Re: [Felvtalk] Spice didn't make it
Sorry to hear about Spice - but great way to honor her memory by trying to help those strays. If you can get them fixed and vaccinated early maybe you can keep others from acquiring Leuk. Spice would be proud. Maribel "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -Mohandas Ghandi From: Ardy Robertson To: 'judith cook' ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Spice didn't make it Judy - So sorry to hear about Spice, but she was fortunate to have you! I believe stray kitties “show up on our street” for a reason, they are next in line for a place in your heart. Best of luck.ArdyOn Behalf Of judith cook Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Spice didn't make it I have been putting off and putting off this letter. I had high hopes for Spice. She started out responding well to the treatment, and I really thought that we'd make it. However, after about a month, she suddenly started having trouble breathing. The vet took x-rays, and she had an enlarged heart, was retaining water in her abdomen, and had a tumor on her liver. I decided that she'd had enough, and had her euthanized. She was purring the whole time, and went quietly as I petted her. Thank all of you for your encouragement and your information and your research. I do wish we'd find a sure-fire cure, and REALLY wish people would get their cats vaccinated young. My big cat, Budda, misses her, I can tell, even though they were not close buddies. There are a couple of stray kittens who have showed up in on my street, and I'm going to try to catch and tame them. I've done it before, and contrary to common opinion, I have found that they make fine pets. My best to all of you and your kitties. Judy___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spice didn't make it
Judith I am so sorry. It is heartbreaking, I know. I too wish the vet community would get cracking on finding a cure for this horrible disease, but my experience is that there is very little research or interest in looking into cat health, because too many people consider them disposable and will not spend huge amounts of money on them (unlike dogs). Groups like this one are doing what we can to share our experiences to help others in the same boat, and I so wish we could have helped Spice. But Spice was obviously so loved and she would have known that. My heart is tortured, knowing there are so many others out there who will never know the kindness and love that Spice was lucky enough to have had in her life. And yes. Please go out there and pick up a few stray kittens to tame. Ferals make excellent companions, especially if you can catch them early on. Share your wonderful home with other babies who need one. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of judith cook Sent: August-14-18 4:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Spice didn't make it I have been putting off and putting off this letter. I had high hopes for Spice. She started out responding well to the treatment, and I really thought that we'd make it. However, after about a month, she suddenly started having trouble breathing. The vet took x-rays, and she had an enlarged heart, was retaining water in her abdomen, and had a tumor on her liver. I decided that she'd had enough, and had her euthanized. She was purring the whole time, and went quietly as I petted her. Thank all of you for your encouragement and your information and your research. I do wish we'd find a sure-fire cure, and REALLY wish people would get their cats vaccinated young. My big cat, Budda, misses her, I can tell, even though they were not close buddies. There are a couple of stray kittens who have showed up in on my street, and I'm going to try to catch and tame them. I've done it before, and contrary to common opinion, I have found that they make fine pets. My best to all of you and your kitties. Judy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spice didn't make it
Judy - So sorry to hear about Spice, but she was fortunate to have you! I believe stray kitties “show up on our street” for a reason, they are next in line for a place in your heart. Best of luck. Ardy On Behalf Of judith cook Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Spice didn't make it I have been putting off and putting off this letter. I had high hopes for Spice. She started out responding well to the treatment, and I really thought that we'd make it. However, after about a month, she suddenly started having trouble breathing. The vet took x-rays, and she had an enlarged heart, was retaining water in her abdomen, and had a tumor on her liver. I decided that she'd had enough, and had her euthanized. She was purring the whole time, and went quietly as I petted her. Thank all of you for your encouragement and your information and your research. I do wish we'd find a sure-fire cure, and REALLY wish people would get their cats vaccinated young. My big cat, Budda, misses her, I can tell, even though they were not close buddies. There are a couple of stray kittens who have showed up in on my street, and I'm going to try to catch and tame them. I've done it before, and contrary to common opinion, I have found that they make fine pets. My best to all of you and your kitties. Judy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spice didn't make it
Judy, I am so sorry to learn of your loss. Spice had your love for the time she was with you. Sometimes that is all we can give them. Kat (Mew Jersey) Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 4:26 PM From: "judith cook" To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] Spice didn't make it I have been putting off and putting off this letter. I had high hopes for Spice. She started out responding well to the treatment, and I really thought that we'd make it. However, after about a month, she suddenly started having trouble breathing. The vet took x-rays, and she had an enlarged heart, was retaining water in her abdomen, and had a tumor on her liver. I decided that she'd had enough, and had her euthanized. She was purring the whole time, and went quietly as I petted her. Thank all of you for your encouragement and your information and your research. I do wish we'd find a sure-fire cure, and REALLY wish people would get their cats vaccinated young. My big cat, Budda, misses her, I can tell, even though they were not close buddies. There are a couple of stray kittens who have showed up in on my street, and I'm going to try to catch and tame them. I've done it before, and contrary to common opinion, I have found that they make fine pets. My best to all of you and your kitties. Judy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Spice didn't make it
I have been putting off and putting off this letter. I had high hopes for Spice. She started out responding well to the treatment, and I really thought that we'd make it. However, after about a month, she suddenly started having trouble breathing. The vet took x-rays, and she had an enlarged heart, was retaining water in her abdomen, and had a tumor on her liver. I decided that she'd had enough, and had her euthanized. She was purring the whole time, and went quietly as I petted her. Thank all of you for your encouragement and your information and your research. I do wish we'd find a sure-fire cure, and REALLY wish people would get their cats vaccinated young. My big cat, Budda, misses her, I can tell, even though they were not close buddies. There are a couple of stray kittens who have showed up in on my street, and I'm going to try to catch and tame them. I've done it before, and contrary to common opinion, I have found that they make fine pets. My best to all of you and your kitties. Judy___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spice
Happy Tails!! Been following along - had nothing to add - so happy that vet is willing to try - sure can't hurt. Best of luck Sandy W > On June 20, 2018 at 4:10 PM Amani Oakley wrote: > > > Hi Judith. I think that Diamondback had provided Winstrol in a liquid > form to others on this chatline. I have no experience at all with that so I > cannot comment. My vet uses a compounding pharmacy which makes the Winstrol > in small 1 mg tablets which I find easy to pill. > > > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk On Behalf Of judith > cook > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 4:07 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Spice > > > > I am elated! My vet just called wanting to know the tel.# of Diamondback > Drugs and wanting to verify that the Winstrol comes in tablets that can be > used in 1mg doses. I had assumed that this was the case - am I right? She > had called her regular drug supplier who only had it in 25mg tablets. > Anyway, gave her the tel. #. Spice is already on doxycyline (for 2 days) but > not prednizone. I am so encouraged that my vet is receptive to this > treatment. I suppose because…. well, might as well try it. Please advise, > and thank you all! > > Judy > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spice
Hi Judith. I think that Diamondback had provided Winstrol in a liquid form to others on this chatline. I have no experience at all with that so I cannot comment. My vet uses a compounding pharmacy which makes the Winstrol in small 1 mg tablets which I find easy to pill. Amani From: Felvtalk On Behalf Of judith cook Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 4:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Spice I am elated! My vet just called wanting to know the tel.# of Diamondback Drugs and wanting to verify that the Winstrol comes in tablets that can be used in 1mg doses. I had assumed that this was the case - am I right? She had called her regular drug supplier who only had it in 25mg tablets. Anyway, gave her the tel. #. Spice is already on doxycyline (for 2 days) but not prednizone. I am so encouraged that my vet is receptive to this treatment. I suppose because…. well, might as well try it. Please advise, and thank you all! Judy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Spice
I am elated! My vet just called wanting to know the tel.# of Diamondback Drugs and wanting to verify that the Winstrol comes in tablets that can be used in 1mg doses. I had assumed that this was the case - am I right? She had called her regular drug supplier who only had it in 25mg tablets. Anyway, gave her the tel. #. Spice is already on doxycyline (for 2 days) but not prednizone. I am so encouraged that my vet is receptive to this treatment. I suppose because…. well, might as well try it. Please advise, and thank you all!Judy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spice
Sorry – I should have answered about the duration of treatment too. No, she wouldn’t be on it forever. Monitor the blood work until the anemia is REALLY gone and monitor the blood work after you wean her off the Winstrol. Prepare to put her back on until she stabilizes. Expect an increase in liver function enzymes, but as far as my experience goes, the rise is temporary and the enzymes go back to normal once the Winstrol is discontinued. The duration of time of treatment really just depends on how long it takes for the anemia to resolve, and the red cell indices to remain within the normal reference ranges in a stable fashion. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of judith cook Sent: June-16-18 7:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Spice My cat Spice is a 7 yr. old female calico/torti that I have had for 3 years. She was a stray and tested FeL+ when I first took her to the vet. At the time, she presented no symptoms, and remained that way until January of this year when she stopped eating. At that time she was NOT anemic, and her blood tests showed that she probably had some kind of cold - low fever, and some kind of infection. It took her about three months and some special antibiotics (or some kind of drops) but she recovered, although she has never gotten back her hefty appetite or all of her lost weight. I just took her for her 6 month checkup and her blood test showed some pretty significant anemia, enough that she could get a transfusion. We decided to give her a B12 shot and pills for now, as she does not seem overly sick. Also, it does not seem to me that transfusions do much good for our FeL+ kitties from the posts I've read. I am ready to put her on the Winstrol - doxycycline - prednesolone regimen if I can get it, but I am wondering if it would do any good considering her age. Also, would she have to be on this regimen forever, or would she have periods off of it or would it just depend? When I took Spice in for her "cold" in January, my vet said that she could give my cat steroids but that they might kill her. Do you know anything about that? I know that Winstrol is a steroid. Do you think that the Winstrol-doxycycline-prednesolone is a good idea for Spice or not? I aim thinking yes, if I can get my vet to prescribe some. It seems like Winstrol is a kind of "miracle" medicine (like most steroids) Thank all of you for the information I've gotten from your posts. I am sorry if I am asking redundant questions, but I didn't find those answers from the posts. I want my Spice to live a good life for as long as she can without putting her through all kinds of stress. Thanks again Judy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spice
Judy The Winstrol combo may help regardless of her age. I have had a 16 year old cat with a sarcoma on it, and it helped tremendously with things like appetite and better mood (playing more, etc.) I don’t know why Winstrol wouldn’t work to assist with the anemia just because of age. It doesn’t always work but I have seen some pretty good responses. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of judith cook Sent: June-16-18 7:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Spice My cat Spice is a 7 yr. old female calico/torti that I have had for 3 years. She was a stray and tested FeL+ when I first took her to the vet. At the time, she presented no symptoms, and remained that way until January of this year when she stopped eating. At that time she was NOT anemic, and her blood tests showed that she probably had some kind of cold - low fever, and some kind of infection. It took her about three months and some special antibiotics (or some kind of drops) but she recovered, although she has never gotten back her hefty appetite or all of her lost weight. I just took her for her 6 month checkup and her blood test showed some pretty significant anemia, enough that she could get a transfusion. We decided to give her a B12 shot and pills for now, as she does not seem overly sick. Also, it does not seem to me that transfusions do much good for our FeL+ kitties from the posts I've read. I am ready to put her on the Winstrol - doxycycline - prednesolone regimen if I can get it, but I am wondering if it would do any good considering her age. Also, would she have to be on this regimen forever, or would she have periods off of it or would it just depend? When I took Spice in for her "cold" in January, my vet said that she could give my cat steroids but that they might kill her. Do you know anything about that? I know that Winstrol is a steroid. Do you think that the Winstrol-doxycycline-prednesolone is a good idea for Spice or not? I aim thinking yes, if I can get my vet to prescribe some. It seems like Winstrol is a kind of "miracle" medicine (like most steroids) Thank all of you for the information I've gotten from your posts. I am sorry if I am asking redundant questions, but I didn't find those answers from the posts. I want my Spice to live a good life for as long as she can without putting her through all kinds of stress. Thanks again Judy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Spice
My cat Spice is a 7 yr. old female calico/torti that I have had for 3 years. She was a stray and tested FeL+ when I first took her to the vet. At the time, she presented no symptoms, and remained that way until January of this year when she stopped eating. At that time she was NOT anemic, and her blood tests showed that she probably had some kind of cold - low fever, and some kind of infection. It took her about three months and some special antibiotics (or some kind of drops) but she recovered, although she has never gotten back her hefty appetite or all of her lost weight. I just took her for her 6 month checkup and her blood test showed some pretty significant anemia, enough that she could get a transfusion. We decided to give her a B12 shot and pills for now, as she does not seem overly sick. Also, it does not seem to me that transfusions do much good for our FeL+ kitties from the posts I've read. I am ready to put her on the Winstrol - doxycycline - prednesolone regimen if I can get it, but I am wondering if it would do any good considering her age. Also, would she have to be on this regimen forever, or would she have periods off of it or would it just depend? When I took Spice in for her "cold" in January, my vet said that she could give my cat steroids but that they might kill her. Do you know anything about that? I know that Winstrol is a steroid. Do you think that the Winstrol-doxycycline-prednesolone is a good idea for Spice or not? I aim thinking yes, if I can get my vet to prescribe some. It seems like Winstrol is a kind of "miracle" medicine (like most steroids) Thank all of you for the information I've gotten from your posts. I am sorry if I am asking redundant questions, but I didn't find those answers from the posts. I want my Spice to live a good life for as long as she can without putting her through all kinds of stress. Thanks againJudy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spice
Hi Judy, Good news, and thanks for the update. Glad she found a friend, and wish her (and all of you) well! All the best, Margo -Original Message- From: judith cook Sent: Jan 29, 2015 8:06 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] Spice Spice was spayed last Friday and is doing very well. Thanks for your help. Will be getting her a climbing tower, now that she is feeling friskier. Also likes the cairn terrier (Thirsty), although not the other dogs so much. She is tiny but not intimidated by much. A real sweetie. So far, so good.Judy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spice
I MUST HAVE MISSED THIS. WHAT IS THE STORY? judith cook wrote: > Spice was spayed last Friday and is doing very well. Thanks for your help. > Will be getting her a climbing tower, now that she is feeling friskier. Also > likes the cairn terrier (Thirsty), although not the other dogs so much. She > is tiny but not intimidated by much. A real sweetie. So far, so good.Judy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Spice
Spice was spayed last Friday and is doing very well. Thanks for your help. Will be getting her a climbing tower, now that she is feeling friskier. Also likes the cairn terrier (Thirsty), although not the other dogs so much. She is tiny but not intimidated by much. A real sweetie. So far, so good.Judy___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
