Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

2017-04-05 Thread Amani Oakley
As I mentioned, Sheri, I will dab baby food on their mouths - on their upper 
lip even – beneath their noses. They will usually automatically lick that off. 
Sometimes that encourages them to eat a bit more because the pureed baby food 
is easy to lick up, high in protein and vitamins, and very easy on the 
digestive tract.


Amani


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri 
Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 10:20 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom


I've struggled with Mo since he came home, literally, the only thing he will 
eat on his own is the Temptations treats. I count them so I know he's gotten 
more than his basic needs every day but he's never bowled us over with his 
appetite, even on mirzapine (definitely misspelled that). He will lick the gel 
off his feet still, I feel lucky to have found anything he likes but a bit 
stuck as he won't try anything else!

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 5:30 PM Amani Oakley 
mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Good luck Sheri. I understand all too well the reluctance to add stress by 
syringe feeding, but I think that the “gas in the engine” is also dependent on 
getting in those calories. I rely on baby food. I find that it is usually 
palatable enough that you can usually syringe a wee bit of it on their lips or 
just inside their lips – if they sit or lie down beside you or in your lap (my 
preferred position), and they will lick at what is in or on their mouth. I 
think this helps to stimulate their appetite. The Winstrol will often also help 
improve appetite, strength and a sense of feeling better so that they want to 
eat a bit more.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 3:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom


Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while adding on 
the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for 60 days of the 
Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I don't want to check 
too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all too soon if it's not 
helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was nonexistent last week.

I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the high 
calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a day. I was 
syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that unless he won't eat 
at all.

I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in healthcare 
and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this makes sense. I just 
hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body to recover.

Sheri

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley 
mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Hi Sheri

As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with the 
Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is at least 
worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good that you have 
a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you to know if he is 
moving the right direction on the meds.

10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had 
dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with a 
blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the Winstrol, it 
was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more than giving a 
temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2nd transfusion, 
but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of blood because he had 
had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that was it for being able to 
give him any more transfusions. I had watched for two months as his haematocrit 
dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite trying all sorts of other options 
like Interferon and LTCI.

I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and 
within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his weekly 
blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it rose 
steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal reference 
range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost 10 months of 
treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol, his haematocrit 
and red cells would fall again.

I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as 
well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run a 
reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he is 
producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte count was 
basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost immediately.

I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to get 
the food to 

Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

2017-04-05 Thread Sheri Burbridge
I've struggled with Mo since he came home, literally, the only thing he
will eat on his own is the Temptations treats. I count them so I know he's
gotten more than his basic needs every day but he's never bowled us over
with his appetite, even on mirzapine (definitely misspelled that). He will
lick the gel off his feet still, I feel lucky to have found anything he
likes but a bit stuck as he won't try anything else!

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 5:30 PM Amani Oakley  wrote:

> Good luck Sheri. I understand all too well the reluctance to add stress by
> syringe feeding, but I think that the “gas in the engine” is also dependent
> on getting in those calories. I rely on baby food. I find that it is
> usually palatable enough that you can usually syringe a wee bit of it on
> their lips or just inside their lips – if they sit or lie down beside you
> or in your lap (my preferred position), and they will lick at what is in or
> on their mouth. I think this helps to stimulate their appetite. The
> Winstrol will often also help improve appetite, strength and a sense of
> feeling better so that they want to eat a bit more.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Sheri Burbridge
> *Sent:* April-05-17 3:22 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom
>
>
>
> Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while
> adding on the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for
> 60 days of the Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I
> don't want to check too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all
> too soon if it's not helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was
> nonexistent last week.
>
> I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the
> high calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a
> day. I was syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that
> unless he won't eat at all.
>
> I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in
> healthcare and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this
> makes sense. I just hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body
> to recover.
>
> Sheri
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley  wrote:
>
> Hi Sheri
>
>
>
> As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with
> the Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is
> at least worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good
> that you have a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you
> to know if he is moving the right direction on the meds.
>
>
>
> 10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had
> dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with
> a blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the
> Winstrol, it was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more
> than giving a temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2
> nd transfusion, but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of
> blood because he had had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that
> was it for being able to give him any more transfusions. I had watched for
> two months as his haematocrit dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite
> trying all sorts of other options like Interferon and LTCI.
>
>
>
> I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and
> within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his
> weekly blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it
> rose steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal
> reference range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost
> 10 months of treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol,
> his haematocrit and red cells would fall again.
>
>
>
> I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as
> well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run
> a reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he
> is producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte
> count was basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost
> immediately.
>
>
>
> I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to
> get the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the
> GI tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and
> stool moves very slowly through the GI tract, thus adding to the cat’s
> malaise, and reduced appetite. Also, this slow down allows more problems to
> develop in the intestinal walls (with the stool sitting in one spot for a
> long time). The apometoclopromide increases peristaltic action in the GI
> tract, pushing food down faster. I found this really helped Zander, since
> he was also vomitin

Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

2017-04-05 Thread Amani Oakley
Good luck Sheri. I understand all too well the reluctance to add stress by 
syringe feeding, but I think that the “gas in the engine” is also dependent on 
getting in those calories. I rely on baby food. I find that it is usually 
palatable enough that you can usually syringe a wee bit of it on their lips or 
just inside their lips – if they sit or lie down beside you or in your lap (my 
preferred position), and they will lick at what is in or on their mouth. I 
think this helps to stimulate their appetite. The Winstrol will often also help 
improve appetite, strength and a sense of feeling better so that they want to 
eat a bit more.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri 
Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 3:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom


Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while adding on 
the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for 60 days of the 
Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I don't want to check 
too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all too soon if it's not 
helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was nonexistent last week.

I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the high 
calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a day. I was 
syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that unless he won't eat 
at all.

I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in healthcare 
and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this makes sense. I just 
hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body to recover.

Sheri

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley 
mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Hi Sheri

As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with the 
Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is at least 
worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good that you have 
a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you to know if he is 
moving the right direction on the meds.

10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had 
dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with a 
blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the Winstrol, it 
was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more than giving a 
temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2nd transfusion, 
but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of blood because he had 
had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that was it for being able to 
give him any more transfusions. I had watched for two months as his haematocrit 
dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite trying all sorts of other options 
like Interferon and LTCI.

I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and 
within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his weekly 
blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it rose 
steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal reference 
range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost 10 months of 
treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol, his haematocrit 
and red cells would fall again.

I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as 
well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run a 
reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he is 
producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte count was 
basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost immediately.

I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to get 
the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the GI 
tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and stool 
moves very slowly through the GI tract, thus adding to the cat’s malaise, and 
reduced appetite. Also, this slow down allows more problems to develop in the 
intestinal walls (with the stool sitting in one spot for a long time). The 
apometoclopromide increases peristaltic action in the GI tract, pushing food 
down faster. I found this really helped Zander, since he was also vomiting all 
the time (including after I would spend an hour getting him to eat or syringe 
feeding him baby food). The apometoclopromide is given a little bit before 
feeding, and it worked like a charm. Once I started giving it to him, the 
vomiting stopped and stool started coming out of him normally.

Sadly, however, the meds haven’t worked for everyone. It could be how advanced 
the condition is before the meds are started, and there is also information 
online that they have identified a number of strains of the FeLV virus. I 
suspect that this might also account for the fact that s

Re: [Felvtalk] Vi and Mo...

2017-04-05 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL

Sheri...
I know , all too well, what you are going through and hope to the power 
of 10 that the meds help for mo as much as they have for others on the 
list   The more people out there recognize that FeLV is not always a 
death sentence ( if one has a forward thinking vet) the more people 
might be willing to adopt these lovely cats ( At the shelter where I 
volunteer EACH of our FeLV cats is nice than the next)  I am worried 
about the Colony now because one of the Colony just died from Effusive 
FIP and since all were raised together there is a high likelihood that 
the others are still carrying the Corona Virus fingers crossed as to 
whether is will develop into FIP in them   So glad you have a vet 
that will work with you and my hopes are SO with little mo who really 
hasn't been given a fair shake until you guys came along.   Thanks 
for giving this deserving little guy a home EVEN if it's just for a 
brief while.


Bob


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So sorry for what you are dealing with Bob??that is one thing the 
members here do get ? how important our babies are to us. I sincerely 
hope and pray the meds work for Jelly.


Ardy



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of Amani Oakley

Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 4:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FeLV talk still active


Here is the exchange I have had with Bob.


Bob, I hope it is okay to post for you, since your emails haven?t gone 
through.



Amani


From: ROBERT CHAPEL [mailto:bcha...@optonline.net] Sent: April-03-17 
5:19 PM

To: Amani Oakley
Subject: RE: FeLV talk still active


No word from the moderator and no mail from the list... this is REALLY 
strange and happening at a really bad time...


I am SO damn heartbroken I don't have words...   Jelly is MY Zander... 
a very special companion much more like a dog.  My shadow whenever I 
was home...  I am going to miss him SO damn much and I don't want him 
to suffer even a day  But... I don't want to just put him down 
while he has a little quality of life..


Won't take up any more time   I'm going to write to some of the 
other list members and see if they have been active


Bob


On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Amani Oakley wrote:

Robert


I am incredibly and deeply upset and saddened by your news. Do try the 
Doxy and Winstrol to see if there might be some change. With that high 
white cell count, there is some sort of a bacterial infection going 
on, as I mentioned in my last email. The Doxy is often effective when 
other antibiotics don?t work.



I haven?t received any postings from the FeLV group. I find it odd 
that it would just stop functioning. Have you tried writing to the 
moderator to see if there is some sort of problem?



Amani

From: ROBERT CHAPEL [mailto:bcha...@optonline.net] Sent: April-01-17 
1:31 PM

To: Amani Oakley
Subject: FeLV talk still active


Sorry to interrupt you Amani but I've written a few times to the FeLV 
list and not seen my mail appear nor have I gotten anything from the 
list in many days  Have you?  Do you know if it's still active.
My remaining cat ( and very special one) is definitely on his way out 
and I really liked having the support of the group during these times 
( most of my friends are " understanding " but don't really "get" how 
important a pet is to some of us.  I don't think I have much time 
left with him... 186000 WBC, a tumor near his lungs and he's not 
eating at all ( I have him on Pred, and Mirtazapine and when I pick 
him back up from the shelter today I'll start him on Doxy, and 
winstrol just in case it might help a bit   HCT dropped from 42 to 
20 in the past 5 weeks but don't have a reticulocyte reading as I only 
had 1000.00 to devote to the guy this month and the Xrays and other 
exams ate this up rapidly.  Honestly if it is a lymphoma and 
he doesn't start eating

Re: [Felvtalk] YAY 4 HOPE

2017-04-05 Thread Sheri Burbridge
Thank you!

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:34 PM Jennifer Olson  wrote:

> Mo & Vi & you are in my prayers!
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Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

2017-04-05 Thread Sheri Burbridge
Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while adding
on the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for 60 days
of the Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I don't want
to check too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all too soon
if it's not helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was nonexistent
last week.

I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the
high calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a
day. I was syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that
unless he won't eat at all.

I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in
healthcare and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this
makes sense. I just hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body
to recover.

Sheri

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley  wrote:

> Hi Sheri
>
>
>
> As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with
> the Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is
> at least worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good
> that you have a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you
> to know if he is moving the right direction on the meds.
>
>
>
> 10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had
> dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with
> a blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the
> Winstrol, it was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more
> than giving a temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2
> nd transfusion, but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of
> blood because he had had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that
> was it for being able to give him any more transfusions. I had watched for
> two months as his haematocrit dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite
> trying all sorts of other options like Interferon and LTCI.
>
>
>
> I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and
> within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his
> weekly blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it
> rose steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal
> reference range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost
> 10 months of treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol,
> his haematocrit and red cells would fall again.
>
>
>
> I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as
> well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run
> a reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he
> is producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte
> count was basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost
> immediately.
>
>
>
> I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to
> get the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the
> GI tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and
> stool moves very slowly through the GI tract, thus adding to the cat’s
> malaise, and reduced appetite. Also, this slow down allows more problems to
> develop in the intestinal walls (with the stool sitting in one spot for a
> long time). The apometoclopromide increases peristaltic action in the GI
> tract, pushing food down faster. I found this really helped Zander, since
> he was also vomiting all the time (including after I would spend an hour
> getting him to eat or syringe feeding him baby food). The apometoclopromide
> is given a little bit before feeding, and it worked like a charm. Once I
> started giving it to him, the vomiting stopped and stool started coming out
> of him normally.
>
>
>
> Sadly, however, the meds haven’t worked for everyone. It could be how
> advanced the condition is before the meds are started, and there is also
> information online that they have identified a number of strains of the
> FeLV virus. I suspect that this might also account for the fact that some
> of us see a great improvement in our cats, while others don’t. I’m crossing
> my fingers for you and I am very happy that you have a supportive vet. That
> is often the first big problem, so thankfully, this isn’t an issue you must
> also deal with.
>
>
>
> Amani
>
>
>
> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Sheri Burbridge
> *Sent:* April-05-17 1:29 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] New FELV mom
>
>
>
> Hi everyone! I just joined your board today but I have been reading some
> of your posts since last week.
>
>
>
> About 2 months ago we adopted our first FELV cat Violet. 2 weeks later we
> also adopted her brother Mo. They are amazing, sweet, affectionate cats and
> we love them so much!
>
>
>
> Vi is eatin

Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

2017-04-05 Thread Amani Oakley
Hi Sheri

As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with the 
Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is at least 
worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good that you have 
a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you to know if he is 
moving the right direction on the meds.

10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had 
dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with a 
blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the Winstrol, it 
was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more than giving a 
temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2nd transfusion, 
but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of blood because he had 
had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that was it for being able to 
give him any more transfusions. I had watched for two months as his haematocrit 
dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite trying all sorts of other options 
like Interferon and LTCI.

I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and 
within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his weekly 
blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it rose 
steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal reference 
range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost 10 months of 
treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol, his haematocrit 
and red cells would fall again.

I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as 
well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run a 
reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he is 
producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte count was 
basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost immediately.

I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to get 
the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the GI 
tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and stool 
moves very slowly through the GI tract, thus adding to the cat’s malaise, and 
reduced appetite. Also, this slow down allows more problems to develop in the 
intestinal walls (with the stool sitting in one spot for a long time). The 
apometoclopromide increases peristaltic action in the GI tract, pushing food 
down faster. I found this really helped Zander, since he was also vomiting all 
the time (including after I would spend an hour getting him to eat or syringe 
feeding him baby food). The apometoclopromide is given a little bit before 
feeding, and it worked like a charm. Once I started giving it to him, the 
vomiting stopped and stool started coming out of him normally.

Sadly, however, the meds haven’t worked for everyone. It could be how advanced 
the condition is before the meds are started, and there is also information 
online that they have identified a number of strains of the FeLV virus. I 
suspect that this might also account for the fact that some of us see a great 
improvement in our cats, while others don’t. I’m crossing my fingers for you 
and I am very happy that you have a supportive vet. That is often the first big 
problem, so thankfully, this isn’t an issue you must also deal with.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri 
Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 1:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom

Hi everyone! I just joined your board today but I have been reading some of 
your posts since last week.

About 2 months ago we adopted our first FELV cat Violet. 2 weeks later we also 
adopted her brother Mo. They are amazing, sweet, affectionate cats and we love 
them so much!

Vi is eating every thing in sight, healthy, happy and very playful but poor Mo 
has really struggled. He lost an eye at 4 months old and is only 5.5lbs. He had 
a respiratory infection and teeth pulled before he came home with us. The 
rescue told us they didn't think he had long to live but wanted him to have a 
home if we would take him.

Fast forward 6 weeks and he's been back to their vet twice for tooth roots and 
non healing gums and to ours when he was obviously in terrible pain while 
eating. She found sores on his palate and ran bloodwork to check for anemia. I 
got the bad news last Thurs that he is severely anemic and there is nothing we 
can do beyond what we were doing (clavamox, prednisone, buprenorphine) and I 
was devastated... until I finally came across your archives in an exhaustive 
search on Friday.

First, thank you all for sharing, we would have no hope for sweet Mo if it 
weren't for you. I talked to his vet Sat who hadn't heard of using Winstrol. 
She agreed to at least switch him to Doxy and research it. I was shocked 
Yesterday to get

[Felvtalk] YAY 4 HOPE

2017-04-05 Thread Jennifer Olson
Mo & Vi & you are in my prayers!
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[Felvtalk] New FELV mom

2017-04-05 Thread Sheri Burbridge
Hi everyone! I just joined your board today but I have been reading some of
your posts since last week.

About 2 months ago we adopted our first FELV cat Violet. 2 weeks later we
also adopted her brother Mo. They are amazing, sweet, affectionate cats and
we love them so much!

Vi is eating every thing in sight, healthy, happy and very playful but poor
Mo has really struggled. He lost an eye at 4 months old and is only 5.5lbs.
He had a respiratory infection and teeth pulled before he came home with
us. The rescue told us they didn't think he had long to live but wanted him
to have a home if we would take him.

Fast forward 6 weeks and he's been back to their vet twice for tooth roots
and non healing gums and to ours when he was obviously in terrible pain
while eating. She found sores on his palate and ran bloodwork to check for
anemia. I got the bad news last Thurs that he is severely anemic and there
is nothing we can do beyond what we were doing (clavamox, prednisone,
buprenorphine) and I was devastated... until I finally came across your
archives in an exhaustive search on Friday.

First, thank you all for sharing, we would have no hope for sweet Mo if it
weren't for you. I talked to his vet Sat who hadn't heard of using
Winstrol. She agreed to at least switch him to Doxy and research it. I was
shocked Yesterday to get a call from her saying she would prescribe it for
me!!

Luckily, she was having the Doxy compound into a liquid for me and after
calling all over, that pharmacy was able to order the Stanozolol. I was
able to add the steroid to our Doxy/Pred that we were already doing.

I just wanted to ask everyone what their experience has been with this. I
know some saw great results, others, not so much. Today Mo was very
lethargic and wouldn't eat in the AM but when I came home at lunch he ate
quite a bit (for him).

His number was 10 last week (I'm not sure if that's just rbc's or not) so I
hope I was able to get him the meds in time.

Thank you again for the info, it's the only thing that has given me hope to
save Mo!

Sheri
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