Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Hi, I use Advantage in stead of Revolution unless my cats have ear mites. My vet will not carrie Revolution because of the amount of chemicals in it. To save money with the Advantage use the dog size with a syringe, without the needle, and apply the amount required for the weight of the cat
RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Title: Message Loki is one fortunate little guy to have you care for him, Steve. Bless you for everything you do for him. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve WilliamsSent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:21 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Hi Nina, When Loki and crew were found about 10 days old, he--the runt--especially was covered with fleas. My niece, Alisha, almost threw-up after seeing him absolutely covered with horrid monsters. They did use some toxic treatment to fix the problem. Loki was almost completely despondent, for the fleas sucking the life from him. After the fleas were eradicated, he suddenly sprang back to life with a vengeance! It brings a tear just thinking about it. Now, Loki at 9 months old has outlived all three of his siblings. Here is my theory... and I maybe total off here: It seems to me that the tiny baby kitties do not die in babyhood. It is only after they have lived months of their lives that FeLV symptoms occur. Therefore, I think they can handle certain treatments (at lesser kitten dosages of course) that are much more risky later on. I feel that if I can avoid giving my older 9 month old kitty toxins, that may or may not trigger the virus, I absolutely will. The comb right now is God to me. It is working, and I am happy again. I would recommend it to everyone who is able to comb their kitties. I recognize there are many reasons this is not possible. I now only have the one kitty and can lavish combing attention on him, so I have no reason to entertain any other solutions. I appreciate hearing of your experiences, and it will help many to know this. Thank you. Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of NinaSent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 12:21 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing upSteve,I've been away from the computer for a while, so this may no longer be timely. When I found my FeLV bottle babies (didn't know it at the time), they were just over 2 weeks old. They were so infested with fleas that they were bloody from them. At that very tender age I used just a tiny amount of Advantage on them. I put some Advantage on a Q-Tip and touched the back of their necks with it. That was all that was needed to get rid of the fleas and the kittens showed no ill effects. I know it's scary putting toxic stuff on our babies, but sometimes the alternative is worse. I have since switched to Revolution for controlling fleas because it's alcohol based (instead of oil) and doesn't seem to upset my animals as much as the Advantage. Revolution also claims to control ear mites and get rid of roundworms. I never use a full tube, even on the adults. I find I can stretch a tube between 3 or 4 cats and it seems just as effective with out having to douse them in poison. Here's the link to Pet Shed were I order my Revolution, I also get Drontal (worm med) from them w/o a prescription. http://www.petshed.com/NinaSteve Williams wrote: Cherie, I'm kind of afraid to use Advantage or Frontline with a kitten who has had FeLV+ from birth. Maybe I'm overreacting, but my recent loss of Leeloo, with the stress of a leg sprain causing onset, has got me trigger-shy. It is hard for me to impose the tiniest bit of toxic substance or stress on Loki. I think I will try some natural supplements, diligent combing and cleaning. But... I want those fleas gone now! I'm going to try to find boric acid to sprinkle on the carpets also. Has anyone used Advantage or Frontline on kittens with FeLV from birth? Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cherie A GabbertSent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, My cats deal really well with Advantage, and it is topical that goes behind the neck. Cherie Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kerry, Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of him, and can find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots. Thanks, Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, sorry to ask this-
Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Steve,
I agree with you, the comb sounds like the right solution for you
guys. I think you are absolutely right about not using toxins. If
there is an alternative that will work, it makes perfect sense to take
the gentlest route.
Isn't it strange how the "runts" sometimes turn out to be the strongest
in the litter? My Tim was so tiny, (partly how he got his name, and
also because he seemed to say, "God bless us every one!). We were so
worried that he wouldn't make it, and he's the one that has tested
negative.
You've given me such a nice image of you lovingly and painstakingly
combing the fleas from Loki's coat. Loki is one lucky kitty to have
such a wonderful human companion, bless you both.
Nina
Steve Williams wrote:
Hi Nina,
When Loki and crew were found about 10 days old,
he--the runt--especially was covered with fleas. My niece, Alisha,
almost threw-up after seeing him absolutely covered with horrid
monsters. They did use some toxic treatment to fix the problem. Loki
was almost completely despondent, for the fleas sucking the life from
him. After the fleas were eradicated, he suddenly sprang back to life
with a vengeance! It brings a tear just thinking about it. Now, Loki
at 9 months old has outlived all three of his siblings.
Here is my theory... and I maybe total off
here: It seems to me that the tiny baby kitties do not die in
babyhood. It is only after they have lived months of their lives that
FeLV symptoms occur. Therefore, I think they can handle certain
treatments (at lesser kitten dosages of course) that are much more
risky later on.
I feel that if I can avoid giving my older 9
month old kitty toxins, that may or may not trigger the virus, I
absolutely will.
The comb right now is God to me. It is working,
and I am happy again. I would recommend it to everyone who is able to
comb their kitties. I recognize there are many reasons this is not
possible. I now only have the one kitty and can lavish combing
attention on him, so I have no reason to entertain any other solutions.
I appreciate hearing of your experiences, and it
will help many to know this.
Thank you.
Steve
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 12:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Steve,
I've been away from the computer for a while, so this may no longer be
timely. When I found my FeLV bottle babies (didn't know it at the
time), they were just over 2 weeks old. They were so infested with
fleas that they were bloody from them. At that very tender age I used
just a tiny amount of Advantage on them. I put some Advantage on a
Q-Tip and touched the back of their necks with it. That was all that
was needed to get rid of the fleas and the kittens showed no ill
effects. I know it's scary putting toxic stuff on our babies, but
sometimes the alternative is worse. I have since switched to
Revolution for controlling fleas because it's alcohol based (instead of
oil) and doesn't seem to upset my animals as much as the Advantage.
Revolution also claims to control ear mites and get rid of roundworms.
I never use a full tube, even on the adults. I find I can stretch a
tube between 3 or 4 cats and it seems just as effective with out having
to douse them in poison. Here's the link to Pet Shed were I order my
Revolution, I also get Drontal (worm med) from them w/o a
prescription. http://www.petshed.com/
Nina
Steve Williams wrote:
Cherie,
I'm kind of afraid to use Advantage or Frontline
with a kitten who has had FeLV+ from birth. Maybe I'm overreacting,
but my recent loss of Leeloo, with the stress of a leg sprain causing
onset, has got me trigger-shy. It is hard for me to impose the tiniest
bit of toxic substance or stress on Loki. I think I will try some
natural supplements, diligent combing and cleaning. But... I want
those fleas gone now! I'm going to try to find boric acid to sprinkle
on the carpets also.
Has anyone used Advantage or Frontline on
kittens with FeLV from birth?
Steve
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Cherie A Gabbert
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:47 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Steve,
My cats deal really well with Advantage, and it is topical
that goes behind the neck.
Cherie
Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Kerry,
Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs
are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him
RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Hi Nina, When Loki and crew were found about 10 days old, he--the runt--especially was covered with fleas. My niece, Alisha, almost threw-up after seeing him absolutely covered with horrid monsters. They did use some toxic treatment to fix the problem. Loki was almost completely despondent, for the fleas sucking the life from him. After the fleas were eradicated, he suddenly sprang back to life with a vengeance! It brings a tear just thinking about it. Now, Loki at 9 months old has outlived all three of his siblings. Here is my theory... and I maybe total off here: It seems to me that the tiny baby kitties do not die in babyhood. It is only after they have lived months of their lives that FeLV symptoms occur. Therefore, I think they can handle certain treatments (at lesser kitten dosages of course) that are much more risky later on. I feel that if I can avoid giving my older 9 month old kitty toxins, that may or may not trigger the virus, I absolutely will. The comb right now is God to me. It is working, and I am happy again. I would recommend it to everyone who is able to comb their kitties. I recognize there are many reasons this is not possible. I now only have the one kitty and can lavish combing attention on him, so I have no reason to entertain any other solutions. I appreciate hearing of your experiences, and it will help many to know this. Thank you. Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of NinaSent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 12:21 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing upSteve,I've been away from the computer for a while, so this may no longer be timely. When I found my FeLV bottle babies (didn't know it at the time), they were just over 2 weeks old. They were so infested with fleas that they were bloody from them. At that very tender age I used just a tiny amount of Advantage on them. I put some Advantage on a Q-Tip and touched the back of their necks with it. That was all that was needed to get rid of the fleas and the kittens showed no ill effects. I know it's scary putting toxic stuff on our babies, but sometimes the alternative is worse. I have since switched to Revolution for controlling fleas because it's alcohol based (instead of oil) and doesn't seem to upset my animals as much as the Advantage. Revolution also claims to control ear mites and get rid of roundworms. I never use a full tube, even on the adults. I find I can stretch a tube between 3 or 4 cats and it seems just as effective with out having to douse them in poison. Here's the link to Pet Shed were I order my Revolution, I also get Drontal (worm med) from them w/o a prescription. http://www.petshed.com/NinaSteve Williams wrote: Cherie, I'm kind of afraid to use Advantage or Frontline with a kitten who has had FeLV+ from birth. Maybe I'm overreacting, but my recent loss of Leeloo, with the stress of a leg sprain causing onset, has got me trigger-shy. It is hard for me to impose the tiniest bit of toxic substance or stress on Loki. I think I will try some natural supplements, diligent combing and cleaning. But... I want those fleas gone now! I'm going to try to find boric acid to sprinkle on the carpets also. Has anyone used Advantage or Frontline on kittens with FeLV from birth? Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cherie A GabbertSent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, My cats deal really well with Advantage, and it is topical that goes behind the neck. Cherie Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kerry, Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of him, and can find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots. Thanks, Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb Q--but do you know for sure that fleas are the source of Loki's scratching? After Levi began scratching frequently I put a humidifier in the room on the advice of group members. When the vet came, she examined him and said she was "not conc
Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Steve,
I've been away from the computer for a while, so this may no longer be
timely. When I found my FeLV bottle babies (didn't know it at the
time), they were just over 2 weeks old. They were so infested with
fleas that they were bloody from them. At that very tender age I used
just a tiny amount of Advantage on them. I put some Advantage on a
Q-Tip and touched the back of their necks with it. That was all that
was needed to get rid of the fleas and the kittens showed no ill
effects. I know it's scary putting toxic stuff on our babies, but
sometimes the alternative is worse. I have since switched to
Revolution for controlling fleas because it's alcohol based (instead of
oil) and doesn't seem to upset my animals as much as the Advantage.
Revolution also claims to control ear mites and get rid of roundworms.
I never use a full tube, even on the adults. I find I can stretch a
tube between 3 or 4 cats and it seems just as effective with out having
to douse them in poison. Here's the link to Pet Shed were I order my
Revolution, I also get Drontal (worm med) from them w/o a
prescription. http://www.petshed.com/
Nina
Steve Williams wrote:
Cherie,
I'm kind of afraid to use Advantage or Frontline
with a kitten who has had FeLV+ from birth. Maybe I'm overreacting,
but my recent loss of Leeloo, with the stress of a leg sprain causing
onset, has got me trigger-shy. It is hard for me to impose the tiniest
bit of toxic substance or stress on Loki. I think I will try some
natural supplements, diligent combing and cleaning. But... I want
those fleas gone now! I'm going to try to find boric acid to sprinkle
on the carpets also.
Has anyone used Advantage or Frontline on
kittens with FeLV from birth?
Steve
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cherie
A Gabbert
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:47 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Steve,
My cats deal really well with Advantage, and it is topical
that goes behind the neck.
Cherie
Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kerry,
Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs
are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of
him, and can find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots.
Thanks,
Steve
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb
Q--but do you know for sure that fleas are the source of Loki's
scratching?
After Levi began scratching frequently I put a
humidifier in the room on the advice of group members.
When the vet came, she examined him and said she
was "not concerned" about the scratching. The humidifier did seem to
reduce the incidence of scratching among the cats in general.
I hope hairballs were also the source of the
throwing up. Kerry
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steve
Williams
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Recently, Loki has gotten fleas. He
scratches a lot, but it doesn't seem overwhelming. I don't see any in
the house, but will start a good cleaning/vacuuming regiment. I bought
a flee comb, but will of course do more. Does anyone have advice on
best course of action for a 9 month old FeLV+ kitty? I will also go to
the vet for any prescribed treatment, but don't want to cause him a
speck of stress with treatment. My vet is very good in this regard
since he is opposed to poisonous stuff.
For the past three days Loki has been
throwing up in the early evenings. He is eating normally otherwise and
this doesn't seem to faze him too much. Our feeding regiment for him
has not changed. His supplements are L-Lysine and Vitamin C, which he
has been give for many months. His throwing up seems to occur sometime
after he has his wet food with supplements in the early afternoon
(4pm-ish). Any advice or comments?
Even though he is fine otherwise, this is
causing me very much anxiety.
Thanks for any advice.
Steve
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RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Tonya,
No I
do not have a dog and we keep Loki inside. I let him out on the deck (2nd
story) when the weather is good.
I have
been using a bowl of water with a few drops of dishwashing liquid in it to dip
the comb in. This seems to work great. As Sally said, "the surfacants in the detergent smother and kill the
fleas".
Thanks
so much. I think it will take less than a week because... I am on it!
:-)
Steve
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
catatonyaSent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:58 PMTo:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas,
throwing up
Steve,
You need to comb for the fleas every day and get rid of them. Fleas
cause anemia which you certainly DON'T want to deal with in a positive
cat. When I comb for fleas I usually soak a cottonball in alcohol and
poor a little alcohol into a plastic cup. If one is 'too fast' for me I
put the cottonball on it and it 'stuns' it for me to pick it up and put it in
the cup. It takes maybe a week and you should be able to get them
all. That's IF no one's going in and out bringing them in. Do you
have a dog?
tonyaSteve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Kerry,
Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs are there: I
can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of him, and can find
lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots.
Thanks,
Steve
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AMTo:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas,
throwing up
Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb Q--but do you know for
sure that fleas are the source of Loki's scratching?
After Levi began scratching frequently I put a humidifier
in the room on the advice of group members.
When the vet came, she examined him and said she was "not
concerned" about the scratching. The humidifier did seem to reduce the
incidence of scratching among the cats in general.
I hope hairballs were also the source of the throwing up.
Kerry
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
WilliamsSent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:15 PMTo:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Loki Advice: fleas,
throwing up
Recently, Loki
has gotten fleas. He scratches a lot, but it doesn't seem
overwhelming. I don't see any in the house, but will start a good
cleaning/vacuuming regiment. I bought a flee comb, but will of
course do more. Does anyone have advice on best course of action for a 9
month old FeLV+ kitty? I will also go to the vet for any prescribed
treatment, but don't want to cause him a speck of stress
with treatment. My vet is very good in this regard since he is
opposed to poisonous stuff.
For the past
three days Loki has been throwing up in the early evenings. He is
eating normally otherwise and this doesn't seem to faze him too
much. Our feeding regiment for him has not changed. His
supplements are L-Lysine and Vitamin C, which he has been give for many
months. His throwing up seems to occur sometime after he has his wet
food with supplements in the early afternoon (4pm-ish). Any advice
or comments?
Even though he
is fine otherwise, this is causing me very much
anxiety.
Thanks for any
advice.
SteveThis email and any files
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RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
I've always just combed my positives. It works. But, as I said, if you've got a dog that's going in and out you're not ever going to totally get rid of them. So you might want to consider something. Check with your vet about which is the least toxic to use if you go that route. There are some my vet refuses to use... Of course, right now I can't remember which ones. tonyaSteve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cherie, I'm kind of afraid to use Advantage or Frontline with a kitten who has had FeLV+ from birth. Maybe I'm overreacting, but my recent loss of Leeloo, with the stress of a leg sprain causing onset, has got me trigger-shy. It is hard for me to impose the tiniest bit of toxic substance or stress on Loki. I think I will try some natural supplements, diligent combing and cleaning. But... I want those fleas gone now! I'm going to try to find boric acid to sprinkle on the carpets also. Has anyone used Advantage or Frontline on kittens with FeLV from birth? Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Cherie A GabbertSent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, My cats deal really well with Advantage, and it is topical that goes behind the neck. Cherie Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kerry, Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of him, and can find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots. Thanks, Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb Q--but do you know for sure that fleas are the source of Loki's scratching? After Levi began scratching frequently I put a humidifier in the room on the advice of group members. When the vet came, she examined him and said she was "not concerned" about the scratching. The humidifier did seem to reduce the incidence of scratching among the cats in general. I hope hairballs were also the source of the throwing up. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve WilliamsSent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:15 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Recently, Loki has gotten fleas. He scratches a lot, but it doesn't seem overwhelming. I don't see any in the house, but will start a good cleaning/vacuuming regiment. I bought a flee comb, but will of course do more. Does anyone have advice on best course of action for a 9 month old FeLV+ kitty? I will also go to the vet for any prescribed treatment, but don't want to cause him a speck of stress with treatment. My vet is very good in this regard since he is opposed to poisonous stuff. For the past three days Loki has been throwing up in the early evenings. He is eating normally otherwise and this doesn't seem to faze him too much. Our feeding regiment for him has not changed. His supplements are L-Lysine and Vitamin C, which he has been give for many months. His throwing up seems to occur sometime after he has his wet food with supplements in the early afternoon (4pm-ish). Any advice or comments? Even though he is fine otherwise, this is causing me very much anxiety. Thanks for any advice. SteveThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Steve, You need to comb for the fleas every day and get rid of them. Fleas cause anemia which you certainly DON'T want to deal with in a positive cat. When I comb for fleas I usually soak a cottonball in alcohol and poor a little alcohol into a plastic cup. If one is 'too fast' for me I put the cottonball on it and it 'stuns' it for me to pick it up and put it in the cup. It takes maybe a week and you should be able to get them all. That's IF no one's going in and out bringing them in. Do you have a dog? tonyaSteve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kerry, Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of him, and can find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots. Thanks, Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb Q--but do you know for sure that fleas are the source of Loki's scratching? After Levi began scratching frequently I put a humidifier in the room on the advice of group members. When the vet came, she examined him and said she was "not concerned" about the scratching. The humidifier did seem to reduce the incidence of scratching among the cats in general. I hope hairballs were also the source of the throwing up. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve WilliamsSent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:15 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Recently, Loki has gotten fleas. He scratches a lot, but it doesn't seem overwhelming. I don't see any in the house, but will start a good cleaning/vacuuming regiment. I bought a flee comb, but will of course do more. Does anyone have advice on best course of action for a 9 month old FeLV+ kitty? I will also go to the vet for any prescribed treatment, but don't want to cause him a speck of stress with treatment. My vet is very good in this regard since he is opposed to poisonous stuff. For the past three days Loki has been throwing up in the early evenings. He is eating normally otherwise and this doesn't seem to faze him too much. Our feeding regiment for him has not changed. His supplements are L-Lysine and Vitamin C, which he has been give for many months. His throwing up seems to occur sometime after he has his wet food with supplements in the early afternoon (4pm-ish). Any advice or comments? Even though he is fine otherwise, this is causing me very much anxiety. Thanks for any advice. SteveThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
In a message dated 2/28/2005 11:33:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone used Advantage or Frontline on kittens with FeLV from birth? Steve Yes, I have and they had no side effects from it. Of course they didn't get full doses either until they became adults. I think whatever you feel comfortable with is the way to go. You will find most of us vary in opinions on this. Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted soon.http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/ <><>
Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Hi Steve
My 1st FeLV+ kitties that I brought home were loaded with fleas to the
extent that there hair was falling out and dehydration...They got
Advantage treatment before they were even tested...
One was about 3 months old and the other was about 12 years and the
older one was taking care of the kitten but it wasn't hers...
Anyway they are still doing well 2 years later and 4 others that were
in much better condition when I brought them home have died
Fleas can and do kill and also will bring the kittens strength down to
the point that FeLV+ will step in...
Getting rid of the fleas is the 1st emergency !!!
I would go with Advantage...
Tad
Steve Williams wrote:
Cherie,
I'm kind of afraid to use Advantage or
Frontline with a kitten who has had FeLV+ from birth. Maybe I'm
overreacting, but my recent loss of Leeloo, with the stress of a leg
sprain causing onset, has got me trigger-shy. It is hard for me to
impose the tiniest bit of toxic substance or stress on Loki. I think I
will try some natural supplements, diligent combing and cleaning.
But... I want those fleas gone now! I'm going to try to find boric
acid to sprinkle on the carpets also.
Has anyone used Advantage or Frontline on
kittens with FeLV from birth?
Steve
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cherie
A Gabbert
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:47 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Steve,
My cats deal really well with Advantage, and it is topical
that goes behind the neck.
Cherie
Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kerry,
Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the
signs are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few
off of him, and can find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots.
Thanks,
Steve
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MacKenzie,
Kerry N.
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb
Q--but do you know for sure that fleas are the source of Loki's
scratching?
After Levi began scratching frequently I put
a humidifier in the room on the advice of group members.
When the vet came, she examined him and said
she was "not concerned" about the scratching. The humidifier did seem
to reduce the incidence of scratching among the cats in general.
I hope hairballs were also the source of the
throwing up. Kerry
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steve
Williams
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Recently, Loki has gotten fleas. He
scratches a lot, but it doesn't seem overwhelming. I don't see any in
the house, but will start a good cleaning/vacuuming regiment. I bought
a flee comb, but will of course do more. Does anyone have advice on
best course of action for a 9 month old FeLV+ kitty? I will also go to
the vet for any prescribed treatment, but don't want to cause him a
speck of stress with treatment. My vet is very good in this regard
since he is opposed to poisonous stuff.
For the past three days Loki has been
throwing up in the early evenings. He is eating normally otherwise and
this doesn't seem to faze him too much. Our feeding regiment for him
has not changed. His supplements are L-Lysine and Vitamin C, which he
has been give for many months. His throwing up seems to occur sometime
after he has his wet food with supplements in the early afternoon
(4pm-ish). Any advice or comments?
Even though he is fine otherwise, this is
causing me very much anxiety.
Thanks for any advice.
Steve
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RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Steve, I did use it on my FeLV cat though she was about 1 1/2. CherieSteve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cherie, I'm kind of afraid to use Advantage or Frontline with a kitten who has had FeLV+ from birth. Maybe I'm overreacting, but my recent loss of Leeloo, with the stress of a leg sprain causing onset, has got me trigger-shy. It is hard for me to impose the tiniest bit of toxic substance or stress on Loki. I think I will try some natural supplements, diligent combing and cleaning. But... I want those fleas gone now! I'm going to try to find boric acid to sprinkle on the carpets also. Has anyone used Advantage or Frontline on kittens with FeLV from birth? Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Cherie A GabbertSent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, My cats deal really well with Advantage, and it is topical that goes behind the neck. Cherie Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kerry, Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of him, and can find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots. Thanks, Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb Q--but do you know for sure that fleas are the source of Loki's scratching? After Levi began scratching frequently I put a humidifier in the room on the advice of group members. When the vet came, she examined him and said she was "not concerned" about the scratching. The humidifier did seem to reduce the incidence of scratching among the cats in general. I hope hairballs were also the source of the throwing up. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve WilliamsSent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:15 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Recently, Loki has gotten fleas. He scratches a lot, but it doesn't seem overwhelming. I don't see any in the house, but will start a good cleaning/vacuuming regiment. I bought a flee comb, but will of course do more. Does anyone have advice on best course of action for a 9 month old FeLV+ kitty? I will also go to the vet for any prescribed treatment, but don't want to cause him a speck of stress with treatment. My vet is very good in this regard since he is opposed to poisonous stuff. For the past three days Loki has been throwing up in the early evenings. He is eating normally otherwise and this doesn't seem to faze him too much. Our feeding regiment for him has not changed. His supplements are L-Lysine and Vitamin C, which he has been give for many months. His throwing up seems to occur sometime after he has his wet food with supplements in the early afternoon (4pm-ish). Any advice or comments? Even though he is fine otherwise, this is causing me very much anxiety. Thanks for any advice. SteveThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
I know what you mean, Steve. I wouldn’t personally. My holistic vet strongly goes against using it even with my non FeLV kitties, too. One of my kitties had a very serious skin problem with some type of insects and she had scabs everywhere – and he gave me this natural citrus shampoo – and after washing her (and a couple of others), it cleared up right away – if you are interested, I can ask my holistic vet again (and any other remedies he may recommend) – shampooing a cat is also another challenge and stress – you could even spot the diluted shampoo with gauze or something so that you won’t have to wash the kitty. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Williams Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 12:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Cherie, I'm kind of afraid to use Advantage or Frontline with a kitten who has had FeLV+ from birth. Maybe I'm overreacting, but my recent loss of Leeloo, with the stress of a leg sprain causing onset, has got me trigger-shy. It is hard for me to impose the tiniest bit of toxic substance or stress on Loki. I think I will try some natural supplements, diligent combing and cleaning. But... I want those fleas gone now! I'm going to try to find boric acid to sprinkle on the carpets also. Has anyone used Advantage or Frontline on kittens with FeLV from birth? Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Cherie A Gabbert Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, My cats deal really well with Advantage, and it is topical that goes behind the neck. Cherie Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kerry, Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of him, and can find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots. Thanks, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb Q--but do you know for sure that fleas are the source of Loki's scratching? After Levi began scratching frequently I put a humidifier in the room on the advice of group members. When the vet came, she examined him and said she was "not concerned" about the scratching. The humidifier did seem to reduce the incidence of scratching among the cats in general. I hope hairballs were also the source of the throwing up. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Williams Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Recently, Loki has gotten fleas. He scratches a lot, but it doesn't seem overwhelming. I don't see any in the house, but will start a good cleaning/vacuuming regiment. I bought a flee comb, but will of course do more. Does anyone have advice on best course of action for a 9 month old FeLV+ kitty? I will also go to the vet for any prescribed treatment, but don't want to cause him a speck of stress with treatment. My vet is very good in this regard since he is opposed to poisonous stuff. For the past three days Loki has been throwing up in the early evenings. He is eating normally otherwise and this doesn't seem to faze him too much. Our feeding regiment for him has not changed. His supplements are L-Lysine and Vitamin C, which he has been give for many months. His throwing up seems to occur sometime after he has his wet food with supplements in the early afternoon (4pm-ish). Any advice or comments? Even though he is fine otherwise, this is causing me very much anxiety. Thanks for any advice. Steve This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Cherie, I'm kind of afraid to use Advantage or Frontline with a kitten who has had FeLV+ from birth. Maybe I'm overreacting, but my recent loss of Leeloo, with the stress of a leg sprain causing onset, has got me trigger-shy. It is hard for me to impose the tiniest bit of toxic substance or stress on Loki. I think I will try some natural supplements, diligent combing and cleaning. But... I want those fleas gone now! I'm going to try to find boric acid to sprinkle on the carpets also. Has anyone used Advantage or Frontline on kittens with FeLV from birth? Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Cherie A GabbertSent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:47 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, My cats deal really well with Advantage, and it is topical that goes behind the neck. Cherie Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kerry, Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of him, and can find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots. Thanks, Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb Q--but do you know for sure that fleas are the source of Loki's scratching? After Levi began scratching frequently I put a humidifier in the room on the advice of group members. When the vet came, she examined him and said she was "not concerned" about the scratching. The humidifier did seem to reduce the incidence of scratching among the cats in general. I hope hairballs were also the source of the throwing up. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve WilliamsSent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:15 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Recently, Loki has gotten fleas. He scratches a lot, but it doesn't seem overwhelming. I don't see any in the house, but will start a good cleaning/vacuuming regiment. I bought a flee comb, but will of course do more. Does anyone have advice on best course of action for a 9 month old FeLV+ kitty? I will also go to the vet for any prescribed treatment, but don't want to cause him a speck of stress with treatment. My vet is very good in this regard since he is opposed to poisonous stuff. For the past three days Loki has been throwing up in the early evenings. He is eating normally otherwise and this doesn't seem to faze him too much. Our feeding regiment for him has not changed. His supplements are L-Lysine and Vitamin C, which he has been give for many months. His throwing up seems to occur sometime after he has his wet food with supplements in the early afternoon (4pm-ish). Any advice or comments? Even though he is fine otherwise, this is causing me very much anxiety. Thanks for any advice. SteveThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Steve, My cats deal really well with Advantage, and it is topical that goes behind the neck. Cherie Steve Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kerry, Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of him, and can find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots. Thanks, Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb Q--but do you know for sure that fleas are the source of Loki's scratching? After Levi began scratching frequently I put a humidifier in the room on the advice of group members. When the vet came, she examined him and said she was "not concerned" about the scratching. The humidifier did seem to reduce the incidence of scratching among the cats in general. I hope hairballs were also the source of the throwing up. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve WilliamsSent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:15 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Recently, Loki has gotten fleas. He scratches a lot, but it doesn't seem overwhelming. I don't see any in the house, but will start a good cleaning/vacuuming regiment. I bought a flee comb, but will of course do more. Does anyone have advice on best course of action for a 9 month old FeLV+ kitty? I will also go to the vet for any prescribed treatment, but don't want to cause him a speck of stress with treatment. My vet is very good in this regard since he is opposed to poisonous stuff. For the past three days Loki has been throwing up in the early evenings. He is eating normally otherwise and this doesn't seem to faze him too much. Our feeding regiment for him has not changed. His supplements are L-Lysine and Vitamin C, which he has been give for many months. His throwing up seems to occur sometime after he has his wet food with supplements in the early afternoon (4pm-ish). Any advice or comments? Even though he is fine otherwise, this is causing me very much anxiety. Thanks for any advice. SteveThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Title: Message Kerry, Yes, I know for sure it is fleas. All the signs are there: I can see fleas sometimes on him, I've combed a few off of him, and can find lots of flea poop in his normal sleeping spots. Thanks, Steve -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:08 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb Q--but do you know for sure that fleas are the source of Loki's scratching? After Levi began scratching frequently I put a humidifier in the room on the advice of group members. When the vet came, she examined him and said she was "not concerned" about the scratching. The humidifier did seem to reduce the incidence of scratching among the cats in general. I hope hairballs were also the source of the throwing up. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve WilliamsSent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:15 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Recently, Loki has gotten fleas. He scratches a lot, but it doesn't seem overwhelming. I don't see any in the house, but will start a good cleaning/vacuuming regiment. I bought a flee comb, but will of course do more. Does anyone have advice on best course of action for a 9 month old FeLV+ kitty? I will also go to the vet for any prescribed treatment, but don't want to cause him a speck of stress with treatment. My vet is very good in this regard since he is opposed to poisonous stuff. For the past three days Loki has been throwing up in the early evenings. He is eating normally otherwise and this doesn't seem to faze him too much. Our feeding regiment for him has not changed. His supplements are L-Lysine and Vitamin C, which he has been give for many months. His throwing up seems to occur sometime after he has his wet food with supplements in the early afternoon (4pm-ish). Any advice or comments? Even though he is fine otherwise, this is causing me very much anxiety. Thanks for any advice. SteveThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
After the hairball, no vomiting the next two following evenings! However, this morning, Loki vomited again. He went back to get another bite of kibble just after though. Maybe he still has some hairball left to expel. He has been cleaning quite a bit; maybe because of the fleas. And the scratching is probably loosening fur. I'm going to assume more hairball to come and treat for it. All of this also gave me a huge scare. After the second night of vomiting, I was stressed with anxiety and took a walk at 11 pm to figure out how I was going to deal with another upcoming loss. I didn't sleep that night. However, the "think-walk" did help me set some things straight in my head, when that time comes. I am still going to treat the whole thing as a hairball issue. He is behaving normally including his eating habits. Thanks Kerry for relaying your experience and your advice. It helps to know about the similar behavior. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:53 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up My cats throw up repeatedly until they get rid of the hairball. So I'll routinely find little pools of liquid on the floor until they get rid of the hairball. The first time I ever witnessed this--before I knew anything about cats' behavior--my new cat was moving around the house and 'throwing up' every 30 seconds it seemed to me. In a total panic, I called the vet, and remember being really upset because they had to have someone call me back--they couldn't have someone talk to me right away. This was clearly an emergency and they didn't seem to understand that! :>) My vet advised mixing white petroleum jelly into their wet food to help them get rid of the hairball; that does seem to work well, and so I've been doing this for years on an irregular basis. He said it's ok to give it on consecutive days/mealtimes when it seems they're having a problem--it won't harm them. I try to remember to routinely add it twice a week to prevent it happening in the first place. It does seem to me, from my experience, that Loki's throwing up is a hairball problem. I hope it's stopped now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Williams Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Loki vomited again last night and I found for the first time a tubular shaped object that was clearly hair. Before, it was undigested food. He would sometimes vomit not long after, in which case it was a yellow-like liquid; but I thought that was simply because he had no food in his stomach after he had already thrown-up. I'm hoping the hairball was the problem and will hope he does not vomit again tonight. If so, I'll try some things. Sally also wrote me with some great suggestions. Thanks Michelle. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Does he vomit a tubular shaped vomit with food still visible, or is it yellow-like liquid with no visible food, or something in-between? It makes a difference. If it is the first, it may be hairballs and treatable by giving him a little bit of Laxastat every day. My Patches has that. If it is one of the latter, it may be a digestive problem or something else. Michelle This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Title: Message Steve, sorry to ask this--it may be a dumb Q--but do you know for sure that fleas are the source of Loki's scratching? After Levi began scratching frequently I put a humidifier in the room on the advice of group members. When the vet came, she examined him and said she was "not concerned" about the scratching. The humidifier did seem to reduce the incidence of scratching among the cats in general. I hope hairballs were also the source of the throwing up. Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve WilliamsSent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:15 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Recently, Loki has gotten fleas. He scratches a lot, but it doesn't seem overwhelming. I don't see any in the house, but will start a good cleaning/vacuuming regiment. I bought a flee comb, but will of course do more. Does anyone have advice on best course of action for a 9 month old FeLV+ kitty? I will also go to the vet for any prescribed treatment, but don't want to cause him a speck of stress with treatment. My vet is very good in this regard since he is opposed to poisonous stuff. For the past three days Loki has been throwing up in the early evenings. He is eating normally otherwise and this doesn't seem to faze him too much. Our feeding regiment for him has not changed. His supplements are L-Lysine and Vitamin C, which he has been give for many months. His throwing up seems to occur sometime after he has his wet food with supplements in the early afternoon (4pm-ish). Any advice or comments? Even though he is fine otherwise, this is causing me very much anxiety. Thanks for any advice. SteveThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
My cats throw up repeatedly until they get rid of the hairball. So I'll routinely find little pools of liquid on the floor until they get rid of the hairball. The first time I ever witnessed this--before I knew anything about cats' behavior--my new cat was moving around the house and 'throwing up' every 30 seconds it seemed to me. In a total panic, I called the vet, and remember being really upset because they had to have someone call me back--they couldn't have someone talk to me right away. This was clearly an emergency and they didn't seem to understand that! :>) My vet advised mixing white petroleum jelly into their wet food to help them get rid of the hairball; that does seem to work well, and so I've been doing this for years on an irregular basis. He said it's ok to give it on consecutive days/mealtimes when it seems they're having a problem--it won't harm them. I try to remember to routinely add it twice a week to prevent it happening in the first place. It does seem to me, from my experience, that Loki's throwing up is a hairball problem. I hope it's stopped now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Williams Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Loki vomited again last night and I found for the first time a tubular shaped object that was clearly hair. Before, it was undigested food. He would sometimes vomit not long after, in which case it was a yellow-like liquid; but I thought that was simply because he had no food in his stomach after he had already thrown-up. I'm hoping the hairball was the problem and will hope he does not vomit again tonight. If so, I'll try some things. Sally also wrote me with some great suggestions. Thanks Michelle. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Does he vomit a tubular shaped vomit with food still visible, or is it yellow-like liquid with no visible food, or something in-between? It makes a difference. If it is the first, it may be hairballs and treatable by giving him a little bit of Laxastat every day. My Patches has that. If it is one of the latter, it may be a digestive problem or something else. Michelle This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
You get get Laxastat or laxatone at most pet food stores and most vet offices. My Patches likes it and licks it out of a bowl like it's a treat. I give it to her once a day in the morning. If I run out and don't give it to her for a few days she starts vomiting again. She is semi-long haired. Michelle In a message dated 2/26/05 3:24:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Loki vomited again last night and I found for the first time a tubular shaped object that was clearly hair. Before, it was undigested food. He would sometimes vomit not long after, in which case it was a yellow-like liquid; but I thought that was simply because he had no food in his stomach after he had already thrown-up. I'm hoping the hairball was the problem and will hope he does not vomit again tonight. If so, I'll try some things. Sally also wrote me with some great suggestions. Thanks Michelle. >>
Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Dear Steve: I would guess it was a hairball problem, then, and hopefully if Loki has been able t cough it up, finally, he will go back to eating normally. Most of my kittys manage to cough up hairballs when they need to without a lot of extraneous vomiting, but I do have one cat, not a longhair, either, who before he can get them up often has several days of digestive distress then not wanting to eat at all before he can finally get it up. The first time he did this I was really freaked out and jumped through all kind of hoops worrying about the food and trying this and that and finally up came the hair ball. Here's hoping the solution will prove to be so simple for Loki. Sally in San Jose
Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
yep, it sounds like the hairball was the cause..I hope! In a message dated 2/26/2005 12:24:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Loki vomited again last night and I found for the first time a tubularshaped object that was clearly hair. Before, it was undigested food. Hewould sometimes vomit not long after, in which case it was a yellow-likeliquid; but I thought that was simply because he had no food in his stomachafter he had already thrown-up.I'm hoping the hairball was the problem and will hope he does not vomitagain tonight. If so, I'll try some things. Sally also wrote me with somegreat suggestions.Thanks Michelle.Steve Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted soon.http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/ <><>
RE: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Loki vomited again last night and I found for the first time a tubular shaped object that was clearly hair. Before, it was undigested food. He would sometimes vomit not long after, in which case it was a yellow-like liquid; but I thought that was simply because he had no food in his stomach after he had already thrown-up. I'm hoping the hairball was the problem and will hope he does not vomit again tonight. If so, I'll try some things. Sally also wrote me with some great suggestions. Thanks Michelle. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up Does he vomit a tubular shaped vomit with food still visible, or is it yellow-like liquid with no visible food, or something in-between? It makes a difference. If it is the first, it may be hairballs and treatable by giving him a little bit of Laxastat every day. My Patches has that. If it is one of the latter, it may be a digestive problem or something else. Michelle
Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
I did not get the start of this topic, but Tigger vomits ALOT...I have determined that she needs a softer more bland diet, I also just went through a day or two of Cleo vomitting and is was the yellow, stomache acid and saliva, I just basically kept her away from food to start then gradually gave her solids and of course always gave her water and it disappeared in a day or two, left as quick as it came ;-)) Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does he vomit a tubular shaped vomit with food still visible, or is it yellow-like liquid with no visible food, or something in-between? It makes a difference. If it is the first, it may be hairballs and treatable by giving him a little bit of Laxastat every day. My Patches has that. If it is one of the latter, it may be a digestive problem or something else.Michelle
Re: Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Does he vomit a tubular shaped vomit with food still visible, or is it yellow-like liquid with no visible food, or something in-between? It makes a difference. If it is the first, it may be hairballs and treatable by giving him a little bit of Laxastat every day. My Patches has that. If it is one of the latter, it may be a digestive problem or something else. Michelle
Loki Advice: fleas, throwing up
Recently, Loki has gotten fleas. He scratches a lot, but it doesn't seem overwhelming. I don't see any in the house, but will start a good cleaning/vacuuming regiment. I bought a flee comb, but will of course do more. Does anyone have advice on best course of action for a 9 month old FeLV+ kitty? I will also go to the vet for any prescribed treatment, but don't want to cause him a speck of stress with treatment. My vet is very good in this regard since he is opposed to poisonous stuff. For the past three days Loki has been throwing up in the early evenings. He is eating normally otherwise and this doesn't seem to faze him too much. Our feeding regiment for him has not changed. His supplements are L-Lysine and Vitamin C, which he has been give for many months. His throwing up seems to occur sometime after he has his wet food with supplements in the early afternoon (4pm-ish). Any advice or comments? Even though he is fine otherwise, this is causing me very much anxiety. Thanks for any advice. Steve
