Re: [Felvtalk] Our cats

[Ardy Robertson]

We actually roamed the woods around our house until after 1 a.m. with
flashlights looking for Tigger when the door got left open once. We were
frantic and it was cold and snow on the ground etc. I had been all over the
house looking for him in case he had not gotten out but with the door
standing almost wide open I was sure he was outside. Finally about 3 a.m. on
about my fifth trip to the basement, I spotted him up on a shelf just lying
there quietly watching me and not reacting at all to my calls. Little turd!!
But I was very happy to have him safe!
Ardy


-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 5:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Our cats

Has anyone else had a day when you swore you were going to kill oe of them?
The last couple of weeks, Annie my 6lb, positive baby has developed an urge
to attack and kill all coons that come on our deck.  She normally will not
go outside because things, sonds frighten her, but lately she tries to get
out every time I open the door.  She got out this am and refused to come
when called.  She was out for at least 1 hour.  I called and called, came in
and called, maybe she came in on her own, went to the garage and got on my
hands and knees to make sure she was not under my van.  Finally came in and
said a prayer for her safety because I could not roam the woods looking for
her (recently broke an arm).  Came into my parents room to do some work,
just happened to glance at the flower shelves and there she was .  I called
her and she never answered!  Of course I did not kill her, I was too
glad to find her safe and sound!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

[Ardy Robertson]

Well I haven't worried about those things, but I do keep checking Topaz' pads 
of his feet to be sure they are bright pink. I could not go through that again 
- at least for a while. Either I have been very fortunate or FeLV is getting 
more rampant in our area because I have had numerous cats throughout my life 
and other than an occasional accident (back when I let them outside), my cats 
all lived to be around 18 or 19. My Patches lived to be 21, and he was an 
in/out cat his whole life. Then one day he did not return. But he was healthy 
right up until he left. Now my cats are indoor except for Cally who just hates 
it indoors. And she has an insulated little house to go in which is built up on 
a platform and the door is only large enough for her to go through, and it is 
in a garage where the door is always open. Other animals don't seem to dare to 
go in there.
Ardy



-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel 
Dagner
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 3:56 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

I am hoping Josie (Jo Jo) the new kitty gets to be the Guinness Records oldest 
cat someday. By then I too will be old enough to worry about out living the 
next one. Am I the only one who after losing a very special kitty tragically 
young and getting a new one, has little panic attacks that something bad will 
happen to the new one? She, her siblings and her mother all tested negative for 
FELV/FIV, but I find myself looking at her and thinking OMG what if she has a 
heart murmur, what if she has FIP, what if she gets cancer, what if I forget to 
put the toilet seat down and she falls in. Ok, so she is big enough to get out 
of the toilet if she fell in, but what if she bumped her head on the way in! 
Yes, I am actually constantly checking the toilets in the house.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 4:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker

Check out Rustic Hollow.

 Ardy Robertson  wrote:
> I am actually thinking that next time around I will adopt a more 
> senior cat. My age is getting to be more “senior” in nature, and I 
> worry that if my pets outlive me, what will happen to them? Both of my 
> kids say they would take them, but my daughter is more of a dog 
> person, and her hubby is very allergic to cats. And my son loves cats, 
> but is gone all the time traveling – I just don’t think either would be an 
> ideal situation.
>
>
>
> Ardy
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Margo
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:00 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
>
> Rachel, "senior" rescue isn't for everyone, and I don't fault you at all.
> ANY cat who finds a home is cause for celebration. If we couldn't 
> place the young ones the less adoptables would be out of time that 
> much more quickly. It's hard to wait for the right cat, but you'll find her.
>
> Good luck :)
>
> Margo
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rachel Dagner
> Sent: Jun 11, 2016 9:45 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tucker
>
>
>
>
> Yes, the two I am looking at are girls as well and look very similar 
> to Tucker. I figure girls have way less of chance for getting 
> blockages.  I know I will disappoint a lot of people on here, as well 
> as some friends that do rescue by admitting they are young kitties and 
> not old. I do feel a lot of guilt because I don't want any kitty to 
> not have a home, but in the end it needs to be my decision and I have 
> thought about the pros and cons a great deal. I wish I could save them 
> all.  I am praying my new kitty will get used to riding in the car and 
> will take her to work to get her used to it. Tucker actually loved 
> riding in the car, when he was homeless at work he used to follow me 
> to my car and put his paws up on the door ledge to get in. When I did 
> take him home he snuggled right in the crate and looked positively 
> content. I took him to the mountains on vacation. We had a nice cabin 
> with a huge screened porch so he could watch the wildlife. I also have 
> the pet tracking gps collar he had to wear on vacation just in case. I 
> never left Tucker or Daizy in the eleven years I had her with a 
> sitter, where I go they go or I just don't go, I don't trust anyone 
> with my animals except my mom and she lives in Texas. I want my new 
> kitty to travel too if at all possible and will work very hard to make 
> this happen. I also hope to get her used to brushing her teeth every 
> night just like Daizy. And I hope that she and Daizy will play 
> together like she and Tucker did. I hope that Harry will fall in love 
> with her antics and cuteness like he did Tucker and 

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[Kelley S]

I've not had to deal with a great deal of stomatitis, but I've heard good
things about cold laser therapy following full mouth extraction.  Here's a
url that is interesting (but about FIV cats, not FELV ones).
http://www.fivtherapy.com/gingivostomatitis3.htm?ckattempt=1

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Rachel Dagner  wrote:

> I hate felv with all of my heart and soul. I wish it was it was something
> we could all stomp on and strangle and beat the living daylights out of. I
> did laundry tonight and washed the towel from Tucks carrier and vacuumed
> the porch rug that had one of his claw sheds on it. I still miss him so
> much. I love Josie but it's still hard to get over how unfair it is to lose
> our babies to some stupid little micro organism virus that needs to be
> wiped from the face of the earth. I pray everyday that someone finds a way
> to kill this virus so no animal or human ever has to suffer from it again.
> I long for the day when our little group is defunct because it is no longer
> needed. Sorry for throwing this rant in, emotional day at the Dagner
> household, I just want so badly for everyone's babies to be able to survive
> and for their humans to not have to go through this.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 9:34 PM,  <
> swacht1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I guess you all have been lucky – or your kitty cats have been lucky –
> stomatitis can be horrible – yes bad breath but lesions in the mouth –
> infection – not to be taken lightly – especially with an FeLV kitty.
> Speaking from experience – dealing with it now.
>
> I do agree 2nd opinions are important.
> Sandy W
>
> *From:* Amani Oakley 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:29 PM
> *To:* Amy  ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
>
>
> Hi Ashley
>
>
>
> I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of
> the gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of
> a problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example.
> Sometimes it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often
> and not usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and
> steroids will usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets
> now in a transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the
> inside of a cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This
> is especially important if their gums are sore or they have an infected
> tooth or more. It hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one
> cat who has stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her
> the transdermal prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she
> will be able to eat normally again.
>
>
>
> However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis
> at a level when it is really problematic.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Amy
> *Sent:* June-14-16 10:04 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
>
>
>
> Hi Ashley,
>
>
>
> I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had
> numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues.
> I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but
> they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so
> much stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience
> no two vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally
> differ. Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do
> antibiotics and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest
> full extraction. I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions
> on any cats since I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods
> and they seem to respond well. That said, if a cat is really painful and
> not responding to treatment, I have heard it is more humane to extract so
> they are not in pain. If we had a cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't
> be opposed to extractions. If I was going to do that, I think I'd want a
> 2nd opinion to make sure that it is really necessary as I've seen vets that
> jump to that too quickly.
>
>
>
> As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress,
> watch their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure
> supplements and other things help too but I just love mine and do
> everything I can to keep them healthy. Nobody knows how long you will have.
> I've had some that live months and I have one that has been with me 12
> years. Just enjoy Twigs for whatever time you have.  I hope you have many
> happy years together.
>
>
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Amy
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* ashley 

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[Rachel Dagner]

I hate felv with all of my heart and soul. I wish it was it was something we 
could all stomp on and strangle and beat the living daylights out of. I did 
laundry tonight and washed the towel from Tucks carrier and vacuumed the porch 
rug that had one of his claw sheds on it. I still miss him so much. I love 
Josie but it's still hard to get over how unfair it is to lose our babies to 
some stupid little micro organism virus that needs to be wiped from the face of 
the earth. I pray everyday that someone finds a way to kill this virus so no 
animal or human ever has to suffer from it again. I long for the day when our 
little group is defunct because it is no longer needed. Sorry for throwing this 
rant in, emotional day at the Dagner household, I just want so badly for 
everyone's babies to be able to survive and for their humans to not have to go 
through this. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 9:34 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess you all have been lucky – or your kitty cats have been lucky – 
> stomatitis can be horrible – yes bad breath but lesions in the mouth – 
> infection – not to be taken lightly – especially with an FeLV kitty.  
> Speaking from experience – dealing with it now.
>  
> I do agree 2nd opinions are important.
> Sandy W
>  
> From: Amani Oakley
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:29 PM
> To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
>  
> Hi Ashley
>  
> I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of 
> the gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of a 
> problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example. Sometimes 
> it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often and not 
> usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and steroids will 
> usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets now in a 
> transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the inside of a 
> cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This is especially 
> important if their gums are sore or they have an infected tooth or more. It 
> hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one cat who has 
> stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her the transdermal 
> prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she will be able to eat 
> normally again.
>  
> However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis at 
> a level when it is really problematic.
>  
> Amani
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
> Sent: June-14-16 10:04 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
>  
> Hi Ashley,
>  
> I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had 
> numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues. 
> I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but 
> they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so 
> much stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience no 
> two vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally 
> differ. Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do 
> antibiotics and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest 
> full extraction. I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions 
> on any cats since I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods and 
> they seem to respond well. That said, if a cat is really painful and not 
> responding to treatment, I have heard it is more humane to extract so they 
> are not in pain. If we had a cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't be 
> opposed to extractions. If I was going to do that, I think I'd want a 2nd 
> opinion to make sure that it is really necessary as I've seen vets that jump 
> to that too quickly.
>  
> As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress, watch 
> their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure supplements 
> and other things help too but I just love mine and do everything I can to 
> keep them healthy. Nobody knows how long you will have. I've had some that 
> live months and I have one that has been with me 12 years. Just enjoy Twigs 
> for whatever time you have.  I hope you have many happy years together.
>  
> Just my 2 cents.
> Amy
>  
> 
> From: ashley egger 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:18 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma
>  
> Hi there!
> I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed 
> about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out 
> there and hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some 
> of things I'm facing.
>  
> Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where 

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[swacht1946]

I guess you all have been lucky – or your kitty cats have been lucky – 
stomatitis can be horrible – yes bad breath but lesions in the mouth – 
infection – not to be taken lightly – especially with an FeLV kitty.  Speaking 
from experience – dealing with it now.

I do agree 2nd opinions are important.
Sandy W

From: Amani Oakley 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:29 PM
To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

Hi Ashley

 

I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of the 
gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of a 
problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example. Sometimes 
it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often and not 
usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and steroids will 
usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets now in a 
transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the inside of a 
cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This is especially 
important if their gums are sore or they have an infected tooth or more. It 
hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one cat who has 
stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her the transdermal 
prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she will be able to eat 
normally again.

 

However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis at a 
level when it is really problematic.

 

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: June-14-16 10:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

 

Hi Ashley,

 

I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had 
numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues. 
I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but 
they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so much 
stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience no two 
vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally differ. 
Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do antibiotics 
and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest full extraction. 
I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions on any cats since 
I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods and they seem to respond 
well. That said, if a cat is really painful and not responding to treatment, I 
have heard it is more humane to extract so they are not in pain. If we had a 
cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't be opposed to extractions. If I was 
going to do that, I think I'd want a 2nd opinion to make sure that it is really 
necessary as I've seen vets that jump to that too quickly.

 

As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress, watch 
their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure supplements 
and other things help too but I just love mine and do everything I can to keep 
them healthy. Nobody knows how long you will have. I've had some that live 
months and I have one that has been with me 12 years. Just enjoy Twigs for 
whatever time you have.  I hope you have many happy years together.

 

Just my 2 cents.

Amy

 




From: ashley egger 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:18 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

 

Hi there!

I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed about 
a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out there and 
hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some of things 
I'm facing.

  

Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative and 
was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to the vet 
and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been exposed to no 
other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while with the rescue or 
a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed Felv and stomatitis, but 
his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly normal- eating, playing, etc.  I 
am just filled with dread at the thought that he may not always be like this. 
Back at the vet today for check-up- had them do another Elisa test- still 
positive (damnit) but bloodwork still perfect and he has actually gained weight 
(a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still 
has the cough and vet diagnosed asthma after I showed her a video of him having 
one his "spells."  He does it on average once a day or every other day.  She 
prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma and full extraction of all his teeth 
for the stomatitis. 



My questions I guess are:

-Anyone have cat 

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Ashley

I echo what Amy has said. Stomatitis usually presents as some reddening of the 
gum, usually along the teeth line. It doesn’t usually cause too much of a 
problem for the cats, but you might notice bad breath, for example. Sometimes 
it might result in the need to extract a tooth, but not too often and not 
usually until it has a been around a while. Antibiotics and steroids will 
usually help – especially prednisone. I get it from my vets now in a 
transdermal cream, with is great because you just rub it on the inside of a 
cat’s ears and you don’t need to crank open their mouths. This is especially 
important if their gums are sore or they have an infected tooth or more. It 
hurts more to open the mouth, quite obviously. I have one cat who has 
stomatitis and an infected tooth. I find that when I give her the transdermal 
prednisone, the pain in her mouth/gums is reduced and she will be able to eat 
normally again.

However, as Amy has said, I don’t think it is too common to get stomatitis at a 
level when it is really problematic.

Amani
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: June-14-16 10:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

Hi Ashley,

I can only comment on the stomatitis. Haven't dealt with asthma. I've had 
numerous leuk positives and have never had to deal with major mouth issues. 
I've had some with red gums that need a dose of antibiotics and or pred but 
they always respond well. I volunteer for a rescue, though, and we see so much 
stomatitis. There are so many treatment options and in my experience no two 
vets agree. Many of our cats have had 2nd opinions and they totally differ. 
Some vets test for Bartonella, some think it is a waste. Some do antibiotics 
and or steroids. Some recommend laser treatment. Some suggest full extraction. 
I can tell you that we have not had to do full extractions on any cats since 
I've been with the rescue. We always try other methods and they seem to respond 
well. That said, if a cat is really painful and not responding to treatment, I 
have heard it is more humane to extract so they are not in pain. If we had a 
cat that was an extreme case, we wouldn't be opposed to extractions. If I was 
going to do that, I think I'd want a 2nd opinion to make sure that it is really 
necessary as I've seen vets that jump to that too quickly.

As far as keeping them healthy, just love them, try to minimize stress, watch 
their health and treat anything that comes up as needed. I'm sure supplements 
and other things help too but I just love mine and do everything I can to keep 
them healthy. Nobody knows how long you will have. I've had some that live 
months and I have one that has been with me 12 years. Just enjoy Twigs for 
whatever time you have.  I hope you have many happy years together.

Just my 2 cents.
Amy


From: ashley egger >
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:18 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

Hi there!
I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed about 
a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out there and 
hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some of things 
I'm facing.

Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative and 
was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to the vet 
and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been exposed to no 
other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while with the rescue or 
a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed Felv and stomatitis, but 
his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly normal- eating, playing, etc.  I 
am just filled with dread at the thought that he may not always be like this. 
Back at the vet today for check-up- had them do another Elisa test- still 
positive (damnit) but bloodwork still perfect and he has actually gained weight 
(a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still 
has the cough and vet diagnosed asthma after I showed her a video of him having 
one his "spells."  He does it on average once a day or every other day.  She 
prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma and full extraction of all his teeth 
for the stomatitis.

My questions I guess are:
-Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns with inhaler use?  Is 
this the best treatment?

-Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the 
extractions?  Is this the best treatment?

-Also what can I do to prolong this mostly healthy time for Twigs and prevent 
(or at least delay) his decline from the felv (ugh I HATE that word so much.)  
Realistically how much time do I have? I feed him good grain free food and he 
takes multiple supplements currently.

   I 

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[swacht1946]

Hi Ashley, I am currently dealing with one if my cats who has stomatitis – his 
is not FeLV – there is some talk about stomatitis and the Calicivirus and 
stomatitis – I’ve done a lot of searching and found lots of sites and 
information – one I thought easy to understand – stomatitisincats.com – My 
Rascal has had most of his teeth removed – has been on antibiotics and 
anti-inflammatory meds – his is 9 years old. Hills has canned called Recovery 
and then there is also A/D by prescription which are good for regular feeding 
and syringe feeding.  If you can, get a 2nd opinion of total teeth removal.

Sandy W

From: Katherine K. 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:39 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

Ashley,
My older FeLV boy gets seasonal allergies from April - November where he has 
wheezing and chest congestion (No sneezing or watery eyes/nose). He's been 
x-rayed for asthma a couple of times but not found much. I give him lysine but 
he still has some coughing. 

Sorry to hear about your little buddy! Hope he feels better soon. Glad he's 
still doing well at age 2. 

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:31 AM,  wrote:

  Have you tried baby food (make sue it does not have onion or garlic in it), 
push come to shove, you could use an eye dropper or yringe to get it past the 
painful teeth. At least she would be getting food.  Once I got some chicken 
livers at the grocery store, boiled them and then pureed them.  Or get some 
mackeral, boil it and puree.  They seem to love foods that smell.



   Rachel Dagner  wrote:
  >
  Hi Ashley,

  I am so sorry to hear your baby Twigs is having problems. We all know how 
devastating it is to have a sick baby. I don't know anything about stomatitis 
so I did some reading on it. Sounds like it can be a very painful and life 
threatening illness if it gets bad. From what you said he is still eating and 
acting normal though. I read where some kitties have had teeth cleanings 
followed with regular brushings and that this can help. Not sure how much it 
would help a felv cat or if he would even let you brush but maybe something to 
consider. I have a new baby after losing my felv baby and am bound and 
determined to brush her teeth and get her used to it.
  As for the asthma I would probably try the medicine and see if it helps. I 
checked my Marty Goldstein book and he says he uses something called Dr. 
Christopher’s Breathe Aid and Pinellia 16 for coughing and asthma. So maybe 
something you can look into as well.
  I am glad you are feeding him good food and giving supplements. I am praying 
that whatever treatments you chose are effective and help him live a longer and 
healthier life. We can only do what we can that is within our financial means 
for our babies and sometimes you can spend everything you have and still lose 
to this sad disease. Just give him love and enjoy everyday you have with him. 
You are a good mommy and you love him and he knows that. I will keep you both I 
my prayers. I hope you will stay with us through your journey and lean on us as 
needed. It was very helpful for me to have this group to come to for support.

  Rachel


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  > On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:18 PM, ashley egger  wrote:
  >
  > Hi there!
  > I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was diagnosed 
about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put myself out there 
and hopefully some of you may have experience or suggestions with some of 
things I'm facing.
  >
  > Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative 
and was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to the 
vet and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been exposed to no 
other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while with the rescue or 
a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed Felv and stomatitis, but 
his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly normal- eating, playing, etc.  I 
am just filled with dread at the thought that he may not always be like this. 
Back at the vet today for check-up- had them do another Elisa test- still 
positive (damnit) but bloodwork still perfect and he has actually gained weight 
(a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still 
has the cough and vet diagnosed asthma after I showed her a video of him having 
one his "spells."  He does it on average once a day or every other day.  She 
prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma and full extraction of all his teeth 
for the stomatitis.
  >
  > My questions I guess are:
  > -Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns with inhaler use? 
 Is this the best treatment?
  >
  > -Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the 
extractions?  Is this the best treatment?
  >
  > -Also what can I do to prolong this mostly healthy time for 

Re: [Felvtalk] Twigs- Felv and asthma

[Katherine K.]

Ashley,
My older FeLV boy gets seasonal allergies from April - November where he
has wheezing and chest congestion (No sneezing or watery eyes/nose). He's
been x-rayed for asthma a couple of times but not found much. I give him
lysine but he still has some coughing.

Sorry to hear about your little buddy! Hope he feels better soon. Glad he's
still doing well at age 2.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:31 AM,  wrote:

> Have you tried baby food (make sue it does not have onion or garlic in
> it), push come to shove, you could use an eye dropper or yringe to get it
> past the painful teeth. At least she would be getting food.  Once I got
> some chicken livers at the grocery store, boiled them and then pureed
> them.  Or get some mackeral, boil it and puree.  They seem to love foods
> that smell.
>
>
>  Rachel Dagner  wrote:
> >
> Hi Ashley,
>
> I am so sorry to hear your baby Twigs is having problems. We all know how
> devastating it is to have a sick baby. I don't know anything about
> stomatitis so I did some reading on it. Sounds like it can be a very
> painful and life threatening illness if it gets bad. From what you said he
> is still eating and acting normal though. I read where some kitties have
> had teeth cleanings followed with regular brushings and that this can help.
> Not sure how much it would help a felv cat or if he would even let you
> brush but maybe something to consider. I have a new baby after losing my
> felv baby and am bound and determined to brush her teeth and get her used
> to it.
> As for the asthma I would probably try the medicine and see if it helps. I
> checked my Marty Goldstein book and he says he uses something called Dr.
> Christopher’s Breathe Aid and Pinellia 16 for coughing and asthma. So maybe
> something you can look into as well.
> I am glad you are feeding him good food and giving supplements. I am
> praying that whatever treatments you chose are effective and help him live
> a longer and healthier life. We can only do what we can that is within our
> financial means for our babies and sometimes you can spend everything you
> have and still lose to this sad disease. Just give him love and enjoy
> everyday you have with him. You are a good mommy and you love him and he
> knows that. I will keep you both I my prayers. I hope you will stay with us
> through your journey and lean on us as needed. It was very helpful for me
> to have this group to come to for support.
>
> Rachel
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 14, 2016, at 6:18 PM, ashley egger 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there!
> > I've been lurking for sometime, ever since my cat Twigs was
> diagnosed about a year ago.  I figure it's time I post something and put
> myself out there and hopefully some of you may have experience or
> suggestions with some of things I'm facing.
> >
> > Twigs is 2 years old, got him from a rescue where he tested negative
> and was vaccinated against Felv.  Then he developed a cough, I took him to
> the vet and got a terrible surprise- he tested positive (and had been
> exposed to no other cats since adoption.) so I'm guessing he got it while
> with the rescue or a false neg. the first time.Anyway- vet diagnosed
> Felv and stomatitis, but his bloodwork was perfect.  He acts perfectly
> normal- eating, playing, etc.  I am just filled with dread at the thought
> that he may not always be like this. Back at the vet today for check-up-
> had them do another Elisa test- still positive (damnit) but bloodwork still
> perfect and he has actually gained weight (a plump healthy 10-11lbs) and
> vet said he seemed remarkably healthy. He still has the cough and vet
> diagnosed asthma after I showed her a video of him having one his
> "spells."  He does it on average once a day or every other day.  She
> prescribed advair inhaler for the asthma and full extraction of all his
> teeth for the stomatitis.
> >
> > My questions I guess are:
> > -Anyone have cat with both felv and asthma?  any concerns with inhaler
> use?  Is this the best treatment?
> >
> > -Any thoughts on the stomatitis and anyone have experience with the
> extractions?  Is this the best treatment?
> >
> > -Also what can I do to prolong this mostly healthy time for Twigs and
> prevent (or at least delay) his decline from the felv (ugh I HATE that word
> so much.)  Realistically how much time do I have? I feed him good grain
> free food and he takes multiple supplements currently.
> >
> >I will do whatever I can to prolong his life and comfort, but cost is
> definitely an issue too.  Anyway thanks in advance for any help.
> >
> > -ashley
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Re: [Felvtalk] Our Cats....

[dlgegg]

Any sleep is better than none.

 Rachel Dagner  wrote: 
> There has been a kitty hanging outside work again the last couple of days.
> Luckily very skittish as I won't be taking another one home. I did put some
> of Josie's kitten food and some water out just now. I actually have a bag of
> Purina Kitten Chow at home that they had Josie on, which if you ask me is
> just horrible food, but better than going hungry. I will bring that to work
> for outside kitty and buy more cat food for him if he sticks around and eats
> what I give him. Josie was wild again last night, but did snuggle in with me
> for cat naps. She even slept on Harry's arm for awhile he told me this
> morning.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 6:05 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Our Cats
> 
> SOUNDS LIKE HARLEY AND DEE WHEN THEY WERE 3 MONTHS.  Harley still knows how
> to push my buttons.  He also has an attitude (now 4 years), goes to a chair,
> sinks his claws in and turns with that "Are you going to let me out or do I
> destroy this chair" look.  Of course, I let him out, he has me well trained.
> 
>  ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:
> > Rachel...
> >
> > Your little girl sounds like an adorable little hellionand likely
> > still small enough that her nighttime " Zooms" are not going to end up
> > with the house Wrecked Like Ardy I have had a number of times
> > now that I swear I want to kill my 9mo old ( Magellin...  " Jelly")
> > He weighs FAR too much to be zooming around the house like an 8 week
> > old kitten but that is exactly what he does( he's doing it now as I
> > type this note and he is driving me CRAZY)  Up over the bed...over the
> > computer...up to the top of the Dresser...knocks EVERYTHING off..back
> > to the floor imagines he sees something well ahead and takes off
> > like a shot into the living roomover the sofa...across the
> > windows... back again...into the kitchen where he knocks the pots and
> > pans to the floorTHEN when I finally catch him he looks at me with
> > that "
> > Yeah..and?? " look almost as if to say" What did you expect... I'm
> > a CAT!!! "  Per Harry,  I used to have an unbelieveably
> > affectionate tortie years ago who would take up residence on my chest
> > EVERY night after I fell asleep  I'd invariably wake up in the
> > middle of the night to her " bisquit" making near my neck and my eyes
> > would open to this little face mere inches from my own...Happy as
> > could be, purring away and kneading to beat the band  her claws
> > stung but the whole thing was SO damn cute that I simply let her keep
> > it up and ultimately fell back to sleep   I think that is the
> > actual barometer of when you have been transformed into a " cat
> > person" when you are willing to endure the little discomforts of their
> > " misbehaviors " ( that are generally simply "cat" behaviors) because you
> > so appreciate their "
> > catness ".( BTW... that is not to say that I don't get
> > outrageously irritated at times when he destroys some bit of the
> > household in his Zeal...eg... My Patio door screens are virtually
> > useless as a bug deterrent due to his discovery that climbing to the
> > top of the screen and yowling will get me to the porch to let him back
> > in( I'm fortunate to live on the second floor of my condo complex
> > and CAN allow my Kitties a taste of the outdoors without worrying
> > about them taking off or contacting other cats or critters)  I
> > love to watch them enjoying themselves laying out in the sun and try
> > to imagine that the sun is somehow ridding their body of the FeL Virus
> > ( Fastasy of course but a nice thought)  enjoy your new Kittens...
> > Harry will be as fond of them , over time, as you are if he has a heart...
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Our Cats....

[Rachel Dagner]

There has been a kitty hanging outside work again the last couple of days.
Luckily very skittish as I won't be taking another one home. I did put some
of Josie's kitten food and some water out just now. I actually have a bag of
Purina Kitten Chow at home that they had Josie on, which if you ask me is
just horrible food, but better than going hungry. I will bring that to work
for outside kitty and buy more cat food for him if he sticks around and eats
what I give him. Josie was wild again last night, but did snuggle in with me
for cat naps. She even slept on Harry's arm for awhile he told me this
morning.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 6:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: ROBERT CHAPEL
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Our Cats

SOUNDS LIKE HARLEY AND DEE WHEN THEY WERE 3 MONTHS.  Harley still knows how
to push my buttons.  He also has an attitude (now 4 years), goes to a chair,
sinks his claws in and turns with that "Are you going to let me out or do I
destroy this chair" look.  Of course, I let him out, he has me well trained.

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote:
> Rachel...
>
> Your little girl sounds like an adorable little hellionand likely
> still small enough that her nighttime " Zooms" are not going to end up
> with the house Wrecked Like Ardy I have had a number of times
> now that I swear I want to kill my 9mo old ( Magellin...  " Jelly")
> He weighs FAR too much to be zooming around the house like an 8 week
> old kitten but that is exactly what he does( he's doing it now as I
> type this note and he is driving me CRAZY)  Up over the bed...over the
> computer...up to the top of the Dresser...knocks EVERYTHING off..back
> to the floor imagines he sees something well ahead and takes off
> like a shot into the living roomover the sofa...across the
> windows... back again...into the kitchen where he knocks the pots and
> pans to the floorTHEN when I finally catch him he looks at me with
> that "
> Yeah..and?? " look almost as if to say" What did you expect... I'm
> a CAT!!! "  Per Harry,  I used to have an unbelieveably
> affectionate tortie years ago who would take up residence on my chest
> EVERY night after I fell asleep  I'd invariably wake up in the
> middle of the night to her " bisquit" making near my neck and my eyes
> would open to this little face mere inches from my own...Happy as
> could be, purring away and kneading to beat the band  her claws
> stung but the whole thing was SO damn cute that I simply let her keep
> it up and ultimately fell back to sleep   I think that is the
> actual barometer of when you have been transformed into a " cat
> person" when you are willing to endure the little discomforts of their
> " misbehaviors " ( that are generally simply "cat" behaviors) because you
> so appreciate their "
> catness ".( BTW... that is not to say that I don't get
> outrageously irritated at times when he destroys some bit of the
> household in his Zeal...eg... My Patio door screens are virtually
> useless as a bug deterrent due to his discovery that climbing to the
> top of the screen and yowling will get me to the porch to let him back
> in( I'm fortunate to live on the second floor of my condo complex
> and CAN allow my Kitties a taste of the outdoors without worrying
> about them taking off or contacting other cats or critters)  I
> love to watch them enjoying themselves laying out in the sun and try
> to imagine that the sun is somehow ridding their body of the FeL Virus
> ( Fastasy of course but a nice thought)  enjoy your new Kittens...
> Harry will be as fond of them , over time, as you are if he has a heart...


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[dlgegg]

SOUNDS LIKE HARLEY AND DEE WHEN THEY WERE 3 MONTHS.  Harley still knows how to 
push my buttons.  He also has an attitude (now 4 years), goes to a chair, sinks 
his claws in and turns with that "Are you going to let me out or do I destroy 
this chair" look.  Of course, I let him out, he has me well trained.

 ROBERT CHAPEL  wrote: 
> Rachel...
> 
> Your little girl sounds like an adorable little hellionand likely 
> still small enough that her nighttime " Zooms" are not going to end up 
> with the house Wrecked Like Ardy I have had a number of times 
> now that I swear I want to kill my 9mo old ( Magellin...  " Jelly")  He 
> weighs FAR too much to be zooming around the house like an 8 week old 
> kitten but that is exactly what he does( he's doing it now as I type 
> this note and he is driving me CRAZY)  Up over the bed...over the 
> computer...up to the top of the Dresser...knocks EVERYTHING off..back to 
> the floor imagines he sees something well ahead and takes off like a 
> shot into the living roomover the sofa...across the windows... back 
> again...into the kitchen where he knocks the pots and pans to the 
> floorTHEN when I finally catch him he looks at me with that " 
> Yeah..and?? " look almost as if to say" What did you expect... I'm a 
> CAT!!! "  Per Harry,  I used to have an unbelieveably affectionate 
> tortie years ago who would take up residence on my chest EVERY night 
> after I fell asleep  I'd invariably wake up in the middle of the 
> night to her " bisquit" making near my neck and my eyes would open to 
> this little face mere inches from my own...Happy as could be, purring 
> away and kneading to beat the band  her claws stung but the whole 
> thing was SO damn cute that I simply let her keep it up and ultimately 
> fell back to sleep   I think that is the actual barometer of when 
> you have been transformed into a " cat person" when you are willing 
> to endure the little discomforts of their " misbehaviors " ( that are 
> generally simply "cat" behaviors) because you so appreciate their " 
> catness ".( BTW... that is not to say that I don't get outrageously 
> irritated at times when he destroys some bit of the household in his 
> Zeal...eg... My Patio door screens are virtually useless as a bug 
> deterrent due to his discovery that climbing to the top of the screen 
> and yowling will get me to the porch to let him back in( I'm 
> fortunate to live on the second floor of my condo complex and CAN allow 
> my Kitties a taste of the outdoors without worrying about them taking 
> off or contacting other cats or critters)  I love to watch them 
> enjoying themselves laying out in the sun and try to imagine that the 
> sun is somehow ridding their body of the FeL Virus ( Fastasy of course 
> but a nice thought)  enjoy your new Kittens...  Harry will be as 
> fond of them , over time, as you are if he has a heart...


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