Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-04-02 Thread catatonya
Tile is fairly cheapthe labor is what's expensive.  Lots of people learn to lay tile themselves  But I'm certainly no handyman, so I didn't.  twendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  VERY COOL Tonya! I didn't know they made tile to looklike wood. Now that I might go for in the living areaand hallways. We are also going to tile our kitchenand master bath. We figure we might as well get itall out of the way while we're at it...I hope the billdoesn't put too big of a dent in our getting out ofdebt plan...:)Wendy--- catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Wendy,> > I went with tile and I love it I have> one with the colors of urine, poop, litter,> hairballs, etc... all kind of intermingled. Nothing> shows!
 It's not that cold either (but I live in> Georgia). Still if it's cold I put on some socks or> slippers or whatever.> > I like it because it is totally non porous and> it's pretty indestructible. I talked to a lot of> people who have lots of pets, and a lot of people on> this list. I don't regret it at all. I love it. I> tiled the entire house when I moved. There is> laminate in the living area and kitchen. When it> gets enough scratches I'm pulling it up and> replacing it with tile. You can BLEACH tile, so you> know it's clean.> > And it's pretty expensive, but they even> make tile now that looks like wood flooring. I> thought it WAS wood, but it was tile.> > t> > wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Hi guys,> > Well, my husband and I have finally decided to> remove> the carpet in the
 living room, hallway, and "kitty> room" due to them urinating on it. It has gotten so> bad that it actually is showing stains, which> usually> only comes after MULTIPLE instances of urinating on> it. The house does not smell good and we are> embarrassed to have anyone over right now. Mainly> the> problem is due to our 17 yr. old kitty who has> hyperthyroidism, and was never an inside cat until 2> years ago. We are looking into faux wood laminate> flooring, which looks like it will cost around $3000> installed through Lowe's. I haven't priced Home> Depot> or any of the local floor stores yet, so hopefully,> we> can get a much better deal than that. After we> remove> the carpet and before the new flooring goes down,> we're going to seal the concrete floors, since> concrete is porous and the kittys will still be able> to smell the
 urine even after the new floors are> installed if we don't seal them. I am having to talk> my husband into this type of flooring, because he> wants tile, but I don't want it because it's cold on> my feet and just 'cold' looking. I'd rather have> carpet, but we're not going to go there again. Does> anyone here have any advice, suggestions, etc.> regarding this new excursion we're about to embark> on?> Has anyone had the same problems? Did you change> your flooring out? How has that worked? Is there a> particular flooring that does best if exposed to> kitty> urine? Any ideas on keeping the kitties from going> on> the new flooring? > > Thanks so much!> :)> Wendy> > __> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam> protection around >
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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-30 Thread wendy
VERY COOL Tonya!  I didn't know they made tile to look
like wood.  Now that I might go for in the living area
and hallways.  We are also going to tile our kitchen
and master bath.  We figure we might as well get it
all out of the way while we're at it...I hope the bill
doesn't put too big of a dent in our getting out of
debt plan...

:)
Wendy

--- catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wendy,
>
>   I went with tile and I love it  I have
> one with the colors of urine, poop, litter,
> hairballs, etc... all kind of intermingled.  Nothing
> shows!  It's not that cold either (but I live in
> Georgia).  Still if it's cold I put on some socks or
> slippers or whatever.
>
>   I like it because it is totally non porous and
> it's pretty indestructible.  I talked to a lot of
> people who have lots of pets, and a lot of people on
> this list.  I don't regret it at all. I love it.  I
> tiled the entire house when I moved.  There is
> laminate in the living area and kitchen.  When it
> gets enough scratches I'm pulling it up and
> replacing it with tile.  You can BLEACH tile, so you
> know it's clean.
>
>   And it's pretty expensive, but they even
> make tile now that looks like wood flooring.  I
> thought it WAS wood, but it was tile.
>
>   t
> 
> wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Hi guys,
> 
> Well, my husband and I have finally decided to
> remove
> the carpet in the living room, hallway, and "kitty
> room" due to them urinating on it. It has gotten so
> bad that it actually is showing stains, which
> usually
> only comes after MULTIPLE instances of urinating on
> it. The house does not smell good and we are
> embarrassed to have anyone over right now. Mainly
> the
> problem is due to our 17 yr. old kitty who has
> hyperthyroidism, and was never an inside cat until 2
> years ago. We are looking into faux wood laminate
> flooring, which looks like it will cost around $3000
> installed through Lowe's. I haven't priced Home
> Depot
> or any of the local floor stores yet, so hopefully,
> we
> can get a much better deal than that. After we
> remove
> the carpet and before the new flooring goes down,
> we're going to seal the concrete floors, since
> concrete is porous and the kittys will still be able
> to smell the urine even after the new floors are
> installed if we don't seal them. I am having to talk
> my husband into this type of flooring, because he
> wants tile, but I don't want it because it's cold on
> my feet and just 'cold' looking. I'd rather have
> carpet, but we're not going to go there again. Does
> anyone here have any advice, suggestions, etc.
> regarding this new excursion we're about to embark
> on?
> Has anyone had the same problems? Did you change
> your flooring out? How has that worked? Is there a
> particular flooring that does best if exposed to
> kitty
> urine? Any ideas on keeping the kitties from going
> on
> the new flooring? 
> 
> Thanks so much!
> :)
> Wendy
> 
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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-29 Thread catatonya
Wendy,     I went with tile and I love it  I have one with the colors of urine, poop, litter, hairballs, etc... all kind of intermingled.  Nothing shows!  It's not that cold either (but I live in Georgia).  Still if it's cold I put on some socks or slippers or whatever.     I like it because it is totally non porous and it's pretty indestructible.  I talked to a lot of people who have lots of pets, and a lot of people on this list.  I don't regret it at all. I love it.  I tiled the entire house when I moved.  There is laminate in the living area and kitchen.  When it gets enough scratches I'm pulling it up and replacing it with tile.  You can BLEACH tile, so you know it's clean.     And it's pretty expensive, but they even make tile now that looks like wood flooring.  I thought it WAS wood, but it was
 tile.     twendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Hi guys,Well, my husband and I have finally decided to removethe carpet in the living room, hallway, and "kittyroom" due to them urinating on it. It has gotten sobad that it actually is showing stains, which usuallyonly comes after MULTIPLE instances of urinating onit. The house does not smell good and we areembarrassed to have anyone over right now. Mainly theproblem is due to our 17 yr. old kitty who hashyperthyroidism, and was never an inside cat until 2years ago. We are looking into faux wood laminateflooring, which looks like it will cost around $3000installed through Lowe's. I haven't priced Home Depotor any of the local floor stores yet, so hopefully, wecan get a much better deal than that. After we
 removethe carpet and before the new flooring goes down,we're going to seal the concrete floors, sinceconcrete is porous and the kittys will still be ableto smell the urine even after the new floors areinstalled if we don't seal them. I am having to talkmy husband into this type of flooring, because hewants tile, but I don't want it because it's cold onmy feet and just 'cold' looking. I'd rather havecarpet, but we're not going to go there again. Doesanyone here have any advice, suggestions, etc.regarding this new excursion we're about to embark on?Has anyone had the same problems? Did you changeyour flooring out? How has that worked? Is there aparticular flooring that does best if exposed to kittyurine? Any ideas on keeping the kitties from going onthe new flooring? Thanks so much!:)Wendy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail
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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-29 Thread wendy
Thanks for the info!

:)
Wendy

--- Lewis Faye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree with Sheila.  I had the same problem with
> actual hardwood.  With multiple pets, tile is one of
> the better options.  The problem is you must always
> clean up immediately.  My previous dog with liver
> issues urinated on a cat toy.  I didn't see the
> accident and had not idea it was there.  The urine
> molded in a few days and ruined those planks.  It
> was awful.  
>
>   I have heard many dreadful tales about laminate
> flooring and pets.  People love it when it is new
> but when the accidents begin, look out for serious
> trouble.  
>
>   If you must go with a wood type thing, look into
> bamboo flooring.  I have no experience with this but
> it has been recommended on other pet boards I visit.
>  I have no idea of the cost but I suspect it isn't
> cheap.  
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   Wendy, I replaced the carpet in my hallway and
> living room two years ago with very expensive wood
> laminate and I have been miserable ever since. It
> looks great when you first put it down, but you
> can't let the kitties pee on it or mop it with soap
> and water. If the kitties do have an accident you
> have to get it up (immediately) with a damp mop. If
> they make a mess during the night or when you are
> away from home and can't get to it right away you
> are gonna have big problems. I had to mop mine with
> soap and bleach to feel like it was clean and
> sanitary and now I have a big mess the seams have
> buckled and the laminate is peeling a part. I hate
> to admit it but your hubby is right. I have done a
> lot of research and it looks like tile is the best
> solution for us pet lovers.  Sheila 
> 
>   
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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread Marylyn



Bamboo is not nearly as expensive as it was a few 
years ago.  I had several dealers recommend it to me because of the pet 
issue and for bathrooms where there is a lot of moisture.  There are some 
pretty descent lumber discount places.  Lumber Liquidator (especially if 
you have one in driving distance) has sales frequently.  I'm still sold on 
the tile thing.  However, I am putting pine floors in my house and 
plan to have them finished with tung oil.  Go figure.  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man.  
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Lewis Faye 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:41 
  PM
  Subject: Re: OT: help-removing carpet due 
  to kitty urine
  
  I agree with Sheila.  I had the same problem with actual 
  hardwood.  With multiple pets, tile is one of the better options.  
  The problem is you must always clean up immediately.  My previous dog 
  with liver issues urinated on a cat toy.  I didn't see the accident 
  and had not idea it was there.  The urine molded in a few days and ruined 
  those planks.  It was awful.  
   
  I have heard many dreadful tales about laminate flooring and pets.  
  People love it when it is new but when the accidents begin, look out for 
  serious trouble.  
   
  If you must go with a wood type thing, look into bamboo flooring.  I 
  have no experience with this but it has been recommended on other pet boards I 
  visit.  I have no idea of the cost but I suspect it isn't cheap.  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Wendy, I replaced the carpet in my hallway and living 
room two years ago with very expensive wood laminate and I have been 
miserable ever since. It looks great when you first put it down, but you 
can't let the kitties pee on it or mop it with soap and water. If the 
kitties do have an accident you have to get it up (immediately) with a damp 
mop. If they make a mess during the night or when you are away from home and 
can't get to it right away you are gonna have big problems. I had to mop 
mine with soap and bleach to feel like it was clean and sanitary and now I 
have a big mess the seams have buckled and the laminate is peeling a part. I 
hate to admit it but your hubby is right. I have done a lot of research and 
it looks like tile is the best solution for us pet lovers.  
Sheila 
  
  
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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread Lewis Faye
I agree with Sheila.  I had the same problem with actual hardwood.  With multiple pets, tile is one of the better options.  The problem is you must always clean up immediately.  My previous dog with liver issues urinated on a cat toy.  I didn't see the accident and had not idea it was there.  The urine molded in a few days and ruined those planks.  It was awful.       I have heard many dreadful tales about laminate flooring and pets.  People love it when it is new but when the accidents begin, look out for serious trouble.       If you must go with a wood type thing, look into bamboo flooring.  I have no experience with this but it has been recommended on other pet boards I visit.  I have no idea of the cost but I suspect it isn't cheap.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Wendy, I replaced the carpet in my hallway and living room two years ago with very expensive wood laminate and I have been miserable ever since. It looks great when you first put it down, but you can't let the kitties pee on it or mop it with soap and water. If the kitties do have an accident you have to get it up (immediately) with a damp mop. If they make a mess during the night or when you are away from home and can't get to it right away you are gonna have big problems. I had to mop mine with soap and bleach to feel like it was clean and sanitary and now I have a big mess the seams have buckled and the laminate is peeling a part. I hate to admit it but your hubby is right. I have done a lot of research and it looks like tile is the best solution for us pet lovers.  Sheila 
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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread gblane

Tile is SUPER!


At 01:53 PM 3/28/2006, you wrote:

Point taken Patti.  Thanks for your input.  I'm
gathering all the info. I can so we can make the best
decision.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hardwood floors + Cats + Dogs =  VERY EXPENSIVE
> NIGHTMARE!!!
>
> Take my advice, save the $$$'s & frustration, go
> with tile.  You  can always
> put down "washable" throw rugs..
> Scratches, urine, forget it.  You'll be heartbroken.
>  (I had  HORRENDOUS
> scratches, from the dogs, on FIRST DAY!!! )
> UghBig  mistake.
>
> Patti
>
>


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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread wendy
Point taken Patti.  Thanks for your input.  I'm
gathering all the info. I can so we can make the best
decision.  

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hardwood floors + Cats + Dogs =  VERY EXPENSIVE
> NIGHTMARE!!!
>  
> Take my advice, save the $$$'s & frustration, go
> with tile.  You  can always 
> put down "washable" throw rugs..
> Scratches, urine, forget it.  You'll be heartbroken.
>  (I had  HORRENDOUS 
> scratches, from the dogs, on FIRST DAY!!! )
> UghBig  mistake.
>  
> Patti
> 
> 


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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread wendy
One thing I have found on the Internet is that you can
coat the hardwoods with an epoxy.  Sherwin Williams
makes one that isn't too expensive.  I am looking into
the validity of this.  

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  I have asked the people at lowes about hard would.
> They said that real wood 
> would buckle if you get it wet. If you find out
> anything different please let 
> me know. I would love to have wood floors, but I
> would think that the kitties 
> might use them for scratching and I have to mop with
> soap and bleach everyday. 
> Sheila
> 


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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread gblane
I have hard wood, and it takes a LOT of water to make it 
buckle.   It's got a finish on it, and yes, the claws racing around 
the house *does* scratch it up.  It's superficial scratches, but then 
who wants to have their hard wood re-varnished (well finished) every 
couple of years. Wonder about those people at Lowes though - we're 
talking SOAKED with water to make it buckle..  Course if you want 
something impenetrable - ceramic tile.


Gloria


At 01:07 PM 3/28/2006, you wrote:
I have asked the people at lowes about hard would. They said that 
real wood would buckle if you get it wet. If you find out anything 
different please let me know. I would love to have wood floors, but 
I would think that the kitties might use them for scratching and I 
have to mop with soap and bleach everyday. Sheila





Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread PEC2851



Hardwood floors + Cats + Dogs =  VERY EXPENSIVE NIGHTMARE!!!
 
Take my advice, save the $$$'s & frustration, go with tile.  You 
can always put down "washable" throw rugs..
Scratches, urine, forget it.  You'll be heartbroken.  (I had 
HORRENDOUS scratches, from the dogs, on FIRST DAY!!! ) UghBig 
mistake.
 
Patti



Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread Sheila208
 I have asked the people at lowes about hard would. They said that real wood would buckle if you get it wet. If you find out anything different please let me know. I would love to have wood floors, but I would think that the kitties might use them for scratching and I have to mop with soap and bleach everyday. Sheila


Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread wendy
Wow Sheila,

I am so glad you posted back to me.  It looks like we
are either going to have to go to real hard woods, or
tile.  My husband LOVES the tile, but I just don't
like it.  I guess I can learn to like it.  What about
urine on hard woods?  

Thanks,
:)
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Wendy, I replaced the carpet in my hallway and
> living room two years ago with 
> very expensive wood laminate and I have been
> miserable ever since. It looks 
> great when you first put it down, but you can't let
> the kitties pee on it or 
> mop it with soap and water. If the kitties do have
> an accident you have to get 
> it up (immediately) with a damp mop. If they make a
> mess during the night or 
> when you are away from home and can't get to it
> right away you are gonna have 
> big problems. I had to mop mine with soap and bleach
> to feel like it was clean 
> and sanitary and now I have a big mess the seams
> have buckled and the laminate 
> is peeling a part. I hate to admit it but your hubby
> is right. I have done a 
> lot of research and it looks like tile is the best
> solution for us pet lovers.  
> Sheila
> 


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Re: OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread Sheila208
Wendy, I replaced the carpet in my hallway and living room two years ago with very expensive wood laminate and I have been miserable ever since. It looks great when you first put it down, but you can't let the kitties pee on it or mop it with soap and water. If the kitties do have an accident you have to get it up (immediately) with a damp mop. If they make a mess during the night or when you are away from home and can't get to it right away you are gonna have big problems. I had to mop mine with soap and bleach to feel like it was clean and sanitary and now I have a big mess the seams have buckled and the laminate is peeling a part. I hate to admit it but your hubby is right. I have done a lot of research and it looks like tile is the best solution for us pet lovers.  Sheila


OT: help-removing carpet due to kitty urine

2006-03-28 Thread wendy
Hi guys,

Well, my husband and I have finally decided to remove
the carpet in the living room, hallway, and "kitty
room" due to them urinating on it.  It has gotten so
bad that it actually is showing stains, which usually
only comes after MULTIPLE instances of urinating on
it.  The house does not smell good and we are
embarrassed to have anyone over right now.  Mainly the
problem is due to our 17 yr. old kitty who has
hyperthyroidism, and was never an inside cat until 2
years ago.  We are looking into faux wood laminate
flooring, which looks like it will cost around $3000
installed through Lowe's.  I haven't priced Home Depot
or any of the local floor stores yet, so hopefully, we
can get a much better deal than that.  After we remove
the carpet and before the new flooring goes down,
we're going to seal the concrete floors, since
concrete is porous and the kittys will still be able
to smell the urine even after the new floors are
installed if we don't seal them.  I am having to talk
my husband into this type of flooring, because he
wants tile, but I don't want it because it's cold on
my feet and just 'cold' looking.  I'd rather have
carpet, but we're not going to go there again.  Does
anyone here have any advice, suggestions, etc.
regarding this new excursion we're about to embark on?
 Has anyone had the same problems?  Did you change
your flooring out?  How has that worked?  Is there a
particular flooring that does best if exposed to kitty
urine?  Any ideas on keeping the kitties from going on
the new flooring?  

Thanks so much!
:)
Wendy

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