Re: New to FeLV (wendy)

2005-11-18 Thread David



Hey, wendy:

Your very kind words are muchly appreciated! 


It was news to me (I mean, MORE news) that saliva was not 
absolutely implicated in the spread of the virus. Likening it to HIV also 
made it more clear to me (I'm an LPN). 

What I find scary...but I've been remiss! I didn't 
realize that I didn't name the black kitty in my submission. Her name was 
Flavia, in honor of her devotion to my husband (a semi-long story) and because 
of her exotic beauty. And we loved her, though that isn't readily apparent 
in my letter. Mea culpa!

Anyhow...what I find scary is that Flavia "got along" with the 
other cats by ignoring them, and they her. It's always possible that 
blows, or even bites were traded when I wasn't around. But mutual grooming 
and communal sleeping are absolutely out of the question. Which, excepting 
an unknown bite, means that he MUST have gotten it from food/water bowls 
or litter boxes.

Because Elvis is 12. To answer your questionHe turned 12 
on July 8. I know this, because I took in a straywho proceeded to 
give birth in my bedroomcloset about 3 weeks later, 
then went outside one day 5 weeks after thatand
disappeared. (Not coincidentally, that was the last time 
any cat of mine went outside.)

Anyhow, she had 5 kittens. I gave two to my best friend 
of 44 years (we're 46) and kept the other three, Elvis, Tiddy (beautiful 
blue-gray tabby with huge eyes) and Juliet, AKA Girl Cat 
(large,sweet,
shytortoiseshell with a passion for grooming all 
others).

That's why I know he wasn't born with it, (I know it's a virus 
that hides, but for 12 years?) and why I'm afraid of the communal bowl and 
commode possibility. 

I appreciate your info on all the cats who've lived with 
positives and not contracted it. Your letter, also, was a great comfort in 
my despair. I truly appreciate your sharing your Cricket with 
me.

Many thanks!
Gia




Re: New to FeLV (wendy)

2005-11-18 Thread David



wendy!

I can't believe I left out one of the brightest points of your 
letter!

You said, "FYI, the FeLV vaccine is supposed to last 2-3 
years..." (I laughed aloud, there) and "...so your others are most 
likely ok from the first vaccine." (At which point I resolved to give my 
neighbor's child a dollar to do a cartwheel for me!)

You obviously detected my agony over not repeating the 
vaccinations in 2004. 

I have never begrudged the money (thousands, by now) I have 
spent on caring for critters, but I was in dire straits at the time and REALLY 
would have had hell trying to find a 'spare' $500. 

Even so, had IHAD a 'spare' $500 (really, that phrase 
tickles me, in an ironic way), I doubt I would have done it. Twoyears, nevermind the 6 months I was warned about, had passed 
since exposure with absolutely no chance of re-exposure. It's 
IMPOSSIBLE. Simply: thereARE nonew cats inside. 


So, it seems likely that Elvis was infected 2 years ago, 
before vaccination. Which (to me) means that while the others may have 
been infected at the same time, they at least have not likely caught it in the 
intervening years.

You can see how your info about the length 
of immunity after vaccination came as an enormous relief!

So, beau-coup thanks for removing THAT penance from me. 
You guys are great!

Ciao, 
Gia


Re: New to FeLV (wendy)

2005-11-18 Thread Tad Burnett




Correct me if I am wrong...But I believe FeLV IS contacted primarily
through saliva
Maybe not urine and poop
In saliva it dies as soon as it becomes dry, but what if it is in poop
??? 
Can that be carried on a shoe ???
 
The best defense against the disease is to keep cats healthy, well fed
and happy...
No stressI believe it is easy to contact but a cat has natural
defenses against
the disease...The strength of these defenses is directly related to the
condition
the cat is inThis pretty much holds true both before contact and
after when
the cat tests positive...My vet says that he has seen many cats who he
has seen
for the 1st time when on their death bed that test positive and are
years old
and living with a number of other cats (unvaccinated on farms) and so
far as he
knows none of the other cats have contacted it...(But maybe the farmer
just
says this is the same thing and says the cat will die anyway and
doesn't come to
the vet.)
 
One of the problems is that there are so many
variables...health..time..and death
is a result of another disease
 
Tad

David wrote:

  
  
  
  Hey, wendy:
   
  Your very kind words are muchly appreciated!  
   
  It was news to me (I mean, MORE news) that saliva
was not absolutely implicated in the spread of the virus.  Likening it
to HIV also made it more clear to me (I'm an LPN).  
   
  What I find scary...but I've been remiss!  I
didn't realize that I didn't name the black kitty in my submission. 
Her name was Flavia, in honor of her devotion to my husband (a
semi-long story) and because of her exotic beauty.  And we loved her,
though that isn't readily apparent in my letter.  Mea culpa!
   
  Anyhow...what I find scary is that Flavia "got
along" with the other cats by ignoring them, and they her.  It's always
possible that blows, or even bites were traded when I wasn't around. 
But mutual grooming and communal sleeping are absolutely out of the
question.  Which, excepting an unknown bite,  means that he MUST have
gotten it from food/water bowls or litter boxes.
   
  Because Elvis is 12.  To answer your questionHe
turned 12 on July 8.  I know this, because I took in a stray who
proceeded to give birth in my bedroom closet
about 3 weeks later, then went outside one day 5 weeks after that and 
  disappeared.  (Not coincidentally, that was the
last time any cat of mine went outside.)
   
  Anyhow, she had 5 kittens.  I gave two to my best
friend of 44 years (we're 46) and kept the other three, Elvis, Tiddy
(beautiful blue-gray tabby with huge eyes) and Juliet, AKA Girl Cat
(large, sweet,
  shy tortoiseshell with a passion for grooming all
others).
   
  That's why I know he wasn't born with it, (I know
it's a virus that hides, but for 12 years?) and why I'm afraid of the
communal bowl and commode possibility.  
   
  I appreciate your info on all the cats who've
lived with positives and not contracted it.  Your letter, also, was a
great comfort in my despair.  I truly appreciate your sharing your
Cricket with me.
   
  Many thanks!
  Gia
   
   





Re: New to FeLV (wendy)

2005-11-18 Thread felv



Correct me if I am wrong...But I believe FeLV IS contacted primarily 
through salivaMaybe not urine and poopIn saliva it dies as soon 
as it becomes dry, but what if it is in poop ??? Can that be carried on a 
shoe ???
FELV dies unless it has an optimal wet and warm environment (and studies 
say it lives a maximum of 3 days even in that optimum environment). Since any 
poop on your shoes rapidly cools, and any that tracks OFF your shoe (like onto 
the floor) would be dry and cold instantly, there is very little chance of 
carrying FELV on your shoes.
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