Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious

2014-08-13 Thread dlgegg
THAT IS THE ONLY VACCINE I GET NOW AND I MAY STOP IT SINCE MY PRIDE DOES NOT 
GET INTO BITING FIGHTS, JUST SNARLING AND HISSING AND SWATTING.
 "Katherine K."  wrote: 
> Hi Maya,
> 
> I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out one was
> positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against FeLV.
> But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If you do
> decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is
> vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps.
> 
> However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You could
> alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to contact
> you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for FeLV or if
> they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue websites. We
> have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always dumping or
> rehoming their pets.
> 
> I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive cat.
> But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death row, and
> certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have done
> it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for
> Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! <3
> 
> Katherine
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio  wrote:
> 
> > So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in
> > command to our cat Yang who passed away.
> >
> > I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until
> > they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are really
> > sick).  She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing another
> > cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune compromised,
> > etc.  This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.
> >
> > I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and it is
> > passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased
> > contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running
> > the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from
> > it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test
> > negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for exposing
> > another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for
> > Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months
> > or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.
> >  ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down.
> >
> > What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] New & have question

2014-08-13 Thread dlgegg
i HAVE STARTED OIL PULLING FOR MYSELF WITH COCONUT OIL.  IT IS A GOOD 
ANTIBACTERIAL, ETC. AND MIGHT HELP YOUR CAT.  I USE A TABLESPOON EACH DAY,  IT 
TASTES GOOD AND MY HARLEY ALWAYS WANTS TO LICK MY FINGERS AFTERWARDS.  (I JUST 
SCOOP A FINGER FULL (ABOUT 1 TABLESPOON) AND PUT IT IN MY MOUTH.)
 Lance  wrote: 
> I don’t know of any supplements that are specifically geared toward oral 
> health. Someone else may have some helpful info. I know that CET makes pet 
> dental products, including a water additive. Googling for them should bring 
> up their site. I believe they’re owned by Virbac. 
> 
> After she tested positive, I gave my FeLV+ girl interferon alpha and DMG 
> (both are general immune system boosters) for most of her life. I often gave 
> her Prescription Diet t/d as a “treat”. We rarely had any gum or teeth 
> issues, though she did need several cleanings. The t/d would not be good for 
> a kitty already dealing with any mouth pain.
> 
> Best wishes for you and the calico kitten,
> 
> Lance
> 
> On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes  wrote:
> 
> > Hi everyone,
> > I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original test and 
> > this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+.  I have 7 other cats and have done 
> > rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs.  We are waiting on IFA results now.  I 
> > was reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote 
> > oral health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post.  Can 
> > someone help me with that info?  Am waiting on labs now to decide on course 
> > of treatment.  Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats. 
> > Thanks, Susan
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Re: [Felvtalk] fvrcp vaccines- yes or no?

2014-08-13 Thread Shelley Theye
Hi Lance,

I am not sure!  I will ask her.  She is pretty great.  Didn't even consider 
euth. when he tested positive.  Went ahead and neutered Leo and told me the 
news later that day.

I just keep thinking about what the folks on this list said last year when I 
asked, that their cats became sick after vaccinating.

Thanks for letting me know that Ember did OK without vaccines at the vet 
clinic.  I don't know if they make a purevax FVRCP.

We will do the Rabies, and vet said to wait at least 2 weeks between vaccines 
if do the FVRCP.  I thought that was good of her
to suggest too, because it is better not to do them all at once.  I never 
realized that until a few years ago.

I'll let you all know if I find out anything on this,  will probably just do 
the rabies though for now.

Shelley


On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Lance  wrote:

> I wish I had an answer for you. Would your vet be willing to log onto Vetinfo 
> to see what other vets are recommending for FeLV cats? I seem to recall that 
> Ember’s vet recommended that she be vaccinated, but we never did that. 
> Despite her low white count, she never picked anything up at the vet’s office 
> as far as I know. Even the dentals didn’t weaken her enough. 
> 
> If Purevax makes an FVRCP vaccine, that might be the better one to go with. 
> It is supposed to have less possibility of causing a fibrosarcoma (we used to 
> call them vax site sarcomas).
> 
> Also, you’re not overthinking this. You’re being a good and protective cat 
> parent. 
> 
> Best wishes for you and Leo,
> 
> Lance
> 
> On Aug 11, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Shelley Theye  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I asked last year when Leo was due for his yearly check-up, about how 
>> everyone feels about vaccinating
>> their Leukemia pos. cats in general.
>> 
>> The replies I received cautioned not to vaccinate for FVRCP, that is caused 
>> cats to become ill afterwards.
>> 
>> I have to get Leo vacc. for rabies since it is the law, will do the Purevax 
>> like I did last year, but he 
>> has only received one FVRCP vacc. back in summer 2012, when I first got him 
>> and he was neutered and 
>> I wasn't told about his FeLV status until afterwards.  At the time I thought 
>> he was a feral cat, he actually was, 
>> but has since become quite tame.  
>> 
>> Last year, in 2013, I opted not to do the FVRCP, because of the cautionary 
>> emails on the subject.
>> I guess my only worry is that he will be more susceptible in a vet clinic 
>> when he goes in for a check up for 
>> for treatment if he doesn't have that vaccine, so just would like to throw 
>> this out there again for thoughts on 
>> this subject.  Also, is there a certain type of FVRCP that might be less 
>> dangerous, etc?  
>> 
>> I have done some reading on Dr. Lisa Pierson's website, and sounds like he 
>> should maybe have at least 2 vaccines
>> as an adult and then can stop.  Am I overthinking this?
>> 
>> Thanks for any advice.  So far, knock on wood, he is doing great, though he 
>> is lonely, but I think since he was initially
>> semi-feral, the quiet lifestyle suits him.  we built him a nice mini 
>> screened porch/large window box which he really enjoys
>> and spend time with him daily.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Shelley
>> 
>> 
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