Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem, hyper-t leads to crf?

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
oh n!! that is NOT what i want to hear! 
 I hope shaft doesn't have crf too.  I don't know if they even ran a cbc on him 
or just the thyroid panel. i'll find out tomorrow. ughhh.

Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Debbie, if your vet doesn't think 
cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately need to find a new vet.  Here is 
a link to more info.
  http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.html
Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds.  Some 
will be candidates for radiotherapy.  Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF 
after the thyroid issues are resolved.  Hyper T tends to hide CRF.
  Sharyl
  
--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:52 PM

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FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid??? 
 It is what I suspected with my Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get 
thatI tried to argue the point, but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!


  
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  Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem

  My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
   
  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
   
  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
   
  t

  
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem hyper-t

2008-07-20 Thread catatonya
I just checked the last site given and it says it's best to medicate twice a 
day rather than once maybe that's why he's not doing so well.  Maybe I'll 
go with the compounding gel for the ear.  Or maybe we're just not giving 
enough.  His muscle mass is just gone.  He has suffered from skin allergies and 
sneezing fits which I have NOT noticed since he's been on the tapazole now that 
I think of it.   Lots to learn.
  t

Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Our 19 year old was diagnosed with this almost a year ago.  He hasn't 
gained any weight back from what I can tell but he had suffered from itchy skin 
which has resolved since putting him on medication.  He has very little muscle 
mass on him and is generally having issues associated with being very old: 
senility, deafness etc, but we think being on thyroid medication has helped him 
a lot.  We have the pharmacy make it into a transdermal which is easily given 
to him inside his ears.  He thinks he's getting an ear massage and enjoys it.  
As for it not being as effective, our vet felt the pills would be better, but 
the pharmacist explained to me the difference between the two and in her 
opinion the transdermal way is more effective.  She's an aminal pharmacist as 
well as a human one so I trust her.  I divide the dose in two and give it to 
him twice a day.  
   
  Lynne
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  From: Diane Rosenfeldt 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
  

  LOL, MC!  But absolutely correctamundo.  At one point we had two hyper-t 
cats, and they took the same pills (tapezole/methimazole) in different dosages. 
 We used to keep whole, half and quarter pills pre-cut in 3 separate pill 
bottles.  Pill splitting day was like an exercise in higher math...  I can't 
imagine a vet not knowing about hyper-t in cats!!  But the upside is it's 
pretty treatable and the pills aren't outrageously expensive, if you go the 
pill route.  I understand it can also be compounded into a cream and rubbed 
onto their ears but my vet doesn't think it's as effective that way.
   
  Diane R.


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MaryChristine
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


  
  okay, everyone, in harmony now, GET A NEW VET!

it's a major problem now that cats are living long enough for it to manifest! 
if you like the vet, keep him for vaccinations and things, but if he doesn't 
know about this yet, he's not whom you need for your dear.

as ever, objectively yours,

MC



  On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my 
Baby Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the 
point, but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!


  
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  Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem



My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been 
so sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
   
  Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
   
  Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I 
am quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
   
  t



  
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Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem, hyper-t leads to crf?

2008-07-20 Thread Sharyl
Didn't mean to upset you but wanted to give you a heads up.  I haven't dealt 
with hyper-t but have read that many apply the meds via a cream on the ear.  
Some say the dose isn't as exact but if Shaft is so anti-pilling it might be a 
better alternative for you.
Sharyl

--- On Sun, 7/20/08, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem, hyper-t leads to crf?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 10:37 AM


oh n!! that is NOT what i want to 
hear!  I hope shaft doesn't have crf too.  I don't know if they even ran a cbc 
on him or just the thyroid panel. i'll find out tomorrow. ughhh.

Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 





Debbie, if your vet doesn't think cats get hyperthyroidism then you desperately 
need to find a new vet.  Here is a link to more info.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/thyroid.html
Most folks start out treating with meds to see how the cats responds.  Some 
will be candidates for radiotherapy.  Be aware that may cats are dx with CRF 
after the thyroid issues are resolved.  Hyper T tends to hide CRF.
Sharyl

--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:52 PM



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Question...is hyper-t hyper thyroid???  It is what I suspected with my Baby 
Ruben...but the vet says cats don't get thatI tried to argue the point, 
but she wouldn't listen...

Debbie (COL)
You gotta bloom where you're planted!




Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:26:08 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] ot-next problem


My cat Shaft has lost nearly half his body weight.  Everyone here has been so 
sick I just didn't realize it until a few weeks ago (a few days before I was 
leaving for a week's vacation).  I got him into the vet suspecting hyper-t as 
soon as I got back.  That's what it was.  The vet detected a heart murmer as 
well.  He is an estimated 18 years old.  He had a fever and the vet put him on 
some amoxy for that, as well as the tapazole, of course.
 
Problem.  He now hides and I have to chase him around to get any med.s down 
him.  I've given up on everything except the tapazole and he still hides.  
Should I stress him out with the chase down?  Crate him for a while?  He 
doesn't seem to be gaining ANY weight, and I have an appt. with vet again on 
Monday.  We were supposed to wait a month, but he's getting worse, not better.
 
Does anyone have the link to join the hyper-t group or any other advice?  I am 
quickly losing my mind. la la la la.
 
t


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