Re: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos
Hi Natalie, We are not certain which is this kitten's mom, because the whole colony is mixed up. One mom drops 2 kittens off, another picks them up. They are all sharing. From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Mon, October 8, 2012 11:06:33 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos Janine, you wrote that some of their moms tested negative. How about the positive kitten’s mom - was she pos or neg? I would retest with the ELISA. I find it strange that a kitten would show a weak positive if the mother was positive because their kittens are positive, or should be. If the kitten’s mom is not positive, could this kittens have been exposed to a positive cat and therefore be a weak positive? What was the vet’s explanation? I don’t have much experience with FeLV – I have quite a few FIV. I had a FeLV+ kitten years ago, and he died within 2 months. Last year, I had 2 FeLV+ adult cats (already in the bone marrow), one died of CRF and the other one was adopted by a veterinarian and still doing really well. Those two FeLV+ cats were living with a large group of healthy cats for about 6 months…I have retested, starting with the youngest and oldest, and then everyone in the middle – not a single cat contracted FeLV! I consider myself quite lucky! But there are many on this list who have FeLV+ cats living with healthy ones, some vaccinate the healthy ones, and some do not. Natalie From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of janine paton Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos Can anyone explain to me why if from point of exposure to actually testing pos is 28 days, if this is correct, why we can't just retest in one month using Elisa? And if all excepting the one testing weak pos, stjill test neg, is this good enough? All 8 kittens and some of their moms tested neg, just the one a weak pos. I am asking because I am trying to make this make sense to me and keep everyone safe. And foster homes understanding. Thanks, Janine From:Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, October 5, 2012 8:52:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) I agree, they have been very civil! Natalie From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Thanks, Lee, I was about to say that I have never seen anyone not get responded to on this list in their time of need and emotional turmoil. Going offtopic is almost inevitable when you’re on a specialized list like this. I think the OT discussion has been amazingly civil and respectful. As it happens, I will be voting Democrat because I feel they are in touch with, and care about, the people that the Republicans have referred to as the 47% they’re not interested in reaching. My reasons have to do with the way the most vulnerable among us would be treated under each party. I feel people like most of us, who are sort of getting by or not quite getting by or getting by only because we get a pension or disability or whatever, need people in government who are interested in reaching us. Diane R. From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:54 PM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject) In the middle of our chit-chat about politics and hunters and vegetarian diets, if someone had come in with the subject line: Cat Bitten by Cobra, we would have been off the chatty stuff in an instant and onto Google to look up what could be done for the cat while the caregiver was taking him to the vet emergency clinic. So if we wander around the hospital isles occasionally when everyone is asleep and babble a bit, don't worry. We can switch in a moment. I actually did switch when I saw how agonized you were and posted about vets treating FeLv cats differently from non-FeLv cats to get us back on topic. But occasionally on every specialized list I have been on there is a subject with OT listed and then it's either a funny article copied from a magazine or other online source or some cute pictures of cats doing silly things, or even a heated political discussion about who will be President and how it would effect our ability to financially keep our heads above water and still feed our rescues and take our cats to the vet when needed. It really does tie into the FeLv+ cat group because we are very money intensive in trying to keep our rescued special needs cats as healthy as can be for as long as can be. If I lose my Social Security and Medicare benefits or they are reduced, I would have to cut down on food for myself and air conditioning in the summer and heat in the winter to pay
Re: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos
Janine, you wrote that some of their moms tested negative. How about the positive kitten’s mom - was she pos or neg? I would retest with the ELISA. I find it strange that a kitten would show a weak positive if the mother was positive because their kittens are positive, or should be. If the kitten’s mom is not positive, could this kittens have been exposed to a positive cat and therefore be a weak positive? What was the vet’s explanation? I don’t have much experience with FeLV – I have quite a few FIV. I had a FeLV+ kitten years ago, and he died within 2 months. Last year, I had 2 FeLV+ adult cats (already in the bone marrow), one died of CRF and the other one was adopted by a veterinarian and still doing really well. Those two FeLV+ cats were living with a large group of healthy cats for about 6 months…I have retested, starting with the youngest and oldest, and then everyone in the middle – not a single cat contracted FeLV! I consider myself quite lucky! But there are many on this list who have FeLV+ cats living with healthy ones, some vaccinate the healthy ones, and some do not. Natalie From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of janine paton Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos Can anyone explain to me why if from point of exposure to actually testing pos is 28 days, if this is correct, why we can't just retest in one month using Elisa? And if all excepting the one testing weak pos, stjill test neg, is this good enough? All 8 kittens and some of their moms tested neg, just the one a weak pos. I am asking because I am trying to make this make sense to me and keep everyone safe. And foster homes understanding. Thanks, Janine _ From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, October 5, 2012 8:52:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) I agree, they have been very civil! Natalie From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Thanks, Lee, I was about to say that I have never seen anyone not get responded to on this list in their time of need and emotional turmoil. Going offtopic is almost inevitable when you’re on a specialized list like this. I think the OT discussion has been amazingly civil and respectful. As it happens, I will be voting Democrat because I feel they are in touch with, and care about, the people that the Republicans have referred to as the 47% they’re not interested in reaching. My reasons have to do with the way the most vulnerable among us would be treated under each party. I feel people like most of us, who are sort of getting by or not quite getting by or getting by only because we get a pension or disability or whatever, need people in government who are interested in reaching us. Diane R. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:54 PM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject) In the middle of our chit-chat about politics and hunters and vegetarian diets, if someone had come in with the subject line: Cat Bitten by Cobra, we would have been off the chatty stuff in an instant and onto Google to look up what could be done for the cat while the caregiver was taking him to the vet emergency clinic. So if we wander around the hospital isles occasionally when everyone is asleep and babble a bit, don't worry. We can switch in a moment. I actually did switch when I saw how agonized you were and posted about vets treating FeLv cats differently from non-FeLv cats to get us back on topic. But occasionally on every specialized list I have been on there is a subject with OT listed and then it's either a funny article copied from a magazine or other online source or some cute pictures of cats doing silly things, or even a heated political discussion about who will be President and how it would effect our ability to financially keep our heads above water and still feed our rescues and take our cats to the vet when needed. It really does tie into the FeLv+ cat group because we are very money intensive in trying to keep our rescued special needs cats as healthy as can be for as long as can be. If I lose my Social Security and Medicare benefits or they are reduced, I would have to cut down on food for myself and air conditioning in the summer and heat in the winter to pay my mortgage on this house that I bought to keep my cats safe from being seized by Animal Control in a city where there are cat limits. Even though I still work and have an online job, I would be in dire straits. So it is very important to my cats who I vote for. And since I live in a rural area, hunting becomes a problem for me also. If the NRA controls
Re: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos
Janine, I'm not sure where you got the 28 days from exposure to testing positive. I don't think it is that cut and dried. Most of what I have read suggest retesting in 60-90 days. Like someone else has posted I wouldn't worry about the other 8 kittens. I believe you wrote the one kitten has been isolated from the other 8. FeLV is not as contagious as some would leave you to believe. I hope someone with more information will respond. Sharyl From: janine paton To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos Can anyone explain to me why if from point of exposure to actually testing pos is 28 days, if this is correct, why we can't just retest in one month using Elisa? And if all excepting the one testing weak pos, stjill test neg, is this good enough? All 8 kittens and some of their moms tested neg, just the one a weak pos. I am asking because I am trying to make this make sense to me and keep everyone safe. And foster homes understanding. Thanks, Janine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] 9 kittens, one testing pos
Can anyone explain to me why if from point of exposure to actually testing pos is 28 days, if this is correct, why we can't just retest in one month using Elisa? And if all excepting the one testing weak pos, stjill test neg, is this good enough? All 8 kittens and some of their moms tested neg, just the one a weak pos. I am asking because I am trying to make this make sense to me and keep everyone safe. And foster homes understanding. Thanks, Janine From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, October 5, 2012 8:52:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) I agree, they have been very civil! Natalie From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Thanks, Lee, I was about to say that I have never seen anyone not get responded to on this list in their time of need and emotional turmoil. Going offtopic is almost inevitable when you’re on a specialized list like this. I think the OT discussion has been amazingly civil and respectful. As it happens, I will be voting Democrat because I feel they are in touch with, and care about, the people that the Republicans have referred to as the 47% they’re not interested in reaching. My reasons have to do with the way the most vulnerable among us would be treated under each party. I feel people like most of us, who are sort of getting by or not quite getting by or getting by only because we get a pension or disability or whatever, need people in government who are interested in reaching us. Diane R. From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:54 PM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] (no subject) In the middle of our chit-chat about politics and hunters and vegetarian diets, if someone had come in with the subject line: Cat Bitten by Cobra, we would have been off the chatty stuff in an instant and onto Google to look up what could be done for the cat while the caregiver was taking him to the vet emergency clinic. So if we wander around the hospital isles occasionally when everyone is asleep and babble a bit, don't worry. We can switch in a moment. I actually did switch when I saw how agonized you were and posted about vets treating FeLv cats differently from non-FeLv cats to get us back on topic. But occasionally on every specialized list I have been on there is a subject with OT listed and then it's either a funny article copied from a magazine or other online source or some cute pictures of cats doing silly things, or even a heated political discussion about who will be President and how it would effect our ability to financially keep our heads above water and still feed our rescues and take our cats to the vet when needed. It really does tie into the FeLv+ cat group because we are very money intensive in trying to keep our rescued special needs cats as healthy as can be for as long as can be. If I lose my Social Security and Medicare benefits or they are reduced, I would have to cut down on food for myself and air conditioning in the summer and heat in the winter to pay my mortgage on this house that I bought to keep my cats safe from being seized by Animal Control in a city where there are cat limits. Even though I still work and have an online job, I would be in dire straits. So it is very important to my cats who I vote for. And since I live in a rural area, hunting becomes a problem for me also. If the NRA controls the government, then my 3 outside cats and my peacock are in danger. I actually hear gunshots sometimes in the daytime on weekends and it makes me tremble. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too!___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
