Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise

2008-02-14 Thread Lynne
Wendy, if it isn't already too late with the anemia he has I will do
everything I can to get a vet to either find this stuff for me or
interferon, which may be a little easier to get hold of here.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise


> Lynne,
>
> The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary (one of the biggest and most well-known
in the country) gives all their FeLV kitties Intra-Muscular (not IV or SubQ)
injections of ImmunoRegulin every two weeks!  My Cricket got a few IV
injections but it was already too late for him; his anemia was so
progressed.  If I had to do it over again, I would go with subQ, since
Cricket was so fractious and did not do well with needles.  But if Boo Boo
does IV's easily, I would go with that.
>
> :)
> Wendy
>
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can
change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~
Margaret Meade ~~~
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: cindy reasoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:58:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
>
> Yes the the immuno-regulin worked on Smokey's fevers.
> Some vets say the equistim (immuno-regulin)needs to be
> given IV but the vet I used said you can do it subq.
> It worked for him.  I can't remember exactly how many
> shots they would fix up for me.  I think it was
> anywhere from 10 to 12.  It cost me around 20 to 30
> dollars.  I kept them refrigerated. Smokey would have
> never tolerated them doing the IV.  He hates the vets.
> I hope this will help.
>
> Cindy Reasoner
>
> --- Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Cindy,
> > Thank you for telling me that.  I was picturing
> > taking him in to the vet
> > several times a week and them putting an IV into his
> > arm.  I was even
> > thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do
> > it.  Obviously I know
> > nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what
> > they do - if my vet even
> > does it.  I have had to give cats things before
> > subq, so that would work
> > out.  Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's
> > fevers?
> > Sue
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
> >
> >
> > >I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey.  He had a
> > > problem with fevers.  It wasn't very expensive.  I
> > > would give it to him subq and the vet would fix
> > the
> > > shots up for me.  I would keep them refrigerated.
> > At
> > > first I did 2 a week.  I gradually gave him the
> > shots
> > > less and less.  Now he doesn't get them at all.
> > Just
> > > thought I would let you know what my experience
> > with
> > > it has been.
> > >
> > > Cindy Reasoner
> > >
> > >
> > > --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold,
> > upset
> > >> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that
> > commercial).
> > >> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco
> > won't
> > >> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she
> > is
> > >> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball
> > the
> > >> next day and she is back on track eating again.
> > As
> > >> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes.
> > I
> > >> quickly forget which days things happen unless I
> > >> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the
> > >> kitchen now for notes.
> > >> L
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >>  From: Lynne
> > >>  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >>  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM
> > >>  Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
> > >> exercise
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Sue, I so know how you feel.  I just posted
> > about
> > >> our little guy coughing.  I didn't believe the
> > >> positive test at first and asked for more blood
> > work
> > >> and it's worse than I thought.  Now every little
> > >> thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this
> > >> cough

Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise

2008-02-13 Thread wendy
Lynne,

The Best Friends Animal Sanctuary (one of the biggest and most well-known in 
the country) gives all their FeLV kitties Intra-Muscular (not IV or SubQ) 
injections of ImmunoRegulin every two weeks!  My Cricket got a few IV 
injections but it was already too late for him; his anemia was so progressed.  
If I had to do it over again, I would go with subQ, since Cricket was so 
fractious and did not do well with needles.  But if Boo Boo does IV's easily, I 
would go with that.  

:)
Wendy
 
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


- Original Message 
From: cindy reasoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:58:56 AM
Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise

Yes the the immuno-regulin worked on Smokey's fevers. 
Some vets say the equistim (immuno-regulin)needs to be
given IV but the vet I used said you can do it subq. 
It worked for him.  I can't remember exactly how many
shots they would fix up for me.  I think it was
anywhere from 10 to 12.  It cost me around 20 to 30
dollars.  I kept them refrigerated. Smokey would have
never tolerated them doing the IV.  He hates the vets.
I hope this will help.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cindy,
> Thank you for telling me that.  I was picturing
> taking him in to the vet 
> several times a week and them putting an IV into his
> arm.  I was even 
> thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do
> it.  Obviously I know 
> nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what
> they do - if my vet even 
> does it.  I have had to give cats things before
> subq, so that would work 
> out.  Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's
> fevers?
> Sue
> - Original Message - 
> From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
> 
> 
> >I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey.  He had a
> > problem with fevers.  It wasn't very expensive.  I
> > would give it to him subq and the vet would fix
> the
> > shots up for me.  I would keep them refrigerated. 
> At
> > first I did 2 a week.  I gradually gave him the
> shots
> > less and less.  Now he doesn't get them at all. 
> Just
> > thought I would let you know what my experience
> with
> > it has been.
> >
> > Cindy Reasoner
> >
> >
> > --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold,
> upset
> >> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that
> commercial).
> >> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco
> won't
> >> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she
> is
> >> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball
> the
> >> next day and she is back on track eating again.
> As
> >> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes.
> I
> >> quickly forget which days things happen unless I
> >> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the
> >> kitchen now for notes.
> >> L
> >>
> >> - Original Message - 
> >>  From: Lynne
> >>  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM
> >>  Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
> >> exercise
> >>
> >>
> >>  Sue, I so know how you feel.  I just posted
> about
> >> our little guy coughing.  I didn't believe the
> >> positive test at first and asked for more blood
> work
> >> and it's worse than I thought.  Now every little
> >> thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this
> >> coughing.  I just don't know how none of this
> >> concerned the previous owners.  He's also
> becoming a
> >> ridiculously fussy eater.  I've tried many
> different
> >> can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks
> his
> >> nose up.  Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat
> likes
> >> it all so it isn't totally wasted.  It is all
> just
> >> such a drain on one.
> >>
> >>  Lynne
> >>- Original Message - 
> >>From: Sue & Frank Koren
> >>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
> >> exercise
> >>
> >>
> >>Thank you for your advise.  Yes, he love to
> run
> >> ar

Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise

2008-02-12 Thread cindy reasoner
Yes the the immuno-regulin worked on Smokey's fevers. 
Some vets say the equistim (immuno-regulin)needs to be
given IV but the vet I used said you can do it subq. 
It worked for him.  I can't remember exactly how many
shots they would fix up for me.  I think it was
anywhere from 10 to 12.  It cost me around 20 to 30
dollars.  I kept them refrigerated. Smokey would have
never tolerated them doing the IV.  He hates the vets.
 I hope this will help.

Cindy Reasoner

--- Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cindy,
> Thank you for telling me that.  I was picturing
> taking him in to the vet 
> several times a week and them putting an IV into his
> arm.  I was even 
> thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do
> it.  Obviously I know 
> nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what
> they do - if my vet even 
> does it.  I have had to give cats things before
> subq, so that would work 
> out.  Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's
> fevers?
> Sue
> - Original Message - 
> From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
> 
> 
> >I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey.  He had a
> > problem with fevers.  It wasn't very expensive.  I
> > would give it to him subq and the vet would fix
> the
> > shots up for me.  I would keep them refrigerated. 
> At
> > first I did 2 a week.  I gradually gave him the
> shots
> > less and less.  Now he doesn't get them at all. 
> Just
> > thought I would let you know what my experience
> with
> > it has been.
> >
> > Cindy Reasoner
> >
> >
> > --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold,
> upset
> >> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that
> commercial).
> >> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco
> won't
> >> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she
> is
> >> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball
> the
> >> next day and she is back on track eating again.
> As
> >> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes.
> I
> >> quickly forget which days things happen unless I
> >> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the
> >> kitchen now for notes.
> >> L
> >>
> >> - Original Message - 
> >>   From: Lynne
> >>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>   Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM
> >>   Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
> >> exercise
> >>
> >>
> >>   Sue, I so know how you feel.  I just posted
> about
> >> our little guy coughing.  I didn't believe the
> >> positive test at first and asked for more blood
> work
> >> and it's worse than I thought.  Now every little
> >> thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this
> >> coughing.  I just don't know how none of this
> >> concerned the previous owners.  He's also
> becoming a
> >> ridiculously fussy eater.  I've tried many
> different
> >> can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks
> his
> >> nose up.  Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat
> likes
> >> it all so it isn't totally wasted.  It is all
> just
> >> such a drain on one.
> >>
> >>   Lynne
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: Sue & Frank Koren
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
> >> exercise
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you for your advise.  Yes, he love to
> run
> >> around and play like a maniac - after all he is
> only
> >> 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten.  He
> >> seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a
> >> little raspy when he has been playing hard, but
> >> maybe that is something that is normal for any
> cat.
> >> Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things
> >> differently with him.  Right now I have to decide
> >> what will help him most and what I can afford.  I
> >> have already switched him to an all canned
> Wellness
> >> diet.  The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty
> expensive.
> >> I also have two boys in college that I have to
> think
> >> of also.
> >> Do you know how many cats actually ever end
> up
> >> eventually testing negative with this?  I guess
&

Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise

2008-02-11 Thread Sally Davis
Hi Lynne

It looks like Revival will ship ot of the US. You would have to call them
for the rate. They also ship this item chilled. I found a site in canada
that also carried the horse version, same stuff juts larger vial. I feell
you should be able to get the smaller vial in Canada.
It is listed as Equistim
http://www.cdmv.com/CDMVhtml/ibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?item=2488


http://www.revivalanimal.com/

If you go subq I found insulin syringes work just fine. Junior hardly knows
I gave him a shot.

Sally Davis




On Feb 11, 2008 8:16 PM, Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Sally, BooBoo may be put on this and I'm hoping the vet is agreeable to
> me buying it online.  I don't even know if it is readily available over here
> (Canada).  But I do know if it is ordered through a pharmacy and then
> through the Vet Hospital it will cost me a heck of a lot more that what you
> pay.  For my old cat I get this transdermal thyroid medication and it was
> going to cost a small fortune because they were going to make it up for me.
> I work across the hall from a pharmacist who does a lot of compounding and
> they made the prescription up for me at a fraction of the cost.  The Vet
> (not the same one as BooBoo has) was not at all happy when I asked that the
> prescription be called into the pharmacy but I don't really care.  It's
> worked for Lennie and saved me some bucks.
>
> Lynne
>
>  - Original Message -
> *From:* Sally Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>   *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2008 7:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
>
> Junior had fevers as well. I believe the IR helped the fevers and his
> gingivitis that he also had at that time. I like to say it got him over the
> hump. He received IV injections and yes it is a trade off due to stressing
> the cat. It can be given SubQ, suppossedly is not as effective reaching the
> macrophages. I say go for it. You cn purchase it w/o a prescription from
> Revival Animal health about $36.00 plus shipping.
>
> On Feb 11, 2008 7:42 PM, Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Cindy,
> > Thank you for telling me that.  I was picturing taking him in to the vet
> > several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm.  I was even
> > thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it.  Obviously I know
> > nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet
> > even
> > does it.  I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work
> > out.  Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers?
> > Sue
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> >  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
> >
> >
> > >I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey.  He had a
> > > problem with fevers.  It wasn't very expensive.  I
> > > would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the
> > > shots up for me.  I would keep them refrigerated.  At
> > > first I did 2 a week.  I gradually gave him the shots
> > > less and less.  Now he doesn't get them at all.  Just
> > > thought I would let you know what my experience with
> > > it has been.
> > >
> > > Cindy Reasoner
> > >
> > >
> > > --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset
> > >> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial).
> > >> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't
> > >> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is
> > >> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the
> > >> next day and she is back on track eating again. As
> > >> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I
> > >> quickly forget which days things happen unless I
> > >> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the
> > >> kitchen now for notes.
> > >> L
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >>   From: Lynne
> > >>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >>   Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM
> > >>   Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
> > >> exercise
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>   Sue, I so know how you feel.  I just posted about
> > >> our little guy coughing.  I didn't believe the
> > >> positive test at first and asked for more blood work
> > >> and it's worse than 

Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise

2008-02-11 Thread Lynne
Sally, BooBoo may be put on this and I'm hoping the vet is agreeable to me 
buying it online.  I don't even know if it is readily available over here 
(Canada).  But I do know if it is ordered through a pharmacy and then through 
the Vet Hospital it will cost me a heck of a lot more that what you pay.  For 
my old cat I get this transdermal thyroid medication and it was going to cost a 
small fortune because they were going to make it up for me.  I work across the 
hall from a pharmacist who does a lot of compounding and they made the 
prescription up for me at a fraction of the cost.  The Vet (not the same one as 
BooBoo has) was not at all happy when I asked that the prescription be called 
into the pharmacy but I don't really care.  It's worked for Lennie and saved me 
some bucks.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sally Davis 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise


  Junior had fevers as well. I believe the IR helped the fevers and his 
gingivitis that he also had at that time. I like to say it got him over the 
hump. He received IV injections and yes it is a trade off due to stressing the 
cat. It can be given SubQ, suppossedly is not as effective reaching the 
macrophages. I say go for it. You cn purchase it w/o a prescription from 
Revival Animal health about $36.00 plus shipping.


  On Feb 11, 2008 7:42 PM, Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Cindy,
Thank you for telling me that.  I was picturing taking him in to the vet
several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm.  I was even
thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it.  Obviously I know
nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet even
does it.  I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work
out.  Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers?
Sue

- Original Message -
From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 

Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise


>I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey.  He had a
> problem with fevers.  It wasn't very expensive.  I
> would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the
> shots up for me.  I would keep them refrigerated.  At
> first I did 2 a week.  I gradually gave him the shots
> less and less.  Now he doesn't get them at all.  Just
> thought I would let you know what my experience with
> it has been.
>
> Cindy Reasoner
>
>
> --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset
>> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial).
>> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't
>> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is
>> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the
>> next day and she is back on track eating again. As
>> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I
>> quickly forget which days things happen unless I
>> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the
>> kitchen now for notes.
    >> L
    >>
>> - Original Message -
>>   From: Lynne
>>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>   Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
>> exercise
>>
>>
>>   Sue, I so know how you feel.  I just posted about
>> our little guy coughing.  I didn't believe the
>> positive test at first and asked for more blood work
>> and it's worse than I thought.  Now every little
>> thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this
>> coughing.  I just don't know how none of this
>> concerned the previous owners.  He's also becoming a
>> ridiculously fussy eater.  I've tried many different
>> can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his
>> nose up.  Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes
    >> it all so it isn't totally wasted.  It is all just
>> such a drain on one.
>>
>>   Lynne
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sue & Frank Koren
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
>> exercise
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your advise.  Yes, he love to run
>> around and play like a maniac - after all he is only
>> 8 - 10 months old and really still a kit

Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise

2008-02-11 Thread Sally Davis
Junior had fevers as well. I believe the IR helped the fevers and his
gingivitis that he also had at that time. I like to say it got him over the
hump. He received IV injections and yes it is a trade off due to stressing
the cat. It can be given SubQ, suppossedly is not as effective reaching the
macrophages. I say go for it. You cn purchase it w/o a prescription from
Revival Animal health about $36.00 plus shipping.

On Feb 11, 2008 7:42 PM, Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cindy,
> Thank you for telling me that.  I was picturing taking him in to the vet
> several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm.  I was even
> thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it.  Obviously I know
> nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet even
> does it.  I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work
> out.  Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers?
> Sue
> - Original Message -
> From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
>  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
>
>
> >I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey.  He had a
> > problem with fevers.  It wasn't very expensive.  I
> > would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the
> > shots up for me.  I would keep them refrigerated.  At
> > first I did 2 a week.  I gradually gave him the shots
> > less and less.  Now he doesn't get them at all.  Just
> > thought I would let you know what my experience with
> > it has been.
> >
> > Cindy Reasoner
> >
> >
> > --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset
> >> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial).
> >> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't
> >> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is
> >> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the
> >> next day and she is back on track eating again. As
> >> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I
> >> quickly forget which days things happen unless I
> >> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the
> >> kitchen now for notes.
> >> L
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >>   From: Lynne
> >>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>   Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM
> >>   Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
> >> exercise
> >>
> >>
> >>   Sue, I so know how you feel.  I just posted about
> >> our little guy coughing.  I didn't believe the
> >> positive test at first and asked for more blood work
> >> and it's worse than I thought.  Now every little
> >> thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this
> >> coughing.  I just don't know how none of this
> >> concerned the previous owners.  He's also becoming a
> >> ridiculously fussy eater.  I've tried many different
> >> can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his
> >> nose up.  Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes
> >> it all so it isn't totally wasted.  It is all just
> >> such a drain on one.
> >>
> >>   Lynne
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Sue & Frank Koren
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
> >> exercise
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you for your advise.  Yes, he love to run
> >> around and play like a maniac - after all he is only
> >> 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten.  He
> >> seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a
> >> little raspy when he has been playing hard, but
> >> maybe that is something that is normal for any cat.
> >> Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things
> >> differently with him.  Right now I have to decide
> >> what will help him most and what I can afford.  I
> >> have already switched him to an all canned Wellness
> >> diet.  The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive.
> >> I also have two boys in college that I have to think
> >> of also.
> >> Do you know how many cats actually ever end up
> >> eventually testing negative with this?  I guess
> >> there is a part of me that is still in denial.  He
> >> tested negative when my brother first rescued him,
> >> then he tested positive when he had the in-office
> &g

Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise

2008-02-11 Thread Sue & Frank Koren

Cindy,
Thank you for telling me that.  I was picturing taking him in to the vet 
several times a week and them putting an IV into his arm.  I was even 
thinking they might have to put him to sleep to do it.  Obviously I know 
nothing about it and will have to ask my vet what they do - if my vet even 
does it.  I have had to give cats things before subq, so that would work 
out.  Did the immuno-regulin work on Smokey's fevers?

Sue
- Original Message - 
From: "cindy reasoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise



I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey.  He had a
problem with fevers.  It wasn't very expensive.  I
would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the
shots up for me.  I would keep them refrigerated.  At
first I did 2 a week.  I gradually gave him the shots
less and less.  Now he doesn't get them at all.  Just
thought I would let you know what my experience with
it has been.

Cindy Reasoner


--- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset
stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial).
Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't
eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is
trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the
next day and she is back on track eating again. As
Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I
quickly forget which days things happen unless I
make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the
kitchen now for notes.
L

- Original Message - 
  From: Lynne

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
exercise


  Sue, I so know how you feel.  I just posted about
our little guy coughing.  I didn't believe the
positive test at first and asked for more blood work
and it's worse than I thought.  Now every little
thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this
coughing.  I just don't know how none of this
concerned the previous owners.  He's also becoming a
ridiculously fussy eater.  I've tried many different
can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his
nose up.  Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes
it all so it isn't totally wasted.  It is all just
such a drain on one.

  Lynne
- Original Message - 
From: Sue & Frank Koren

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
exercise


Thank you for your advise.  Yes, he love to run
around and play like a maniac - after all he is only
8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten.  He
seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a
little raspy when he has been playing hard, but
maybe that is something that is normal for any cat.
Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things
differently with him.  Right now I have to decide
what will help him most and what I can afford.  I
have already switched him to an all canned Wellness
diet.  The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive.
I also have two boys in college that I have to think
of also.
Do you know how many cats actually ever end up
eventually testing negative with this?  I guess
there is a part of me that is still in denial.  He
tested negative when my brother first rescued him,
then he tested positive when he had the in-office
test at the vet when I got him.  They then gave him
the blood test which was also positive.  I think
April is when I will test him again.  Meanwhile I
will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has
to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy
today that there isn't even a good view out the
window from his chair.
Sue
  - Original Message - 
  From: Caroline Kaufmann

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM
  Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
exercise


  I don't know about the IR, but as far as the
vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so
there's no need to stress yourself out about it now.
 Now you know better tho and can better protect him
in the future by being better educated.

  And you are very to lucky to have found this
site so early on.  I only got to it when Monkee was
in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost.
 And I felt horrible when I realized all the
knowledge and information that was out there on the
internet that I didn't think to take advantage of.
I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted
and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed,
his beefy body would beat the odds.  When I realized
I could have been more proactive with things- like
no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to
ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't
have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the
time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with
Monkee

Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise

2008-02-11 Thread cindy reasoner
I used immuno-regulin on my cat Smokey.  He had a
problem with fevers.  It wasn't very expensive.  I
would give it to him subq and the vet would fix the
shots up for me.  I would keep them refrigerated.  At
first I did 2 a week.  I gradually gave him the shots
less and less.  Now he doesn't get them at all.  Just
thought I would let you know what my experience with
it has been.

Cindy Reasoner
   

 --- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset
> stomach or diarrhea (I sound like that commercial).
> Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco won't
> eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is
> trying to get rid of. I usually find a hairball the
> next day and she is back on track eating again. As
> Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I
> quickly forget which days things happen unless I
> make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the
> kitchen now for notes. 
> L
> 
> - Original Message - 
>   From: Lynne 
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>   Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM
>   Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
> exercise
> 
> 
>   Sue, I so know how you feel.  I just posted about
> our little guy coughing.  I didn't believe the
> positive test at first and asked for more blood work
> and it's worse than I thought.  Now every little
> thing I think is unusual I panic about, like this
> coughing.  I just don't know how none of this
> concerned the previous owners.  He's also becoming a
> ridiculously fussy eater.  I've tried many different
> can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his
> nose up.  Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes
> it all so it isn't totally wasted.  It is all just
> such a drain on one.  
> 
>   Lynne
> ----- Original Message - 
>     From: Sue & Frank Koren 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
> exercise
> 
> 
> Thank you for your advise.  Yes, he love to run
> around and play like a maniac - after all he is only
> 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten.  He
> seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a
> little raspy when he has been playing hard, but
> maybe that is something that is normal for any cat. 
> Because of the FeLV I am just noticing things
> differently with him.  Right now I have to decide
> what will help him most and what I can afford.  I
> have already switched him to an all canned Wellness
> diet.  The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty expensive. 
> I also have two boys in college that I have to think
> of also.  
> Do you know how many cats actually ever end up
> eventually testing negative with this?  I guess
> there is a part of me that is still in denial.  He
> tested negative when my brother first rescued him,
> then he tested positive when he had the in-office
> test at the vet when I got him.  They then gave him
> the blood test which was also positive.  I think
> April is when I will test him again.  Meanwhile I
> will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has
> to be stuck in one room. It's so nasty and snowy
> today that there isn't even a good view out the
> window from his chair.
> Sue
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Caroline Kaufmann 
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>   Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM
>   Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and
> exercise
> 
> 
>   I don't know about the IR, but as far as the
> vaccs- it sounds like he handled them fine, so
> there's no need to stress yourself out about it now.
>  Now you know better tho and can better protect him
> in the future by being better educated.  
>
>   And you are very to lucky to have found this
> site so early on.  I only got to it when Monkee was
> in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost.
>  And I felt horrible when I realized all the
> knowledge and information that was out there on the
> internet that I didn't think to take advantage of. 
> I just took Monkee's incredible health for granted
> and thought if I kept him happy and not stressed,
> his beefy body would beat the odds.  When I realized
> I could have been more proactive with things- like
> no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even meds to
> ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't
> have time or energy to cry over spilled milk at the
> time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help with
> Monkee's sick condition.  It's since his passing
> that I realized the depth of what I allowed myself
> to miss out o

Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise

2008-02-10 Thread laurieskatz
Me again. Mine don't eat if they have a cold, upset stomach or diarrhea (I 
sound like that commercial). Cats need to be able to smell their food. Coco 
won't eat her normal food when she has a hairball she is trying to get rid of. 
I usually find a hairball the next day and she is back on track eating again. 
As Lance suggested, watch carefully and make notes. I quickly forget which days 
things happen unless I make a note. I actually keep a notebook in the kitchen 
now for notes. 
L

- Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise


  Sue, I so know how you feel.  I just posted about our little guy coughing.  I 
didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and 
it's worse than I thought.  Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic 
about, like this coughing.  I just don't know how none of this concerned the 
previous owners.  He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater.  I've tried 
many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up.  
Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted.  
It is all just such a drain on one.  

  Lynne
- Original Message - 
From: Sue & Frank Koren 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM
    Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise


Thank you for your advise.  Yes, he love to run around and play like a 
maniac - after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten.  He 
seems to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been 
playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat.  Because 
of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him.  Right now I have 
to decide what will help him most and what I can afford.  I have already 
switched him to an all canned Wellness diet.  The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty 
expensive.  I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also.  
Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative 
with this?  I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial.  He tested 
negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had 
the in-office test at the vet when I got him.  They then gave him the blood 
test which was also positive.  I think April is when I will test him again.  
Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in 
one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out 
the window from his chair.
Sue
  - Original Message - 
  From: Caroline Kaufmann 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM
  Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise


  I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he 
handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now.  Now 
you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better 
educated.  
   
  And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on.  I only 
got to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost.  
And I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was 
out there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of.  I just 
took Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and 
not stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds.  When I realized I could have 
been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even 
meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy 
to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help 
with Monkee's sick condition.  It's since his passing that I realized the depth 
of what I allowed myself to miss out on.  Could any of those things have made a 
difference in Monkee's individual case?  I don't know?  I never will.  But if I 
can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I 
did, then my guilt is lessened.  
   
  You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what 
is out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy.  You have the chance to do all 
you can for him early on.  
   
  Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy and healthy for now and he 
wants to run around like a maniac and play toys, by all means, let him do it.  
It's important to not treat him like an invalid, especially if he does not feel 
like one/doesn't know he is one b/c he will pick up on that.  For most of 
Monkee's illness my mom kept telling me to stop crying around him and treating 
him like an invalid because at that point (until 

Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise

2008-02-10 Thread Lynne
Sue, I so know how you feel.  I just posted about our little guy coughing.  I 
didn't believe the positive test at first and asked for more blood work and 
it's worse than I thought.  Now every little thing I think is unusual I panic 
about, like this coughing.  I just don't know how none of this concerned the 
previous owners.  He's also becoming a ridiculously fussy eater.  I've tried 
many different can foods and some hard foods and he just sticks his nose up.  
Fortunately our 19 year old pig-cat likes it all so it isn't totally wasted.  
It is all just such a drain on one.  

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sue & Frank Koren 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise


  Thank you for your advise.  Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac 
- after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten.  He seems 
to get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been 
playing hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat.  Because 
of the FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him.  Right now I have 
to decide what will help him most and what I can afford.  I have already 
switched him to an all canned Wellness diet.  The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty 
expensive.  I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also.  
  Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative 
with this?  I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial.  He tested 
negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had 
the in-office test at the vet when I got him.  They then gave him the blood 
test which was also positive.  I think April is when I will test him again.  
Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in 
one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out 
the window from his chair.
  Sue
- Original Message - 
From: Caroline Kaufmann 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise


I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he 
handled them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now.  Now 
you know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better 
educated.  
 
And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on.  I only got 
to it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost.  And 
I felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was out 
there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of.  I just took 
Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and not 
stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds.  When I realized I could have 
been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even 
meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy 
to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help 
with Monkee's sick condition.  It's since his passing that I realized the depth 
of what I allowed myself to miss out on.  Could any of those things have made a 
difference in Monkee's individual case?  I don't know?  I never will.  But if I 
can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I 
did, then my guilt is lessened.  
 
You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what is 
out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy.  You have the chance to do all you 
can for him early on.  
 
Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy and healthy for now and he 
wants to run around like a maniac and play toys, by all means, let him do it.  
It's important to not treat him like an invalid, especially if he does not feel 
like one/doesn't know he is one b/c he will pick up on that.  For most of 
Monkee's illness my mom kept telling me to stop crying around him and treating 
him like an invalid because at that point (until the last 2 wks), he didn't 
know he was sick- even when he was getting chemo.  She didn't want Monkee to 
pick up on my cues and then in turn, get depressed and get further stressed.  
Asymptomatic Felv cats don't know they are sick, so allowing him to play and 
act like a normal boy is all part of providing him a stress-free environment 
which is really key for Felv+ cats.
 
caroline 




--
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
  Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:32:52 -0500


  When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin?  When they still have 

Re: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise

2008-02-10 Thread Sue & Frank Koren
Thank you for your advise.  Yes, he love to run around and play like a maniac - 
after all he is only 8 - 10 months old and really still a kitten.  He seems to 
get out of breath and his breathing is a little raspy when he has been playing 
hard, but maybe that is something that is normal for any cat.  Because of the 
FeLV I am just noticing things differently with him.  Right now I have to 
decide what will help him most and what I can afford.  I have already switched 
him to an all canned Wellness diet.  The Immuno-Regulin sounds pretty 
expensive.  I also have two boys in college that I have to think of also.  
Do you know how many cats actually ever end up eventually testing negative with 
this?  I guess there is a part of me that is still in denial.  He tested 
negative when my brother first rescued him, then he tested positive when he had 
the in-office test at the vet when I got him.  They then gave him the blood 
test which was also positive.  I think April is when I will test him again.  
Meanwhile I will spoil him as much as I possibly can when he has to be stuck in 
one room. It's so nasty and snowy today that there isn't even a good view out 
the window from his chair.
Sue
  - Original Message - 
  From: Caroline Kaufmann 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:56 PM
  Subject: [PHISH]RE: Immuno-Regullin and exercise


  I don't know about the IR, but as far as the vaccs- it sounds like he handled 
them fine, so there's no need to stress yourself out about it now.  Now you 
know better tho and can better protect him in the future by being better 
educated.  
   
  And you are very to lucky to have found this site so early on.  I only got to 
it when Monkee was in the throws of the illness and most hope was lost.  And I 
felt horrible when I realized all the knowledge and information that was out 
there on the internet that I didn't think to take advantage of.  I just took 
Monkee's incredible health for granted and thought if I kept him happy and not 
stressed, his beefy body would beat the odds.  When I realized I could have 
been more proactive with things- like no vaccs, better diet, supplements, even 
meds to ward off the disease, I felt horrible, but I didn't have time or energy 
to cry over spilled milk at the time b/c I was so desperate for immediate help 
with Monkee's sick condition.  It's since his passing that I realized the depth 
of what I allowed myself to miss out on.  Could any of those things have made a 
difference in Monkee's individual case?  I don't know?  I never will.  But if I 
can help someone else get to resources and better information SOONER than I 
did, then my guilt is lessened.  
   
  You should feel really happy that you are taking full advantage of what is 
out there now- early- while Buzz is healthy.  You have the chance to do all you 
can for him early on.  
   
  Don't worry about him playing- if he's happy and healthy for now and he wants 
to run around like a maniac and play toys, by all means, let him do it.  It's 
important to not treat him like an invalid, especially if he does not feel like 
one/doesn't know he is one b/c he will pick up on that.  For most of Monkee's 
illness my mom kept telling me to stop crying around him and treating him like 
an invalid because at that point (until the last 2 wks), he didn't know he was 
sick- even when he was getting chemo.  She didn't want Monkee to pick up on my 
cues and then in turn, get depressed and get further stressed.  Asymptomatic 
Felv cats don't know they are sick, so allowing him to play and act like a 
normal boy is all part of providing him a stress-free environment which is 
really key for Felv+ cats.
   
  caroline 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Immuno-Regullin and exercise
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:32:52 -0500


When is the best time to start Immuno-Regulin?  When they still have no 
symptoms?  I can still hardly believe Buzz has this horrible disease.  He seems 
so healthy and loves to play and has a great appetite.  How often do the 
success stories like Minstrels come along?  These postings have so much new 
information and the internet sights have so much conflicting information that 
it is hard to know what to think.  I just know the little guy cleaning himself 
in my lap right now deserves all I can do for him.
Does anyone know if a lot of playing exercise is good for a FeLV + cat? He 
chases his toys so hard that he gets out of breath sometimes.
Buzz had some vaccinations about a month ago, is he still in danger?
I have always had cats but this is so new and I feel so ignorant.  I am so 
glad for this site, I have already learned more real information that seems 
like it will actually help Buzz then from all the reading I've done for the 
last several weeks since I learned he was FeLV positive.
Thank