Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves 
Just note that with cats, who lack the liver enzyme to process toxins the
way humans and doggies can, the toxic buildup is over time.

On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Sharyl  wrote:

> I've been using Revolution on my 13 house rescues for a yr now with no
> problems.  Age ranges from kittens to 19 yr old.  I like that there is a
> size for under 5 lbs for my kittens.   It really depends on the cat.
> Sharyl
>
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>

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Sharyl 
I've been using Revolution on my 13 house rescues for a yr now with no 
problems.  Age ranges from kittens to 19 yr old.  I like that there is a size 
for under 5 lbs for my kittens.   It really depends on the cat.
Sharyl
 


 From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products
  

Definitely; my vet said that cats had convulsions from Revolution – it treats 
so many things, contains more poisons!
 
From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn 
Hargreaves
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 12:53 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products
 
Advantage is safer than is Revolution for cats, or so my then-vet said.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM,  wrote:
I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE APPLICATION 
POINT.  THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE.  NOT TOO FOUND OF THAT.  VET 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Lee Evans 
I thought Interceptor was only for dogs and that they haven't developed the cat 
type yet. Could you email us the ingredients of the cat type?  I'm very 
interested because when I'm treating for fleas in the late fall and winter, I 
have to wait to be sure there will be 3 days in a row without rain. My outside 
cats think they are Gene Kelly, bouncing around to a tune in their head, 
"Singing in the Rain". And it's so much easier to give a pill in a spoonful of 
ice cream then climb walls and run across the ceiling chasing after that last 
cat who does not want his dose of Frontline Plus. In addition, it's almost 
impossible to treat my house ferals.  I managed to treat one of them on 
occasion and the one treated turned around and treated me to a 5" long scratch 
on my arm.


 
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 From: "longhornf...@verizon.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products
 
Same thing happened to one of my cats with Revolution. But his fur did not come 
back white. It eventually grew back to his normal color. By the way, 
Interceptor is a pill for both dogs & cats. I will no longer give topical 
applications for treatment.
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From: 
Sender: "Felvtalk" 
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:51:30 
To: 
Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products

I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE APPLICATION 
POINT.  THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE.  NOT TOO FOUND OF THAT.  VET 
AGREED AND WE STOPPED IT.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds.  The ones who are on the 
> cat die.  The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die.  The ones 
> who lay eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune to a 
> product?  Unless Super Flea survives the treatment and goes on to reproduce.  
> But it's probably a good idea to switch products any way.  Some are good for 
> treating heavy flea infestations (Frontline Plus) and some have mange, worm 
> prevention also, Revolution.  I have not had good results with Revolution on 
> fleas although it's great for preventing mange and sometimes reducing 
> infestation of earmites.  I find that Advantage is also good for heavy flea 
> infestation but I haven't tried it yet.  I have Frontline Plus right now and 
> am on my way to treat the little lions, tigers and panthers.


 
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From: Beth 
To: FeLV Talk  
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products





Well I Googled before & did again. The only thing I can find is that some cats 
are more prone to Moxidectin toxicity, which is why you have to be so careful 
about dosages.
The Multi formula has meds for fleas - Imidacloprid & heartworm larvae - 
Moxidectin

Either way the dog Multi has bit had much effect on my cats this year. I've 
heard some people say you should switch products periodically to keep the fleas 
from becoming immune to the
meds.

Beth


 
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From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products



It's been a while since I read that about the dog Multi, however I doubt 
they've changed ingredients.  I can't remember what ingredient it is in the dog 
multi that's bad for cats.  I found the info online though so I know it's out 
there.  Maybe what I read was wrong though.  Find out what ingredient is bad 
and ask your vet if he knows the dog multi has that ingredient in there and 
tell him someone told you it was bad for cats.  I'd go back and look it up if I 
had time but I've got to get back to work cause the CPAs will be here Monday to 
audit the books for my company. 
 
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:56:46 -0700
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working


 
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From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Natalie 
That's what happened to cockroaches - they survived since the Ice Age, and
requires more lethal stuff to kill them


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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lorrie
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 6:45 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

Yes the surviving fleas become super fleas and the treatments we now use
don't bother them.  When they breed their offspring are also super fleas.
The same thing is happening with antibiotics. They have been overused and
bacteria has become super bacteria that nothing kills!
This is really scary!!

Lorrie

On 10-05, Beth wrote:
>I guess that is the problem - they are survivng the treatment. They are
>surviving in droves at my house. I have to flea comb every other day.
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Natalie 
Definitely; my vet said that cats had convulsions from Revolution – it treats 
so many things, contains more poisons!

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 12:53 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

 

Advantage is safer than is Revolution for cats, or so my then-vet said.

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM,  wrote:

I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE APPLICATION 
POINT.  THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE.  NOT TOO FOUND OF THAT.  VET 
AGREED AND WE STOPPED IT.


 Lee Evans  wrote:
> I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds.  The ones who are on the 
> cat die.  The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die.  The ones 
> who lay eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune to a 
> product?  Unless Super Flea survives the treatment and goes on to reproduce.  
> But it's probably a good idea to switch products any way.  Some are good for 
> treating heavy flea infestations (Frontline Plus) and some have mange, worm 
> prevention also, Revolution.  I have not had good results with Revolution on 
> fleas although it's great for preventing mange and sometimes reducing 
> infestation of earmites.  I find that Advantage is also good for heavy flea 
> infestation but I haven't tried it yet.  I have Frontline Plus right now and 
> am on my way to treat the little lions, tigers and panthers.
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!


 From: Beth 
To: FeLV Talk 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products

Well I Googled before & did again. The only thing I can find is that some cats 
are more prone to Moxidectin toxicity, which is why you have to be so careful 
about dosages.
The Multi formula has meds for fleas - Imidacloprid & heartworm larvae - 
Moxidectin

Either way the dog Multi has bit had much effect on my cats this year. I've 
heard some people say you should switch products periodically to keep the fleas 
from becoming immune to the
 meds.

Beth




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“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



 




 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread longhornfans 
Same thing happened to one of my cats with Revolution. But his fur did not come 
back white. It eventually grew back to his normal color. By the way, 
Interceptor is a pill for both dogs & cats. I will no longer give topical 
applications for treatment.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: 
Sender: "Felvtalk" 
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:51:30 
To: 
Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products

I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE APPLICATION 
POINT.  THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE.  NOT TOO FOUND OF THAT.  VET 
AGREED AND WE STOPPED IT.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds.  The ones who are on the 
> cat die.  The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die.  The ones 
> who lay eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune to a 
> product?  Unless Super Flea survives the treatment and goes on to reproduce.  
> But it's probably a good idea to switch products any way.  Some are good for 
> treating heavy flea infestations (Frontline Plus) and some have mange, worm 
> prevention also, Revolution.  I have not had good results with Revolution on 
> fleas although it's great for preventing mange and sometimes reducing 
> infestation of earmites.  I find that Advantage is also good for heavy flea 
> infestation but I haven't tried it yet.  I have Frontline Plus right now and 
> am on my way to treat the little lions, tigers and panthers.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Beth 
To: FeLV Talk  
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products
 




Well I Googled before & did again. The only thing I can find is that some cats 
are more prone to Moxidectin toxicity, which is why you have to be so careful 
about dosages.
The Multi formula has meds for fleas - Imidacloprid & heartworm larvae - 
Moxidectin

Either way the dog Multi has bit had much effect on my cats this year. I've 
heard some people say you should switch products periodically to keep the fleas 
from becoming immune to the
 meds.

Beth


 
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 From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 

 
It's been a while since I read that about the dog Multi, however I doubt 
they've changed ingredients.  I can't remember what ingredient it is in the dog 
multi that's bad for cats.  I found the info online though so I know it's out 
there.  Maybe what I read was wrong though.  Find out what ingredient is bad 
and ask your vet if he knows the dog multi has that ingredient in there and 
tell him someone told you it was bad for cats.  I'd go back and look it up if I 
had time but I've got to get back to work cause the CPAs will be here Monday to 
audit the books for my company. 
 
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



 Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:56:46 -0700
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working


 
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 From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


 
Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats.  Regular 
Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the "Multi."  
Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats.  Obviously the cat "Multi" 
is okay.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 






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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Lorrie 
Yes the surviving fleas become super fleas and the treatments we now
use don't bother them.  When they breed their offspring are also super
fleas.  The same thing is happening with antibiotics. They have been 
overused and bacteria has become super bacteria that nothing kills!
This is really scary!!

Lorrie

On 10-05, Beth wrote:
>I guess that is the problem - they are survivng the treatment. They are
>surviving in droves at my house. I have to flea comb every other day.
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Beth 
My vet won't even sell Revolution. She said there are too many problems.

Kathryn Hargreaves  wrote:

>Advantage is safer than is Revolution for cats, or so my then-vet said.
>
>On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM,  wrote:
>
>> I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE
>> APPLICATION POINT.  THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE.  NOT TOO FOUND
>> OF THAT.  VET AGREED AND WE STOPPED IT.
>>
>>  Lee Evans  wrote:
>> > I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds.  The ones who are on
>> the cat die.  The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die.  The
>> ones who lay eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune
>> to a product?  Unless Super Flea survives the treatment and goes on to
>> reproduce.  But it's probably a good idea to switch products any way.  Some
>> are good for treating heavy flea infestations (Frontline Plus) and some
>> have mange, worm prevention also, Revolution.  I have not had good results
>> with Revolution on fleas although it's great for preventing mange and
>> sometimes reducing infestation of earmites.  I find that Advantage is also
>> good for heavy flea infestation but I haven't tried it yet.  I have
>> Frontline Plus right now and am on my way to treat the little lions, tigers
>> and panthers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
>> neighbors too!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>  From: Beth 
>> To: FeLV Talk 
>> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:06 PM
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Well I Googled before & did again. The only thing I can find is that some
>> cats are more prone to Moxidectin toxicity, which is why you have to be so
>> careful about dosages.
>> The Multi formula has meds for fleas - Imidacloprid & heartworm larvae -
>> Moxidectin
>>
>> Either way the dog Multi has bit had much effect on my cats this year.
>> I've heard some people say you should switch products periodically to keep
>> the fleas from becoming immune to the
>>  meds.
>>
>> Beth
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>  From: Maureen Olvey 
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
>>
>>
>>
>> It's been a while since I read that about the dog Multi, however I doubt
>> they've changed ingredients.  I can't remember what ingredient it is in the
>> dog multi that's bad for cats.  I found the info online though so I know
>> it's out there.  Maybe what I read was wrong though.  Find out what
>> ingredient is bad and ask your vet if he knows the dog multi has that
>> ingredient in there and tell him someone told you it was bad for cats.  I'd
>> go back and look it up if I had time but I've got to get back to work cause
>> the CPAs will be here Monday to audit the books for my company.
>>
>> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
>> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon
>> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
>> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark
>> Twain
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>  Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:56:46 -0700
>> From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
>>
>>
>> Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>  From: Maureen Olvey 
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
>>
>>
>>
>> Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats.
>> Regular Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the
>> "Multi."  Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats.  Obviously
>> the cat "Multi" is okay.
>>
>> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
>> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon
>> un

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves 
Advantage is safer than is Revolution for cats, or so my then-vet said.

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM,  wrote:

> I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE
> APPLICATION POINT.  THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE.  NOT TOO FOUND
> OF THAT.  VET AGREED AND WE STOPPED IT.
>
>  Lee Evans  wrote:
> > I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds.  The ones who are on
> the cat die.  The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die.  The
> ones who lay eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune
> to a product?  Unless Super Flea survives the treatment and goes on to
> reproduce.  But it's probably a good idea to switch products any way.  Some
> are good for treating heavy flea infestations (Frontline Plus) and some
> have mange, worm prevention also, Revolution.  I have not had good results
> with Revolution on fleas although it's great for preventing mange and
> sometimes reducing infestation of earmites.  I find that Advantage is also
> good for heavy flea infestation but I haven't tried it yet.  I have
> Frontline Plus right now and am on my way to treat the little lions, tigers
> and panthers.
>
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
>
>
> ________
>  From: Beth 
> To: FeLV Talk 
> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:06 PM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products
>
>
>
>
>
> Well I Googled before & did again. The only thing I can find is that some
> cats are more prone to Moxidectin toxicity, which is why you have to be so
> careful about dosages.
> The Multi formula has meds for fleas - Imidacloprid & heartworm larvae -
> Moxidectin
>
> Either way the dog Multi has bit had much effect on my cats this year.
> I've heard some people say you should switch products periodically to keep
> the fleas from becoming immune to the
>  meds.
>
> Beth
>
>
>
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Maureen Olvey 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
>
>
>
> It's been a while since I read that about the dog Multi, however I doubt
> they've changed ingredients.  I can't remember what ingredient it is in the
> dog multi that's bad for cats.  I found the info online though so I know
> it's out there.  Maybe what I read was wrong though.  Find out what
> ingredient is bad and ask your vet if he knows the dog multi has that
> ingredient in there and tell him someone told you it was bad for cats.  I'd
> go back and look it up if I had time but I've got to get back to work cause
> the CPAs will be here Monday to audit the books for my company.
>
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark
> Twain
>
>
>
> 
>  Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:56:46 -0700
> From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
>
>
> Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working
>
>
>
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Maureen Olvey 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
>
>
>
> Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats.
> Regular Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the
> "Multi."  Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats.  Obviously
> the cat "Multi" is okay.
>
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark
> Twain
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Joslin Potter 
I agree, my girlfriend went to vet in dispair trying to find something to help 
her cats rid of the fleas and they offered her a discount for Revolution, once 
upon her cats they too began losing their fur at the site of application, what 
was worse some of them were fighting her to put on so it was patchy. It's still 
not grown in correctly like before.

 


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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products
  
I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE APPLICATION 
POINT.  THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE.  NOT TOO FOUND OF THAT.  VET 
AGREED AND WE STOPPED IT.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds.  The ones who are on the 
> cat die.  The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die.  The ones 
> who lay eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune to a 
> product?  Unless Super Flea survives the treatment and goes on to reproduce.  
> But it's probably a good idea to switch products any way.  Some are good for 
> treating heavy flea infestations (Frontline Plus) and some have mange, worm 
> prevention also, Revolution.  I have not had good results with Revolution on 
> fleas although it's great for preventing mange and sometimes reducing 
> infestation of earmites.  I find that Advantage is also good for heavy flea 
> infestation but I haven't tried it yet.  I have Frontline Plus right now and 
> am on my way to treat the little lions, tigers and panthers.


 
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too!





From: Beth 
To: FeLV Talk  
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products





Well I Googled before & did again. The only thing I can find is that some cats 
are more prone to Moxidectin toxicity, which is why you have to be so careful 
about dosages.
The Multi formula has meds for fleas - Imidacloprid & heartworm larvae - 
Moxidectin

Either way the dog Multi has bit had much effect on my cats this year. I've 
heard some people say you should switch products periodically to keep the fleas 
from becoming immune to the
meds.

Beth


 
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From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products



It's been a while since I read that about the dog Multi, however I doubt 
they've changed ingredients.  I can't remember what ingredient it is in the dog 
multi that's bad for cats.  I found the info online though so I know it's out 
there.  Maybe what I read was wrong though.  Find out what ingredient is bad 
and ask your vet if he knows the dog multi has that ingredient in there and 
tell him someone told you it was bad for cats.  I'd go back and look it up if I 
had time but I've got to get back to work cause the CPAs will be here Monday to 
audit the books for my company. 
 
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:56:46 -0700
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working


 
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From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products



Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats.  Regular 
Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the "Multi."  
Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats.  Obviously the cat "Multi" 
is okay.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 






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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread dlgegg 
I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE APPLICATION 
POINT.  THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE.  NOT TOO FOUND OF THAT.  VET 
AGREED AND WE STOPPED IT.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds.  The ones who are on the 
> cat die.  The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die.  The ones 
> who lay eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune to a 
> product?  Unless Super Flea survives the treatment and goes on to reproduce.  
> But it's probably a good idea to switch products any way.  Some are good for 
> treating heavy flea infestations (Frontline Plus) and some have mange, worm 
> prevention also, Revolution.  I have not had good results with Revolution on 
> fleas although it's great for preventing mange and sometimes reducing 
> infestation of earmites.  I find that Advantage is also good for heavy flea 
> infestation but I haven't tried it yet.  I have Frontline Plus right now and 
> am on my way to treat the little lions, tigers and panthers.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Beth 
To: FeLV Talk  
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products
 




Well I Googled before & did again. The only thing I can find is that some cats 
are more prone to Moxidectin toxicity, which is why you have to be so careful 
about dosages.
The Multi formula has meds for fleas - Imidacloprid & heartworm larvae - 
Moxidectin

Either way the dog Multi has bit had much effect on my cats this year. I've 
heard some people say you should switch products periodically to keep the fleas 
from becoming immune to the
 meds.

Beth


 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 

 
It's been a while since I read that about the dog Multi, however I doubt 
they've changed ingredients.  I can't remember what ingredient it is in the dog 
multi that's bad for cats.  I found the info online though so I know it's out 
there.  Maybe what I read was wrong though.  Find out what ingredient is bad 
and ask your vet if he knows the dog multi has that ingredient in there and 
tell him someone told you it was bad for cats.  I'd go back and look it up if I 
had time but I've got to get back to work cause the CPAs will be here Monday to 
audit the books for my company. 
 
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



 Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:56:46 -0700
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working


 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


 
Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats.  Regular 
Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the "Multi."  
Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats.  Obviously the cat "Multi" 
is okay.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 






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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Beth 
I guess that is the problem - they are survivng the treatment. They are 
surviving in droves at my house. I have to flea comb every other day.

 
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 From: Lee Evans 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products
 

I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds.  The ones who are on the cat 
die.  The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die.  The ones who lay 
eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune to a product?  
Unless Super Flea survives the treatment and goes on to reproduce.  But it's 
probably a good idea to switch products any way.  Some are good for treating 
heavy flea infestations (Frontline Plus) and some have mange, worm prevention 
also, Revolution.  I have not had good results with Revolution on fleas 
although it's great for preventing mange and sometimes reducing infestation of 
earmites.  I find that Advantage is also good for heavy flea infestation but I 
haven't tried it yet.  I have Frontline Plus right now and am on my way to 
treat the little lions, tigers and panthers.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Beth 
To: FeLV Talk  
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products
 




Well I Googled before & did again. The only thing I can find is that some cats 
are more prone to Moxidectin toxicity, which is why you have to be so careful 
about dosages.
The Multi formula has meds for fleas - Imidacloprid &
 heartworm larvae - Moxidectin

Either way the dog Multi has bit had much effect on my cats this year. I've 
heard some people say you should switch products periodically to keep the fleas 
from becoming immune to the
 meds.

Beth


 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 

 
It's been a while since I read that about the dog Multi, however I doubt 
they've changed ingredients.  I can't remember what ingredient it is in the dog 
multi that's bad for cats.  I found the info online though so I know it's out 
there.  Maybe what I read was wrong though.  Find out what ingredient is bad 
and ask your vet if he knows the dog multi has that ingredient in there and 
tell him someone told you it was bad for cats.  I'd go back and look it up if I 
had time but I've got to get back to work cause the CPAs will be here Monday to 
audit the books for my company. 
 
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



 Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:56:46 -0700
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working


 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


 
Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats.  Regular 
Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the "Multi."  
Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats.  Obviously the cat "Multi" 
is okay.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 






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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans 
I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds.  The ones who are on the cat 
die.  The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die.  The ones who lay 
eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune to a product?  
Unless Super Flea survives the treatment and goes on to reproduce.  But it's 
probably a good idea to switch products any way.  Some are good for treating 
heavy flea infestations (Frontline Plus) and some have mange, worm prevention 
also, Revolution.  I have not had good results with Revolution on fleas 
although it's great for preventing mange and sometimes reducing infestation of 
earmites.  I find that Advantage is also good for heavy flea infestation but I 
haven't tried it yet.  I have Frontline Plus right now and am on my way to 
treat the little lions, tigers and panthers.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Beth 
To: FeLV Talk  
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Flea Products
 




Well I Googled before & did again. The only thing I can find is that some cats 
are more prone to Moxidectin toxicity, which is why you have to be so careful 
about dosages.
The Multi formula has meds for fleas - Imidacloprid & heartworm larvae - 
Moxidectin

Either way the dog Multi has bit had much effect on my cats this year. I've 
heard some people say you should switch products periodically to keep the fleas 
from becoming immune to the
 meds.

Beth


 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 

 
It's been a while since I read that about the dog Multi, however I doubt 
they've changed ingredients.  I can't remember what ingredient it is in the dog 
multi that's bad for cats.  I found the info online though so I know it's out 
there.  Maybe what I read was wrong though.  Find out what ingredient is bad 
and ask your vet if he knows the dog multi has that ingredient in there and 
tell him someone told you it was bad for cats.  I'd go back and look it up if I 
had time but I've got to get back to work cause the CPAs will be here Monday to 
audit the books for my company. 
 
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



 Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:56:46 -0700
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working


 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


 
Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats.  Regular 
Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the "Multi."  
Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats.  Obviously the cat "Multi" 
is okay.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 






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[Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Beth 



Well I Googled before & did again. The only thing I can find is that some cats 
are more prone to Moxidectin toxicity, which is why you have to be so careful 
about dosages.
The Multi formula has meds for fleas - Imidacloprid & heartworm larvae - 
Moxidectin

Either way the dog Multi has bit had much effect on my cats this year. I've 
heard some people say you should switch products periodically to keep the fleas 
from becoming immune to the meds.

Beth


 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 

 
It's been a while since I read that about the dog Multi, however I doubt 
they've changed ingredients.  I can't remember what ingredient it is in the dog 
multi that's bad for cats.  I found the info online though so I know it's out 
there.  Maybe what I read was wrong though.  Find out what ingredient is bad 
and ask your vet if he knows the dog multi has that ingredient in there and 
tell him someone told you it was bad for cats.  I'd go back and look it up if I 
had time but I've got to get back to work cause the CPAs will be here Monday to 
audit the books for my company. 
 
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



 Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:56:46 -0700
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working


 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


 
Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats.  Regular 
Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the "Multi."  
Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats.  Obviously the cat "Multi" 
is okay.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 


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