Re: [Felvtalk] Noisy purr
Right, an echocardiogram looks at the heart. However, I’m fairly certain that’s all it looks at. When Ember’s symptoms of labored breathing and pale membranes came up, the vet wanted to send her to a clinic for an ultrasound to look at her lungs/mediastinum/thorax and get a fine needle aspirate of whatever it was that showed up on the x-rays. This is pretty difficult to do, but it can be done. On Jun 4, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Katherine K. wrote: > Thanks for the clarification, Marsha! He got an ultrasound/echocardiogram. > Heart looked normal. > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Marsha wrote: > EKG or ECG is for electrocardiogram, where electrodes patches are placed and > electrical impulses traced to view the pattern of heart rhythm. > ECHOcardiogram, is an ultrasound of the heart to actually visualize the heart > as it's pumping. > > Marsha > > > On 6/4/2014 11:57 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > Actually, when I said EKG I meant ultrasound. Or, are they the same? We did > the xray first, then the ultrasound/EKG to get a closer look. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Noisy purr
Re-reading your post, it sounds like your cat had an Echocardiogram. I'm not aware of any initials for that, but I've heard it shortened to "echo". I've had 2 or 3 of them. And quite a few ECG or EKGs. Both stand for electrocardiogram. I only ever heard EKG when I was younger, but in more recent years, I hear ECG being used more. But they're the same thing. Marsha On 6/4/2014 11:57 AM, Katherine K. wrote: Actually, when I said EKG I meant ultrasound. Or, are they the same? We did the xray first, then the ultrasound/EKG to get a closer look. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Noisy purr
Thanks for the clarification, Marsha! He got an ultrasound/echocardiogram. Heart looked normal. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Marsha wrote: > EKG or ECG is for electrocardiogram, where electrodes patches are placed > and electrical impulses traced to view the pattern of heart rhythm. > ECHOcardiogram, is an ultrasound of the heart to actually visualize the > heart as it's pumping. > > Marsha > > > On 6/4/2014 11:57 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > >> Actually, when I said EKG I meant ultrasound. Or, are they the same? We >> did the xray first, then the ultrasound/EKG to get a closer look. >> >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Noisy purr
EKG or ECG is for electrocardiogram, where electrodes patches are placed and electrical impulses traced to view the pattern of heart rhythm. ECHOcardiogram, is an ultrasound of the heart to actually visualize the heart as it's pumping. Marsha On 6/4/2014 11:57 AM, Katherine K. wrote: Actually, when I said EKG I meant ultrasound. Or, are they the same? We did the xray first, then the ultrasound/EKG to get a closer look. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Noisy purr
Actually, when I said EKG I meant ultrasound. Or, are they the same? We did the xray first, then the ultrasound/EKG to get a closer look. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Lance wrote: > Personal layman’s opinion: If I could, I would do another x-ray in a month > or if symptoms worsen or change in a worrisome way. If things get better, > I’d trust the vet and what you know now. If they do worsen, I’d consider > trying to get an ultrasound, though it’s going to be difficult. Ultrasounds > don’t like the air that inevitably comes with lungs, but my understanding > is that a lot of that area can be scanned by an experienced operator. > > Best hopes for your cat. > > Lance > > On Jun 4, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > > No, we just did the test for hyperthyroidism. His blood panel last year > looked pretty normal. Forgot also to say his blood pressure was normal, and > that he sometimes has wheezing spells. But vet has checked xrays for asthma > in the past and not found anything. > > He was diagnosed with FeLV last July, so close to 1 year now. > > Good questions about allergies and immune system. I have no idea but he > has always been a little flea allergic, possibly pollen allergic. He's on > monthly Revolution. > > I have not noticed any side effects with LTCI. > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Marsha wrote: > >> Hi Katherine, >> >> I don't have any specific experience with this, but would like to hear >> more about how long he has been FeLV+, and does your cat have any side >> effects with the LTCI? >> >> On allergies, I have one cat that had spring allergies (I think tree >> pollen) that spiraled out of control 2 years ago, and then his immune >> system began to attack his own platelets, and now he is on prednisolone >> probably for life. Not too likely to happen to a FeLV+ cat, I would think. >> But I wonder - do allergies signal an active immune system, even though >> it's attacking the wrong things? Can you have a suppressed immune system, >> and still have allergies? I don't know enough about how that process works. >> >> I'm guessing you did more blood work than for thyroid, and it was all >> pretty normal? >> >> Marsha >> >> >> On 6/4/2014 9:41 AM, Katherine K. wrote: >> >>> My 12 year old FeLV+ cat has been having a slightly noisy, gurgly purr >>> (sounds kind of wet) for about a month now. Some days it is more >>> noticeable, other times it sounds more normal. >>> >>> He had the same problem last year. X-ray showed a spot of pneumonia. A >>> round of zeniquin cleared it up. >>> >>> This time we gave him 2 weeks of zeniquin. X ray showed some >>> "congestion" (grayer areas) at the upper portion of his lungs, but >>> vet/radiologist said it could also simply have been that he exhaled during >>> the film. Xray did not indicate enlarged lymph nodes or fluid build up. >>> Radiologist not overly concerned about that area as being abnormal >>> clinically. >>> >>> He also got an EKG to look at his heart - everything looked normal. >>> >>> Did a blood test for thyroid levels - also normal. >>> >>> He was doing some swallowing/licking his lips last night. Vet suggested >>> post-nasal drip. >>> >>> He does tend to have some slight spring allergies - dandruff, occasional >>> itchy spots around eyes/ears. So could just be allergies. >>> >>> He takes LTCI injections once a month. >>> >>> Eating, energy level, bathroom habits all normal. Anyone else ever have >>> a cat that had this problem? >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Noisy purr
Personal layman’s opinion: If I could, I would do another x-ray in a month or if symptoms worsen or change in a worrisome way. If things get better, I’d trust the vet and what you know now. If they do worsen, I’d consider trying to get an ultrasound, though it’s going to be difficult. Ultrasounds don’t like the air that inevitably comes with lungs, but my understanding is that a lot of that area can be scanned by an experienced operator. Best hopes for your cat. Lance On Jun 4, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > No, we just did the test for hyperthyroidism. His blood panel last year > looked pretty normal. Forgot also to say his blood pressure was normal, and > that he sometimes has wheezing spells. But vet has checked xrays for asthma > in the past and not found anything. > > He was diagnosed with FeLV last July, so close to 1 year now. > > Good questions about allergies and immune system. I have no idea but he has > always been a little flea allergic, possibly pollen allergic. He's on monthly > Revolution. > > I have not noticed any side effects with LTCI. > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Marsha wrote: > Hi Katherine, > > I don't have any specific experience with this, but would like to hear more > about how long he has been FeLV+, and does your cat have any side effects > with the LTCI? > > On allergies, I have one cat that had spring allergies (I think tree pollen) > that spiraled out of control 2 years ago, and then his immune system began to > attack his own platelets, and now he is on prednisolone probably for life. > Not too likely to happen to a FeLV+ cat, I would think. But I wonder - do > allergies signal an active immune system, even though it's attacking the > wrong things? Can you have a suppressed immune system, and still have > allergies? I don't know enough about how that process works. > > I'm guessing you did more blood work than for thyroid, and it was all pretty > normal? > > Marsha > > > On 6/4/2014 9:41 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > My 12 year old FeLV+ cat has been having a slightly noisy, gurgly purr > (sounds kind of wet) for about a month now. Some days it is more noticeable, > other times it sounds more normal. > > He had the same problem last year. X-ray showed a spot of pneumonia. A round > of zeniquin cleared it up. > > This time we gave him 2 weeks of zeniquin. X ray showed some "congestion" > (grayer areas) at the upper portion of his lungs, but vet/radiologist said it > could also simply have been that he exhaled during the film. Xray did not > indicate enlarged lymph nodes or fluid build up. Radiologist not overly > concerned about that area as being abnormal clinically. > > He also got an EKG to look at his heart - everything looked normal. > > Did a blood test for thyroid levels - also normal. > > He was doing some swallowing/licking his lips last night. Vet suggested > post-nasal drip. > > He does tend to have some slight spring allergies - dandruff, occasional > itchy spots around eyes/ears. So could just be allergies. > > He takes LTCI injections once a month. > > Eating, energy level, bathroom habits all normal. Anyone else ever have a cat > that had this problem? > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Noisy purr
No, we just did the test for hyperthyroidism. His blood panel last year looked pretty normal. Forgot also to say his blood pressure was normal, and that he sometimes has wheezing spells. But vet has checked xrays for asthma in the past and not found anything. He was diagnosed with FeLV last July, so close to 1 year now. Good questions about allergies and immune system. I have no idea but he has always been a little flea allergic, possibly pollen allergic. He's on monthly Revolution. I have not noticed any side effects with LTCI. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Marsha wrote: > Hi Katherine, > > I don't have any specific experience with this, but would like to hear > more about how long he has been FeLV+, and does your cat have any side > effects with the LTCI? > > On allergies, I have one cat that had spring allergies (I think tree > pollen) that spiraled out of control 2 years ago, and then his immune > system began to attack his own platelets, and now he is on prednisolone > probably for life. Not too likely to happen to a FeLV+ cat, I would think. > But I wonder - do allergies signal an active immune system, even though > it's attacking the wrong things? Can you have a suppressed immune system, > and still have allergies? I don't know enough about how that process works. > > I'm guessing you did more blood work than for thyroid, and it was all > pretty normal? > > Marsha > > > On 6/4/2014 9:41 AM, Katherine K. wrote: > >> My 12 year old FeLV+ cat has been having a slightly noisy, gurgly purr >> (sounds kind of wet) for about a month now. Some days it is more >> noticeable, other times it sounds more normal. >> >> He had the same problem last year. X-ray showed a spot of pneumonia. A >> round of zeniquin cleared it up. >> >> This time we gave him 2 weeks of zeniquin. X ray showed some "congestion" >> (grayer areas) at the upper portion of his lungs, but vet/radiologist said >> it could also simply have been that he exhaled during the film. Xray did >> not indicate enlarged lymph nodes or fluid build up. Radiologist not overly >> concerned about that area as being abnormal clinically. >> >> He also got an EKG to look at his heart - everything looked normal. >> >> Did a blood test for thyroid levels - also normal. >> >> He was doing some swallowing/licking his lips last night. Vet suggested >> post-nasal drip. >> >> He does tend to have some slight spring allergies - dandruff, occasional >> itchy spots around eyes/ears. So could just be allergies. >> >> He takes LTCI injections once a month. >> >> Eating, energy level, bathroom habits all normal. Anyone else ever have a >> cat that had this problem? >> > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Noisy purr
Hi Katherine, I don't have any specific experience with this, but would like to hear more about how long he has been FeLV+, and does your cat have any side effects with the LTCI? On allergies, I have one cat that had spring allergies (I think tree pollen) that spiraled out of control 2 years ago, and then his immune system began to attack his own platelets, and now he is on prednisolone probably for life. Not too likely to happen to a FeLV+ cat, I would think. But I wonder - do allergies signal an active immune system, even though it's attacking the wrong things? Can you have a suppressed immune system, and still have allergies? I don't know enough about how that process works. I'm guessing you did more blood work than for thyroid, and it was all pretty normal? Marsha On 6/4/2014 9:41 AM, Katherine K. wrote: My 12 year old FeLV+ cat has been having a slightly noisy, gurgly purr (sounds kind of wet) for about a month now. Some days it is more noticeable, other times it sounds more normal. He had the same problem last year. X-ray showed a spot of pneumonia. A round of zeniquin cleared it up. This time we gave him 2 weeks of zeniquin. X ray showed some "congestion" (grayer areas) at the upper portion of his lungs, but vet/radiologist said it could also simply have been that he exhaled during the film. Xray did not indicate enlarged lymph nodes or fluid build up. Radiologist not overly concerned about that area as being abnormal clinically. He also got an EKG to look at his heart - everything looked normal. Did a blood test for thyroid levels - also normal. He was doing some swallowing/licking his lips last night. Vet suggested post-nasal drip. He does tend to have some slight spring allergies - dandruff, occasional itchy spots around eyes/ears. So could just be allergies. He takes LTCI injections once a month. Eating, energy level, bathroom habits all normal. Anyone else ever have a cat that had this problem? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Noisy purr
Hi everyone, My 12 year old FeLV+ cat has been having a slightly noisy, gurgly purr (sounds kind of wet) for about a month now. Some days it is more noticeable, other times it sounds more normal. He had the same problem last year. X-ray showed a spot of pneumonia. A round of zeniquin cleared it up. This time we gave him 2 weeks of zeniquin. X ray showed some "congestion" (grayer areas) at the upper portion of his lungs, but vet/radiologist said it could also simply have been that he exhaled during the film. Xray did not indicate enlarged lymph nodes or fluid build up. Radiologist not overly concerned about that area as being abnormal clinically. He also got an EKG to look at his heart - everything looked normal. Did a blood test for thyroid levels - also normal. He was doing some swallowing/licking his lips last night. Vet suggested post-nasal drip. He does tend to have some slight spring allergies - dandruff, occasional itchy spots around eyes/ears. So could just be allergies. He takes LTCI injections once a month. Eating, energy level, bathroom habits all normal. Anyone else ever have a cat that had this problem? Katherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
