Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 38

2016-09-28 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL

Ardy...
I too had a blind cat and he did rather well... I simply am NOT 
willing to put this guy through 2 major operations so he can be blind 
AND have no eyes and still be susceptible ( due to FeLV) to a host of 
other ills Plus..he would be a sitting duck for his housemate who is 
still acting like a kitten and attacks him several times a day 
Fortunately he doesn't keep it up after Yogi makes it clear that he is 
not interested in playing and runs away and hides but it's still 
stressful for him Honestly it's simply the sheer amount of 
things that have plagued my boy in the 7 short months he has been with 
me URI,Diarrhea, Blood in his stool, weight loss, hair loss, 
constant fever, Uveitis, Corneal Ulcer... It's just too much for 
such a young cat His entire life is medications several times a day 
and hiding from his housemate at most times.
I won't put him down as long as he is still functional and doesn't 
appear to be in too much pain( right now he still has a good appetite 
and still shows curiosity about his environment but. if the time 
comes that he loses his appetite and begins to appear to be quite 
uncomfortable I will put him down simply because it is wholly unlikely 
that this WON"T be the path the remainer of his life will take...I 
won't keep him around just because " I " will miss him...
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   1. Re: Eye Problems and Prednisolone (Ardy Robertson)
   2. Re: Eye Problems and Prednisolone (Ardy Robertson)
   3. Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37 (Liz McCarty)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:35:38 -0500
From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and 
Prednisolone

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I had a blind cat (Dodsie) who lived to be 19. Since she already knew 
our house, she adjusted to being blind so well. She walked around 
rooms close to the outer walls, almost touching them. She was able to 
go downstairs to use the litter box and come back up with no problem. 
I of course kept her bed close to the wall so no one would step on 
her. I think we felt sorrier for her than she did...she adjusted so 
well and it really didn't seem to bother her and we knew she was 
totally blind in both eyes. She responded to our voice just like 
before. She was an only cat so that probably helped her feel secure. 
And thankfully when she left us, she just went to sleep one afternoon 
and did not wake up.


Ardy


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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of Amani Oakley

Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 10:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone

Robert

I recommend that you have the vet surgically remove the eye. You would 
be surprised at how quickly a cat will adjust to this, and the pain 
will stop immediately. I had this experience with one of my cats, who 
also had severe uveitis when I got her, and there was just nothing 
that worked, and the eye was really bad.


In the meantime, there are two techniques you might want to try to 
help with pain and controlling infection:


1.	Try putting contact lens saline in the eyes. This is soothing and 
has a tiny bit of disinfectant which is obviously safe for the eyes;
2.	Try putting a used tea bag (warm) on the eye. Only use it once 
before discarding it.


Also, ask the vet for buprenorphine in a transdermal cream. This will 
help tremendously with the pain. Get the vet to obtain it from a 
compounding pharmacy.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of ROBERT CHAPEL

Sent: September-25-16 3:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone


I'm really at my wits end as to how much more to put my little guy (
Yogi) through  I adopted him 7 months ago and he has had something 
causing him pain at least 5 of them..   I put him on high doses of 
ocular Prednisolone to try to spare his vision after a severe Uveitis( 
bilateral but worse in the right eye) and the Vet said it would likely 
have to be given chronicallyVERY unfortunately he developed a 

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 38

2016-09-28 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL

Liz
Personally...I think death is a rather negative side effect of NOT 
trying everything possible I do NOT understand the reluctance of 
Vets to prescribe drugs that they generally do not use if they are not 
offering any viable alternative.. My Yogi, for eg, is going 
blindOne Vet, understandably, didn't want to use prednisolone for 
his very severe uveitis because it has the potential to cause a variety 
of eye problemsOK I understand..BUT she was not offering any 
alternativeit is SO darn frustrating... another vet in the practice 
did prescribe prednisolone and it worked marvelously for 4 months and 
brought him back from near total blindness. Sadly... he developed a 
severe corneal ulcer and ist looking now( since I've had to D/C the 
prednisolone( that the Uveitis is returning along with having a corneal 
ulcer. I could have NOT used the pred... but he would have been in 
terrible pain the entire time AND blind On balance I could not be 
happier that I was able to give him a few months more of vision..  
Now we are really at an impasse. Point is...  a lot of vets are 
quite closed minded and if you have the money shop vets until you find 
one that WILL work with you..ask anyone and everyone that has a FeLV 
cat... or any cat with complicated problems ( people with generally 
healthy cats who tell you they love their vets are legionANY vet can 
easily handle a healthy cat with minor issues occasionally how they 
handle the complicated problem cases is what is important. I know 
the frustration and sadness of trying to get you boy back on track and 
having to battle the damn vet in order to do this just adds another 
level of stress.  I'm sorry for your trouble and wish you both the 
best

Bob
Warwick NY


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Eye Problems and Prednisolone (Ardy Robertson)
   2. Re: Eye Problems and Prednisolone (Ardy Robertson)
   3. Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37 (Liz McCarty)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:35:38 -0500
From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and 
Prednisolone

Message-ID: <021a01d21931$0028a000$0079e000$@centurytel.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="utf-8"

I had a blind cat (Dodsie) who lived to be 19. Since she already knew 
our house, she adjusted to being blind so well. She walked around 
rooms close to the outer walls, almost touching them. She was able to 
go downstairs to use the litter box and come back up with no problem. 
I of course kept her bed close to the wall so no one would step on 
her. I think we felt sorrier for her than she did...she adjusted so 
well and it really didn't seem to bother her and we knew she was 
totally blind in both eyes. She responded to our voice just like 
before. She was an only cat so that probably helped her feel secure. 
And thankfully when she left us, she just went to sleep one afternoon 
and did not wake up.


Ardy


-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of Amani Oakley

Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 10:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and Prednisolone

Robert

I recommend that you have the vet surgically remove the eye. You would 
be surprised at how quickly a cat will adjust to this, and the pain 
will stop immediately. I had this experience with one of my cats, who 
also had severe uveitis when I got her, and there was just nothing 
that worked, and the eye was really bad.


In the meantime, there are two techniques you might want to try to 
help with pain and controlling infection:


1.	Try putting contact lens saline in the eyes. This is soothing and 
has a tiny bit of disinfectant which is obviously safe for the eyes;
2.	Try putting a used tea bag (warm) on the eye. Only use it once 
before discarding it.


Also, ask the vet for buprenorphine in a transdermal cream. This will 
help tremendously with the pain. Get the vet to obtain it from a 
compounding pharmacy.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of ROBERT CHAPEL

Sent: September-25-16 3:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eye Problems and