Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stargate?

[Sandy]

sure happy to know that article is a good thing for "us". Just happened to 
pop-up 
Sandy W 

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From: "Amani Oakley"  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 6:58:29 PM 
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Stargate? 



Sandy 



I cannot tell you how happy your post, below, makes me. Much of what is in the 
Drs. Fosters & Smith website, sounds like it was taken from my hundreds of 
posts, verbatim. I feel a little vindicated, because most of this stuff I 
worked out on my own by observation, lab testing, researching etc. My 
hypotheses were just that. Seeing this stuff posted, and looking like it came 
from an interview with me, helps me to stop wondering at times if I am just 
plain crazy, since no one else seemed to know or understand this stuff – 
especially the vets. 



I didn’t know of the second anabolic steroid – nandrolone. I have no idea if it 
is as good as the Winstrol, but it would be nice if there were additional 
options rather than just Winstrol. 



A couple of things though. Dogs have had good responses to Winstrol as well, 
but they suffer far more from the side-effects than cats do. Also, Winstrol has 
very little of the androgenic side-effects, like virilisation – even in human 
athletes. Winstrol is considered pretty safe in that regard. 



As I am mentioned as recently as my post today though, Winstrol is very good 
for a whole lot of conditions. It’s ability to regenerate bone marrow and get 
red cell, white cell and platelet production increased, is what makes it very 
helpful in treating FeLV cats. But it has applications in many, many conditions 
where cats (and dogs, and sheep and horses – studies show), are run-down, ill, 
ailing, not eating, wasting away, etc. 



Boy, does it feel good to know that I am not alone, crying in the wilderness 
about this stuff! 



Amani 




From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sandy 
Sent: November-02-17 5:09 PM 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stargate? 







The Androgen Group-Anabolic Steroids 




Veterinary & Aquatic Services Department, Drs. Foster & Smith 









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This is from the Drs. Fosters & Smith website - for anyone interested 


Sandy W 








These compounds are related to the male hormone testosterone. They are referred 
to as the anabolic steroids because they cause the formation of new proteins. 
As we stated before, they are often abused by athletes trying to increase 
strength and muscle mass. Their use in canine medicine, while infrequent, is 
related to these and similar properties. 





Anabolic steroids come in liquid forms for injection and tablets for oral 
administration. Two of the most commonly used in canine medicine are stanozolol 
(Winstrol-V) and nandrolone (DecaDurabolin). 

Animals that have been sick for a long time or who have been through severe, 
debilitating injuries often have generalized weakness and atrophied muscles. In 
some, this has progressed to the point where the animals can no longer walk or 
even stand. Their bodies are just too run down, and without some outside 
stimulation, they simply may give up the will to live. 



Anabolic steroids are sometimes useful in these situations. The therapy may 
take several weeks. The medications can be most helpful if the veterinarian 
recognizes the condition before too much strength is lost. Anabolic steroids 
assist the body in regaining its muscle mass by building new proteins, which 
are the primary constituent of muscle fibers. Additionally, they help 
strengthen existing muscles. 



In some of these same cases, anabolic steroids are frequently used to stimulate 
the debilitated or recovering patient's appetite. To achieve this effect 
usually requires several days to several weeks of therapy for significant 
changes. 

The anabolic steroids are also useful in treating certain types of anemia . 
Anemia is the term used to describe lower than normal numbers of red blood 
cells (RBCs). In certain cases where the bone marrow has stopped producing new 
RBCs, administration of anabolic steroids will stimulate this system and bring 
the number of these cells back to normal levels. They also are known to 
stimulate the production of white blood cells and platelets (tiny cells in 
blood that assist in clotting) to a lesser degree. In these situations, the 
anabolic steroids are useful only in increasing the numbers of these cells. 
They do not increase the ability of the cells to function . 



Kidney failure often brings on anemia because these organs may fail to produce 
the substance erythropoietin. Its normal function is to monitor the level of 
RBCs in the body and to stimulate the bone marrow to increase production when

[Felvtalk] FW: Stargate?

[Amani Oakley]

Sandy

I cannot tell you how happy your post, below, makes me. Much of what is in the 
Drs. Fosters & Smith website, sounds like it was taken from my hundreds of 
posts, verbatim. I feel a little vindicated, because most of this stuff I 
worked out on my own by observation, lab testing, researching etc. My 
hypotheses were just that. Seeing this stuff posted, and looking like it came 
from an interview with me, helps me to stop wondering at times if I am just 
plain crazy, since no one else seemed to know or understand this stuff – 
especially the vets.

I didn’t know of the second anabolic steroid – nandrolone. I have no idea if it 
is as good as the Winstrol, but it would be nice if there were additional 
options rather than just Winstrol.

A couple of things though. Dogs have had good responses to Winstrol as well, 
but they suffer far more from the side-effects than cats do. Also, Winstrol has 
very little of the androgenic side-effects, like virilisation – even in human 
athletes. Winstrol is considered pretty safe in that regard.

As I am mentioned as recently as my post today though, Winstrol is very good 
for a whole lot of conditions. It’s ability to regenerate bone marrow and get 
red cell, white cell and platelet production increased, is what makes it very 
helpful in treating FeLV cats. But it has applications in many, many conditions 
where cats (and dogs, and sheep and horses – studies show), are run-down, ill, 
ailing, not eating, wasting away, etc.

Boy, does it feel good to know that I am not alone, crying in the wilderness 
about this stuff!

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sandy
Sent: November-02-17 5:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stargate?

The Androgen Group-Anabolic Steroids

Veterinary & Aquatic Services Department, Drs. Foster & Smith



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This is from the Drs. Fosters & Smith website - for anyone interested
Sandy W


These compounds are related to the male hormone testosterone. They are referred 
to as the anabolic steroids because they cause the formation of new proteins. 
As we stated before, they are often abused by athletes trying to increase 
strength and muscle mass. Their use in canine medicine, while infrequent, is 
related to these and similar properties.


Anabolic steroids come in liquid forms for injection and tablets for oral 
administration. Two of the most commonly used in canine medicine are stanozolol 
(Winstrol-V) and nandrolone (DecaDurabolin).

Animals that have been sick for a long time or who have been through severe, 
debilitating injuries often have generalized weakness and atrophied muscles. In 
some, this has progressed to the point where the animals can no longer walk or 
even stand. Their bodies are just too run down, and without some outside 
stimulation, they simply may give up the will to live.



Anabolic steroids are sometimes useful in these situations. The therapy may 
take several weeks. The medications can be most helpful if the veterinarian 
recognizes the condition before too much strength is lost. Anabolic steroids 
assist the body in regaining its muscle mass by building new proteins, which 
are the primary constituent of muscle fibers. Additionally, they help 
strengthen existing muscles.



In some of these same cases, anabolic steroids are frequently used to stimulate 
the debilitated or recovering patient's appetite. To achieve this effect 
usually requires several days to several weeks of therapy for significant 
changes.

The anabolic steroids are also useful in treating certain types of anemia. 
Anemia is the term used to describe lower than normal numbers of red blood 
cells (RBCs). In certain cases where the bone marrow has stopped producing new 
RBCs, administration of anabolic steroids will stimulate this system and bring 
the number of these cells back to normal levels. They also are known to 
stimulate the production of white blood cells and platelets (tiny cells in 
blood that assist in clotting) to a lesser degree. In these situations, the 
anabolic steroids are useful only in increasing the numbers of these cells. 
They do not increase the ability of the cells to function.



Kidney failure often brings on anemia because these organs may fail to produce 
the substance erythropoietin. Its normal function is to monitor the level of 
RBCs in the body and to stimulate the bone marrow to increase production when 
RBC numbers are too low. In its absence, anabolic steroids are often usefu