Re: OT - the new Calici scare - it's a scam! See my research...
I actually know the person who posted that article to the Best Friends Network. She's a friend of mine; however, her vet is Dr. Norsworthy and she trusts him completely, much like I do my vet. If my vet told me my cat needed a vaccine for this condition, I would believe him. In fact, when she told me she was getting her cats vaccinated against this mutated calici virus I went to *my* vet and asked him about it. Dr. Norswothy published an article in the January issue of Cat Fancy, which I do not subscribe to but he does, so I went so far as to dig through his issues and drag it out and show it to him. I would say the Cat Fancy article is more the source of the rumors than the BF article is, as it came out in January and the BF article came out just a couple of days ago. That is just my opinion though. He told me that Fort Dodge makes vaccines of questionable quality, and that he did not recommend giving the vaccine. He only uses Meiral vaccines. Also does not recommend the FIP vaccine which is also manufactured by Ft Dodge. He says he has never seen a case of this and that the (admittedly gruesome) pictures that accompanied the Cat Fancy article could be several other things. So I never paid any attention to this calici thing after that. I'm not going to argue with my friend about what her trusted vet says, though. It wouldn't serve any purpose and is not a battle I would win. On 4/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLEASE CROSS-POST THIS REPLY WIDELY! I've concluded this is a scam by Fort Dodge (via a vet working under their thumb through a big-time advertising company that has questionable ethical practices). I have submitted it to snopes.com so they can research it further, as they have better researchers than myself on their staff. I can find no studies or evidence online to back up these statements of a wide-spread new Calici outbreak requiring immediate vaccination with the new vaccine. All the many outbreaks I've seen posted are the word of mouth statements by one Dr. Norsworthy - a vet with current articles online that state blatantly FALSE facts with regards to current vaccination options and protocols. The only reference to calici outbreaks that matches the descriptions are on these webpages, which are several YEARS past now (the one outbreak I've seen documented by trusted sources happened in a very confined area in CA in 2002): http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/is_vs_fcv.shtml http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/journals.php http://www.goodnewsforpets.com/Articles.asp?ID=695 http://www.dvmvac.org/swiftaction.asp http://www.patentdebate.com/PATAPP/20040259225 (vaccine seems to have been at least partly patented in 2004 by UC Davis researchers) I did find the name of the vet who is traveling the country giving presentations about this new strain of calici, Dr. Norsworthy: http://network.bestfriends.org/texas/news/14454.html (this article may be the main source of all of the rumors, actually, as many people trust Best Friends as a good source of information. What people need to be aware of is that ANY news source can be influenced by the drug company campaigns. I believe this is an unfortunate case of just that having happened.) Not very surprisingly to me, when I found a link explaining Dr. Norsworthy's work and presentations, the page for more info is no longer there: http://www.goodnewsforpets.com/Articles.asp?ID=699 http://www.dvmvac.org/drnorsworthy.htm Doing more digging, I did find this on the same website, and if you just READ the answers this vet gives to the questions you can quickly conclude that one of two things are going on here: 1. This vet is a total moron that doesn't know about the most basic aspects of veterinary care, like INTRA_NASAL vaccines. 2. This is SO outdated, it was pre-Intra-nasal vaccine days, and thus makes it so medically outdated as to be completely useless in modern medicine circles, thus completely removing any credibility to this rumor: http://www.dvmvac.org/norsworthy_calicivirus.asp Also of note, this entire website is a VERY PRO_VACCINE website, even going so far as to deny the proven facts about VAS and denouncing the new APPROVED feline vaccination guidelines of every 3 years for many vaccines! This one particular vet seems to be in the pocket of the pro-vaccination people, namely, the vaccine manufacturers. In fact the website dvmvac.org, is run by a company that blatantly, on their main website proudly professes their specialty, making people believe what they need to believe to get the client's message across: Germinder Associates, Inc. Reaching influentials and decision-makers, building categories and achieving outstanding results are our hallmarks. Although the Internet has vastly changed communications today, Germinder Associates knows from our twenty-six years of agency experience that providing the right mix of tactics and targeted information is still essential to success. Our award-winning firm brings
Re: OT - the new Calici scare - it's a scam! See my research...
i'm willing to bet that what appeared in Cat Fancy is this: http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=408460 which is a PRESS RELEASE. it is not news. it should not be read as news. * JUST ANNOUNCED TODAY MaryChristine has found the cure for FeLV!!! Please contact your banker, and make arrangements to direct-deposit your next ten-year's worth of salary to her account! CROSSPOST EVERYWHERE! ** think i'll send it to cat fancy, see if it works. On 4/29/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually know the person who posted that article to the Best Friends Network. She's a friend of mine; however, her vet is Dr. Norsworthy and she trusts him completely, much like I do my vet. If my vet told me my cat needed a vaccine for this condition, I would believe him. In fact, when she told me she was getting her cats vaccinated against this mutated calici virus I went to *my* vet and asked him about it. Dr. Norswothy published an article in the January issue of Cat Fancy, which I do not subscribe to but he does, so I went so far as to dig through his issues and drag it out and show it to him. I would say the Cat Fancy article is more the source of the rumors than the BF article is, as it came out in January and the BF article came out just a couple of days ago. That is just my opinion though. He told me that Fort Dodge makes vaccines of questionable quality, and that he did not recommend giving the vaccine. He only uses Meiral vaccines. Also does not recommend the FIP vaccine which is also manufactured by Ft Dodge. He says he has never seen a case of this and that the (admittedly gruesome) pictures that accompanied the Cat Fancy article could be several other things. So I never paid any attention to this calici thing after that. I'm not going to argue with my friend about what her trusted vet says, though. It wouldn't serve any purpose and is not a battle I would win. On 4/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLEASE CROSS-POST THIS REPLY WIDELY! I've concluded this is a scam by Fort Dodge (via a vet working under their thumb through a big-time advertising company that has questionable ethical practices). I have submitted it to snopes.com so they can research it further, as they have better researchers than myself on their staff. I can find no studies or evidence online to back up these statements of a wide-spread new Calici outbreak requiring immediate vaccination with the new vaccine. All the many outbreaks I've seen posted are the word of mouth statements by one Dr. Norsworthy - a vet with current articles online that state blatantly FALSE facts with regards to current vaccination options and protocols. The only reference to calici outbreaks that matches the descriptions are on these webpages, which are several YEARS past now (the one outbreak I've seen documented by trusted sources happened in a very confined area in CA in 2002): http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/is_vs_fcv.shtml http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/journals.php http://www.goodnewsforpets.com/Articles.asp?ID=695 http://www.dvmvac.org/swiftaction.asp http://www.patentdebate.com/PATAPP/20040259225 (vaccine seems to have been at least partly patented in 2004 by UC Davis researchers) I did find the name of the vet who is traveling the country giving presentations about this new strain of calici, Dr. Norsworthy: http://network.bestfriends.org/texas/news/14454.html (this article may be the main source of all of the rumors, actually, as many people trust Best Friends as a good source of information. What people need to be aware of is that ANY news source can be influenced by the drug company campaigns. I believe this is an unfortunate case of just that having happened.) Not very surprisingly to me, when I found a link explaining Dr. Norsworthy's work and presentations, the page for more info is no longer there: http://www.goodnewsforpets.com/Articles.asp?ID=699 http://www.dvmvac.org/drnorsworthy.htm Doing more digging, I did find this on the same website, and if you just READ the answers this vet gives to the questions you can quickly conclude that one of two things are going on here: 1. This vet is a total moron that doesn't know about the most basic aspects of veterinary care, like INTRA_NASAL vaccines. 2. This is SO outdated, it was pre-Intra-nasal vaccine days, and thus makes it so medically outdated as to be completely useless in modern medicine circles, thus completely removing any credibility to this rumor: http://www.dvmvac.org/norsworthy_calicivirus.asp Also of note, this entire website is a VERY PRO_VACCINE website, even going so far as to deny the proven facts about VAS and denouncing the new APPROVED feline vaccination guidelines of every 3 years for
Re: OT - the new Calici scare - it's a scam! See my research...
I am going to send my findings to best friends, as I believe they should remove the article from their website. I in no way blame your friend, mind you, she is the innocent victim of the drug company that is pushing their drugs at any cost. Please pass my email along to her though, she may not like it, but I think if she looked up the info, she might see that her vet is not such a great vet. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:40 PM Subject: Re: OT - the new Calici scare - it's a scam! See my research... I actually know the person who posted that article to the Best Friends Network. She's a friend of mine; however, her vet is Dr. Norsworthy and she trusts him completely, much like I do my vet. If my vet told me my cat needed a vaccine for this condition, I would believe him. In fact, when she told me she was getting her cats vaccinated against this mutated calici virus I went to *my* vet and asked him about it. Dr. Norswothy published an article in the January issue of Cat Fancy, which I do not subscribe to but he does, so I went so far as to dig through his issues and drag it out and show it to him. I would say the Cat Fancy article is more the source of the rumors than the BF article is, as it came out in January and the BF article came out just a couple of days ago. That is just my opinion though. He told me that Fort Dodge makes vaccines of questionable quality, and that he did not recommend giving the vaccine. He only uses Meiral vaccines. Also does not recommend the FIP vaccine which is also manufactured by Ft Dodge. He says he has never seen a case of this and that the (admittedly gruesome) pictures that accompanied the Cat Fancy article could be several other things. So I never paid any attention to this calici thing after that. I'm not going to argue with my friend about what her trusted vet says, though. It wouldn't serve any purpose and is not a battle I would win. On 4/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLEASE CROSS-POST THIS REPLY WIDELY! I've concluded this is a scam by Fort Dodge (via a vet working under their thumb through a big-time advertising company that has questionable ethical practices). I have submitted it to snopes.com so they can research it further, as they have better researchers than myself on their staff. I can find no studies or evidence online to back up these statements of a wide-spread new Calici outbreak requiring immediate vaccination with the new vaccine. All the many outbreaks I've seen posted are the word of mouth statements by one Dr. Norsworthy - a vet with current articles online that state blatantly FALSE facts with regards to current vaccination options and protocols. The only reference to calici outbreaks that matches the descriptions are on these webpages, which are several YEARS past now (the one outbreak I've seen documented by trusted sources happened in a very confined area in CA in 2002): http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/is_vs_fcv.shtml http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/journals.php http://www.goodnewsforpets.com/Articles.asp?ID=695 http://www.dvmvac.org/swiftaction.asp http://www.patentdebate.com/PATAPP/20040259225 (vaccine seems to have been at least partly patented in 2004 by UC Davis researchers) I did find the name of the vet who is traveling the country giving presentations about this new strain of calici, Dr. Norsworthy: http://network.bestfriends.org/texas/news/14454.html (this article may be the main source of all of the rumors, actually, as many people trust Best Friends as a good source of information. What people need to be aware of is that ANY news source can be influenced by the drug company campaigns. I believe this is an unfortunate case of just that having happened.) Not very surprisingly to me, when I found a link explaining Dr. Norsworthy's work and presentations, the page for more info is no longer there: http://www.goodnewsforpets.com/Articles.asp?ID=699 http://www.dvmvac.org/drnorsworthy.htm Doing more digging, I did find this on the same website, and if you just READ the answers this vet gives to the questions you can quickly conclude that one of two things are going on here: 1. This vet is a total moron that doesn't know about the most basic aspects of veterinary care, like INTRA_NASAL vaccines. 2. This is SO outdated, it was pre-Intra-nasal vaccine days, and thus makes it so medically outdated as to be completely useless in modern medicine circles, thus completely removing any credibility to this rumor: http://www.dvmvac.org/norsworthy_calicivirus.asp Also of note, this entire website is a VERY PRO_VACCINE website, even going so far as to deny the proven facts about VAS and denouncing the new APPROVED feline vaccination guidelines of every 3 years for many vaccines
