have you tried sardines, mackerel, Boston Market chicken (if there's one near you), smoked ham, thin slices of roast beef - all those things are great for fussy eating cats (one of those things might just be it). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 4:42 PM To: feline leukemia list; Landis McEntee Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne took BreAnne to vet yesterday. chem screen all within normal limits. on CBC: lymphocytes were high. vet said she definitely has leukemia. WBC were 13.2;HCT was 32%; HgB of 9.9; RBC's 6.5 - - all within normal range. platelets are low; neutrophils are low, and Ly (what is that) are high. he said her hydration was good. amoxicillin for 10 days and hope she pulls out of it. he said she had a lot of poop inside. sent me home with an enema. his diagnosis was alopecia and lymphadenopathy - - in her neck and behind her knees. and I know often the growths cannot be felt. you encouraged me to hang with her. continuing the supplements. she seems like a lost little soul; eats a few bites and then leaves or doesn't eat at all. will eat in privacy but very, very particular. took the other cats to the country and have taken her out there a couple days. she ran up a tree Friday morning. please hang with us. counsel? > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:54 -0500 > From: dlg...@windstream.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne > CC: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com > > Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able to find a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These will help identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we sometimes need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long runsince you find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done. > As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be sure there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and boy seem to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some nutrition. Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had to do that with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a ragged coat, no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 weeks, she responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very hard. The vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. The heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself I was doing it for her benefit. > If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a while and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure her that she is loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes then. These ae all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck! > czadna sacarawicz wrote: > > > > BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats. > > > > Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur. there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look okay. > > > > this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2 originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat, said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the long ride up). I have no explanation about why I didn't ask how high or about starting her on an antibiotic. We started everyone on Petzlife oral gel (thank you Natalie) a couple weeks ago. He said her mouth looked good. BreAnne has been losing weight, not eating well. I follow her around with the food and draw her attention to it. She won't eat anything containing the usual supplements we use. I have been hydrating some orally and giving some NutriCal. She has been hanging out under the bathroom sink cabinet in the darkness. > > > > Easter Sunday I was able to be home all day and let Scrumptious out (since she is negative). > > > > I guess writing this is about getting ready maybe to let her go. The cat she is today in no way resembles her picture of 16 months ago. Stress for her? Her Grieving the loss of Isaac? She was really, really thin about 9 months ago but cam
[Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
took BreAnne to vet yesterday. chem screen all within normal limits. on CBC: lymphocytes were high. vet said she definitely has leukemia. WBC were 13.2;HCT was 32%; HgB of 9.9; RBC's 6.5 - - all within normal range. platelets are low; neutrophils are low, and Ly (what is that) are high. he said her hydration was good. amoxicillin for 10 days and hope she pulls out of it. he said she had a lot of poop inside. sent me home with an enema. his diagnosis was alopecia and lymphadenopathy - - in her neck and behind her knees. and I know often the growths cannot be felt. you encouraged me to hang with her. continuing the supplements. she seems like a lost little soul; eats a few bites and then leaves or doesn't eat at all. will eat in privacy but very, very particular. took the other cats to the country and have taken her out there a couple days. she ran up a tree Friday morning. please hang with us. counsel? > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:54 -0500 > From: dlg...@windstream.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne > CC: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com > > Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able to find a > clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These will help > identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we sometimes > need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long runsince you > find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done. > As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be sure > there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have > responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and boy seem > to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some nutrition. > Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had to do that > with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a ragged coat, > no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 weeks, she > responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very hard. The > vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. The > heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself I was > doing it for her benefit. > If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a while > and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure her that she is > loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes then. These ae > all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck! > czadna sacarawicz wrote: > > > > BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose > > who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac > > left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment > > from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac > > used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show > > little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats. > > > > Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad > > case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur. > > there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look > > okay. > > > > this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2 > > originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked > > the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat, > > said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the long ride > > up). I have no explanation about why I didn't ask how high or about > > starting her on an antibiotic. We started everyone on Petzlife oral gel > > (thank you Natalie) a couple weeks ago. He said her mouth looked good. > > BreAnne has been losing weight, not eating well. I follow her around with > > the food and draw her attention to it. She won't eat anything containing > > the usual supplements we use. I have been hydrating some orally and giving > > some NutriCal. She has been hanging out under the bathroom sink cabinet in > > the darkness. > > > > Easter Sunday I was able to be home all day and let Scrumptious out (since > > she is negative). > > > > I guess writing this is about getting ready maybe to let her go. The cat > > she is today in no way resembles her picture of 16 months ago. Stress for > > her? Her Grieving the loss of Isaac? She was really, really thin about 9 > > months ago but came back from it naturally. > > > > will leave it there. > > > > any comments will be appreciated > > > > czadna > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _
Re: [Felvtalk] Mach Catmacho Please add to the CLS :(
So sorry, Sherry. My heart breaks a little each time you lose another. Thank you for being sure they know love. Sara --Original Mail-- From: "Sherry DeHaan" To: "Felvtalk" Sent: Sat, 7 May 2011 17:33:43 -0700 PDT Subject: [Felvtalk] Mach Catmacho Please add to the CLS :( This sweet buff boy left us today,Dr. Jen said he had kidney cancer.Good boy,happy to of had the chance to love him. Sids kids are the best.. Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Got great news today
FANTASTIC NEWS! Must be a great Mother's Day for you! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Got great news today Yaaa!!! "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 20:00:01 -0500 > Subject: [Felvtalk] Got great news today > > Some of you already know my story. I fostered, then adopted a 3 mos old kitten from the Humane Society. He passed away this past March of FeLV. I have been worried sick about my other cat since he had not had the vaccine. He had his second ELISA test today and it was negative. My vet did agree with me from my research that normally a cat that has been exposed to FeLV will test positive 28 days after exposure. So far so good. I'm feeling more confident that he has cleared the virus since he is an adult cat (2 yrs old) and has always been healthy. > > I'm so glad to be a part of this group and have learned so much from many of you. > > Thanks for all your support! I'll still keep you posted and I wish the same outcome for all the kitties fighting this horrible disease!! > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Got great news today
Yaaa!!! “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > From: longhornf...@verizon.net > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 20:00:01 -0500 > Subject: [Felvtalk] Got great news today > > Some of you already know my story. I fostered, then adopted a 3 mos old > kitten from the Humane Society. He passed away this past March of FeLV. I > have been worried sick about my other cat since he had not had the vaccine. > He had his second ELISA test today and it was negative. My vet did agree with > me from my research that normally a cat that has been exposed to FeLV will > test positive 28 days after exposure. So far so good. I'm feeling more > confident that he has cleared the virus since he is an adult cat (2 yrs old) > and has always been healthy. > > I'm so glad to be a part of this group and have learned so much from many of > you. > > Thanks for all your support! I'll still keep you posted and I wish the same > outcome for all the kitties fighting this horrible disease!! > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
