Re: [Felvtalk] Studies
RE: your last paragraph We need to exist only on synthetic food produced by chemicals and Monsanto and their friends. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I noticed something about humans that is unique to our species. We seem to have an endless ability to purposely misunderstand what is being said or proposed. And we put absolute faith in studies. As the secretary of an animal rights organization, a genuine 501 c-3, I have been asked why I was advocating that animals be given the same benefits as humans and wouldn't that be terribly expensive. Duh? I think these people were mostly worried about their own right to eat cows, chickens, sheep, pigs, turkeys, and other edible beings. But I even hear, on occasion that animal rights advocates want there to be some form of education for animals and that if we have our way, there would eventually be no more animals on Earth because we are against ;breeding dogs and cats, etc.. Really! And when I happened to mention animal welfare, I got the response that there are enough lazy people on welfare, we don't need to put animals on welfare in addition. Welcome to the Twilight Zoned Out. OK. I feel it necessary to clear up all these misconceptions with a name change. From now on I will tell people I am an Animal Advocate. That means that I speak up for animals. Right? Except in UK where it would mean that an animal can hire me as a lawyer. I also seem to have read somewhere that rats, mice, voles, etc. reproduce, much as any other mammal does. A study shows that if the entire New York Sewer system was emptied of rats and mice and a few alligators, if a male and female rat and a male and female mouse were to be placed there on January 1, in just under a year, the entire New York Sewer system would have the same number of rodents as it had before. This study is based on absolutely no verifiable research, and is simply a product of an over-active imagination. As is the study that cats kill BILLIONS of small mammals and birds each year. I need a cup of coffee. Uh, no. Last study I read, coffee was not good for the health. But that was refuted by the former study that it is good for the health and can prevent senility. However, I can't have a sandwich any more because whole wheat or any wheat, oats, bananas, orange juice, and most food is a health hazard, except for animal based food I guess because I haven't seen any studies recently to prove that animal protein is harmful and the myth of clogged arteries from animal fat has been debunked, rebunked and debunked again. I'm down to eating floor dust. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Alev alev_dur...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] War on Cats and Others Lee, I couldnt agree more, thank you for this email, I will never stop talking about animal rights to people, take care Sent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: There is so much nonsense, mythology and prejudice going around when it comes to diseases in general, whether cat, dog or human that it's a wonder any of us survive the ignorance rather than the disease. An acquaintance of mine was told by a licensed veterinarian that she needed to have her healthy FIV+ cat euthanized because humans can catch it from cats. Meow? My tenant, when I had a rent house, insisted that FIV was highly contagious but FeLv was NOT. Tail backwards. People to this day refuse to hug a person who is living with HIV but will shake hands with someone who has a horrid head cold and get all chummy with people who are coughing all over the air. Many veterinarians seem not to like cats to the point of finding reasons to put them to death. Others are simply too lazy to study new theories of medicine. In some cases, we have not traveled more than inches away from dancing around the bonfire to banish evil spirits as a cure for illness. Finally, we are now being treated to amazingly inflated statistics from almost comic studies that produced the startling news that cats kill rats and mice. Who would have thought!! Not just some rats and mice but toss in moles, voles and gophers, not to mention those things with wings that mostly fly. Stir with a hefty dose of sensationalism due to a slow news day, and you come up with BILLIONS of small mammals and birds being slaughtered and exterminated by feral cats. Please don't mention though that humans have hunted dozens of species to extinction just to have a head to hang on the wall or a rug for the floor, or as a way to stop male sexual dysfunction, or to carve into little statues or furniture (elephants) or just as a lovely delicacy to eat at a way overpriced fancy restaurant. (shark fin soup and other disgusting
[Felvtalk] Studies
I noticed something about humans that is unique to our species. We seem to have an endless ability to purposely misunderstand what is being said or proposed. And we put absolute faith in studies. As the secretary of an animal rights organization, a genuine 501 c-3, I have been asked why I was advocating that animals be given the same benefits as humans and wouldn't that be terribly expensive. Duh? I think these people were mostly worried about their own right to eat cows, chickens, sheep, pigs, turkeys, and other edible beings. But I even hear, on occasion that animal rights advocates want there to be some form of education for animals and that if we have our way, there would eventually be no more animals on Earth because we are against ;breeding dogs and cats, etc.. Really! And when I happened to mention animal welfare, I got the response that there are enough lazy people on welfare, we don't need to put animals on welfare in addition. Welcome to the Twilight Zoned Out. OK. I feel it necessary to clear up all these misconceptions with a name change. From now on I will tell people I am an Animal Advocate. That means that I speak up for animals. Right? Except in UK where it would mean that an animal can hire me as a lawyer. I also seem to have read somewhere that rats, mice, voles, etc. reproduce, much as any other mammal does. A study shows that if the entire New York Sewer system was emptied of rats and mice and a few alligators, if a male and female rat and a male and female mouse were to be placed there on January 1, in just under a year, the entire New York Sewer system would have the same number of rodents as it had before. This study is based on absolutely no verifiable research, and is simply a product of an over-active imagination. As is the study that cats kill BILLIONS of small mammals and birds each year. I need a cup of coffee. Uh, no. Last study I read, coffee was not good for the health. But that was refuted by the former study that it is good for the health and can prevent senility. However, I can't have a sandwich any more because whole wheat or any wheat, oats, bananas, orange juice, and most food is a health hazard, except for animal based food I guess because I haven't seen any studies recently to prove that animal protein is harmful and the myth of clogged arteries from animal fat has been debunked, rebunked and debunked again. I'm down to eating floor dust. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Alev alev_dur...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] War on Cats and Others Lee, I couldnt agree more, thank you for this email, I will never stop talking about animal rights to people, take care Sent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: There is so much nonsense, mythology and prejudice going around when it comes to diseases in general, whether cat, dog or human that it's a wonder any of us survive the ignorance rather than the disease. An acquaintance of mine was told by a licensed veterinarian that she needed to have her healthy FIV+ cat euthanized because humans can catch it from cats. Meow? My tenant, when I had a rent house, insisted that FIV was highly contagious but FeLv was NOT. Tail backwards. People to this day refuse to hug a person who is living with HIV but will shake hands with someone who has a horrid head cold and get all chummy with people who are coughing all over the air. Many veterinarians seem not to like cats to the point of finding reasons to put them to death. Others are simply too lazy to study new theories of medicine. In some cases, we have not traveled more than inches away from dancing around the bonfire to banish evil spirits as a cure for illness. Finally, we are now being treated to amazingly inflated statistics from almost comic studies that produced the startling news that cats kill rats and mice. Who would have thought!! Not just some rats and mice but toss in moles, voles and gophers, not to mention those things with wings that mostly fly. Stir with a hefty dose of sensationalism due to a slow news day, and you come up with BILLIONS of small mammals and birds being slaughtered and exterminated by feral cats. Please don't mention though that humans have hunted dozens of species to extinction just to have a head to hang on the wall or a rug for the floor, or as a way to stop male sexual dysfunction, or to carve into little statues or furniture (elephants) or just as a lovely delicacy to eat at a way overpriced fancy restaurant. (shark fin soup and other disgusting dishes). Sometimes it seems like humans will kill everything from snails to whales for the most trivial or ridiculous reason. However, just let it be known that cats kill mice and
Re: [Felvtalk] Studies
Hey Lee, Somebody posted on fb that, in a zoo somewhere in Norway- I think- there is a cave and the name plate on it says the most dangerous predator lives here and inside, there are just mirrors... I never liked people who don't like animals but now I detest them-And I found out that not every pet owner really care for animals either...I still have been calling places to find a way to make myself heard about killing animals unneccasserily, they say unless they were not killed by steel pipes, or kicked to death killing them is OK, because it is humane...I see nothing humane in killing helpless animals. And I am not even talking about-yet-the animals grown for us to eat-The good news is, the lady who very casually told me that they put her to sleep stepped down... I am not sure if my complaint was the reason but I am glad. I hope next person is better than her but either way I will not stop badgering people about animal rights. Yes everything we eat, drink have many chemicals, try to avoid as much as you can and eat less, at least you consume less chemicals this way:) I have to go now, I have a job interview tomorrow and I am so nervous. Take care, Alev PS: You are working in an animal shelter right? Am I mistaken? From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 3:56 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Studies I noticed something about humans that is unique to our species. We seem to have an endless ability to purposely misunderstand what is being said or proposed. And we put absolute faith in studies. As the secretary of an animal rights organization, a genuine 501 c-3, I have been asked why I was advocating that animals be given the same benefits as humans and wouldn't that be terribly expensive. Duh? I think these people were mostly worried about their own right to eat cows, chickens, sheep, pigs, turkeys, and other edible beings. But I even hear, on occasion that animal rights advocates want there to be some form of education for animals and that if we have our way, there would eventually be no more animals on Earth because we are against ;breeding dogs and cats, etc.. Really! And when I happened to mention animal welfare, I got the response that there are enough lazy people on welfare, we don't need to put animals on welfare in addition. Welcome to the Twilight Zoned Out. OK. I feel it necessary to clear up all these misconceptions with a name change. From now on I will tell people I am an Animal Advocate. That means that I speak up for animals. Right? Except in UK where it would mean that an animal can hire me as a lawyer. I also seem to have read somewhere that rats, mice, voles, etc. reproduce, much as any other mammal does. A study shows that if the entire New York Sewer system was emptied of rats and mice and a few alligators, if a male and female rat and a male and female mouse were to be placed there on January 1, in just under a year, the entire New York Sewer system would have the same number of rodents as it had before. This study is based on absolutely no verifiable research, and is simply a product of an over-active imagination. As is the study that cats kill BILLIONS of small mammals and birds each year. I need a cup of coffee. Uh, no. Last study I read, coffee was not good for the health. But that was refuted by the former study that it is good for the health and can prevent senility. However, I can't have a sandwich any more because whole wheat or any wheat, oats, bananas, orange juice, and most food is a health hazard, except for animal based food I guess because I haven't seen any studies recently to prove that animal protein is harmful and the myth of clogged arteries from animal fat has been debunked, rebunked and debunked again. I'm down to eating floor dust. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Alev alev_dur...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] War on Cats and Others Lee, I couldnt agree more, thank you for this email, I will never stop talking about animal rights to people, take care Sent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: There is so much nonsense, mythology and prejudice going around when it comes to diseases in general, whether cat, dog or human that it's a wonder any of us survive the ignorance rather than the disease. An acquaintance of mine was told by a licensed veterinarian that she needed to have her healthy FIV+ cat euthanized because humans can catch it from cats. Meow? My tenant, when I had a rent house, insisted that FIV was highly contagious but FeLv was NOT. Tail backwards. People to this day refuse to hug a person who is living with HIV