Need advice: Catching female cat between kittens

2005-07-07 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
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thanks,
Bonnie in WI

Date:Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:50:29 -0700
 From:Trudy Handel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Catching female cat between kittens??
 
 We have a problem here - we live on a farm and our nasty next door 
 neighbour (renter) abandoned his cats when he moved away.  They 
 ended up moving in with us, which is fine except one of them was a 
female 
 that was heavily pregnant and incredibly skinny.
 
 We fed her, looked after her kittens and found good homes for 
 them, then we were going to take her in to be spayed.  Too late.  It 
looks 
 like she's ready to give birth AGAIN at any moment - her kittens are 
 not quite three months old and she's huge.
 
 The vet told us that we couldn't have her spayed till two weeks 
 after the kittens had been weaned.  By that time, she was visibly 
 pregnant again. 
 
 So now we're about to have another batch of kittens.  The last 
 batch cost us a lot of money by the time we paid for kitten food, 
shots 
 and wormers for the whole batch.  Here we go again!
 
 My question is - is there any way we can keep her from getting 
 pregnant AGAIN immediately after this litter?  Keeping her in or 
tomcats 
 away isn't an option as she hates it inside - has always been a barn 
 cat, I guess, and the other neighbours don't bother neutering their 
males 
 so there are toms all around.  Is there such a thing as a birth 
 control pill we could give her till she weans the kittens and we can 
get 
 her spayed?
 
 Just wish I could find the neighbour!
 
 -- 
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Re: Need advice: Catching female cat between kittens

2005-07-07 Thread Jenn



I hate to sound condescending, but... If keeping 
her inside isn't an option, then whatdo youexpect? Let me get this 
right, she's an outdoor, unspayed female, running with free access to a number 
of toms? And you don't want her to get preggo but you don't want to keep her 
inside either? Just be responsible, and keep her inside, in a CAGE if you have 
to! You think she's miserable? How about all of her offspring, and THEIR 
offspring? I assume you did not have all of her kittens spayed or neutered 
before adopting them out? Believe me, making ONE cat miserable in a cage for a 
few months is WELL worth the trade off of not creating a thousand disposable 
lives accidentally, generation after generation of kittens who might be 
unwanted, left to starve or freeze, or fall into the hands of cruel people, to 
be abused, or left to fend for themselves, running from dogs, and creating feral 
cat colonies, which uncaring humans put out poison for, and die horrible deaths. 
All because you couldn't let one female cat suffer in a cage for a few months. 
The responsible thing is to cage her until she can be spayed, it's better for 
her, it's better for everyone that way. And please, make sure all of the kittens 
you adopt out go to people who PROMISE to get them spayed or neutered, and get 
their phone numbers, and check up on them in 6 months, and make sure they all 
have been!
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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Re: Need advice: Catching female cat between kittens

2005-07-07 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Jenn,
  Your reply contain common sense but the person did provide for the 
first litter;
I do hope the tone it won't put her off caring properly for the mother 
and her kittens to be. The post came from a list that is primarily 
about dogs, so she may not know as much about cats and was afraid to 
cage the mom.

Bonnie in WI

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I hate to sound condescending, but... If keeping 
her inside isn't an option, then whatdo youexpect? Let me get this 
right, she's an outdoor, unspayed female, running with free access to a number 
of toms? And you don't want her to get preggo but you don't want to keep her 
inside either? Just be responsible, and keep her inside, in a CAGE if you have 
to! You think she's miserable? How about all of her offspring, and THEIR 
offspring? I assume you did not have all of her kittens spayed or neutered 
before adopting them out? Believe me, making ONE cat miserable in a cage for a 
few months is WELL worth the trade off of not creating a thousand disposable 
lives accidentally, generation after generation of kittens who might be 
unwanted, left to starve or freeze, or fall into the hands of cruel people, to 
be abused, or left to fend for themselves, running from dogs, and creating feral 
cat colonies, which uncaring humans put out poison for, and die horrible deaths. 
All because you couldn't let one female cat suffer in a cage for a few months. 
The responsible thing is to cage her until she can be spayed, it's better for 
her, it's better for everyone that way. And please, make sure all of the kittens 
you adopt out go to people who PROMISE to get them spayed or neutered, and get 
their phone numbers, and check up on them in 6 months, and make sure they all 
have been!
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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Re: Need advice: Catching female cat between kittens

2005-07-07 Thread Jenn



I did not see where it said she got them all 
spayed/neutered, only that she got them their shots. Possibly I am wrong. Still 
the facts remain. I hope I did not put her off from trying to help too, I was 
simply attempting to get her to realize how ridiculous hernot being 
willingto cage the cat was. I admit, I'm NOT a people person, ignorance 
annoys me to no end. Maybe I was too blunt, but at least she realizes how 
serious the situation is, hopefully. If she writes me back all offended, I'll 
apologize and tell her the fact that she is trying at all has to count for 
something, and try to be a bit more morally supporting while gently attempting 
to persuade her to see things realistically.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~, 
Your reply contain common sense but the person did provide for the first 
litter;I do hope the tone it won't put her off caring properly for the 
mother and her kittens to be. The post came from a list that is primarily 
about dogs, so she may not know as much about cats and was afraid to 
cage the mom.Bonnie in WI
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